Trump signs another Executive Order
People will be able to seek out their own doctor! This order will empower patients. For decades the special interests have denied patients the actual cost of procedures and providers. Americans have found themselves in situations that are entirely unfair.
"The American people have a right to know the price of services"
Hospitals will be required to publish the price of services
"Much better pricing and the doctor that you want. The opposite of Obamacare......Donald Trump
Thank you Mr President
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The previous EO on Healthcare sought to make policies available across state lines but that infringes on each states right to regulate and all of the state insurance commissioners have been opposed. Besides it is already legal ( Both Federal & state ) to form the groups that the EO is "promoting" as competitive.
What this EO is promoting is that these smaller groups
a be allowed to drop ACA mandated coverage , like maternity care.
b be treated like larger groups that have more leverage.
Both present legal issues based on states rights and precedent.
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This EO, while probably well meaning, misses the point
and will end up like the first Health Care EO. Forgotten until/unless it hits the court system.
Great, when someone is taken to the hospital in an emergency they can lay there waiting for treatment while the prices are haggled out.
I guess trump thinks that having hospitals post the costs of their services on a piece of paper like a restaurant menu will force competition.
Is this really the best we can do?
He's a moron.
Medical experts agree with him
I don't object to posting prices, but it is no replacement for universal health care.
LMAO! You rather the tax payers be on the hook
On the hook for what? A national health insurance plan? Of course. Every other advanced nation on earth has one.
What do you want the poor and middle class to do, shop around through the hospital prices until they can find a dirt cheap price for heart surgery? Maybe they will get a doctor who was in the lower half of his class and thus get a better price. eh?
You can always be counted on to support more authoritarian government engaged in forced Collectivism
As opposed to having people die from lack of health care, or having to declare bankruptcy and lose their home because of a medical bill, you're damn right.
We where told that Obamacare would stop any lack of health care and homes are a protected asset for bankruptcy cases.
More of your nonsense spewed.
So, is every hospital and clinic going to publish up every price for every item and procedure for every insurance carrier, out of network and uninsured. That could be quite the project for some places. Does this include emergency care too? I don't see this doing much, but I do applaud the idea.
Welcome aboard!
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. Our healthcare system is a clusterfuck even without adding in insurance carriers.
I am sure it all exists on each hospitals billing system computers.
I just don't see what it will do really, except maybe show that some insurance companies negotiated a better deal on some things.
My understanding is that it is very complicated. I argue with gf about it all the time. After 2 years of school she's been working for one of two large local health care provider billing office for nearly a year. There are dozens and dozens of people just doing billing.
I think the health care providers have done this on purpose to hide as much as they can and Administrators are chosen for their creative ways to find new things to bill for as much as they are for their management skills.
I don't think it will do much at all for emergency care. In an emergency, you want to have them save your life or limb or whatever - you're not going to sit there covered in blood, haggling. And you usually don't get to pick what hospital you're taken to.
For non-emergency care, it makes sense.
I'm having minor oral surgery - for one procedure I'll use my current insurance, but for the second one I'll have a new insurance company. The periodontist's receptionist got on her computer and printed me out a price list for me so I'd know up front what my out of pocket expenses will be. The second procedure will cost me less, because my new insurance company has a different negotiated rate that the periodontist can charge.
Recently I read an article about a guy that got a flu shot, pass out and was taken to the nearest emergency room. It was out of network, so he didn't see a doctor, but was still billed $3000 for a "triage fee". No one ever told him there even was such a thing.
I think we'll need to standardize things quite a bit before anything truly makes sense in a larger sense.
If you have insurance or Medicare, it is irrelevant. The insurance provider has their set fee to pay, regardless of the doctor's or hospital's fee, and the patient pays their percentage of that fee.
Patient needs to know what their insurance provider pays.
Exactly.
And we need a better standardization of pricing too. There's really no reason why a list price of a common procedure should vary so much between different providers. I couldn't find it but I remember years ago reading where they did a price comparison for hip replacement surgery between all the hospitals in Cleveland. The price varied from between $19,500 to over $80,000 depending on the hospital. It's very difficult to be a smart shopper of your healthcare dollars when you don't have access to what you actually have to pay and the price can vary so drastically between hospitals.
I know this sounds like a pitch for medicare for all, problem is from what I've seen every time the government gets involved in something the cost increases faster than the rate of inflation. And I'm not a fan of rationed care. I don't have a solution, sure wish there was one that I could see.
Yep, that's what matters.
Honey, While I'm still in shock, can you call around and see which hospital has the best rates?
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As if somebody in pain would be forced to do that. Why can't you just admit the President is right. Americans pay more than anyone else because the health care sector charges whatever they feel like.
You miss the point. If they want a chance at the best price, why wouldn't they be "forced" to do that?
I got the point. Trump is doing it so it's bad. Somebody being rushed to the hospital isn't going to be comparing prices, that's a given, but forcing the GREEDY Health Care sector to post prices will undeniably help the public and YES lower prices.
That has ALWAYS been the case in Canada's universal health care system.