First openly transgender state legislator elected in Virginia
Here's a blow to the GOP.
Virginia House of Delegates candidate Danica Roem (D) has defeated longtime Del. Robert Marshall (R), becoming Virginia's first openly transgender elected official and one of just few in the nation, according to The Washington Post.
"Danica will bring a reporter's eye to Richmond, and we eagerly anticipate her results-oriented approach to deliver for her constituents in the 13th," Virginia House Democratic Caucus Leader David J. Toscano and Caucus Chair Charniele Herring said in a statement.
"As a journalist, Danica Roem has covered the issues critical to Virginians and listened to a wide range of perspectives. During her campaign, Danica expanded this approach by listening to area residents' concerns and making them integral to her own policy platform," they added.
LGBTQ advocates hailed the victory on Tuesday evening, with the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) calling it "a clear warning to anti-equality lawmakers across the country."
"HRC was proud to mobilize voters to support Danica Roem's trailblazing candidacy, and we look forward to working with her to help continue moving equality forward in Virginia," HRC president Chad Griffin said in a statement.
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This is a wonderful thing to happen in a state and, district that likes to vote on bathroom laws.
A black trans woman won in Minneapolis with 73% of the vote against 3 other candidates for the same city council seat.
Good for her.
Then at least get the noun right, SHE is representing the people of HER district.
The proper pronoun is she. Does the golden rule apply to you?
Her gender identity and not her DNA defines who she is. The fact of her transition is proof. Do you call people who are intersexed it or freak?
That's because you don't have any respect for transgender folks.
Taunting transsexuals by playing along with their delusion is showing respect?
Of course and that includes brain structure. So while that's not visible to your ilk it is what makes her a transgender woman.
If you have no issues with it, why won't you refer to her by the gender she has chosen?
Poor Marmaduke. I hope your Jesus will forgive you for your lack of tolerance. I'm guessing that you've never seen any of the CATF plays - if you are actually a Shepherd student, I challenge you to see one with me next July.
So you do have issues with it.
Here's another one.....the very first transgender man elected to public office in the US and it also happens to be to the Minneapolis city council. Apparently they have some kind of ranked instant runoff ballot structure , thus it took a bit for the result to be reported.
Excellent find.
congratulations to Danica Roem !
maybe now we can stop worrying about crafting laws regulating the genitals in a public restroom ?
It can pretend to be a woman all it wants, but we know it isn't.
And you can pretend that she didn't win, but we all know she did.
She???
Give it a DNA test and I'm pretty sure it will be proven beyond all doubt to be a HE.
If you can't add anything except bigotry, then go somewhere else and, post.
Scientific fact is bigotry to you?
Sorry you feel that way about reality.
Unless the parts have actually been changed!
E.A so one has a VW and takes the Insignia from a Rolls-Royce, and places them on the VW, what does one now have?
It's still a VW, the plate means nothing, it's like the dress. Put the Rolls engine and tranny in the VW and it's more of a Rolls.
E.A so you think one can fit a RR Motor on a VW?
And do you think that taking a Penis off, and adding a Vaginal " Slit " makes then " working parts?" if NOT, what does one now have?
Well, I've never actually tried out the modified parts, [at least I don't THINK I have!] so I can't really comment on their functionality. Perhaps you have some insights to offer?
E.A Sure,, we are on the INTERNET after all, so why not do a search and see how " Workable " those Interchanged parts are and let us KNOW so we will NOT be duped ... ok? Many thanks :-)
E.A LOLO a " Non Working Tranny ! At that so two working units are now two " dead ends " :-)
Well, that'll just be someone's opinion. I figure you have to take a test drive to really know for sure!
E.A LOL you know what a Psychologist will classify that as?
test drive to really know for sure!
Test " drive " an immovable Object Loaded with Pathogens...?
END
Schadenfreude is sweet.
How many times do people need to be told that person's DNA does not determine their gender identity?
Unlike cars, humans have a gender identity that can be different from their physical gender. Why do you care about another person's sexuality?
Somebody can "identify" as the Queen of England or Napolean Bonepart.
It doesn't make it so. Delusional people need to be treated, not indulged.
Actually yes, all the parts work, just like in the sex they've been assigned to, except that Male to Female changes can't become pregnant.
A better comparison would be putting the computer of a Rolls into the VW.....it still knows it's a Rolls regardless of what kind of bumper or dipstick the car came with, but it just doesn't drive as well until some of the mechanical parts get swapped out.
I love how proud you are of your hostility towards trans folks. You must be one of those True Christians I keep hearing about.
E.A I wonder when is a Lie a Lie and when is it Propaganda ? " all the parts work, just like in the sex they've been assigned to, except that " Is that like saying Yes the VW is now a " working RR Except " :-)
Trans people aren't delusional. They are not identifying as a different person. There is scientific proof of their gender identity is incongruent with their physical DNA.
Those of us who understand psychology read your insults quite clearly. You feel threatened by her so you feel the need to insult her so as to reinforce your perceived social status.
Tell that to Jung, Milgrim, Skinner, and Dunning-Kruger. You are focused on the biological difference but gender identity differences are in the brain.
You don't see someone's DNA when they walk by you. You see the gender that they project, their secondary gender characteristics and how they react.
What is it about gender identity that is so deficit for you to understand. Our DNA is not determined by our DNA but you cannot grasp that concept, or maybe you are unwilling to do so because what it would mean for you.
Take the hint. When you are in a hole and you want to get out. The first step is to stop digging deeper.
it must be a bummer that she can't be controlled by someone else's perception of her gender identity
No, it's a bummer he can't change his DNA from XY chromosomes to XX.
He will always be a fake woman and a transvestite.
She isn't trying to change her DNA - her DNA isn't being discussed when we refer to her as a transgendered woman
She is a transgendered woman.
You know this, how?
Was there a point to this statement ? She is a transgender woman regardless of her body parts since we are discussing gender. You may try to be insulting and degrading by calling her a "him" but it's nothing more than a temper tantrum since she's still a transgender woman.
Sounds like you haven't talked to your LGBT advocate cousin yet since you're still trying to demean and denigrate trans folks.
That reveals a rather profound insecurity on your part.
Maybe you need to ask your LGBT advocate cousin what misgendering means and how demeaning and harmful it is? Or are you afraid to reveal to her just how you feel about transgender folks? Based on your comments your real views are no different from those of Bob Marshall.
Well you definitely haven't figured out the "No h8" part yet. Maybe you should ask your Facebook "friend" to explain how purposely misgendering trans folks drives up the suicide rate?
In any event your hostile intent is clear. Skirting the CoC [ph]
You should go read your cousins recent HuffPo article about a Trans Teen suing the Catholic church. She seems to disagree with your position.
BTW, does she know that you use her as a beard for posting transphobia?
You should go read your cousins recent HuffPo article about a Trans Teen suing the Catholic church. She seems to disagree with your position.
BTW, does she know that you use her as a beard for posting transphobia?
Proof?
Sounds more like you're dishonest with her and haven't revealed your hostility towards trans folks. Your ilk is exactly the type she'd condemn.
E.A Not if Paedophiles Convince them Otherwise... so it seems to me that some that have mental disorders think that Being natural " is a hazard to their existence..!
Maybe you should ask your cousin why she said this in an article she wrote which condemned the Trump regime's withdrawal of Obama's Title IX guidance:
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Apparently she understands something you don't.
This study shows that transgender youth whose parents reject their gender identity are 13 times more likely to attempt suicide than transgender youth who are supported by their parents. Strange that you didn't care enough to look that up yourself.
Sounds like you need to read and comprehend the full report rather than cherry picking irrelevant quotes.
However I doubt even that would matter since you've already expressed your intent to demean and stigmatize transgender folks.
Be sure to post that to your "cousin's" FB page. Let her know exactly how you feel about trans folks.
LOL.
No. You've obviously confused gender dysphoria with being transgender. The two aren't the same thing, and only a minority of transgender or cisgender folks ever experience gender dysphoria.
Funny that you don't even understand the basic terminology much less comprehend the studies you cite.
Medical professionals seem to disagree with you - that must be a bummer for you
LOL if that statement was not erroneous - i might take it seriously.
it isn't insulting nor degrading to call a transgender man or a cisgender man - a man. I'm not sure why you thought it would be. It is insulting and degrading to call a transgender woman or a cisgender woman - a man. Its really simple. There's no fit throwing here, i'm not that sensitive (as i've stated previously) - remember ?
I didn't make up anything. Perhaps you need to expand your vocabulary, especially since it's a label you ascribe to.
Go look at the definition. Your posts are transphobic.
No one is DEMANDING that you do anything. If you insist on being overtly disrespectful you should expect to be called out for your lack of comity.
You've proven that comity is too much to ask of you.
Your cousin is one of those you decry as a 'Far Left keyboard' warrior. While SHE may know YOUR mind, I'd posit the YOU know little to NOTHING of HERS.
It's a QUOTE from the headline that your cousin wrote. Seems to bolster my above posit.
Here's an article about this issue from your cousin's site:
Do tell. Post a link to a scientific study that supports your posit.
Sorry your study fails to prove your argument. Lack of parental support for anyone is likely to have the same or similar results, don't you think? Also the study fails to mention how the lack of support of John Q Public has any effect at all.
Transgendered and transvestite are very different. You should learn what that important difference is.
In other words a majority of children who experience gender dysphoria grow out of it, but none of the studies you cited claim that any of those kids were transgender. In fact all kinds of people can experience gender dysphoria which is why it helps to get specialists involved early on to distinguish kids who might be trans from kids who are merely going through a gender dysphoric phase. Transgender kids don't "grow out of it", thus your rant about 90% is irrelevant since you're comparing apples to truck axles.
There is no difference. A guy in drag is a guy in drag.
Here ya go.
One last thing for you HOC
why would you display to the world that you don't understand what the term cisgender means ? that makes no sense, but you are free to post what you wish. i suggest you look it up, Google is available to all with internet access
Also, we are talking about Gender and not Biological Sex - when you figure that out, please get back to me
i don't mind watching people dig holes... but you've dug so far you are out of sight
who's talking about biological makeup ? you seem confused. we are discussing Gender - its something different (or else we'd just call it biological makeup instead of gender right ?)
Ummmm.....the biological makeup of her brain is what makes her a transgender woman. Funny that you don't get that but I suspect your Bronze-age cult just has rather primitive Bronze-age notions about biology and gender.....and doesn't even understand what the brain is or does.
By the way doesn't your cult claim that bats are birds?
Hippo' of Cos has been relegated to personal attacks because he cannot discuss the situation in a rational manner.
Why do you continue to ignore neurology?
Your ignorance of human sexuality is glaringly obvious. Transvestites are CIS and as such do not feel the need to transition, unlike transgender people.
ah, so you decided to display to everyone that you lack empathy ? that seems a bit odd to me, but you are free to post what you wish. Try this: imagine claiming you are a man, but everyone referring to you as a woman and stating they don't give a "fuck" if you insist you are a man or not and don't care about calling you a woman since you are not a man anyway in their eyes because they expect to control you and expect you to live by their definition of gender whether it's a right or wrong definition --- maybe then you'll understand ?
we know, it frightens a lot of people when others don't conform to their definitions in life and they can no longer control them - but it'll be ok
try looking at my posting history with this individual when i first got here - its interesting to see how sensitive some people can be
You claimed that you are an INTJ personality in the thread about Meyers-Briggs personality types, but I am not seeing a rational and objective argument.
i don't think you meant to reply to me since i never posted on that particular thread you are referring to. In fact, i haven't taken the Meyers-Briggs personality types test either - do some research on the history of that test, its quite surprising
I was trying to reply to Hippo' of Cos. I'm sorry about that.
Soooo, why are you posting on here?
That has always happened with him, he tries to force his opinion on others and, when they don't accept it, he goes off like a North Korean missile.
Hippo of Cops always says that he wants trans people to get the help that they need for depression but he never says what he help wants them to get. It is obvious that he doesn't understand what the transgendered standards of care are. It is also obvious that he doesn't understand psychology.
Your argument fails again. You are born with your gender identity but not with your career. You are talking about a subject that you do not understand, so your emotional beliefs are constructing your arguments.
A person's gender identity (their male or female sense of self) is not the same as their DNA. If our gender identity was the same as our DNA then trans people would not exist, but obviously, trans people do exist.
Trans children don't stop being trans' when they mature. If they grew out of it then they were never transgendered to begin with.
Actually it is the medical field that uses it, the doctor who started using it is from Germany, you can find out about it here.
The bolded part is where you make your mistake a transgender male or, female doesn't just decide one day that they aren't the sex that they were born to look like, they have felt that way from the moment that they could think.
E.A But, they DO and also they than take steps to take others in the same direction.
So the question remains in that the " Right Direction " or is it the path to extinction?
ah look, the perfect example highlighting your ignorance on the topic of transgendered individuals
job <> gender. biological sex and gender are two different things as well (or we wouldn't name them gender roles, we'd name them biological sex roles, get it yet ?). educate yourself on gender identity and how its different than biological sex, thanks
another example - look, we get it, you are confused and don't understand gender identity nor its difference from biological sex so instead of exclaiming it to everyone, you should probably just educate yourself and do some research on the topic
we aren't discussing your biological makeup, nor your DNA, nor your chromosomes - we are discussing Gender Identity. let me know when you do some more research and figure it out (then you may understand why your arguments aren't logical and keep failing constantly)
its obvious you simply gave a "fuck" enough to comment on this article and felt the need to exclaim to everyone who doesn't care that you don't give a "fuck". now that you've completed your attention-getting mission, you are welcome to fade into obscurity. I normally just don't even comment on articles that i don't give a "fuck" about, but i guess i'm different than most people and don't need the constant attention of telling everyone that i don't give a "fuck".
Do you think Transgenderism only started in the last few years? That would be a mistake to think that, Transgender people have existed all through out our history, it's only been in the last one hundred years that anything could be done about it medically and, that it was considered something other than, "Uncle Bob is slightly nuts."
E.A Right ON!!
So like a Virus when it is in less then 1% the Immune system does not even react to it, but when it gets over 4% what do you think that CD4 T Cells would do, and if they do not, then see what Apoptosis does, so do you now get the " drift "?
So then, when they " Join into a Community and demand more and more " what would the Immune system do?
You have really gone off the deep end here. bye bye.
E.A Interesting so a Factual Statement backed up with Science and Medical DATA is " off the deep end " that Screams so much, many thanks :-)
Transgender isn't a virus, that is what I mean when i say you are going off the deep end. You sound as if you are the white blood cells and, you want to get rid of all Transgenders.
No, they do not. They merely say that they are transgendered when they begin to seek treatment. They were n born trans but since everybody is assumed to be CIS, you didn't know they were transgendered until they said something.
Nobody can make someone transgendered. You are either born transgendered or you arent. It is just that simple.
All trans people are the product of heterosexual sex, and yet they are still being born because it is a very natural and even predictable occurrence for 1-2% of the population.
The human race is not going to become exist because trans people or gay people exist. That idea is weapons grade stupidity.
I'm not making words up. These are facts that have been proven many times by medical science. Trans people have existed since before the Egyptian and Greek civilization.
Do you have an MS or Ph.D. in psychology or an M.D.?
Your idea of what common sense is ignorant of medical facts. I can explain the basics of human sexuality but unless you choose to do so nobody can force you to think. You seem to feel threated by the existence of transgendered people so you have built an emotional wall. Why are trans people so threatening to your beliefs?
Do you know more than the Mayo Clinic or Kinsey Institute for sex, gender and reproduction research?
The biological gender of the person's physical body does not determine a person's gender identity. That fact is why transgendered people exist, but something about that idea bothers you. The body does not control the mind. Instead, the mind and the brain controls the body so the gender identity of the brain is more important than the physical gender of the body. This is a basic concept of psychology, which it appears that you don't understand.
You can try to ignore reality but you are the one with a problem because of your actions.
Facebook now has a total of 56 gender options. Ahhh the age of liberalism confronted with Donald Trump...As the Chinese say "May you live in interesting times"
My option.....male or female.
biological sex - not the topic
genetics - not the topic
absolutely untrue, which is why i keep stating you should educate yourself - so far you are displaying you have no knowledge about the topic which is Gender Identity and not biological sex nor DNA. Care to try again ?
nope, i just can't really have this discussion with you if you are under the impression that race = gender, it just further displays your lack of knowledge on Gender Identity by making such erroneous, illogical comparisons. do some research and you may find out why you are wrong from the beginning of your "logical argument".
not really the topic - since its been established that gender and biological sex are two different things (unless you are under the impression that we have two completely different names and two completely different studies for the exact same thing ?) please tell everyone what Gender Identity is. thanks
LOL they change all the time ? LOL i love peering into the conservative conspiracy ridden mind, its hilarious. everyone else is crazy except you right ? LOL this isn't really hard at all, Gender Identity is different than biological sex and the two don't always align. Got it ? would you like to regroup and try a new strategy since this approach of conflating biological sex and gender identity isn't working for you ? Biology 101 doesn't even enter into this conversation - it seems to be the point you are missing and its quite amusing.
Please tell everyone what Gender Identity is - thanks
there is so much irony in this statement coming from someone who believes in an unverified mystical entity that can do magic
Human sexuality 101,
Sex is a physical act of reproduction.
Gender is the male or female characteristics of the person.
So easy and obvious, ah the world we knew before progressives ruled!
I truly love the fact that a really dumb bigot like Bob Marshall lost to a transgender woman. That's a fitting end to his vile career as a hate monger.
It's Poetic justice.
What's this we shit (Tonto)? Don't include me in your "we" group.
Why this NEED by Liberal types to ALWAYS label (transgender, gay ....etc... WINS) when it satisfies their NEEDS, yet they chastise others for labeling......Like the using of the words "ISLAMIC TERRORIST" !!
What a bunch of Fucking Hypocrites Liberal types are.
Why not just say "candidate Danica Roem (D) wins" !
Not much of a story if one puts it that way ?
It's important to downplay the successes of disfavored minorities, right?
Especially when the dumb bigot who lost is a real bible-babbling moron.
Why "PLAY" them at all.
You mean why celebrate when a disfavored minority beats a really dumb bigot?
Except for the 2016 election it seems that the good guys have been winning lately in Virginia, like when McAuliffe beat Kooky Nelli in 2013.
Seems using "Disfavored" and "Dumb Bigot" in the same sentence, is a contradiction to the point you are "TRYING" to make.
Aren't you the one who wants special rights for yourself which you want denied to LGBT folks? That sounds rather greedy and self-centered, not to mention theocratic given the Christian sharia basis of your intent.
I'm the one who supports treating all lawful persons equally and it's delightful to see traditionally marginalized groups in public office today. But I can see why you and Bob Marshall are whining so loudly about it.
Bob Marshall made both homosexuality and gender identity an issue in his political office.
And ?
My statement STILL stands !
An ironic comment given that you're the one who wants Jim Crow laws which give you special rights which you want denied to gays and same-sex couples. You clearly oppose equal protection of the law and think some lawful citizens should be treated differently from others based merely on who they are.
Actually I was referring to your desire to deny gay couples the same civil rights you enjoy, but it is rather revealing that you also want to dictate where transgender folks potty.
E.A Since " Body Fluids " ( Condoms at the Top ) and Scat and Urea are known to be of them, as Pathogen Vectors, what would any good pathologist recommend?
It is important because Bon Marshall made attacking the transgendered a cornerstone of his political ideas. Conservatives think that attacking trans people is an easy political target but now they are learning differently.
1) So, what if he/she wakes up one morning and decides he/she wants to identify as Republican? Will that be tolerated?
2) How is this "a blow" to Republicans? Elect who you like. It's not going to impact Republicans.
It does show that the state is changing for the better and discarding its bigoted bible-babbling and confederate conservative roots.
Rural Virginia is still confederate.
More like 1920.
How will this make it better? Does being trans change the way you govern?
You mean by electing a disfavored minority and expelling a really dumb bible-babbling bigot? Too bad not all of the confederate states are capable of that yet.
She isn't a homophobe who wants to enforce her conservative religious views on others.
This is most excellent:
Another cool thing is that Danica Roem now represents part of Loudoun County which contains the school district which tried to harm transgender kids.
Seems VA's 13 district has gone from one extreme to the other.
I did not like Bob Marshall
Bruce Jenner is still Bruce pretending to be a female. They are called female impersonators.
Transgender and female impersonators are not the same. I suggest that you learn what that critical difference is.
Why are you trying to have a discussion of a subject that you don't understand basic terminology?
I have told you multiple times before that a person's DNA does not always determine the person's gender identity The body may be male but their psychological sense of self is not male. Do you understand the ramifications of that idea?
Trans people are born in a body with the wrong physical gender for their gender identity. A person's psychological gender identity can't be changed so medical science changes the body as much as possible to match their gender identity.
Caitlyn Jenner is a female born with the wrong gendered physical body.
The fact that female impersonators are not transgendered escapes you. They are often gay males or even heterosexual who dress in drag for the enjoyment of doing so. They have more in common with transvestites than they do transgendered women.
There is absolutely NO scientific evidence that supports that conclusion. It's amazing that ignorant liberals believe in such drivel. Bruce Jenner is a confused male pretending to be a woman. Still has the original equipment. Wants to stay in intact in case he changes his mind. Everyone knows that. If he had the "operation" I would be more understanding. But I guess the idea scares him, at his advanced age.
Can we leave the partisan attacks out of this conversation?
If Caitlyn Jenner is transgender then she is born with a body that is incongruent to her gender identity. That is what gender identity is. Just because she may not have the final surgery doesn't mean that she isn't transgendered. Her penis would not function because of the medication that trans women take.
Lesbian trans' often have the reconstruction surgery. I know of a very crude joke about that but I won't post it.
E.A Interesting that they have a " Faith and yet prove False to its Power " they all claim to be staunch evolutionist, and when it does not suit them, they Ditch that Faith and wallow for anything that suits then in the Sewer or lower .
WHUT the..............?
Nobody is ignoring evolution. Understanding evolution is not a faith. It is an objective fact. You dont understand evolution or human sexuality.