Collusion Update: Leaked Email by Trump Team: Russia 'has just thrown the U.S.A election'
President Trump's former deputy national security adviser K.T. McFarland told a friend in an email when she was on Trump's transition team that Russia "threw" the U.S. election to Trump, The New York Times reported Saturday.
McFarland reportedly wrote in the email that sanctions then-President Obama levied on Russia in response to Moscow's election meddling would make it more difficult for Trump to improve relations with Russia, "which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him."
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/362951-trump-transition-official-in-email-russia-has-just-thrown-the-usa
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The only emails I care about are ones with illegally stored and sent classified info.
I haven't heard anything about that with regards to these very damning emails.
The fingers in the ears singing la la la doesn't make it go away. There are some people that consider that a deciding factor in their vote.
"Do I vote for the candidate that can't handle classified material or do I vote the problem child out?" Or, "Do I vote for the person who has been a part of the problem in the federal government or do I vote in somebody new?"
Seems that many decided to vote the problem child that couldn't properly handle classified material out. And for some reason you STILL don't see the problem with deleting emails and mishandling classified material.
Those investigations are over. The emails were examined with a fine tooth comb for over a year, and while they were handled carelessly, there wasn't enough there to warrant even making any charges. It never ceases to amaze me that these keep coming up with all that is going on in the CURRENT administration. Honestly, Trump's NSA just plead guilty to lying to the FBI and now there is proof that trump himself KNEW that Flynn lied to the FBI. But already investigated emails surrounding a person that lost the election over a year ago are the main concern? Really? C'mon man..
Intent is 9/10th's of the law. Ask any lawyer.
...the candidate that just gives out "code name" intelligence to foreign enemies to earn brownie points?
I wonder how Valerie Plum is doing. You do remember her don't you? The CIA agent exposed by the Obama administration? The same administration responsible for Brian Terry's death. Remember him? The US Border Patrol Officer killed due to the Fast and Furious operation run by the Obama administration?
How about some hidden unclassified email servers containing classified information? Remember that? It was in the bathroom of the Secretary of State and two time failed Presidential candidate. The same candidate that is being looked at in the Uranium One fiasco. Oh wait, that was the Obama administration as well.
I though ear wax was there to protect something. What are they using it to protect?
The candidate that became President. That is what we were talking about, how they would act in office.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.f3a3498fc812
You mean Valerie Plame, the CIA agent outed by the Bush administration? The one Scooter Libby ended up getting being convicted of lying about? You are really off base and confused if you're blaming that on Obama.
As for the "Fast & The Furious" program, it was also started under Bush and continued under Obama and there's no evidence that Brian Terry was killed by the gun that the ATF allowed to be sold and tracked, it was collected after the firefight that killed Terry but was never actually linked to his death.
The real crime in the Fast & Furious program was the State prosecutors inability to prosecute the straw gun dealers because gun laws are so lax they didn't feel they could make the case after the ATF brought them several and requested prosecution. Because it's not technically illegal to buy and resell guns to anyone you want without any background checks, the prosecutors didn't believe they could prove the straw gun buyers "knew" they were selling the guns to cartel members or criminals.
I posted a thread about this yesterday, here is the whole story.
These emails for the most part prove collusion. The trumpologists will claim that donny had no clue any of this was going on.. Maybe it was John Miller.
If this is the best the left has then just call Mueller and tell him to give it up.
I wonder why they are focusing on just Trump. Wasn't it already proven that the dossier was supposed to influence the election?
It is evidence for sure, but not the only evidence. These emails are very damning, no question of it. There is a saying, "the fish rots from the head down". That's why the focus is now shifting to trumps kids and Kushner. Muller is starting small with Manafort and Flynn, and working his way up the chain. Flynn is talking to save his skin and that of his sons. The fact that Trump is saying that, "Flynn is an Obama era employee" shows how desperate he is to distance himself from Flynn, (apparently he forgot that he hired Flynn after Obama told him not to). Then there is the tweet that trump says he fired flynn because he lied to the FBI, which proves that he knew, and did nothing to report it. The claim that trumps lawyer sent the tweet is laughable at best. Trump tweets CONSTANTLY and claims they are all his own, but the one tweet that implicates him? "No, that was someone else!!!". Pretty pathetic. It's like a drug dealer getting caught with drugs in his pants and claiming that the pants aren't his.
Trump is empirically the worst president/person ever. Why try to cloud this reality? Partisan politics? Ignorance? Insanity?
And you ignore the other evidence because.....
You're whole rant never stated WHY we should ignore already proven evidence. But then again, I think I know why we should ignore it, that evidence damns the Dems and we can't have that on top of the crippling blow they took in the last election.
What you are calling "reality" is nothing more than you OPINION. But you keep up with your excuses of "partisan politics" and in ignorance. Although I think the ignorance came when somebody thought that the President Trumps opposition in the election would be a "good choice" despite the shady background.
What you are calling "reality" is nothing more than you OPINION. But you keep up with your excuses of "partisan politics" and in ignorance. Although I think the ignorace came when somebody thought that the President Trumps opposition in the election would be a "good choice" despite the shady background.
Last month, Dems swept the elections nation wide. You can expect that trend to continue. The GOP is being exposed for what they are, a mouthpiece for the super rich. This tax scam they just passed proves that without a doubt.
Last month, Dems swept the elections nation wide.
Yeah. The biggest claim was a Democrat winning a seat a Democrat held. Hardly call that a crippling blow.
Climbing a staircase is done one step at a time.
In what way? please explain how a persons opinion on an issue is damning? So they were aware of it, does that mean they automatically had a hand in it?
According to you it does..... Cause that is the only way you can make the connection.... an assumption....
Far be it for me to point out that you may very well be making an ASS-umption about yourself..
All of the above!
Someone posted a list the other day. Obama was rated 12th, his predecessor was 33rd.
Do not forget the Iranian militant groups that Tillerson told to "Go home" .. like that'll happen w/o a fight.
This is an interesting read ... New York Times will not let me copy past.. I am shocked I was able to get the title to copy over.
Sorry for going off topic...
1) Bush said the Iraq war ended in 2003.
2) ISIS was in Iraq LONG before Obama took office.
Where did they come from?
ISIS was born out of the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003. When U.S. administrators, under Paul Bremer, decided to "de-Baathify" the Iraqi civil and military services, hundreds of thousands of Sunnis formerly loyal to Saddam Hussein were left without a job — and they were mad. Al Qaeda chose to capitalize on their anger and established al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) to wage an insurgency against U.S. troops in Iraq (Saddam was secular, but his intelligence and military supporters were able to make common cause with the jihadis of al Qaeda).
During this time they were quite active in waging a sectarian war against Iran-backed Shiite militias in central Iraq and bombing hotels in neighboring Jordan. Many of their members were imprisoned in U.S.-run "Camp Bucca," where they were able to meet up and radicalize.
Fast forward to the U.S. "surge" in 2007: The U.S.-installed, Shiite government in Baghdad began reaching out to Sunni tribes, encouraging them to reject AQI. By this point, AQI was basically defeated and it looked like peace was coming to the Middle East (kinda).
Fast forward again to the Arab Spring and the uprising against Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad (more info on that here ). During the Iraq War, AQI would frequently go back and forth between Syria and Iraq to resupply, so it had a lot of contacts in the country. When Assad began shooting and gassing his own people, and the peaceful uprising turned into a civil war, AQI saw an opportunity to establish a presence there.
It quickly moved into Syria, renamed itself as The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), and merged with its Syrian counterpart. This pissed off al Qaeda's HQ, because they were already establishing a separate al Qaeda in Syria (aka al-Nusra front) and wanted it to remain separate. The two groups fought another mini-war amongst themselves and officially separated with AQI rebranding itself into the ISIS we hear about today.
So, Comey catches you scumbag congressman at least once making a false claim about when immunity was given and then uses the last bit of his time to repeat a bunch of claims without giving Comey a chance to respond. In sum, therefore, you've given us just one more anti-Clinton politician putting out any crap he can in the cause of "whataboutism."
And you get all huffy when I point to comments like that which show how you've drunk all the rightwing Kool Aid there is to be found. And it's not just on this particular subject. Why is it so hard for you to admit who and what you are? Shame? Embarrassment? I doubt that.
Right out of the Steve Bannon propaganda smear campaign guide. Quit pretending, Hipp. You're as rightwing as it gets.
But Bush didn't, did he?
The Anbar campaign started far earlier than 2013 so I'm assuming that's a typo(rather than a deliberate lie). ISIS (then ISIL) was present in the mix from 2003 on but didn't gain such stature until 2014 when it succeeded in taking several Iraqi cities (which have now been retaken by Iraqi forces with massive US assistance begun under Obama 3 years ago).
That's like saying "Hey, that underage girl you were banging didn't get pregnant till you pulled out! You should have just kept banging her!".
We had already been engaged in the longest war in US history by the time President Obama took office, and it was completely unfunded as the knee jerk reaction of our government when attacked on 9/11 was to just claim any spending on supposed defense was necessary and didn't need to be justified. Sure, the war was based on lies and we should never have even been there. Sure, the Bush administration wasted our taxes in a botched attempt at nation building that ended up getting us stuck in a deadly quagmire, but now all the Republicans who were so gung ho about it blame Democrats for not staying in Iraq for another decade just pouring our tax dollars into the sand.
And rehab is for quitters....
It is customary to let a President get more than a year into his term before making that determination but we understand. Butts are still hurting soo bad from last November that decisions have to be made .... premature as they may be .....
Bagging on Trump is Preparation H for the liberal soul ....
What's a trumper?
Someone who plays Euchre?
Trumper does sound like a card player, I prefer Trumpist myself!
Trumpist?
A person who trumps? ..... still sounds like a euchre player.
Is that what you two mean?
Some use the more derogatory term; 'Trumpanzee.'
Confusing.......
Do you want to touch a monkey?
It must have been VERY confusing to you, Sparky, your response made no sense whatsoever!
Who's sparky?
Of course we could take someone elses opinion of who are the worse presidents ever.
Then for worse people ever we can use this list.
I don't think Hillary can join their "club".
I think you are confused. These emails prove collusion and conspiracy to rig a US presidential election. Flynn is dishing dirt on Trump and his inner circle to save his own skin.
Do you have any clue how bad this is? Clearly not. We are not even a YEAR into trumps administration and it is completely falling apart. He is getting nothing done, he golfs all the time, attacks fellow American's right to free speech as well as the media... Here Mando, something to think about...
Trump has literally attacked every single demographic and world leader in some way shape or form with the exception of ONE person...
Putin.
Let that sink in for a minute.
C'mon Frosty, you KNOW that won't sink in, Armando is impermeable!
Umm, Flynn plead guilty to something illegal already.
Although we will not know for sure until the investigation and trials are complete, looking at it objectively, all indications at this point are that Trump WAS involved in illegal activities. That's just the way it looks, Shep, but you never seem to look at anything objectively. You decide what you want the truth to be, then pick the things which support what you want to be true.
If Flynn did nothing illegal, why lie about the meetings in the first place? In fact, why did ALL of these people lie about their meetings with the russians if there was nothing illegal about them? And I think you are forgetting what trumpy said.. "Not me, nor anyone in my campaign had any meetings with any Russians!!! Fake News!!"
I know, Mando is the undisputed king of, "But.........but........but..........HILLARY!!!!!!" It's all he has, he cannot defend trump any other way.
Show me a photograph of Trump and Putin in coveralls rigging voting machines in Michigan and Ohio that caused the vote to swing in Trumps favor and MAYBE I'll start believing.
Close enough?
If not illegal, there is no reason to lie. But they ALL lied which any normal human with even a shred of common sense will tell you looks REALLY bad and borderline incriminating.
It seems that hasn't really happened in the rightwing alternate universe.
Yeah, MAYBE but with your track record very UNLIKELY.
That is sooooo cute.
Who the hell are you talking about?
AT least they didn't suck putins dick to win an election.. Unlike that bottom feeding fascist nazi cocksucker trump.
hillary sucked putins dick for 150 million to her foundation in exchange for our uranium.
LMAO!!!! Debunked YEARS ago, FAKE NEWS!!!! Also, the donations came from the Ukraine, NOT Russia. The Ukraine is an ALLY, Russia is NOT and ally.
I think you may be correct Rmando, after reading the links provided, I am not seeing why there is such jubilation. Same thing regarding Flynn cutting a deal, he plead to only one charge, I do not see his testimony being anything earth shattering.
I could be wrong -James Comey
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Speaking of Comey - when will he testify? He must have the missing smoking gun .. right? After all he is the one that leaked information to a friend in order to get the Special Prosecutor ball rolling. Interesting that one cannot lie to the FBI - yet all law enforcement (hell all of government for that matter) can lie to "We the People"
I am waiting to see how things unfold, it is going to be interesting. Will Mueller have to prove intent?
That's the way plea deals work with cooperative witnesses, the prosecutors low ball the charges and hold in abeyance the more serious charges to insure compliance.
Since nobody has seen his testimony other than to his own guilty in the plea agreement no one knows what he's already told or will be telling Mueller's team over the next months. But it's hilarious that you've already decided there's not going to be anything there. That's wishful thinking to the nth degree.
bs. from start to finish.
all they had on flynn was perjury and tried to use that as the force to get more info...
flynn said fuk off and just charge me with perjury. leaving mueller with nothing.
False. At a minimum Flynn could be charged with conspiracy to kidnap, violations of the Hatch Act, money laundering and tax evasion, fraud, and violations of FARA.
This story is hard left clickbait that generates 24 hours of excitement before it gets forgotten by everyone not drinking the hard left kool aid. Sarcasm is not a crime.
For the literate, the email is meaningless, and will soon be consigned to oblivion.
Well when you in a smoke filled room, looking for someone smoking a specific grade of weed, they seem to get loopy before they get to the first smoker.
Pretty insulting statement, and dare I say, flat out rude. But i'll bite.
Only morons look at these emails and fail to see their significance and how they fit into the trump/russia collusion investigation.
I know, when one becomes a liberal, they have to go into the government offices to get fitted with their crystal balls so they can "KNOW" what everyone was thinking and doing at all times. that's so they can establish everyone's intent without having to have any proof....
Mr Frosty, you still havn't answered my question from above....
In what way? please explain how a persons opinion on an issue is damning? So they were aware of it, does that mean they automatically had a hand in it?
Well the last part we now have an answer, yes it is automatic.(according to Mr Frosty) Based upon what we haven't a clue, must be just because it IS......
One of those things that has to be understood before it can be explained.
Do you have a link to a story proving that? Any proof at all that Liberals have to go to a government office to get crystal balls? Do tell, would love to read that story.
What? you didn't get the memo?
(you really should consider a career in comedy)
Keep it up at this rate liberals and maybe in about ten years you can find something on Trump.
A tainted election is a tainted election. Yes, Trump won, but a win by cheating is not really winning. It may be time to start putting asterisks after some presidents names in the history books. Presidents who won without foreign interference should count as more.
LOL
hillary paid the russians to influence our elections and you say trump cheated?
too funny
Link or bullshit, your call.
What do you care, it's not like you have anything approximating the truth anyway.
I guess you were out of the loop when the Hillary campaign got caught paying for the Russian dossier? Going through a middleman to pay for dirt on Trump.
It was the DNC not her campaign but who cares about details right, right? Were you out of the loop when we learned the the dossier was first commissioned by, most likely, supporters of JEB!!! It's a good thing that dossier survived since it has served the purposes of exposing some serious and valid involvement of the Trump campaign's collusion with Russians.
Jeb was getting oppo research. Steele didn't come onboard until the DNC and Hillary's campaign hired Fusion. The timeline is out there but you wouldn't believe it so I won't bother giving you the link I have given after the story broke.
There is no Trump collusion to get the Russians to meddle in our election. They have been doing it for decades without being asked to.
They know all of that Norman. They just have their fingers in their ears while shouting "I can't hear you".
And let's not forget, Trump is a fan of Tom [Flatballs] Brady and the New England Cheatriots. Cheaters stick together...
EAGLES THIS SEASON!! Even Flatballs and the Cheatriots can't stop them this year!
Mr. Obama, she wrote, was trying to “box Trump in diplomatically with Russia,” which could limit his options with other countries, including Iran and Syria. “Russia is key that unlocks door,” she wrote.
She also wrote that the sanctions over Russian election meddling were intended to “lure Trump in trap of saying something” in defense of Russia, and were aimed at “discrediting Trump’s victory by saying it was due to Russian interference.”
She never says the Trump campaign colluded with Russia in her email. She points out the way Obama was trying to sabotage US relations with Russia.
Time for a special prosecutor to go after Obama, Clinton and the corrupt FBI officials who manufactured this "scandal"
Still wondering how Russia could have "thrown" the election?
Love your avatar, Rex, that shot of Hobbes is you!
" collusion - Flynn - Russia interference in the 2016 election - Trump campaign obstruction of justice."
Let me know when "REALITY" sets in . PEOPLE don't party over constantly picking the "Short" straw's ! It's the Long Straw that wins.....Duh !