President Trump Upholds The Constitution By Dumping DACA, And Critics Freak Out
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President Trump Upholds The Constitution By Dumping DACA, And Critics Freak Out
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Rule Of Law: What happens when the president of the United States decides to uphold the Constitution's separation of powers and appropriately defers to Congress on immigration law? If his name is Donald Trump, everyone has a nervous breakdown.
At a news conference on Tuesday, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that President Trump was rescinding Obama's "Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals," an executive order that let young people in the country illegally apply to get a renewable two-year work authorization and other benefits, including participating in Social Security.
Obama enacted DACA in June 2012 after Congress failed to pass immigration reforms he wanted. Obama said that in the face of congressional inaction, he was going to reshape the country's immigration policy all on his own, or has he put it, take "steps to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people." But even Obama described DACA as a "temporary, stopgap measure."
Well, within five years more than 800,000 illegals had been effectively granted amnesty under the program, and the "temporary" part of it had long been forgotten. Obama also didn't seem to care if his move was constitutional or not.
The courts had struck down one of Obama's other unilateral immigration orders, and DACA would likely have suffered the same fate. And Sessions explained in announcing DACA's repeal that Obama "deliberately sought to achieve what the legislative branch specifically refused to authorize on multiple occasions. Such an open-ended circumvention of immigration laws was an unconstitutional exercise of authority by the executive branch."
(Yet somehow, Obama was never accused of being an authoritarian by the people who've been denouncing Trump as one.)
The Trump administration has also been careful to let the program wind down over six months, making it clear that Congress can use that time to do its job and change the nation's immigration laws, if it so chooses. Lawmakers could, for example, craft rules to protect those currently in DACA.
In other words, Trump is putting the DACA ball in Congress' court, where it belonged all along.
Constitutional issues aside, however, DACA as Obama implemented it was bad public policy.
As we noted in this space in the wake of Obama's unilateral action, DACA wasn't about "the children" so much as it was about partisan politics.
First, despite its name, DACA applied to anyone under the age of 30 — in other words, adults. While DACA may have opened the doors to colleges and jobs for these "dreamers," it also closed them for many American citizens. Plus, the fact that just 5% of applications were denied smacked of poor enforcement, at least.
DACA was also clearly part of the Democrats' broader strategy to grant widespread amnesty to illegals, mainly as a way to get more Democratic voters. And it was largely responsible for the flood of children who started pouring across the border not long after Obama announced his executive order.
"Make no mistake," we said at the time, "the DACA program — which gives illegal immigrants under 30 a pass to take U.S. jobs and education — is the main magnet now drawing illegals north."
Despite all this, we get to witness yet another emotional breakdown by Trump's critics.
Immigration activists called Trump a "liar" and a "monster." Protesters outside the White House carried signs that said "We are America" and "We want education, down with deportation."
United Farm Workers President Arturo Rodriguez called Trump's decision "heartless and immoral."
Now you can expect waves of news stories about how lives will be ruined because of Trump's decision. USA Today already has a commentary on its website written by a DACA enrollee who says keeping DACA in place is about "who we want to be as a nation."
And here we thought that "who we want to be as a nation" was enshrined in the Constitution, not the arbitrary and illegal acts of a former president. http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/president-trump-upholds-the-constitution-by-dumping-daca-and-critics-freak-out/
President Trump Upholds The Constitution By Dumping DACA, And Critics Freak Out
2:46 PM ET
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Rule Of Law: What happens when the president of the United States decides to uphold the Constitution's separation of powers and appropriately defers to Congress on immigration law? If his name is Donald Trump, everyone has a nervous breakdown.
At a news conference on Tuesday, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that President Trump was rescinding Obama's "Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals," an executive order that let young people in the country illegally apply to get a renewable two-year work authorization and other benefits, including participating in Social Security.
Obama enacted DACA in June 2012 after Congress failed to pass immigration reforms he wanted. Obama said that in the face of congressional inaction, he was going to reshape the country's immigration policy all on his own, or has he put it, take "steps to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people." But even Obama described DACA as a "temporary, stopgap measure."
Well, within five years more than 800,000 illegals had been effectively granted amnesty under the program, and the "temporary" part of it had long been forgotten. Obama also didn't seem to care if his move was constitutional or not.
The courts had struck down one of Obama's other unilateral immigration orders, and DACA would likely have suffered the same fate. And Sessions explained in announcing DACA's repeal that Obama "deliberately sought to achieve what the legislative branch specifically refused to authorize on multiple occasions. Such an open-ended circumvention of immigration laws was an unconstitutional exercise of authority by the executive branch."
(Yet somehow, Obama was never accused of being an authoritarian by the people who've been denouncing Trump as one.)
The Trump administration has also been careful to let the program wind down over six months, making it clear that Congress can use that time to do its job and change the nation's immigration laws, if it so chooses. Lawmakers could, for example, craft rules to protect those currently in DACA.
In other words, Trump is putting the DACA ball in Congress' court, where it belonged all along.
Constitutional issues aside, however, DACA as Obama implemented it was bad public policy.
As we noted in this space in the wake of Obama's unilateral action, DACA wasn't about "the children" so much as it was about partisan politics.
First, despite its name, DACA applied to anyone under the age of 30 — in other words, adults. While DACA may have opened the doors to colleges and jobs for these "dreamers," it also closed them for many American citizens. Plus, the fact that just 5% of applications were denied smacked of poor enforcement, at least.
DACA was also clearly part of the Democrats' broader strategy to grant widespread amnesty to illegals, mainly as a way to get more Democratic voters. And it was largely responsible for the flood of children who started pouring across the border not long after Obama announced his executive order.
"Make no mistake," we said at the time, "the DACA program — which gives illegal immigrants under 30 a pass to take U.S. jobs and education — is the main magnet now drawing illegals north."
Despite all this, we get to witness yet another emotional breakdown by Trump's critics.
Immigration activists called Trump a "liar" and a "monster." Protesters outside the White House carried signs that said "We are America" and "We want education, down with deportation."
United Farm Workers President Arturo Rodriguez called Trump's decision "heartless and immoral."
Now you can expect waves of news stories about how lives will be ruined because of Trump's decision. USA Today already has a commentary on its website written by a DACA enrollee who says keeping DACA in place is about "who we want to be as a nation."
And here we thought that "who we want to be as a nation" was enshrined in the Constitution, not the arbitrary and illegal acts of a former president. http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/president-trump-upholds-the-constitution-by-dumping-daca-and-critics-freak-out/
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Lets see what congress can do in the six months it has to develop something better that is within the law and constitution. I'll venture a guess that the Dems will be in full hissy fit mode (again) and will refuse to work with anybody outside of their safe zone to make this better.
republic's have the power, let's see what they dont do. (Again)
I'm pretty sure it won't be a back door way around the law like DACA was.
"I'm pretty sure it won't be a back door way around the law like DACA was."
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And I doubt congress gets off its ass and does anything.
Like I said. There are many in hissy fit mode to do anything productive. We've been watching it since the election.
"There are many in hissy fit mode to do anything productive."
the desire to do and the doing are two separate things, Seeing how devided the republican party is .... Good luck doing anything that actually helps anyone but maybe their donors.
Yeah on second thought they may actually vote to kick the dreamers out of the country.
"Seeing how devided the republican party is .... Good luck doing anything that actually helps anyone but maybe their donors. "
Yeah, because the Dems are so much better. We see how their methods work in cities like Detroit. Just a gleaming example of "outstanding" leadership.
" cities like Detroit"
cities like Detroit and most of the midwest's economy died off long ago, millions are still sitting there waiting, hoping and praying that the government steps in and fixes the problem but operating a city or a country in a dying economy has got to be tough.
This isn't 2009, when Democrats had filibuster proof control of Congress and a Democratic President. Democrats have made clear they will block any sort of comprise immigration bill, for fear it will make Trump look good. Maybe they will change their mind once Dreamers start getting deported.
Although it's amusing that Democrats talk about a "moral obligation" to act, when they legislated DACA into law without a single Republican vote. Amazing how these "moral obligations" only arise when politically advantageous for Democrats.
Should read:
when they could have legislated DACA into law
ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW
President Trump Gets Attorney General Jeff Sessions to Ignore The Constitution by Dumping DACA, And Lies Again to America But Has Sessions Do It Because Trump Doesn't Have the Guts or Integrity To Do It Himself.
Rule Of Law: What happens when the president of the United States decides to uphold the Constitution's separation of powers and appropriately defers to Congress on immigration law? If his name is Donald Trump, everyone has a nervous breakdown.
Oh! Do you mean like when Trump signed those EXECUTIVE ORDERS for the MUSLIM BANS that the courts struck down?
(BTW, no courts struck down DACA, did they? Nope! So it kind of makes this statement total bullshit and a double-standard right? RIGHT! RIGHT WING ALL THE WAY! Just another Trump LIE, that's all.)
It is the US Attorney General's job! And, it was Pres. Trump who publicly started the ball rolling.
At a news conference on Tuesday, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that President Trump was rescinding Obama's "Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals," an executive order that let young people in the country illegally apply to get a renewable two-year work authorization and other benefits, including participating in Social Security.
At a previous News Conference Donald Trump said he "loved" those kids. Trump said he would do something good for those DACA kids, because he felt such "love" for those kids. BTW, as an afterthought Trump said those kids are actually "young adults" because they were now in their twenties. While previously he has described his own son Donny Junior, who is 39 years old, as "just a kid".
TRUMP is a HYPOCRITE.
TRUMP is a LIAR.
Sessions is a LIAR FOR TRUMP.
Sessions is a BOOTLICKER and ASSKISSER for TRUMP.
Obama enacted DACA in June 2012 after Congress failed to pass immigration reforms he wanted. Obama said that in the face of congressional inaction, he was going to reshape the country's immigration policy all on his own, or has he put it, take "steps to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people." But even Obama described DACA as a "temporary, stopgap measure."
The TRUTH is that PRESIDENT OBAMA did what he did because the Republican Party led by Turtle-man Mitch McConnell was determined to OBSTRUCT everything and anything that PRESIDENT OBAMA was trying to do, ONLY because Mitch McConnell hated PRESIDENT OBAMA.
Mitch McConnell's and John Boehner's congress is THE MOST OBSTRUCTIVE CONGRESS IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES. They OBSTRUCTED EVERYTHING that had PRESIDENT OBAMA's name on it ONLY because IT HAD PRESIDENT OBAMA's name on it.
Mitch McConnell promised to make President OBAMA a ONE TERM PRESIDENT.
Mitch McConnell FAILED.
Mitch McConnell promised to Repeal and Replace ObamaCare.
Mitch McConnell FAILED.
Mitch McConnell promised to prevent DACA from ever happening.
Mitch McConnell FAILED.
The ONLY reason that DACA has been rescinded is because gutless Trump has ass-kisser Sessions do it, so McConnell FAILED again.
And Donald Trump TWEETED if Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan can't get their Congress to come up with a replacement for DACA in SIX MOTHS then he, TRUMP, may reconsider reinstituting DACA. Get ready for McConnell/Ryan and/or TRUMP to FAIL AGAIN, BIGLY!
The REPUBLICANS are FAILURES! All the time.
Trump uphold Constitution? That's a HORSE LAUGH!
Remember this:
“I Don’t Stand by Anything,” Trump Says Before Kicking Reporter Out of Oval Office
All Trump knows how to do is LIE! Trump doesn't "uphold" anything but Trump. But he "loves" those DACA "kids"! Bullshit!
Pres. Trump is doing something. He has called on Congress to act on behalf of 800,000 illegals.
He has called on Congress to act on behalf of 800,000 illegals.
NOT of "behalf" of them. Trump call on congress AFTER he rescinded DACA to KICK OUT 800,000 good contributing members of American society, ONLY because TRUMP is trying to cover his own Orange Ass.
TRUMP IS A TWO-FACED LIAR!
Why didn't Democrats change the law to protect "800,000 good contributing members of American society" when they had a filibuster proof control of Congress?
Democrats must be two faced liars, I guess.
When did Democrats control both houses of Congress?
When did Democrats have a 'FILIBUSTER PROOF' majority in both houses of Congress?
Please tell us that.
Please tell us all EXACTLY WHEN THAT WAS, with documented PROOF.
Please tell us the TRUTH.
Please!
I shouldn't need to provide you with it. It should be common knowledge.
The Democratic Caucus had 60 Senators prior to Ted Kennedy's passing and controlled the House Even after Kennedy passed and a Republican was somehow elected in Massachusetts, the Democratic Senatorial Caucus still had 59 Senators. Given the sizable minority of Republican Senators who favor amnesty, especially amnesty for Dreamers, the Democrats could have even lost a few Democratic votes and STILL passed any immigration law they wanted.
Why did President Obama and his party fail to even lift so much as finger towards protecting "DREAMERS" by enacting the necessary legislation when it could have been so easily done? They must hate immigrant kids, I guess.
Sorry, I can't wait FOREVER for you to get back to me with an HONEST answer.
Here is the PROOF:
One of the standard Republican talking points is that the Democrats had a filibuster-proof, super majority for two years between 2008 and 2010. This talking point is usually trotted out when liberals complain that the Republicans filibustered virtually every piece of legislation proposed by Obama or the Democrats during Obama’s presidency. The implication is that Democrats had ample opportunity to pass legislation and that the reason they didn’t pass more legislation doesn’t have anything to do with the Republicans.
The Truth is that the Democrats only had a filibuster-proof majority for 60 working days during that period, insufficient time to undo even a small portion of the legislation passed during six years of Republican control. Here are the details:
When was DACA proposed? You will have to find out for yourself, but here's a lead for you to read:
Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals ( DACA ) is an American immigration policy founded by the Obama administration in June 2012.
Please. No more stupid questions. okay?
p.s. Only took me 5 minutes to prove you wrong!
So, the Dems did have a filibuster proof majority. You were wrong again. I'm sensing a pattern.
IMPASSE!
Please use impasse in the course of a discussion. [ph]
Thanks for proving me correct.
Even your own chosen source, "fact left" (no surprise a hardcore partisan like yourself would turn to an extremist left wing site) completely supports the accuracy of what I said.
Despite your own partisan left wing source confirms what I wrote, you still claim to have "proven me wrong." So that leaves only two options, you don't understand your own sources, or you are willing to make claims you know are false to service your hard left partisan agenda. Which is it?
When was DACA proposed? You will have to find out for yourself, but here's a lead for you to read:
This makes me lean towards the former because you keep making my point for me without appearing to realize it.
No shit. Obama didn't bother to propose DACA until almost four years into his Presidency. The issue is that the illegal immigrants DACA protects were subject, by law, to deportation during almost the entire first term of his Presidency.
Read again what I wrote. I said Democrats did absolutely nothing to protect "Dreamers" by changing the existing law when they had a chance with their control of Congress and the Presidency.
And your rebuttal is, get this, to prove that Obama couldn't be bothered until 2012.
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Republicans took control of the House in 2010, after just two years of the first Obama term. The reason the issue wasn't a priority probably had to do with the country being in a massive republican recession and a horrible health insurance condition that needed attention--both of which were Obama's top priorities as a candidate and as President. Once republicans had control of just one house of congress that was the death knell for any chance at immigration reform and has been ever since.
Yuval Levin sums it up very nicely:
The first lesson came from former president Barack Obama. His intervention in the DACA debate yesterday afternoon was a stark reminder of the peculiar combination of recklessness and moral preening that so often characterized his approach to the presidency. He took no responsibility for the situation he did so much to create; he just lectured the people who are stuck with it.
In immigration, as in health care, Obama left behind a legacy teetering on the edge of collapse—a series of policies that could hardly survive except through extreme efforts by a successor both equally committed to their ends and equally willing to pursue super-legal means to sustain them. Whatever you make of the substance of what he was after and of the extraordinary political challenges he confronted, Obama’s approach to policymaking amounted to a failure to account for the need for endurance, and fairly little of what he built now looks likely to endure.
Read more at:
Well said!
There's not a single fucking word in the Constitution about immigration but I do always love it when rightwing know-nothing "konsitooshunul eggspurts" either make up their own bullshit to add to it or completely ignore the plain words that are in it.
And I love it when they criticize Obama for an Executive Order on immigration (DACA) which was upheld by the courts, at the same time they say NOTHING about the Donald Trump Executive Orders (plural) on immigration (his MUSLIM BANS) that were both challenged by the court and one was completely invalidated by the court, while the other was mostly invalidated by the court.
They have such a complete lack of knowledge of The Constitution and a totally unjustifiable DOUBLE-STANDARD. Such ignorance and hypocrisy!
ROTFLMAO!
Hypocrisy of massive proportion is a pre-requisite for rightwing status.
Exactly. The right wing has exhibited extreme hypocrisy on this and other issues. They have one sloppy all-things-allowed standard for themselves, but attempt to hold the other side to a pristine Holier-Than-Thou standard they can never even come close to. They are extreme hypocrites.
That's why I always prefer to use facts and logic to make my points. And in this case, the facts are, that the Right Wing is illogical and hypocritical to the max!
DACA was not upheld by the courts. It was a split decision meaning it's constitutionality has never been resolved.
Wrong again.
IMPASSE
You and your impasse!
It's easier than admitting error.
Your comment is OFF TOPIC, because it is NOT "my Impasse" it is a SITE RULE.
A SITE RULE.
Have you read the CoC recently? (CoC #5)
OK I'm going to intervene here.
To Squirrel,
There must be an ongoing discussion to use an impasse, to mean that you will never agree and part amicably.
To Cerenkov and Mag,
You both have been taunting her, even before she has done anything. This has better stop. One warning only.
I wonder why none of our dear trumpies aren't discussing how their dear leader is already waffling on his EO by tweeting (what an infantile sicko) that he expects Congress to "fix" DACA over the next 6 months.
Give it up!
Some of them, at least one in the open, are too busy calling Trump and "asshole".
Probably because most of them know that those that have been trolling him since the elections will bring it up during one of their tantrums.