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The Latest: Dems pullout of WH meeting after Trump's tweet

  

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Via:  johnrussell  •  9 years ago  •  30 comments

The Latest: Dems pullout of WH meeting after Trump's tweet

Associated Press:
The Latest: Dems pullout of WH meeting after Trump's tweet — The Latest on President Trump's discussions with lawmakers on taxes and the budget (all times local): — Top Democratic leaders in Congress have abruptly pulled out of a planned meeting with President Donald Trump after he attacked them on Twitter.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/latest-trump-deal-spending-51432130


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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1  seeder  JohnRussell    9 years ago

Says Trump: "I don't see a deal!"

Trump says Democrats "want illegal immigrants flooding into our Country unchecked, are weak on Crime and want to substantially RAISE Taxes."

Top Democratic leaders in Congress have abruptly pulled out of a planned meeting with President Donald Trump after he attacked them on Twitter.

Trump tweeted early Tuesday that "I don't see a deal!" with Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer and top House Democrat Nancy Pelosi.

Schumer and Pelosi are shooting back with a statement asking for talks with top GOP leaders in Congress.

They said, "given that the president doesn't see a deal between Democrats and the White House, we believe the best path forward is to continue negotiating with our Republican counterparts in Congress instead."

Congress faces a Dec. 8 deadline to pass stopgap legislation to keep the government open.

They added, "we don't have any time to waste."

I hope Trump keeps all this up. He will get nothing done, which is good for America.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
2  Colour Me Free    9 years ago

Interesting .. I was just reading this:

A meeting of five weakened American leaders

When President Trump meets at 3:00 pm ET with Ryan, Pelosi, McConnell and Schumer, you could argue that all five leaders are in a weakened state — for different reasons.

Trump’s job approval rating is in the 30s, and he   stepped in another controversy yesterday (more on that below); Ryan’s reputation as a policy wonk and deficit hawk has taken a hit with the tax plan; progressives criticized Pelosi’s performance on “Meet the Press”; Trump’s open warfare with McConnell has hurt the GOP leader; and Schumer might be in the best shape of all, but that isn’t saying much.

I wonder how much the tweet actually had to do with the cancellation?  Seems to me that if there is NO time to waste, then why waste time talking to the media about the wasting of time?  Stop pouting and go to the meeting - be the  leaders that they claim to be.

'We' have already witnessed the pissing up a rope contest (Trump seems to always win that one)   Be the leaders that they claim to be, instead of being thin skinned (as Trump is accused of being) .......... roll up the sleeves, get to work.  Show Trump he is wrong!  I wanted the same thing to happen during Obama's tenure .. stop the partisan BS and get to work for the betterment of the Nation, but it never happened!  

Congress has turned into a playground.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Colour Me Free @2    9 years ago

There's no point meeting with Trump.  He'll lie the whole time and then back-stab the whole process.  Trump's a waste of time and protoplasm. 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
2.1.1  Colour Me Free  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @2.1    9 years ago

Yeah okay... you prob would know better than I would about all that .. just seems doable to me - just keep pushing back (not in the press) but by being in front of him and speaking ones mind.

By pulling out of the meeting and going to the press .. the Presidents childish behavior wins - (D) / (R)'s cannot beat/guilt/shame him in the press.  Take him on face to face .... ya might get lied to .. but perhaps it will turn out like the first time Trump sided with the (D)'s keeping the gov open..

When I was in High School and starting college in the mid 80's ..................... Presidents .. members of Congress got out of DC and spent time at Camp David - hashed things out one on one, compromised / came to understandings that lead to agreements .. if those walls could only talk ...

Now 24/7 news cycles is what communicates for each party - they do not put in the same kind of work it takes to compromise and work together....  [my opinion]

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.1.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.1    9 years ago

This is not the 1980s and Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan (which is not saying I thought Reagan was any kind of peach but just how horrible Trump is by comparison).  The R party has swung so far to the right that it isn't so much a political party but a collection of rabid animals with myriad petty identity grievances ripe for the plucking by a demagogue like Trump and the extreme rightwing political machine that supports him.  Furthermore, the "moral majority" (which like the Holy Roman Empire which was neither holy, Roman nor an empire is neither moral nor the majority) has finally revealed how it will suffer even the worst criminal types to represent them in Congress and the White House.  

But getting back to the specific with Trump, who claims he can make any deal, isn't that right?  What deal maker tweets that he sees no chance of a deal BEFORE he's about to meet with the people who expect him to deal?  And I'm not sure you saw his little attempt to embarrass the Dems with his little empty chair skit but it made him look pathetic and small, just as he is.  I don't think the Dems lost anything by not going.  If anything they're getting pretty great feedback from their constituents for it and that will pay off politically for them.  Both sides will be  jockeying for that for the next year.  

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
2.1.3  Colour Me Free  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @2.1.2    9 years ago
This is not the 1980s and Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan

Very good point .. my comment had nothing to do with who was in office - I actually became politically aware during the Carter administration .. was not a fan of Reagan either.  I was speaking to the skill sets that more modern Presidents lack .... the partisanship is a fuck'd up mess, politics is now my way or the highway from both sides.

Carter to a point, Reagan and Clinton had a skill set, an ability to communication - that even a great orator such as former President Obama did not possess!

As to the rest of what you stated ... perhaps I am misunderstanding, but it comes down to hurt feelings - a self proclaimed great deal maker saying I do not see a deal being made ... made the leadership of the Democrat party take their ball and whine whine whine to the press all the way home ................... the President is a jerk (no doubt about it) so why continue to give into his jerk'ness by bowing out of what should be a fight?

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.1.4  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.3    9 years ago
perhaps I am misunderstanding,

I'd say more like misinterpreting or considering just the Republican representation of it.  It was Trump who pulled a pout about Dems not showing up.  The Dems said they'd be happy to discuss things with McConnell and Ryan since Trump clearly indicated that talking to him would be a waste of their time.  From my liberal point of view it was Schumer and Pelosi telling Trump they're not going to be jerked around in his little game.  I think it worked very well for democrats who want to see their representatives in Congress assert themselves.  I saw nothing at all that  "hurt feelings"  were the reaction by them.  

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
2.1.5  Colour Me Free  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @2.1.4    9 years ago
misinterpreting

Would not be the first time... even if I am, I am not looking at current events from any political party view .. I am looking at it as a citizen of the United States that is disheartened by the lack of communication and compromise in politics.  I do not care which side is pouting - these are adults that have been elected as representatives and law makers ... time to get to work - 'we' have been going through this extreme partisanship for too long!

As I said .. Congress has turned into a playground .. private sector fires the offenders .. Congress needs a committee to tell them if a behavior is inappropriate! 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3  Tacos!    9 years ago

And yet nothing is stopping Democrats from meeting with Trump but the Democrats themselves. The White House has already said they are still invited to meet with the president.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
3.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Tacos! @3    9 years ago

So they can just listen to his bullshit again?  Waste of time.  They're talking with Ryan and McConnell and even that's probably pointless since no republican can be trusted for anything. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @3.1    9 years ago
So they can just listen to his bullshit again?

So they can make an argument and maybe get something they want. It has worked before, hasn't it?

 
 
 
Willjay9
Freshman Silent
3.2  Willjay9  replied to  Tacos! @3    9 years ago
The White House has already said they are still invited to meet with the president.

What part of "I don't see a deal" BEFORE a meeting has taken place, gives you the impression that Trump is in any way interested in what Democrats have to say?

This is nothing but another Trump photo-op....nothing more nothing less! Pelosi and Reid fell for it the first time and Trump showed them his true colors!

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3.2.1  Tacos!  replied to  Willjay9 @3.2    9 years ago
What part of "I don't see a deal" BEFORE a meeting has taken place, gives you the impression that Trump is in any way interested in what Democrats have to say?

Let me see if I have this right. You probably think that everything that comes out of Trump's mouth is not to be believed, right?

But you take this one Tweet as absolute truth?

Think about it.

 
 
 
Willjay9
Freshman Silent
3.2.2  Willjay9  replied to  Tacos! @3.2.1    9 years ago
But you take this one Tweet as absolute truth?

Well let's see.....I bet you believe that Schumer and Pelosi want "illegal immigrants flooding into our Country unchecked, are weak on Crime and want to substantially RAISE Taxes" don't you?

So if you would believe that part but not the part about him not contemplating a deal....what does that say about you?

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
3.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Tacos! @3    9 years ago
The White House has already said they are still invited to meet with the president.

Maybe if he wouldn't tweet ahead of time that he doesn't see any chance for a deal they might feel inclined to do so.  He botched this and he looked even more pathetic trying (and failing) to then further embarrass them.  Funny kind of "art of the deal" behavior, don't you think?  This is more like Trump throwing his feces at a canvas and his toadies calling it a masterpiece. It's definitely a piece of some kind.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3.3.1  Tacos!  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @3.3    9 years ago
Maybe if he wouldn't tweet ahead of time that he doesn't see any chance for a deal they might feel inclined to do so.

No. Come on, this is so high school. "Donny tweeted something I don't like, so I'm not going to his stupid party." It sure doesn't take much for these alleged champions of the people to give up, does it?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
4  Jeremy Retired in NC    9 years ago

Top Democratic leaders in Congress have abruptly pulled out of a planned meeting with President Donald Trump after he attacked them on Twitter.

And the Democrat temper tantrums continue.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
4.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    9 years ago
And the Democrat temper tantrums continue.

There's that backward, upside down world of yours again, Jeremy.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
4.2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @4.2    9 years ago

The article states the Democrats pulled out of the meeting because of a tweet.  Sounds like they are throwing another tantrum to me.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
4.2.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.2    9 years ago

Don't know.  Don't care.  But I have a feeling you are going to tell me who and how many times they did like it's some big achievement.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
4.2.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to    9 years ago

Did you miss where I said I don't care?  

 
 

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