Associated Press, NYT Torpedo Democratic Narrative On Government Shutdown
Two meteors fell yesterday. Tim covered one of them; the government has been shutdown after the Senate failed to cobble enough votes to pass a stopgap measure to keep its doors open. Nancy Pelosi of course attacked the Trump White House (via Roll Call):
The Senate on Friday failed to cut off debate on a House-passed bill that would avert a government shutdown and extend funding another four weeks, setting into motion a lapse of appropriations under a unified Republican government.
Lawmakers spent the day trying to negotiate a deal. Democrats huddled as a conference prior to the vote, while several GOP members met in Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s office. White House Legislative Affairs Director Marc Short traversed the Capitol throughout the night to meet with House and Senate leadership offices. But in the end, the Senate was unable to muster the 60 votes needed to cut off debate on the measure, falling short, 50-49.
McConnell voted against the measure so he could bring the measure back up for reconsideration.
The other event is that the Associated Press and The New York Times called out the Democrats for being responsible for the shutdown. Some left wing publications were not happy.
After a continuing resolution to keep the government open was passed in December, Democrats signaled that they would not be supporting future spending bills, even clean ones, until FISA, Children’s Health Insurance Program, and DACA were addressed. FISA is all but a done deal. CHIP is funded for six years with the House spending bill that passed on Thursday, and DACA doesn’t come to a head until March. President Trump issued a six-month enforcement delay on DACA when he decided to wind down the program gradually in September of 2017, citing the Obama-era program is constitutionally questionable. The delay was meant for Congress to get DACA right. Everyone wants to do something for this program’s who 800,000 recipients. The issue here is that Trump wants a wall. No wall, no deal—that’s the mantra.
Democrats have a) have longed called government shutdowns irresponsible, directing their attacks at Republicans; b) they’ve said that trying immigration to budgetary matters is just an exercise in chaos. Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said that in 2013 during the debt ceiling negotiations. The latter is the audible here. Democrats want a DACA deal first. It’s dealing with greedy, spoiled children when it comes to the Democrats. They’re getting everything they want. The only problem is that they don’t like the order in which to tackle these items by Senate Republicans. That’s absurd. Luckily, the Times and AP cite who really deserves the blame for this shutdown—and it’s not the GOP. Five Democrats broke ranks to vote for the measure. Even The Times’ Jonathan Martin noted that it’s hard to call this a GOP shutdown when most of the Senate GOP caucus and five Democrats voted to keep the government open. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/01/20/associated-press-nyt-torpedo-democratic-narrative-on-government-shutdown-n2437216
A majority of Congress supports the CR and the six year extention of the CHIP progam. Only a democratic filibuster stands in the way of funding children's health insurance.
Rememebr that the next time they claim how important children's insurance and how kids will immediately die without it.
The damn gop controls all branches of government so the damn gop must take responsibility for the disfunction of our government and especially for this shutdown. Just watch the gop fold on this like a house of cards before very long...
Wrong. The GOP has a simple majority in the Senate. 51 members. They do not have a Super Majority. Thus they must rely on at least 9 Democrats to pass legislation.
Wrong again. The House voted with a pretty safe margin to pass the CR. No dysfunction by the Democrats affected it there.
Since the Senate requires 60 votes to pass legislation, and the GOP by count only has 51 Senators, the dysfunction lies in the Democrat's opposition. For this CR, 3 GOP Senators voted NO, one (McCain) did not vote, and McConnell voted no in a procedural vote. 5 Democrats voted yes. So even if McCain were present, and the 3 GOP Senators had voted yes, there would still not be enough support from the Democrats to pass it. THUS, this is entirely the responsibility of the Democrats for the dysfunction.
#SchumerShutdown
#MAGA
Yet they failed to negotiate in good faith to make that happen.
That's because the GOP House majority doesn't need to work with Democrats and they didn't.
Right because even though they KNOW that they need Democratic support, the GOP Senate isn't responsible to garner that support. /s
What you mean is that the GOP finally did not totally capitulate to the wants of the democrats while giving up their proposals entirely.
Capitulate? The GOP has multiple times now, submitted bills and changes to existing laws inside closed door sessions without inviting a single Democrat. And NOW they are whining that the Democrats won't play by the Republican rule book???
No, I mean what I said. Please do not presume to put words in my mouth.
Xenophobes and assorted haters only respond to bigot-talking points!
Ignorance ain't bliss …
It's outright blind stupidity!
Instead of the Joseph Goebbels bullshit, right-wing propaganda … try some REALITY!
It’s not just the Dreamers who stand to lose from the Trump administration’s decision to rescind the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival Program; it’s the U.S. economy as a whole.
The economy could lose out on about $280 billion if the Trump Administration deports the nearly one million undocumented who qualified for the program, according to a January 2017 study from the CATO Institute.
The GREAT WHITE DOPE panders to the worst and ugliest "minds" among us.
Here's the problem with your statement. The Trump administration doesn't want to deport them. Trump wants DACA as a law. The way it should be. So he canceled the Executive Order with a deadline of March. 6 months for Congress to work it out. And he actively participated in the negotiations for it. Remember the alleged "Shithole Countries" comment? That was made in the negotiations of DACA.
The problem many here have is that they don't take the time to actually learn what these discussions have involved. Everybody jumps on an alleged comment. Read between the lines. It's out there. Go back and read the articles about that alleged incident. Here is what you will find out. The Democrats want to include everyone in the TPS program in the DACA program. What's the TPS program? Temporary Protected Status. Refugees. From Haiti, and countries in Africa. The TPS program for many of them is running out. So they will be returned to their countries. There are other programs they can apply for to stay, but the Dems want to just roll them into the DACA program. The Administration has said no. So the Dems are throwing a fit.
Additionally, the Administration wants the Border Wall included in the DACA bill. Again, the Dems are saying no.
So the issue with DACA is not about deporting Dreamers. It's about additions that both sides want that the other side is saying no to. This needs to be negotiated. Not acting like a bunch of Kindergartners and throwing a fit over like the Dems are doing..
This is what's so frustrating. The Dems really are getting everything - or close to it - that they have said they wanted. There's no reason to give Republicans a hard time on these issues except so they can continue to have something to complain about.
It's incredible. They are filibustering a bill whose contents they support 100% in order to shut down the government.
There's no other way to spin it, the democratic party just puts the interests of illegal aliens over American kids.
"There's no other way to spin it, the democratic party just puts the interests of illegal aliens over American kids."
And over American citizens with government jobs or who need Federal services. Despicable.
#SchumerShutdown
All the pubs had to do was the right thing. Stop messing with Dreamers and make sure DACA stands without being tied to other crap. It's literally the only thing Pubs had to do, but even then, they couldn't be bothered to do the right thing one time, and so we have a shut down.
Democrats shut the government down to protect illegal aliens. It's that simply. Aliens don't get to demand handouts.
You need to get educated on who gets the handouts.
By far, DACA people are more productive.
Only a 5 time draft dodger would play the military card while taunting North Korea and puting 85,000 American service men and women in heightened peril.
California pays more out in federal taxes than it takes in.
What else ya’ bringin’?
You still have nothin’ ...
And the Eagles are going to the Suoer Bowl.
I am a life-long Philly resident and absolutely an Eagles’ fan!
That's actually false. Plus, it wasnt the Dems that killed CHIP. It was definitely the Pubs that did that.
. Plus, it wasnt the Dems that killed CHIP. It was definitely the Pubs that did that
The Democrats just filibustered a six year re authorization of CHIP as part of the CR. The Republicans overwhelmingly supported it. In fact, if the Democrats in the Senate weren't filibustering the bill that has majority support in both houses, the CHIP issue would be resolved.
Illegal aliens over insurance for children is how modern democrats roll.
Thanks!
A Philly primer.
Good for you and the Eagles, I hope you kick New England's ass.
The Vikings laid one of the all time eggs in this game. They were supposedly the number one defense in the league and their tackling was TERRIBLE, time after time they gave Eagles runners and receivers extra yardage by missing a tackle or being out of position.
One of the worst defensive performances ever in a playoff game by a supposedly great defensive team.
Thanks, JR!
The Republicans could have extended CHIP mints ago but chose not to in order to hold children hostage to get Trump’s wall.
Insidious bastards!
could have extended CHIP mints ago but chose not to in order to hold children hostage to get Trump’s wall.
What are you talking about?
The funding for the CHIP program has nothing to do with the wall. Democrats aren't objecting to the contents of the CR, which doesn't include funding for the wall. They are trying to hijack CHIP funding with their gift to illegal aliens.
You haven’t been paying attention, Sean. DACA and CHIP are both hostages; every talk of compromise coming from Republicans comes down to funding for the wall.
Get away from Fox and listen to what is actually being sought by Trump.
Amac, you aren't entitled to make things up. The CR that a majority of congress suports doesn't include funding for the wall. Pretty much everyone from both parties supports what's in it, including funding for CHIP.
The fight is over what's not in the bill, but over protection for illegal aliens. Democrats are holding the CR, including funding for CHIP, hostage because they want to include a deal for dreamers in it. The shutdown has Nothing to do with the wall, you are being lied to, again, if you've read that on one of those extremist sites you seem to get your wilder takes from.
It's really simple, the shutdown fight is over what's not in the CR, not what's in it.
From your own source:
"but Democrats are withholding support unless Republicans agree to vote on an immigration bill with protections for immigrants who were brought to the U.S. illegally as children."
nothing about a wall as the reason they are objecting to the CR.
I’m De Captain Now! Republicans Hold 9,000,000 Kids Hostage With Likely Government Shutdown
If CHIP loses funding, the Republican Party is to blame.
A government shutdown looms, and the GOP’s solution has been to ask Democrats to choose between equally inhumane proposals. At Vox, Dylan Scott explains :
If Democrats reject this—and so far the party seems united in its determination to do just that—the government shuts down. Keep in mind that the Children’s Health Insurance Program, which provides health coverage to some 10 million kids, is nearly universally popular, and that extending it costs the government little; extending now, in fact, would actually save the government money . So the usual fiscal excuses don’t apply.
The GOP’s willingness to hold CHIP hostage is instructive: It opposes welfare for reasons that have nothing to do with the deficit. It’s easy to hold something hostage when you know it matters more to everyone else than it does to you.
Actually, HERE is the actual bill:
The one you posted was amended by the Senate and sent back to the House.
Just sayin'.
After reading and calling out so much BS on your part, perhaps
a gander inward.
Eagles crushed em
All the Democrats had to do was vote for a bill whose contents they support 100%
And they fucked that up. They couldn't do the easy, simple thing and not filibuster a bill they support.
I believe in immigration reform. What if I persuaded my caucus to say, ‘I'm going to shut the government down, I am going to not pay our bills unless I get my way?’ It's a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis.”
Chuck Schumer
Schumer is definitely a douchebag, but he also isnt president. No matter how ineffectual corporate democrats are, they can't match the ineptitude of the president.
Truncated, out of context, 5 year old 'quote'.
Yeah, but...the Republicans don't really control the Senate. They need 60 votes to do that. Perhaps if this goes on much longer, they should just change the rules to a simply majority. The Harry Reid Rule.