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Trump Threatens to Stop U.S. Trade With China.

  

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Via:  321steve  •  9 years ago  •  23 comments

Trump Threatens to Stop U.S. Trade With China.

President Donald Trump just suggested a policy that would strip consumer goods from the shelves of American stores, jeopardize hundreds of thousands of U.S. jobs and spark a meltdown across the global economy, according to experts.

His comments angered China, with Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang labeling them "unacceptable" and "unfair" on Monday.

But stopping all trade with China — not to mention other countries such as Mexico, France and Saudi Arabia, which all trade with North Korea — would not only cause pain in Beijing.

"We're talking about a global recession and devastation for the global economy," according to Marianne Schneider-Petsinger, the U.S. geoeconomics fellow at Chatham House, a think tank based in London.

"Cutting off trade with China would trigger a trade war and a protectionist spiral that would have adverse consequences for the entire world," she said. "China could also retaliate.

 

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Packages labeled "Made in China" are loaded on a UPS truck for delivery.   Mark Lennihan / AP

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/north-korea-crisis-could-trump-stop-u-s-trade-china-n798561


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321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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link   seeder  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu     9 years ago

RBR....LOL No 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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link   seeder  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu     9 years ago

trump's tools, insults, grandiose promises, intimidation and threats. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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link   Kavika     9 years ago

And now Trump wants to pull out of the free trade agreement with South Korea...

Way to go Trumpy...Screw up the U.S. economy, we'll do really well in a trade war with have the world./s

 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Kavika   9 years ago

He's just pulling levers to see what they do.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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link   seeder  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Hal A. Lujah   9 years ago

"He's just pulling levers to see what they do."

Shouldn't he have advisors to help give him that information ?

When you learn to drive a bulldozer I'll bet they tell ya what the levers do, the presidency is kinda the same. You shouldn't have to experiment with the controls to see WTF they do. With trump at the controls I wouldn't be surprised if he runs it into a wall or a ditch and blames someone else as he walks away.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson  replied to  Hal A. Lujah   9 years ago

He's just pulling levers to see what they do.

Sadly, I think it's much worse than that.

He just shot his mouth off, without thinking about (or caring about) the consequences.

Let's not forget that the current crisis began with Trump making totally unnecessary noise. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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link   sandy-2021492    9 years ago

Would that include clothing made by his and his also-unqualified daughter's companies?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient    9 years ago

Just before moving to China, I had to use a $100 points accumulation certificate I had for Canada's high end department store, Holt-Renfrew (Neiman-Marcus and Holt-Renfrew accept each other's charge cards), and while looking through the clothing, and it was very high end and expensive, I took note that most of it was made in China - this was not Wal-Mart quality.  I ended up using my certificate to buy a belt (that was made in Canada). As well, I went to another department store and found a key chain with a fob that had a miniature compass (perfect for a person travelling), a tiny flashlight, a folded knife and a folded screwdriver combined with a bottle cap opener. Perfect !  So I bought it and it wasn't until I was in China that I noticed that it was made in China.  In Niagara Falls, Ontario, I was in a souvenir store that had all kinds of "genuine" Indian and Inuit handicraft souvenirs, snowcones, etc.  They were ALL made in China.

I really think that blocking trade with China would be such a disaster (and China will retaliate, making it worse for American producers) that it will lead to a massive depression that will last for years.  Maybe Trump thinks it will force China to swat North Korea, but let's not forget that America owes China trillions of dollars, and China doesn't owe America a cent.

 
 
 
ausmth
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link   ausmth    9 years ago

He is trying to force China's hand.  They will have to choose between the US and their puppet.  NK is a handy buffer between them and the free world of SK.  Trump is trying to drive up the cost of the buffer.  All China needs to do is tell Lil' Kim that they have decided to sit out any armed conflict between NK and the US no matter who fires the first shot.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient  replied to  ausmth   9 years ago

I doubt that China will do that. China will probably just sit back now and let Trump hang himself.

China has made it clear already that it will defend NK if America starts an invasion, and if NK does, it will do nothing to help it.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson  replied to  ausmth   9 years ago

He is trying to force China's hand.  

He doesn't know what he is doing. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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link   seeder  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Bob Nelson   9 years ago

"He doesn't know what he is doing."

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Although I’d love to agree I also have learned to never underestimate this man.

He was a joke when he announced running , everyone underestimated him, he was the underdog and won the nomination and then the presidency and no one could stop him and still everyone underestimates him.

 

he could be too dangerous to underestimate for too long. The damage or good he could do is yet to be recognized. 

 but believe it or not in his own twisted ways I do think he has good intentions. 

I dont believe in them but  I do believe he does.

Personality I can't stand the man's personality style or the way he operates. I just do not like him . period.

and I dont think he has any business being president but he is and we're stuck with him for now. 

 

A childlike classless authoritarian style megalomaniac is now the most powerful and heavily armed human on the planet... If that doesn't concern a person, I dont know WTF would.

 
 
 
ausmth
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link   ausmth  replied to  Bob Nelson   9 years ago

People who sell others short tend to come up short. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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link   seeder  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu     9 years ago

The president has so much responsibility I’ll bet their mind is going 24/7. No wonder they all find something to give them that Zen moment where the world melts away and you are at one with the moment.

Trump has got to be  spinning inside, he’s not wanted by many (which he hates) his ideas, solutions and proposals (campaign promises) are going nowhere, 2/3 ths of congress is already very skeptical of his competence and proposals.  The  Russia investigation is in the back ground, The only way he’s been able to accomplish anything is thru executive orders.  N Korea is a huge problem,  The hurricane just happened and that takes attention, his tools of insults, grandiose promises, intimidation and threats are slowly but surely losing their power and he has got to be under pleasure.

Unfortunately. Most people with mental illnesses do not do well under pressure for extended periods of time.

Symptoms of megalomania:

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- sleeplessness.

- hyperactivity, garrulity.

- narcissism (narcissism).

- aggression in relation to people around them, bullying.

- frequent change of moods.

- concentration on own thoughts, ignores others advice.

- a mania for greatness or grandiose performance.

- lack of interest to the opinion of people around them.

- a delusional mental disorder that is marked by feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur.

- a condition or mental illness that causes people to think that they have great or unlimited power or importance.

- revaluation by the patient of the self importance, physical and mental abilities.

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All symptoms of megalomania.

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Disease is dangerous with possible development of a depression and aphrenia.

(aphrenia) full blown mental meltdown.

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Megalomania isn’t considered as an individual disease, but as a symptom at maniacal syndrome, paranoia, or as one of complex inferiority complex types. Megalomania is a disorder of mentality at which the consciousness or behavior of the person is seriously broken. It is shown in revaluation of own importance, popularity, wealth, power, significance.

 

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              Well, Hello Mr. authoritarian style megalomaniac president Trump,

                                         We were just talking about you.  

                                         Good luck keeping it together !!

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       Good Luck to the republicans, You own this mess lock, stock and barrel !! 

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ausmth
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link   ausmth  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   9 years ago

Seen this response before Steve.  The first time stated your position.  Repeating it multiple times doesn't.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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link   seeder  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  ausmth   9 years ago

Sorry I didn't realize YOU were the only person reading stuff here.

 
 
 
ausmth
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link   ausmth  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   9 years ago

Everyone on this thread has seen it before.  Everyone who reads it knows it is just political hyperbole including you.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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link   seeder  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  ausmth   9 years ago

"Everyone who reads it knows it is just political hyperbole including you."

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Not everyone is wanting to ignore reality. And every word I wrote is true. 

Sorry If you dont like it. But, I'm not here to win popularity contests.

 
 
 
ausmth
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link   ausmth  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   9 years ago

Not everyone is wanting to ignore reality. And every word I wrote is true.

But not of the president.  What you wrote are the symptoms and you reached your conclusion based on your political bias and not an in person examination.  What medical professional would make a diagnosis without meeting the patient?  Are you a medical professional?

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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link   seeder  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  ausmth   9 years ago

"Are you a medical professional?"

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NO

Since when does a person need to be a medical professional to know when a person is not sane ?

I see many people everyday. I never see anyone with the symptoms trump displays on an ongoing basis.

Do you ? Do you know anyone who fits the bill of the above mentioned symptoms personally ?

From time to time I wll see a mentally ill person and yes I can spot them a mile away.

I am familiar with the signs of mental illness manic depression runs in my family. And I have visited mental health hospitals many times and been one on  one with the insane. 

Believe me, It doesn't take a genius or a trained professional to know insanity if you know what your looking for and at !

 
 
 
ausmth
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link   ausmth  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   9 years ago

Believe me, It doesn't take a genius or a trained professional to know insanity if you know what your looking for and at !

It does take objectivity though.  Can you be objective given the bias you have shown?

 
 
 
1ofmany
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link   1ofmany    9 years ago

Trump campaigned on the belief that handling international affairs is no different than making deals in private business. Since he's a deal maker in business then international affairs was supposed to be a snap. I don't actually know how he handled his business deals but making threats to destroy his adversaries in law suits was apparently a common tactic and, as president, making threats to destroy people seems to be all that he brings to the table here. 

Threatening NK is pointless because they consider our entire foreign policy toward them (under Obama and Trump) to be a threat. NK wants a change in our policy and is being more provocative to get it. Conducting joint military exercises with SK, flying bombers near NK, and openly advocating about regime change is not helping. The more Trump rattles a saber, the more NK sees the need to protect itself. The only thing China wants less than a nuclear NK is a unified Korea allied to the US and sitting on its doorstep. Threatening China is a seriously stupid way to get more cooperation. 

China and Russia have permanent seats on the UN Security Council and will never approve of military action against NK. They want us to sit down and talk this out because, when all is said and done, we'll have to do that either to prevent war or to conclude an armistice after hundreds of thousands have needlessly died. 

Trump is right that talking hasn't worked so far but just pulling levers and pushing buttons out of frustration is dangerous. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson  replied to  1ofmany   9 years ago

You mean he can't just fire Kim?

Somebody should tell him... 

 
 

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