Trump's UK visit may be postponed due to his support of fascist party and his bigotry
Donald Trump’s state visit to the UK could be delayed after the US President launched a direct attack on Theresa May for criticising his decision to retweet anti-Islamic hate videos. ...
The Home Secretary also pointed out that “dates have not yet been agreed” as she repeated the line from Mrs May’s official spokesman, telling MPs that the President was “wrong to retweet videos posted by far-Right group Britain First”. She said Mrs May would not back away from challenging Mr Trump when she needed to. “The Prime Minister will always have regular calls with the President and she has been explicit in criticising this tweet,” the Home Secretary said.
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It was true after the racist mob in Charlottesville three months ago. And it’s still true today: Donald J Trump quite literally sympathizes with fascists. He shares their worldview as easily as he shares their language and videos. He gives their voice and values the biggest platform in politics. He is a neo-fascist sympathizer in the mainstream of American politics, sitting at the heart of the West Wing and world power.
But don’t take my word for it. Listen to Jayda Fransen, the deputy leader of the far-right Britain First group. After President Trump shared three of Fransen’s anti-Muslim videos on Twitter on Wednesday morning, the extremist agitator could barely contain herself: “THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, DONALD TRUMP, HAS RETWEETED THREE OF DEPUTY LEADER JAYDA FRANSEN’S TWITTER VIDEOS! DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF HAS RETWEETED THESE VIDEOS AND HAS AROUND 44 MILLION FOLLOWERS! GOD BLESS YOU TRUMP!”
Fransen was convicted and fined last year for religious harassment after she hurled abuse at a Muslim woman in front of her young children. At the time, Fransen was on what she calls a “Christian patrol” when she accosted the young British mother and told her that Muslim men were trying to rape women across Europe. Just last week Fransen was arrested for a speech she delivered in Belfast only a week before the Charlottesville mob tried to terrorize us with their tiki torches.
“Britain First” were the last words shouted by the murderer of the British MP Jo Cox, before he brutally killed the rising political star, one week before the Brexit vote. But that’s obviously not the point of what the 45th president of the United States was trying to do. Stirring up racial and religious hatred for political ends has become known as “populism” among the pundit class. It’s considered impolite to call it what it is: fascism. But we are long past the point of giving Trump the benefit of the doubt, or respecting voters who exercise their democratic rights for racist causes.
There’s something more going on here that demands an honest response. Trump is a particularly stupid neo-Nazi sympathizer.
By now, most rightwing politicians have figured out how to flirt with the neo-Nazis without getting burned by their torch-wielding mobs and burning crosses. They stir hatred for immigrants and preach about the sanctity of national culture and family values. But they generally stop short of circulating fascist propaganda. It’s just too offensively obvious. link
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I don't recall the UK being upset by Obama and his bigoted AG that targeted innocent cops who happened to be white.
What does Obama yesterday have to do with Trump today? Why must you deflect?
Please stay on topic.
Deflect!
I'm not deflecting, just putting things in the proper perspective.
Not a moral or any other kind of equivalent. No matter how much you all try, trump will never be the man or president President Obama was.
Thank God for that. I don't want a president that makes bad deals with hostile countries or dismisses terrorist groups by calling them the "JV team".
This shouldn't be surprising information to anyone. London has a Muslim mayor and London is majority Muslim. So, they wouldn't take kindly to anyone with an opposing opinion. That's fine, except, don't for one minute believe that all British like it.
n the 2001 census, 71.15% of the population classed their ethnic group as white, including White British (59.79%), White Irish (3.07%) or "Other White" (8.29%, mostly Greek-Cypriot, Italian, Polish and Portuguese). 12.09% classed themselves as British Asian, including Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi and "Other Asian" (mostly Sri Lankan, Arab and other Southern Asian ethnicities). 10.91% classed themselves as Black British (around 6% as Black African, 4% as Black Caribbean, 0.84% as "Other Black"). 3.15% were of mixed race; 1.12% as Chinese; and 1.58% as other (mostly Filipino, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese and other "British Orientals"). 21.8% of inhabitants were born outside the European Union. The Irish, from both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, number about 200,000, as do the Scots and Welsh combined.
source
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what's your source?
I used Wikipedia for the Greater London area
Maybe you should provide sources when citing numerical data
In the 2011 census, 59.79% of the population classed their ethnic group as white , including White British (44.89%), White Irish (2.15%) or "Other White" (12.65%, mostly Greek-Cypriot, Italian, Polish, Spanish, Colombians and Portuguese). 18.49% classed themselves as British Asian, including Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi and "Other Asian" (mostly Sri Lankan, Arab and other Southern Asian ethnicities). 13.32% classed themselves as Black British (7% as Black African, 4.22% as Black Caribbean, 2.08% as "Other Black"). 4.96% were of mixed race; and 3.44% as other (mostly Filipino, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese and other "British Orientals").
from the same source I used earlier
you were saying?
WTF??
That is so-o-o-o ridiculous! Something so crazy should have your "BS detector" ringing at max volume.
At the 2011 census, the Muslim population was 12.4% .
It took me thirty seconds
- to read your sentence,
- to say to myself, that's totally insane ,
- and to find the right number on Google.
It's not hard to avoid looking foolish: just turn on your "BS detector", and then go to Google...
Why do you think I copied and pasted a paragraph from Wikipedia?
I really despise blatant ignorance
But fun and good sport for some of us.
I lived there,Mr. Nelson.
That poster's census was from 2011.
To most of those living in London who were born in England it has become an intolerable situation. They move to other areas like in Middlesex where I lived. Unless, of course, you are one of the fortunate who can isolate themselves.
Unsubstantiated anecdotes do not contradict actual hard data and numbers, no matter how much you all wish it were so.
Thank you.
It is opinion which people have just like you.
Opinions are not facts
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sometimes...I guess if you're not in pain it can be fun
Did you follow the link I gave you?
There are two boroughs at about 30%. It wouldn't be hard to guesstimate to 50%... which is why personal observation is pretty much worthless. That kind of surestimation says more about the observer than the observed.
Look, M... If you prefer to believe something contrary to the facts, that's your choice. There are firm believers in a flat Earth. But I for one will never be able to take anything you say seriously.
Look, maybe, it is true what you said. But, the thing is I lived there, I had conversations with people, I shopped, etc.
Take care.
Then you know how big the city is. You know how impossible it is for anyone to personally know the whole thing.
You know the story of the blind men describing an elephant?
- "It's like a snake."
- "It's like a tree trunk."
- "It's like a very big leaf."
- "It's like a giant, GIANT boar!"
- "I don't know what it's like because I can't get my arms around it."
I'm sure you knew your neighborhood well, and major arteries, and the parts of the Underground that you used regularly. But... that's far from "knowing London".
Does going to the private gambling casino in London count? I guess not.
My husband was in movie production, so, our range of acquaintances varied.
I shouldn't have said anything as someone always jumps in. Next time, MeMe, keep quiet.
Of course you should. Your personal experience can be enlightening for the rest of us. The trick is to qualify your knowledge as what it is:
"I got to know my neighborhood pretty well. There were a lot/few Muslims. There were some other groups, X, Y, and Z. Relations between the communities were xxxxxxx."
That would only tell us about your neighborhood, but that's a lot more than the nothing that most Americans know about England / London!
Ok, I can handle that.
Did any of those articles address MO's point of London being predominately inhabited by Muslims these days?
In the beginning Trump was demanding that he be allowed to parade through London in one of those Cinderella type carriages that the queen rides in.
The Brits shot that down and delayed the visit. After the other day I think Trump will be riding through London in one of these.
I like watching period pieces on Netflix and such, and I was watching one where somebody who had offended King James I was being pulled in a cart thru the crowd and the crowd was throwing rotten veggies at the prisoner. That's what I was imagining.
Maybe they can go old school
Game of Thrones!
Pretty much a guarantee that most Brits would like to see Trump run over by a team of horses, or at least drawn and quartered.
Even the PM wasn't impressed by his Islamophobic propaganda and his support for right-wing terrorist groups.
Actually it was a supporter of the "Britain First" white supremacist group who recently assassinated MP Jo Cox.
Why is this always the phrasing? May criticizes Trump and it's not an "attack" but when Trump responds it is an "attack." Aren't May's words properly seen as an attack? And aren't Trump words properly seen as a "defense?"
And it's like this just about every time. Someone says something negative about Trump and they're just expressing their opinion but when Trump responds, he's "attacking" them.
Listen to his words. They are "attack" words. There is a difference
The same words have different meanings for different audiences. The Unthinking Faithful TM don't hear "attack". The hear nothing out of the ordinary. Slurring anyone who disagrees is... normal... for them.