Republican Bishop narrowly wins North Carolina special election

  
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Republican Bishop narrowly wins North Carolina special election
The vote in North Carolina followed a reliable pattern of the Trump era: McCready cleaned up in the immediate suburbs of Charlotte, where the president has been unpopular, even improving on his 2018 margins in many precincts. But Bishop did even better in the rural and exurban stretches of the district, outmatching McCready’s base.

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CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Republican Dan Bishop narrowly defeated Democrat Dan McCready to win a North Carolina battleground district on Tuesday, holding a traditionally Republican seat in a rare do-over election following a 2018 race marred by allegations of fraud.

The Associated Press called the race in North Carolina’s 9th Congressional District with Bishop leading McCready 50.6 percent to 48.8 percent, with 95 percent of precincts reporting.

The two candidates were battling for a seat Republicans have held for decades but which has sat vacant since the 2018 midterm election result — an apparent 905-vote victory for Republican Mark Harris over McCready — was thrown out over credible evidence of election fraud committed by one of Harris’ campaign contractors. Harris declined to run in the new election ordered by the state elections board, and Bishop won the Republican nomination in a primary this spring.

The result offers something for both parties: The fact that the long-time GOP district was in play again is a sign the national environment has changed little since the midterms, when the GOP lost the House, as President Donald Trump runs for reelection.

But Bishop’s slender victory could also act as a salve and an emotional lift for the GOP. Had McCready won in a district Trump carried by 12 points in the 2016 election, it would have dealt a blow to the GOP’s hopes of winning back the House majority next year and likely led to more retirements among Republican incumbents.

The vote in North Carolina followed a reliable pattern of the Trump era: McCready cleaned up in the immediate suburbs of Charlotte, where the president has been unpopular, even improving on his 2018 margins in many precincts. But Bishop did even better in the rural and exurban stretches of the district, outmatching McCready’s base. That push-pull will be one of the main storylines of the 2020 presidential campaign, as Democrats try to wrest back states like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin where urban and suburban voters are sprinting in one direction and rural and exurban voters are pulling just as hard the other way.

The contest between Bishop and McCready attracted more than $10 million in outside spending, the second-most ever for a special election for the House. The National Republican Congressional Committee and Congressional Leadership Fund, the leading pro-GOP super PAC for House races, have combined to spend more than $5 million.

Democratic groups also engaged, with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and House Majority Forward, a nonprofit group linked to Democratic leaders, each spending more than $1 million.

Before the polls even closed, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), who traveled to North Carolina with Trump on Air Force One Monday night, warned against reading too much into the results of the race. “Special elections are just what they are: special,” McCarthy told reporters at his weekly press conference Tuesday.

McCready, a Marine veteran running in a district that hasn’t gone Democratic since the early 1960s, campaigned as a bipartisan figure who wouldn’t vote for Nancy Pelosi for speaker.

He identified health care as his top issue, pledging to “fix” the 2010 Affordable Care Act. Asked earlier Tuesday about some of the health care proposals among Democrats’ 2020 presidential candidates, McCready called some of them “crazy” ideas.

“I think there’s a lot of crazy, aspirational stuff coming out of those presidential debates,” the Democrat said. All we got to do is stand up to the drug companies, stand up to the special interests. We got to fix Obamacare — we got to fix the problems in the system.”

But Bishop — who said he’d be a strong supporter of Trump and his agenda if elected —sought to link McCready to prominent Democratic liberals. He cited contributions McCready has received from billionaire presidential candidate Tom Steyer and Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), whose money McCready returned. (According to Federal Election Commission filings, Omar donated $2,000 to McCready on Nov. 6 of last year, and McCready refunded the donation on March 30 of this year.)

“That’s where his money’s coming from,” Bishop said Tuesday before the polls closed. “That doesn't happen if those people believe he's a force for moderation. So I suggest — have suggested — that it's kind of a scam. It's sort of a phony presentation and a way to flip a seat blue."


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Vic Eldred
1  seeder  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

That visit by the President paid dividends. At one point Bishop was down by 17 points, he won by about 3. I suppose had McCready won it would have been a bellwether for Trump, now we won't hear a thing.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 months ago
At one point Bishop was down by 17 points, he won by about 3.

Do they take these polls at OWS rallies?  Do they sit in the Starbucks parking lot waiting for cars with Resist or Coexist bumper stickers on them?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1    3 months ago

I think they talk to a lot of those suburban women, you know the ones who's minds are full of transgender concerns.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    3 months ago
I think they talk to a lot of those suburban women, you know the ones who's minds are full of transgender concerns.

Suburban women are remarkably practical.  They care about carpool and soccer practice and good schools.  They have bills to pay, and don't really care very much about transgenderism.

Bullshit like that belongs to 25 year olds in the "19th grade" still getting an allowance from Mom while they try to figure out what they're "passionate about".

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.2    3 months ago

I would think they would want safe schools then! Oh, that's right, they live in the suburbs!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.2    3 months ago

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Tessylo
1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 months ago

This is the scumbag homophobe who instated the transgender bathroom law in NC.  He won by a very, very narrow margin.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    3 months ago
This is the scumbag homophobe who instated the transgender bathroom law in NC

He cared about women.

He won by a very, very narrow margin.  

He was down by as many as 17 points at one point. That's when Don Lemon was talking about the importance of this election.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    3 months ago

How does he care about woman by instituting a homophobic law?  Something that will never ever effect women in any way, shape, or form?

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    3 months ago

Does someone think transgenders are homosexuals??

LOL!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.2    3 months ago
Something that will never ever effect women in any way, shape, or form?

Don't women use ladies room's?  What should they expect to find in there?

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.4    3 months ago

Nothing unless they're peeking under someone else's stall.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.4    3 months ago

I know transgenders are not homosexuals, I doubt Bishop knows the difference though.  He is a homophobe, straight up.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.5    3 months ago
Nothing unless they're peeking under someone else's stall.  

Evidently you are willing to take that chance. We protect our women.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.8  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.4    3 months ago
I think Bishop and this Talbert below are both self loathing homosexuals.  
Like I said Vic, Bishop is a homophobe.  

North Carolina 'Bathroom Bill' Sponsor Backed by Far-Right LGBTQ Group

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Deplorable Pride, with a history of anti-Muslim statements and ties to Proud Boys, has endorsed Dan Bishop, running in a special congressional election today.

SEPTEMBER 10 2019 3:16 PM EDT

Dan Bishop, the man behind North Carolina’s anti-LGBTQ House Bill 2 and now running for the U.S. House, actually has support from one LGBTQ group — a far-right one with a history of anti-Muslim comments and other bigoted rhetoric.

Bishop, a Republican who faces Democrat Dan McCready in a special election today in North Carolina’s Ninth Congressional District, has the endorsement of Deplorable Pride, an N.C. group run by Brian Talbert, which calls itself “a conservative LGBT voice,”   Mother Jones   reports.

Talbert has posted virulently anti-Muslim comments on social media, including a desire to “kill every single one of them,” a reference to Muslims as “camel fuckers,” and the statement “Mohammed sucks cocks in hell,” as documented by   GLAAD.   He has called liberal LGBTQ people “vile” and “disgusting” and described abortion as “genocide.” He has voiced opposition to military service by transgender people.

He and his organization have also expressed support for the Proud Boys, designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its white nationalist, misogynistic, and Islamophobic statements. Proud Boys members clashed violently with protesters in New York City in 2018 and appeared at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Va., the previous year. (For the record, Proud Boys leaders say the organization is not racist but simply campaigns for Western values, and they   have sued   the SPLC over the hate group label.) “Our LBGT organization, Deplorable Pride, will always be an ally to the Proud Boys,” Talbert told Big League Politics last year.

Deplorable Pride’s application to have a float in the Charlotte Pride parade in 2017 was rejected by organizers, who told   The Charlotte Observer,   “In the past, we have made similar decisions to decline participation from other organizations espousing anti-LGBTQ religious or public policy stances.”

Talbert told   Mother Jones   he has met with Bishop on several occasions, including a June meeting in which the candidate promised to work with Donald Trump’s administration on “decriminalizing homosexuality around the world.” Deplorable Pride has tweeted that it would offer Bishop “suggestions on the best way for the Republican party to reach out to the LGBT community and other minorities to show them a better way than the Dems.”

Talbert and Deplorable Pride this summer held roadside rallies for Bishop, which he said were organized independently of the campaign, but the candidate’s wife, Jo Johnson Bishop, did post a statement of thanks to the group on Facebook. Talbert attended the politician’s volunteer appreciation dinner on Labor Day, and the two were photographed together. The Bishop campaign declined comment to   Mother Jones   about the relationship with Talbert and his group. Deplorable Pride   posted on Facebook today   that the   Mother Jones   story is “full of lies” and that the publication is “a left-wing trash rag,” but it did not rebut any specific points.

Bishop, currently a state senator, was the   chief sponsor   of HB 2, which North Carolina legislators passed in 2016 but has since been partially repealed. The measure was known as a “bathroom bill” because it prohibited transgender people from accessing the restrooms and other single-sex facilities comporting with their gender identity, when those facilities are in government buildings, including public schools and state colleges and universities. It also, among other things, prevented city and county governments from enacting or enforcing LGBTQ-inclusive nondiscrimination laws. The state suffered boycotts by businesses, entertainers, and sporting events as a result.

Bishop won the Republican primary in May to face McCready in the Charlotte-area Ninth Congressional District after last November’s election, which McCready narrowly lost to anti-LGBTQ Republican Mark Harris,   was nullified   due to evidence of fraud relating to collection of absentee ballots. McCready is a supporter of LGBTQ rights. There is no incumbent in the race.

Trump appeared at a rally for Bishop Monday in Fayetteville, in which the president   accused McCready of “disloyalty”   by supporting sanctuary cities, which offer protection to unauthorized immigrants. McCready’s campaign   has said   he does not support sanctuary cities. Deplorable Pride shared photos from the rally on its Facebook page.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.9  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.8    3 months ago

Trudy Ring? Mother Jones? GLAAD?  You need to start providing the URL link from your little clips. 

Once you read that anybody supports the Proud Boys (a band of non-political brawlers) - you can stop reading. What BS!

 
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.11  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.10    3 months ago

Okay, The Advocate is an American LGBT-interest magazine. We got it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.10    3 months ago

 This is from the Charlotte Observer, an editorial.  

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrE1xYq.3hd8BEAD.tXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEycjl0YTJoBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM2BHZ0aWQDQjY4MzNfMQRzZWMDc3I-/RV=2/RE=1568238506/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.charlotteobserver.com%2fopinion%2feditorials%2farticle233983717.html/RK=2/RS=cpfFyTxsOwYnbRQyVgUwnEk1EXo-

Dan Bishop’s harsh history of discrimination

BY THE EDITORIAL BOARD

AUGUST 14, 2019 02:41 PM ,   UPDATED AUGUST 15, 2019 11:30 AM

Rep. Bishop of Charlotte introduces House Bill 2 in committee

Republican congressional candidate Dan Bishop went on the offensive this week about his past, threatening media members if they broadcast an ad highlighting his 2017 investment in a web site frequented by white nationalists. But if the state senator from Mecklenburg wants to outrun his harsh history of discrimination, he’s going to need some durable shoes.

The ad in question, from a group called   Stand Up Republic , comes a month before the 9th Congressional District special election between Bishop and Democrat Dan McCready. As   the Charlotte Observer reported , the ad says: “Remember when neo-Nazis marched in Charlottesville and killed a young woman? ... When they were banned from social media, Dan Bishop took their side. In fact, he invested in a social media website because it welcomed the white supremacists.”

Bishop threatened a lawsuit to any media that published or broadcast the ad. It was his latest attempt to dodge   the damning investment he made in Gab , a website Bishop has claimed some ignorance about. But regardless of whether or not Bishop invested in Gab “because” it welcomed white supremacists, the evidence shows he knew what he was investing in.   As the Observer editorial board wrote last November , the   Washington Post report he cited   when announcing his investment detailed how tech companies were taking action on hate-filled sites like Gab.

What was most striking about the news of Bishop’s investment, however, was that it wasn’t that much of a surprise. After all, the state senator has a history of discrimination that stretches back at least a decade.

Most notable was his authorship of HB2, the discriminatory 2016 legislation that   cost North Carolina dearly in economic investment . The so-called “bathroom bill” was not only about transgender people — or “a cross-dresser’s liberty,” as Bishop once sneered. HB2 also blocked cities from enacting non-discrimination ordinances, and it   included language that made it harder for workers who were fired because of race, gender or religion to seek redress .

When Bishop and other lawmakers looked for a way out of the damage HB2 inflicted on his state and city, he worked with an official of the Alliance Defending Freedom, a group that   works to discriminate against the LGBTQ community .

Bishop, too, has worked against gay and lesbian efforts toward equality. He was a public advocate for North Carolina’s Amendment 1, which in 2012 made our state the last in the country to ban gay marriage before a court overturned the law. Seven years earlier, as a Mecklenburg commissioner, he spoke out against a county measure to ban discrimination against gays, calling it “either a political stunt or a serious dagger at the heart of marriage.”

Bishop doesn’t seem to want to talk much about that history these days. When asked in May if he would have done anything differently with HB2,   he told WFAE   that ”every piece of legislation is imperfect and everything could be improved,” then pivoted to criticize “the endless controversy that has been mostly media manufactured.”

Voters should see through the dodges. Dan Bishop has supported discrimination against gays and lesbians. He authored one of the most discriminatory, destructive laws in our state’s history. And now, he would like voters to think he didn’t know a web site he invested in catered to hate — despite citing an article then that said so. Keep running, Mr. Bishop. Your past is right behind you.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.13  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.11    3 months ago

His own state says he's a homophobe and a white supremacist suporter.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.14  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.9    3 months ago

But Bishop supports the proud boys and this self loathing homosexual Talbert and his group.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.9    3 months ago

Bishop sounds like this guy:

Anti-gay GOP state rep resigns amid allegations of Grindr hookups

59-year-old Tennessee State Rep. Bill Sanderson reportedly hit on men 40 years younger than him despite being married to a woman and repeatedly voting for anti-LGBTQ legislation.
By  Daniel Villarreal   Wednesday, July 24, 2019    

Cari Wade Gervin — a longtime political reporter who covers Tennessee news, politics and gossip site   The Dog and Pony Show     has accused   59-year-old Tennessee state Rep. Bill Sanderson of “openly soliciting sex” and sending “sexually explicit messages and pictures to men almost 40 years his junior” while voting repeatedly in favor of anti-LGBTQ legislation.

Sanderson   resigned today . He says he’s resigning to run his business, White Squirrel Winery, but Gervin claims that his resignation was partly in response to the revealing of his same-sex encounters.

In January 2014, the gossip blog   The Dirty   published messages   Sanderson allegedly sent to an unnamed male Vanderbilt student in which Sanderson writes that he is a “state rep” representing Obion, Lake and Dyer Counties, his actual district.

But while Grindr messages are easily faked, Gervin writes:

“The Grindr and text messages I have seen do appear to be authentic. They use Sanderson’s real cell phone number. Sources confirm having been told about the messages at the time by their friends who received them. And one man I interviewed said he met Sanderson at his farm in Kenton.”

In his alleged Grindr profile, Sanderson reportedly calls himself “Brian” and describes himself as being in an “open relationship.” He has reportedly sent images of his naked torso and genitals — photos which he claims were faked with images from his Facebook. He has allegedly asked men to contact him at a phone number connected to his winery.

Sanderson’s Grindr profile reportedly read:

“I’ve seen a lot and done a lot, but I really haven’t had a connection with a guy and I have a burning desire to have that relationship. I like down and dirty guy to guy play too! So, I guess you might say, nothing will be held back …”

Sanderson claims the profile, images and messages are fake. Gervin writes, “[Sanderson] says he was not in an open relationship and told me that if I published this story it would ruin his marriage. He denied being either bisexual or gay or having ever sexually touched a man.”

Gervin also writes that she has spoken with an unnamed UT Martin student who “connected with Sanderson on Grindr several years ago when he was 19.” The student says Sanderson met him at his winery and gave him a tour and wine to drink and take home. Later, he said Sanderson massaged his shoulders and “otherwise hit on him in a manner that made him feel uncomfortable.” Their meeting was allegedly interrupted when Sanderson’s wife unexpectedly returned home.

“He was pressured by the legislator to make up a story on the fly about why he was on the property,” Gervin writes.

In 2011, Sanderson   voted against   allowing cities to adopt anti-LGBT discrimination ordinances. In 2012, he voted for an abstinence-only sex-ed bill that   banned discussion   of “gateway sexual activity.” In 2016, he signed   a resolution denouncing   the U.S. Supreme Court’s gay marriage ruling and   supported a bill   allowing therapists to turn away gay clients (in violation of the American Counseling Association’s code of ethics).

This year, he voted to   defend schools   that refuse bathroom access to trans students, signed   a watered down anti-trans bathroom bill   and voted to allow   adoption agencies to discriminate   against same-sex couples.

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.2.16  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.9    3 months ago
Proud Boys

Political group, by their own admission. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.2.17  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.7    3 months ago

Evidently you are willing to take that chance. We protect our women.

I have been at sporting events where women came into the mens room because the line to the women's bathroom was around the block. No one made a fuss, no one was making cat calls or wolf whistles. Most people go to the bathroom to relieve themselves. It's not a fucking disco, (unless you're Larry "Wide Stance" Craig (R)). The incidence of a transgender person assaulting a woman in a women's bathroom is so low it's laughable. The incidence of a heterosexual male following a woman into a bathroom to rape her is FAR higher. 

Besides, how many trillions of dollars are you willing to spend to have designated genital checkers at the doors of every bathroom in the country? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.18  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @1.2.17    3 months ago
I have been at sporting events where women came into the mens room because the line to the women's bathroom was around the block.

Oh, that solves it then. We are now in the era of progressive unisex, where men & women dress the same and share bathroom facilities!


Besides, how many trillions of dollars are you willing to spend to have designated genital checkers at the doors of every bathroom in the country? 

Is that how to solve it?  I thought it was a third restroom.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.19  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @1.2.16    3 months ago
Political group, by their own admission. 

Not what I hear. Please show us with a link

 
 
 
It Is ME
1.2.20  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.6    3 months ago
I know transgenders are not homosexuals

Which "sexual partner" do they prefer ?

 
 
 
Texan1211
2  Texan1211    3 months ago

Weren't some folks stating that these elections were a referendum on Trump?

Anyone want to bet they won't mention it again about these elections?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @2    3 months ago
Weren't some folks stating that these elections were a referendum on Trump?

As I recall one posted an entire Washington Times news story claiming the GOP was worried. I wonder if we'll hear from her tomorrow?


Anyone want to bet they won't mention it again about these elections?

The odds are that crickets are in our future.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    3 months ago

No crickets, see how I replied above?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.1    3 months ago
No crickets, see how I replied above?

You did show up, I have to give you that. BTW when I posted the first story of the special election yesterday, I knew I'd be posting this one today. That is how confident I was in the President's real popularity!

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    3 months ago

With a 36% approval rate?

That's pretty dismal.

Sad.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
3  MrFrost    3 months ago

This is in trump country, this should have been a layup election, it wasn't. This guy shouldn't have had to spend a dime to win by 15 points. 

https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/6922/republican-bishop-narrowly-wins-north-carolina-special-election#cm1156510

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @3    3 months ago

North Carolina is a battleground state and the 9th District is tighter than Tom Thumb's ass. As I said the President put Bishop over the top.

It is nice to see you broadening your mind. That was good reading.

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    3 months ago

How many points did trump win that county by in 2016? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.1    3 months ago

Close to 12 points, but that was Trump not a mere Republican. Thus the need for the rally last night. It's a good sign for all those nervous Republicans in the House. Don't retire, stick with the President. It was very important for their confidence, which needs to be fortified from time to time.

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    3 months ago

It's pretty telling Vic, you can spin all you want but Bishop narrowly won, (your own article says that), that should make trump supporters nervous. 12 points, the GOP lost a LOT of ground there. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.3    3 months ago

Confucius  say:  "Best to lose ground than lose election"

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.1.5  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.3    3 months ago

Didn't my article say it was supposed to be close?  McCready was running against Bishop, right? Democrats spent alot of money there!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.1.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.4    3 months ago

Was it Confucius or Charlie Chan?

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.6    3 months ago

Charlie Chan quoting Confucius!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.1.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.7    3 months ago

That sounds right. I once had a girlfriend who thought we should agree on everything. (Can you imagine that?)  I reminded her of Charlie Chan's favorite proverb: "The sparrow must go to the tree, the tree never goes to the sparrow."

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.3    3 months ago

He appears to be losing a lot of ground everywhere.  Latest poll results 36% approval.  Has it every been above 48%?

Dismal.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.1.10  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.9    3 months ago
He appears to be losing a lot of ground everywhere. 

I let the President speak for himself:

"In a hypothetical poll, done by one of the worst pollsters of them all, the Amazon Washington Post/ABC, which predicted I would lose to Crooked Hillary by 15 points (how did that work out?), Sleepy Joe, Pocahontas and virtually all others would beat me in the General Election"....Donald Trump tweet

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.9    3 months ago

Yawn .....  many polls had his favorability below that ...... right before he got elected POTUS.

That said, the butt hurt (a big portion of the electorate unfortunately) would rather tend to their hurt feelings than enjoy the prosperity that has followed the election in 2016.   Sad!

And it isn't gonna get any better in 2020 unless those TDS ridden masses manage to pull their collective heads out of their asses.

It's unbelievable really.   The "resist" movement is failing miserably.   Just like Hillary's campaign did in 2016.

Some people will never learn.

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.11    3 months ago

You seem to know a lot about butt hurt, you mention it all the time.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.10    3 months ago

He doesn't like any polls that don't favor him.  What a surprise!  

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.14  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.12    3 months ago
You seem to know a lot about butt hurt, you mention it all the time.  

This article isn't about me nor is it about your unhealthy fixation on me.

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.14    3 months ago

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MrFrost
3.1.16  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.5    3 months ago

Didn't my article say it was supposed to be close?  McCready was running against Bishop, right? Democrats spent alot of money there!

Yes, but again, you're missing the point. Bishop should have won by at least 10 points. 190,000+ votes cast, he won by less than 5,000 and that was with the trump bump from the day before. Add to that, Bishop blew how many millions of dollars in that race? Exactly, he shouldn't have had to spend ANY money at all. 

Like I said, it's not that he won, it's that he won by so little, in a race that trump won "bigly", in 2016. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.17  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.16    3 months ago

I guess for losers, losing by a little is some solace to the actual fact that you, indeed, lost.

That's almost as good as the nutjobs who crow about Clinton "winning" the popular vote.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.1.18  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.16    3 months ago
Bishop should have won by at least 10 points.

You keep saying that, but the evidence contradicts that. The previous election held there between Harris and McCready only had a difference of about 2000 votes:

"CHARLOTTE, NC — In what was one of the more dramatic races in North Carolina, Republican Mark Harris has declared victory in his bid for North Carolina's 9th congressional district seat in the U.S. House, bringing in about 2,000 votes more than Democratic challenger Dan McCready."

https://patch.com/north-carolina/charlotte/mecklenburg-2018-election-real-time-results-9th-district-race


That was the original election that never got certified!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @3    3 months ago
this should have been a layup election

Ya, I believe that's what Don Lemon said. Funny, he was set to have a big party had McCready won. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
4  seeder  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

I think the RNC should put Laura Trump (a native of Wilmington, North Carolina) into service with the North Carolina office for the 2020 campaign. 

laura-trump-2.jpg

A nice local touch.....I can only recommend.

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    3 months ago

Another worthless nobody tRump.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
4.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.1    3 months ago

I got a hunch the feeling is mutual.

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    3 months ago

I'm sure this worthless bimbo feels she is above those lowly  middle class wage earners like myself.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
4.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.2    3 months ago

You?  Your'e a lowly middle class wage earner?  

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.3    3 months ago
'I got a hunch the feeling is mutual.'
Don't you remember what you just said?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
4.1.5  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.4    3 months ago

What are you trying to say?

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.5    3 months ago

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MrFrost
4.2  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    3 months ago

Is she qualified at all? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
4.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @4.2    3 months ago

A well known local figure? Of course.

 
 
 
Tacos!
5  Tacos!    3 months ago

Now he's gotta turn right around and run for reelection.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6  seeder  Vic Eldred    3 months ago

"In a major victory for both   President Trump   and national Republicans, North Carolina GOP state Sen. Dan Bishop was projected to win a fiercely contested  special U.S. House election  for the 9th District that was widely seen as a bellwether for the president's chances in the 2020 election.

And another Republican House candidate, Greg Murphy, decisively won a separate special election in North Carolina's more solidly GOP-leaning 3rd District earlier Tuesday evening — frustrating Democrats who spent millions trying to make a splash in the state.

Even Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) Chairwoman Cheri Bustos acknowledged that the president contributed to Bishop's win, writing in a statement, "We fell an inch short tonight, but it took more than $6 million in outside Republican spending and a last-minute Trump rally" to seal Democratic candidate Dan McCready's fate in the 9th District."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dan-bishop-north-carolina-ninth-district-special-election-results-dan-bishop

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    3 months ago

Not a major victory, a very, very narrow victory.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    3 months ago

Isn't it interesting that some folks think a narrow victory is somehow worse than a narrow defeat?

Of course, some of those same folks think winning the popular vote for President is relevant, too!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2    3 months ago

It is an interesting concept - in other words even when the President wins, they claim he loses!

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    3 months ago

Yes, the 'president' is a loser in every way.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    3 months ago

I worry about folks like that, though.

WTF did they learn in school about elections?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    3 months ago

The Republican won this district by 16 points in 2016.  After Trump was president for two years the margin was down to two points, which is where it was again last night. The district has been Republican in the House since the early 1960's  without interruption, and often has been represented by some of the most conservative members of Congress. 

And yet you think a two point win in a red district is a matter for Trumpsters to rejoice over.  Have your fun while it lasts. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.5  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.3    3 months ago

They forgot what they were taught, evidently.

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.4    3 months ago

How's about that referendum???

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.4    3 months ago

Did you read my first article on this?  The district has been changing like so many:

"The vote in North Carolina followed a reliable pattern of the Trump era: McCready cleaned up in the immediate suburbs of Charlotte, where the president has been unpopular, even improving on his 2018 margins in many precincts. But Bishop did even better in the rural and exurban stretches of the district, outmatching McCready’s base."

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
6.2.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.4    3 months ago
After Trump was president for two years the margin was down to two points, which is where it was again last night

The Republican won in 2018 by .2%, and won this election by 2%, despite being outspent and the allegations of cheating etc... A similar increase in republican vote would have flipped 10 house seats red in 2018.   

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.9  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.7    3 months ago

BTW there was another election in North Carolina last night:

Greg Murphy  (R) defeated  Allen Thomas  (D),  Tim Harris  (L), and  Greg Holt  (Constitution Party) in the special election for  North Carolina's 3rd Congressional District  seat in the  U.S. House of Representatives  on September 10, 2019. The district's former incumbent, Rep.  Walter Jones  (R), died February 10, 2019. [1]


Murphy didn't need Trump's magic touch!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.10  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.6    3 months ago
How's about that referendum???

It will become Don Lemon's resting place.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.2.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.6    3 months ago

The only thing that would have been a good sign for Trump is if the Republican had won by at least 7 or 8 points. A two point win for the Republican means that Trump is weaker than he was in 2016 in these sorts of places.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.2.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.10    3 months ago

I guess y'all should be happy your man won.  That is understandable compared to losing. But this was not a good sign for Trump's future, if you care about that. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.13  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.11    3 months ago

Why would anyone expect an 8 point win when fickle suburban women don't know which way to vote?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.14  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.12    3 months ago
I guess y'all should be happy your man won.

Even the despondent Don Lemon was able to concede "a win is a win."

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.11    3 months ago

Could have sworn you posted something about it being a referendum on Trump.

Guess he won.

Spinning a loss still means it is a loss.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.2.16  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.12    3 months ago

Why not?  Bishop won, Trump will win.   

That John, makes it a WIN / WIN

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.2.17  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.6    3 months ago
Frank Luntz, a veteran pollster and message-maker for GOP candidates, likened Bishop's win to a heavily favored college football team hanging on in the final minutes against an opponent that shouldn't have been in the ballgame.

"Conservative Twitter celebrating a 2-point win in a +12 GOP district from 2016 is like Michigan celebrating a win over Army in double-overtime," he wrote on Twitter.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/alarm-bells-should-be-ringing-trump-hq-after-nc-house-n1052276
 
 
 
MrFrost
6.2.18  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.8    3 months ago

How do you figure republicans won in 2018? They lost the house. And please, dont tell us how they won the Senate since they already had control anyway. In no way can anyone claim republicans won in 2018, it was an epic beating.

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.2.19  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.17    3 months ago

A win is a win is a win.

And spinning doesn't change that simple old fact.

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.2.20  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.18    3 months ago
In no way can anyone claim republicans won in 2018, it was an epic beating.

Funny thing is Trump lost significantly less seats than did Obama or Clinton.

GOP lost 41 seats in the House in his first midterm, Obama and Democrats lost 69 seats, and Clinton and Democrats lost 60 seats.

Real fucking "epic".

 
 
 
MrFrost
6.2.21  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @6.2.16    3 months ago
Bishop won, Trump will win. 

Perhaps, but I doubt it. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
6.2.22  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.14    3 months ago

Even the despondent Don Lemon was able to concede "a win is a win."

I saw that, but I don't know where you get "despondent", I didn't see that at all. Sounds to me like you are telling us what you WANT to believe. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
6.2.23  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.18    3 months ago

In no way can anyone claim republicans won in 2018, it was an epic beating.

I have no idea what you are talking about.  I wrote that if every Republican's share of the vote was two points higher in 2018 (how much they improved in NC9 since 2018), they would have won 10 additional house seats. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.24  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.22    3 months ago
I saw that, but I don't know where you get "despondent",

You didn't see Don's chin hitting the floor or his mouth gaped open?  Take another look.

 
 
 
MrFrost
6.2.25  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.24    3 months ago

At no point did I see Don Lemons chin on the floor vic. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
6.2.26  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.23    3 months ago

I have no idea what you are talking about.  I wrote that if every Republican's share of the vote was two points higher in 2018 (how much they improved in NC9 since 2018), they would have won 10 additional house seats. 

Republicans lost 40 seats in the house, how is that a "win"? 

House results.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/06/us/elections/results-house-elections.html

Senate results.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/06/us/elections/results-senate-elections.html

Seriously, if that's winning there is something wrong with the damn scoreboard. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.2.27  KDMichigan  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.26    3 months ago
Seriously, if that's winning there is something wrong with the damn scoreboard. 

Is this revisionism? I thought Democrats were going to take the senate in 2018?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/360077-keith-ellison-predicts-dems-will-take-back-house-and-senate-in-2018

Remember that "Blue Wave" you were posting about?

Gee didn't republicans actually gain seats?

256

 
 
 
Jack_TX
6.2.28  Jack_TX  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.26    3 months ago
Republicans lost 40 seats in the house, how is that a "win"?

I wouldn't call it a win, but I wouldn't call it an "epic beating", either.

2010 was an epic beating.  2018 wasn't particularly unusual.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
7  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

Despite being massively outspent and allegations of cheating in the 2018 election dragging him down, the republican improved his performance from just a few months ago.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
7.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    3 months ago

Dan Bishop proven to be a good replacement to Mark Harris.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
 
 
XDm9mm
9  XDm9mm    3 months ago

Leah Askarinam

What the North Carolina election in the 9th District foreshadows about 2020

If formerly Republican voters in suburban Charlotte continue the trend from the midterms and vote Democrat, it's another sign the GOP is in trouble.
Well, one can only surmise that the talking heads at NBC are pissing their pants right about now.  2020 is getting closer and they're being set up to lose.
CONGRATULATIONS to Dan Bishop.
 
 
 
MrFrost
9.1  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @9    3 months ago

He won by less than 5000 votes. He should have won by nearly 20000 votes. Yea he won but the point is that the race should not have been nearly that close.

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @9.1    3 months ago
Yea he won but the point is that the race should not have been nearly that close.

Silly GOP!!!

Thinking that the POINT of elections is to win! 

How weird is THAT?????

 
 
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