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British lawmaker dies following shooting and stabbing attack that stuns nation

  

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British lawmaker dies following shooting and stabbing attack that stuns nation

A member of Britain’s Parliament was shot and stabbed to death Thursday in an attack that stunned the nation and brought to an immediate halt the country's European Union referendum campaign just a week before the vote.

Police did not provide a motive for the killing. But British media organizations including the Guardian and Sky News quoted witnesses as saying that the assailant shouted "Britain First!" during and after the attack — a slogan linked to anti-immigrant groups.

Police officials in the northern English region of West Yorkshire said Jo Cox, a 41-year-old member of the center-left Labour Party who has been outspoken in advocating for civilian victims in Syria, was pronounced dead an hour after she was assaulted outside a library near the city of Leeds.

Police said they think that a 52-year-old man who was taken into custody was responsible for the attack, and they did not think there were accomplices.

Britain First is the name of a far-right group that stages provocative anti-Muslim demonstrations . Following Thursday's attack, the organization posted a statement on its website denying involvement, and saying it "would never encourage behavior of this sort."

 

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Larry Hampton
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link   seeder  Larry Hampton    8 years ago

Britain’s Press Association quoted witnesses in reporting that a man who works at a nearby dry cleaners initially tried to stop the assailant. The attacker, who was wearing a white baseball cap, then scuffled with Cox before shooting her at least twice and lunging at her with a knife.

“He was fighting with her and wrestling with her and then the gun went off twice and then she fell between two cars and I came and saw her bleeding on the floor,” the Press Association quoted a man named Hithem Ben Abdallah, who claimed to have witnessed the attack, as saying.

 
 
 
Dowser
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link   Dowser    8 years ago

Poor woman!  May she rest in peace!

 
 
 
Spikegary
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link   Spikegary    8 years ago

Terrible to see these things-I wonder what the 'reason' is.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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link   JohnRussell  replied to  Spikegary   8 years ago

The story says he shouted "Britain First" as he attacked her, which is a slogan used by anti-immigration rightists in England.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell   8 years ago

I have no doubt that this will have some effect of the June 23rd vote, in that the voters will become concerned about leaving the EU.  I think that the motive of the shooter will have the opposite effect of what he wanted.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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link   seeder  Larry Hampton  replied to  Buzz of the Orient   8 years ago

Sure throws a monkey-wrench into the referendum campaign; as well, how this affects that dynamic, is actually fairly scary.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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link   JohnRussell    8 years ago

Right wing maniac.

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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link   Petey Coober    8 years ago

In Britain public ownership of guns is illegal . That didn't stop the assailant from having one though ...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Petey Coober   8 years ago

Can it fire dozens of rounds in under a minute?  I'll take my chances with a gun that is "either homemade or an antique" over what any psycho can buy here in the US any day.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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link   JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah   8 years ago

News has actually reported that it was an "old fashioned" gun that was used.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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link   Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell   8 years ago

old fashioned could mean a revolver made in the mid 1800s , generally anything over 100 years old is considered an antique.

 

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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link   Petey Coober  replied to  Hal A. Lujah   8 years ago

I'll take my chances with a gun that is "either homemade or an antique" over what any psycho can buy here in the US any day.

Why ?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Petey Coober   8 years ago

Either that isn't a serious question, or you are even dumber than anyone thought.

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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link   Petey Coober  replied to  Hal A. Lujah   8 years ago

Translating your snark into English : I don't have any reason but I like being insulting

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Petey Coober   8 years ago

384

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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link   Petey Coober  replied to  Hal A. Lujah   8 years ago

You seem to believe you are more intelligent than anyone else here . Newsflash : you got nuthin' . The proof is simple . You are afraid  to answer my one word question .

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Petey Coober   8 years ago

I don't think that I'm the most intelligent, but I would have to dumb myself down to answer your question.  A lot.

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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link   Petey Coober  replied to  Hal A. Lujah   8 years ago

You've already dumbed yourself down by replying with meaningless snark and shown fear about defending your own prior words .  Your present a bluff by snarking my question pretending you are so f'in smart no one would dare to challenge you . But I challenged you & you are too cowardly to respond . You still got nuthin' .

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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link   Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Petey Coober   8 years ago

Ild be careful with such a statement , my AR is home made , hand built ,  same as my replica hawkens , both the pistol and the rifle , on the antique patent and all 3 are accurate at the ranges they should be, and extremely accurate compared to factory made commercial made ones.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Mark in Wyoming   8 years ago

Maybe you should go murder some people with them!  Just think of how you will stand out amongst the landscape of mass murderers, being almost the only one who used an antique to shoot 100+/- people.

 
 
 
Cerenkov
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link   Cerenkov  replied to  Hal A. Lujah   8 years ago

You are truly worthless. You lost another argument and respond by suggesting another member commit murder. Why even come here among decent folk?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Cerenkov   8 years ago

Omg ... the stupid - MAKE IT STOP!

I'm arguing with trolls who pretend to think an antique pistol (per eye witness discription) is as lethal as any other modern weapon.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
link   Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Hal A. Lujah   8 years ago

ask the british parliament member how lethal an antique pistol is , better yet , go stand 20 yards down range and catch bullets  and find out yourself ...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Mark in Wyoming   8 years ago

Better yet, I'll ask the nearest hundred people  to the incident, who weren't murdered by a mass murderer with an antique.  I bet they would agree with me, as any person with half a brain would.

 

 
 
 
Cerenkov
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link   Cerenkov  replied to  Hal A. Lujah   8 years ago

Duh. It was an assassination not a mass murder.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Cerenkov   8 years ago

Oh, well then I guess the fact that it could have been a mass murder means nothing at all.  I'll just have to wait until a mass murderer shoots 100+/- people with an antique for my insight to be relevent.

Newstalkers - get dumber here.

 
 
 
Uncle Bruce
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link   Uncle Bruce  replied to  Hal A. Lujah   8 years ago

Timothy McVeigh killed more, without firing a shot.

9/11 Hijackers killed far more...with box cutters.

Your angst against semi-automatic firearms is misplaced, unfounded, and frankly, boring. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Uncle Bruce   8 years ago

Firearm-related death rate per 100,000 population per year

320

 
 
 
Cerenkov
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link   Cerenkov  replied to  Hal A. Lujah   8 years ago

Your comments are becoming increasingly incoherent. Are you drunk?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Cerenkov   8 years ago

You congratulate yourself on every lame comment you make with a thumbs up.  Are you lonely?

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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link   Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Hal A. Lujah   8 years ago

Hal and if you remove , Los Angeles , Chicago , Washington DC, Baltimore , New Orleans and NYC from the tallies , those 6 cities , the rest of the country has a  rate comparable to that of the EU , where they have strict gun control. those cities have the same type of gun control as the EU , and they have something else in common all liberal controlled , and just those 6 cities has a higher rate than the EU even with those types of controls. Its not a gun problem , its a people problem its a political leaning problem.

 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Mark in Wyoming   8 years ago

Guess what - there's big cities in the UK too.  I know, crazy right?  How can gun control possibly have worked in a big city?

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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link   Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Hal A. Lujah   8 years ago

Hal , that's the question I have been asking you and every other anti 2nd person because that's the solution you ALL profess, gun control and bans, so you just admitted that gun control and bans doesn't work.

link 06/16/16 09:44:14PM @hal-a-lujah :

 

Guess what - there's big cities in the UK too.  I know, crazy right?  How can gun control possibly have worked in a big city?

Thank you for being honest at least one time in your life. you are dismissed.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Mark in Wyoming   8 years ago
Are you joking, or trolling?  Nobody is claiming that gun crimes can be completely eliminated, but they can be drastically reduced - as evidenced by the statistics that I posted.  If you can't understand statistics you probably shouldn't even be part of this discussion.
 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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link   Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Hal A. Lujah   8 years ago

HAHAHA...... must be a bitch to not be able to win an argument without having to revert to ad honem  attack and even then know you have nothing anyway, because nothing has to be given to you..... buh bye Felicia....

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
link   Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Mark in Wyoming   8 years ago

could always make myself a puckle gun( look it up it existed before the revolutionary war) and shoot square bullets at em , round ones are for Christians and their sympathizers , square ones are for moooslims and their sympathizers .....

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Mark in Wyoming   8 years ago

That's some knee slappin gun nerd humor, I bet.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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link   JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah   8 years ago

I was going to ask him to explain to us what that means in English.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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link   Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell   8 years ago

John the Puckle gun was designed by an English doctor , it had a single barrel but was one of the first firearms  with a cylinder that revolved by use of a crank, it was created around the 1760s or so, it never caught on because the crank was , well crancky and delicate, it was said to have 2 types of bullets made for it , the normal round ones that is said was to be used on other Christians , and yes square ones for use on those not of the Christian faith , mainly stemming from the erroneous belief it created more devastating wounds.

 gun nerd , guilty

 history nerd , guilty

 law abiding gun owner , for now

psychotic maniacal murderer, nope you cockslobbering chicken dick lickers....

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
link   JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming   8 years ago

nobody , writ large,  cares about the history of guns, anymore than they care about the history of bee keeping or home brewing. I will say though that you are more entertaining and sound more educated than some of the people here. You should come around more often.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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link   Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell   8 years ago

john , I will take that as a compliment . I am a firm believer that in order not to repeat history , one must study history, its where many of my personal beliefs origionate, as for the page , I read it every day , I just don't usually have much to say , I think the last 3 days has been the most I have posted , than since my father passed awayin 2014 and the entire time that has elapsed since then.

 to me the history of gun development is important because one argument I often hear is that the writers of the constitution couldn't have envisioned the technological advances , I say bullshit , the puckle gun existed in their time as did the volley gun , they knew someone would come along tinkering and solve the problems with the timing and all , they also had a breech loading rifle at the time , the british used it ( the Anderson gun I think) it wasn't practicle because the mechanism was weak,  and it was expensive  with a minimal increase in rate of fire,it took about 40 more years of tinkering to make it both stronger and practicle , they knew flintlocks were going to be obsolete . that's why they did make the constitution changeable , but I have to wonder , why did they make the second , so straight forward ( even though today its argued that it isn't) , and so hard to change?  they knew these things would happen , but wrote things the way they did , and they made it difficult to change the very basic essence of what they wanted to protect.

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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link   Nowhere Man  replied to  Mark in Wyoming   8 years ago

Hell Eli Whitney, the one who made slavery pay with his cotton Gin?

He is also famous for introducing mass production/parts interchangeability to the firearms of the time. Greatly easing the difficult job of hand making each and every firearm.

Was a HUGE leap forward in technology that went way farther and had much more impact on society than just gun making. (or the cotton gin)

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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link   Mark in Wyoming     8 years ago

pete you have a point , the only way gun bans work is if everyone obeys the law.

 and the only way a gun ban total or by specific make would work in this country is if everyone obeyed the law voluntarily, it cant be forced because there is no way to prove or disprove compliance until after the fact.

Call me crazy, but I don't see that happening even in my wildest dreams.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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link   JohnRussell    8 years ago

Left-wing lawmaker shot dead by nationalist shouting “Britain first!”, as far-right is on rise in Europe

A left-wing lawmaker was fatally shot and stabbed by a British nationalist on Thursday, reports say, as tensions flare mere days before the U.K. votes on whether or not to leave the European Union.

This attack comes at a time when the far-right is on the rise throughout Europe, fueling extremist violence.

Labour Party MP Jo Cox, who opposes an exit from the E.U., was slain outside of a library in Birstall, West Yorkshire on Thursday afternoon. Eyewitnesses, according to reports, say she was shot three times and stabbed several times.

Multiple witnesses say the alleged killer repeatedly shouted “Britain first!” as he attacked her. This could potentially be a reference to Britain First, a far-right, anti-immigrant party that supports Brexit, a British exit from the E.U.

Britain First, however, strongly denies any involvement, and issued a statement saying it “could have been a slogan rather than a reference to our party.” The far-right party’s leader, Paul Golding, condemned the attack and said the shooter could have actually shouted, “It’s time to put Britain first!”

Four hours after the attack, Cox was declared dead.

British officials arrested  the suspected attacker, 52-year-old Tommy Mair .

Cox, 41, was a mother of two children, ages 3 and 5.

The U.K. will vote on Brexit on June 23. Polls show that Britons will likely vote to remain in the E.U.

The Labour Party, led by insurgent, longtime socialist activist Jeremy Corbyn — who has been described as the British Bernie Sanders — opposes Brexit.

Far-right political parties such as Britain First and the U.K. Independence Party, or UKIP, hope to leave in order to cut down on immigration and push back against refugees. They see the E.U. as a bureaucracy that curtails the sovereignty of their country.

Britain First insists it is not a racist party, instead identifying itself as “loyalist.” Its founder, Jim Dowson, left the party 2014, however, warning that it was full of “racists and extremists.”

The extreme anti-Muslim party has “Christian patrols” that stage “ invasions ” of British mosques. It has applauded Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump for proposing a ban on Muslims from entering the U.S.

 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Participates
link   1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell   8 years ago

Salon as your source?????  C'mon John - you've got more intelligence than that.

 
 
 
Uncle Bruce
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link   Uncle Bruce  replied to  1stwarrior   8 years ago

1st, you are not allowed to question John's sources.  ALL of John's sources are impeccable, unimpeachable, and of the highest caliber of integrity.  Only he is allowed to question sources. 

 
 

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