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Transgender Person On Trial For Sexually Assaulting 10-Year-Old Girl In Bathroom

  

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Via:  sixpick  •  9 years ago  •  253 comments

Transgender Person On Trial For Sexually Assaulting 10-Year-Old Girl In Bathroom

10/18/2017

A Wyoming man who identifies as a transgender woman is on trial for allegedly sexually assaulting a 10-year-old girl in a bathroom.

The trial for Miguel Martinez, who goes by the name Michelle, began on Monday, the Billings Gazette reported . Martinez allegedly invited the young girl into the bathroom with him where he allegedly fondled the girl’s breasts and genitalia, before penetrating her. The girl told police that “it hurt inside” and she started to cry, the Casper Star Tribune reported .

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Nurses at a nearby medical center “completed a sexual assault exam and found redness and abrasions on the girl’s genitalia,” according to the Gazette’s report.

Local media reports described Martinez as a “family friend” of the 10-year-old victim.


Martinez told police that the girl had been “talking crap” and dismissed the accusations as a “publicity stunt,” according to local reports.

Martinez faces charges of one count of first-degree sexual abuse of a minor and one count of second-degree sexual abuse of a minor. (RELATED: Transgender Person Arrested For Taking Pictures Of Woman In Target Dressing Room)

The trial is expected to last four days, according to the Billings Gazette.

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sixpick
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1  seeder  sixpick    9 years ago

Transgender in bathroom.jpg

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.3  Dulay  replied to  sixpick @1    9 years ago

Since nothing in the linked 'article' or the link in that article suggest that this happened in a PUBLIC bathroom, your cartoon is a reach...

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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2  Phoenyx13    9 years ago

very interesting... if this person is found guilty then hopefully she will go to jail for a very long time.

so how do you propose we prevent this ? which laws would we have to pass to make criminals obey them and not commit crimes in public bathrooms ?

 
 
 
sixpick
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2.1  seeder  sixpick  replied to  Phoenyx13 @2    9 years ago

I don't want to sound harsh Phoenyx13, but this transgender would less likely be in that bathroom if we would do what we have always done and that is have men and women's bathrooms instead of catering to the point zero three percent and catered instead to the ninety nine point ninety seven percent.

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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2.1.1  Phoenyx13  replied to  sixpick @2.1    9 years ago
I don't want to sound harsh Phoenyx13, but this transgender would less likely be in that bathroom if we would do what we have always done and that is have men and women's bathrooms instead of catering to the point zero three percent and catered instead to the ninety nine point ninety seven percent.

ah, so you think that if we pass those "Potty Laws" then criminals like the one in this article will think "darn.. even tho i identify as a woman i will have to use the men's room and just not commit a crime today... that sign on the door foiled me again due to those Potty Laws", right ? do you realize that criminals don't obey laws ?

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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2.1.3  Phoenyx13  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.2    9 years ago
Sure they do. Isn't that the same reasoning used by the GOP against more gun laws--that criminals won't obey them anyways?

it absolutely is the reasoning - so which is it ? do laws stop criminals or will criminals ignore laws ?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Phoenyx13 @2    9 years ago
so how do you propose we prevent this ?

When a dog attacks a kid and leaves that kid fearing dogs the rest of their lives, the dog is put down.  We should start doing the same with pedophiles.  That will begin to put an end to it.

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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2.2.1  Phoenyx13  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2    9 years ago
When a dog attacks a kid and leaves that kid fearing dogs the rest of their lives, the dog is put down.  We should start doing the same with pedophiles.  That will begin to put an end to it.

that's definitely a solution - very harsh and i'm not sure its constitutional but its a solution 

 
 
 
Sunshine
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2.2.2  Sunshine  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2    9 years ago
That will begin to put an end to it.

wouldn't be a repeat offender.  when are they going to keep pedophiles in jail for life?

if it was my child...well I can't say what I would do.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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2.2.3  arkpdx  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2    9 years ago

Works for me!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Phoenyx13 @2.2.1    9 years ago
very harsh

Ask the parent or the child if it's harsh.  I'm pretty sure they won't say it's harsh.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sunshine @2.2.2    9 years ago
when are they going to keep pedophiles in jail for life?

The problem is, if they are kept in jail for life, WE are paying for it.  Not something I want my money going to.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to    9 years ago
but it's an indisputable fact that the death penalty costs millions of dollars more than life in prison

That cost can and should be cut to about $450 for the first death row inmate and about $1 for all there after.  

 
 
 
Sunshine
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2.2.11  Sunshine  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.10    9 years ago

is there somewhere anyone didn't say he was a pedophile?  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.14  Trout Giggles  replied to    9 years ago

I agree that the problem is in the mind, but I disagree on the treatment.

Do they still do lobotomies these days?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.15  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to    9 years ago

I know it's between their ears.  I still stand by my statement.

 
 
 
epistte
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2.2.16  epistte  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2    9 years ago
When a dog attacks a kid and leaves that kid fearing dogs the rest of their lives, the dog is put down.

Being a pedo' isnt a capital crime. Most murders  and no rapes are capital crimes either. 

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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2.2.17  Phoenyx13  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.4    9 years ago
Ask the parent or the child if it's harsh.  I'm pretty sure they won't say it's harsh.

oh i'm quite sure they wouldn't think its harsh - i probably wouldn't either if i was that parent. should your feelings (or anyone else's) supersede secular law ?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.18  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  epistte @2.2.16    9 years ago

Seems you are about protecting the offender.  I'm not.  Even the most hardened criminals in prison won't tolerate a pedophile and neither will I.

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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2.2.19  Phoenyx13  replied to    9 years ago
And I agree with him. Pedophiles deserve death. Rapists deserve castration, life in prison or death. But we damn well better be sure they're guilty.

and that's where i see slight problems - we have to make absolute 100% sure they are guilty... we haven't done a fantastic job of that in the past, thankfully we are making better strides but we are still finding cases that were ruled incorrectly due to new evidence years later. Now, i agree on a personal level that they shouldn't be in society anymore etc, but i won't state my feelings should be secular law. we have laws in place for a reason, irregardless of our feelings on the matter.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.20  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Phoenyx13 @2.2.17    9 years ago
should your feelings (or anyone else's) supersede secular law ?

That's the nice thing.  The law can be changed.  How many repeat offenders are there that have been released?  Quite a lot.

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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2.2.21  Phoenyx13  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.20    9 years ago
That's the nice thing.  The law can be changed.  How many repeat offenders are there that have been released?  Quite a lot.

yes they can be changed and sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. I think there should be a middle or something.. i'm not exactly sure how it would work. I do think things should be very harsh for repeat offenders - but then again that's my personal feelings on the matter. I wouldn't know how to balance it out with secular law.

 
 
 
epistte
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2.2.22  epistte  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.18    9 years ago
Even the most hardened criminals in prison won't tolerate a pedophile and neither will I.

The death penalty doesn't apply in the vast majority of criminal cases. We cannot let our bloodlust for revenge overtake the justice system or we become a nation of savages. 

We need to do more to rehabilitate all criminals instead of tossing them in a cage and let the primal instincts take over. Those are the same primal instincts that got them into prison.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.23  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.10    9 years ago
pedophile and not a transgender?

Please tell me you are not trying to convince us that a transgender cannot be a pedophile.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.24  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  epistte @2.2.22    9 years ago
We cannot let our bloodlust for revenge overtake the justice system or we become a nation of savages.

It's ridding the world of a predatory parasite.  Plain and simple

 
 
 
epistte
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2.2.25  epistte  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.24    9 years ago
It's ridding the world of a predatory parasite.

That is not how the justice system works in the US.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.28  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  epistte @2.2.25    9 years ago
That is not how the justice system works in the US.

The system doesn't condone illegals crossing the border either but here we are.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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2.2.29  arkpdx  replied to    9 years ago

Pedos cannot be rehabilitated. It's a sexual attraction. Unless you think Gays and Trannies can be rehabilitated?

That is going to be the next group that the left is houng to try to legitimize. You know, they will say pedophilia is genetic and just another sexual orientation and natural so it it Ok. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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2.2.30  arkpdx  replied to  arkpdx @2.2.29    9 years ago

houng =going 

I wish things would stop happening whe i make comments. An edit function would be nice also. 

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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2.2.34  Phoenyx13  replied to    9 years ago
No, they just need to be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. A 1% error isn't enough to halt the mass hangings. Nor is a rate of error in convictions justification to abolish prisons.

that is true. I'm just not sure we have perfected our system enough to be sure its beyond a reasonable doubt in some cases - thusly why some convictions from years ago are overturned due to new evidence or from the way the case was handled etc. just my opinion.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Phoenyx13 @2    9 years ago
which laws would we have to pass to make criminals obey them and not commit crimes in public bathrooms ?

Well if it were the NRA they would say that criminals are going to break the law regardless of what laws you pass so there's no point in banning anything. And what this creep allegedly did is already illegal and had nothing to do with being "allowed" in the girls restroom. Assault is assault regardless of gender identity. There have been women arrested for assaulting young girls in girls bathrooms. So a transgender ban on bathrooms does nothing to stop perverted criminals. This creep allegedly approached this girl outside the bathroom as it says "Martinez allegedly invited the young girl into the bathroom with him". This had nothing to do with him supposedly being transgender and everything to do with him being a sexual predator.

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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2.3.2  Phoenyx13  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.3    9 years ago
Well if it were the NRA they would say that criminals are going to break the law regardless of what laws you pass so there's no point in banning anything. And what this creep allegedly did is already illegal and had nothing to do with being "allowed" in the girls restroom. Assault is assault regardless of gender identity. There have been women arrested for assaulting young girls in girls bathrooms. So a transgender ban on bathrooms does nothing to stop perverted criminals. This creep allegedly approached this girl outside the bathroom as it says "Martinez allegedly invited the young girl into the bathroom with him". This had nothing to do with him supposedly being transgender and everything to do with him being a sexual predator.

EXACTLY ! when it comes to "gun control" and gun laws then the popular argument for the conservative minded is "well criminals don't obey laws so its pointless" yet when it comes to transgendered individuals all they want to do is pass laws to prevent criminal activity -- which directly contradicts their earlier viewpoint. Either laws prevent crime or they don't - can't have it both ways. if they don't prevent crimes then why pass the laws to prevent criminals from going into the bathroom (regardless of their gender identity) ? those criminals will still go in anyway, they don't care about laws. we already have laws regarding punishment for crimes in public bathrooms.

 
 
 
JBB
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8  JBB    9 years ago

Signs do not stop sexual predators. Considering 99% of sexual predators are men this really isn't an issue.

Considering 86% of sexual predators are male and 13.99% are female it is not surprising 0.01% might identify as transgender. That percentage is insignificant as to stupid bathroom debates. We long had "Women Only" ladies rooms that never stopped a determined predator. If we really want to stop sexual predation in bathrooms start by busting all the supposedly straigt mostly married men who hang out in the public restrooms in malls, rest areas and parks and other public restrooms. Period. It is a short distance from the men's rooms to the ladys rooms and no gender sign ever stopped a rapist. If that were the case we would not have a problem...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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10  Hal A. Lujah    9 years ago

Here’s the depth of thinking of a conservative mind:  if we ban transgenders from the bathrooms they identify with, the ones that are looking to rape women won’t go in there.  Simple thoughts for simpletons.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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14  Skrekk    9 years ago

If this person is transgender and they're guilty of the pedophilia charges that will be the first actual case in the US I've ever heard of.

 
 
 
Dulay
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15  Dulay    9 years ago

I find it very interesting that the vast majority of the comments here make the kneejerk assumption that this alleged assault happened in a public bathroom. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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15.1  Skrekk  replied to  Dulay @15    9 years ago

Very good point.   Neither of the local articles indicate that it was a public restroom.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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16  Skrekk    9 years ago

I wonder if this accused rapist is any relation to this evangelical pastor?

A Rush County pastor, accused of molesting three young members of his congregation. 72-year-old Garry Evans, pastor of Baptist Temple in Rushville, faces three counts of child molesting, four counts of sexual battery, and five counts of child solicitation. Court documents show that an investigation into Evans began September 4, when a three-year-old girl reported an encounter with Evans to the police.

The girl told investigators that Evans lured her into his office with the promise of candy, then pulled his pants down and made her touch his genitals. He then told her not to tell anyone what happened. After the investigation into Evans’ behavior began in late September, another mother brought her five- and seven-year-old daughters to police. Both girls told investigators that Evans had forced his hands down their pants when they were alone with him in his office. Police say there may be several other victims.

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Rushville Police Chief Craig Tucker said a woman also came forward and said she had been molested by Evans decades ago, in a different community. That woman helped police pursue the new cases, but it is unclear if charges can be sought in hers.

Evans is charged with three counts of child molestation, four counts of sexual battery and five counts of child solicitation. His initial hearing was Thursday afternoon and he is out on bond. His next court date is scheduled for November 28.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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18  It Is ME    9 years ago

Kennedy put a man on the moon.

Obama put a man in the Ladies room.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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18.1  Skrekk  replied to  It Is ME @18    9 years ago

Very revealing that Kennedy supported civil rights but you don't.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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18.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  Skrekk @18.1    9 years ago

Kennedy didn't put a man in the ladies room.

 
 

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