Why Should Sensible People Take Devin Nunes' "Memo" Seriously ?
The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee had to take himself off the "Russia" case after he was caught collaborating with the White House (the subjects of the investigation) on how to proceed.
Now this same clown, Rep, Devin Nunes wants us to believe in his impartiality when he analyzes information regarding the FBI investigation into the Trump campaign. Is this some sort of bad joke?
You don't get two bites at the rotten apple Mr. Nunes.
It was a little humorous when the right wing fanatics of this nation carried on over "Benghazi" for three or four YEARS even though many congressional investigations came up empty time after time.
But now the stakes are higher and the clown show needs to end.
The GOP "memo" is not objective , as can be proven by the fact that they are refusing to release the Democrats reply at the same time. Nunes is a proven fool who should be disregarded out of hand by sensible people.
Given the fact that Nunes had to remove himself from the Russia investigation, on what possible basis is his opinion about the FBI and FISA worth listening to?
What will be your response when this "memo" turns out to have been over hyped?
Two senior FBI officials have now reviewed a controversial Republican staff memo alleging abuses of government surveillance programs during the 2016 presidential campaign, a source familiar with the matter told Fox News – adding that the officials “could not point to any factual inaccuracies.”
The two officials – one from the bureau’s counterintelligence division and the other from the legal division – followed up after an initial review of the memo during a rare Sunday trip to Capitol Hill by FBI Director Christopher Wray.
My guess is that we will now see the proof that biased agents at the FBI used the unverified, salacious "Steele Dossier" to mislead a Federal Judge into granting them a warrant to spy on the Trump Campaign. If I'm right - heads will roll. It is a very serious matter for CIVIL LIBERTIES - or don't you care?
But republicans wrote the memo, right?
why should that make a difference? The news report states that FBI officials reviewed the document and could not point to any factual inaccuracies. From that statement I would take it to mean that the memo aligns with the underlying intelligence.
If the FBI is saying that the memo is basically accurate why should it make any difference who wrote it?
The public hasn't actually seen this memo yet so you have no idea what's in it.
Inaccuracies are the least of the worries about this stunt. Those will be found and exposed. Revealing sensitive intelligence is another thing altogether.
exactly
Rush limbaugh was bloviating on what was in the memo and I shouted back..."Dickhead! You don't know what's in the memo!"
That hasn't stopped the left from trying to hide and discredit the memo. The NYT is running hard & fast with people saying they will not believe it.
And that's why they were so careful not to do that
Seriously, doesn't Trump insist that any report that uses unnamed sources is Fake news?
Only the organizations that use them ALL THE TIME
Really? When did he make that 'No true Scotsman' statement?
First off Nunes didn't write it. He 'supposedly' compiled it, which I find hard to believe, as he has admitted to NOT reading it Yet ! WTF
this clown can't be trusted as I expressed below.
' "You are a Dick" could possibly be construed as an offensive insult when taken out of context, as it could have been originally stated as "You are a terrifically swell guy named Richard, and since you prefer the short slang version used by your loved ones, You are a Dick, and this version is preferred by you."' '
CAn you see how context means a lot to a guy named Richard like ME...
Cause I am Dick, damnet hear me ROAR !!
Ah so, but we will right after the SOTU message.
The Department Of Justice put out a statement, tonight, asking the Republicans not to publicly release the memo. Let's see how "patriotic" that piece of shit Nunes really is.
when did probiotic begin getting confused with patriotic anyway ?
Actually they said it misrepresents the facts and contains falsehoods.
Note that the memo itself was written by Nunes and the Trump WH, the very people who have been trying to undermine the House Intel committee's investigation and undermine and discredit the FBI for political purposes.
What are you afraid of?
I ain't afraid of nuttin'!
If there really is damaging information regarding the FBI I want to know about it.
Not to mention cherry picked, spun and twisted out of all semblance to the truth.
Why do you say that, you haven't seen it. All it does is contain facts that might be uncomfortable for the Democrats. Is that why you're worried?
wow....just wow
You have to consider the source.
The unhinged reaction from Democrats is a very good reason to take it seriously.
Unhinged?
Do you have video or audio that shows such?
The liberal reactions here in the forum are a dead give away.
Really? Where?
lol.
The history of your republican congressional committees acting in a partisan way is littered with utter failure.
I heard a Republican congressman say on tv today that people who think this will end the investigation into Trump are going to be disappointed. This was a Republican congressman, who has read the memo, who said the memos proponents are over hyping it. In that case, what else would be new? They overhyped Fast and Furious, they overhyped Benghazi, they overhyped the IRS case, they overhyped Obama's birth certificate, they overhyped Hillary's server. Seriously, all these worthless fucks on the right in Congress are good for is overhyping their investigations. They are clowns and you people invariably fall for it.
Well, yeah, if you want to characterize anything that doesn't the investigation as not-important, then its probably not important. It's like saying every story that doesn't immediately cause Trump to be impeached is irrelevant and not worth talking about.
I doubt it even touches on the substance of Mueller's work.
They are clowns and you people invariably fall for it.
Good point. Back in 2009, before those investigations, Obama was unpopular and the Democrats were a tiny minority in Congress. And now Clinton's President. Those congressional investigations (the birth certificate had nothing to do with Congress) sure backfired.
I was speaking in factual terms. You are speaking of how successful they were in brainwashing morons.
The investigations brought to light the facts that torpedoed Clinton's candidacy.
Just because Obama's DOJ was led by the first AG to be held in contempt of Congress and refused to bring appropriate criminal charges doesn't undercut what the investigations demonstrated to the American people.
When Mueller doesn't indict Trump, (and he won't) will you claim all the investigations into Trump were over-hyped propaganda for brainwashed morons?
Facts like she didn't lie to the FBI?
Facts like there was no criminality, therefore no charges against her?
Facts like she was not responsible for Benghazi?
skirting the CoC [ph]
What R U Babbling about ?
I do not see a semblance of a point or an argument, but you go boy, Eugo
Facts like she is greedy, corrupt, incompetent and spectacularly dishonest.
But Obama kept her out of jail, so she's got that going for her. What's funny is how so many on the left think that because Obama's DOJ didn't charge her, then that proves she did nothing wrong. Of course, they don't apply that standard to Trump, who's never been indicted, but you can't expect consistency from a liberal.
Outside of fevered far right wing imaginations she is none of those things.
She's guilty of all three.
Only to weak minded fascists who slavishly follow Fox and far right wing blogs. The rest of the free world feels very differently about her honesty, accomplishments, competence and benevolence despite over 3 decades of far right lies, innuendo and propaganda.
First you have to figure out the definition of "Communist". I know you're still, after 8+ years, trying to figure out "socialist", so don't worry we'll be patient.
Hey! Hillary lost! Get over it!
Why ask now? You already have
Rep. Devin Nunes, Trump’s stooge, attacks FBI
BY THE EDITORIAL BOARD
January 25, 2018 01:07 PM
Updated January 26, 2018 03:46 PM
What, pray tell, does Rep. Devin Nunes think he’s doing by waving around a secret memo attacking the FBI, the nation’s premier law enforcement agency?
He certainly isn’t representing his Central Valley constituents or Californians, who care much more about health care, jobs and, yes, protecting Dreamers than about the latest conspiracy theory.
Instead, he’s doing dirty work for House Republican leaders trying to protect President Donald Trump in the Russia investigation.
It’s no accident that this latest attempt to discredit the FBI and distract the public is happening at the same time special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe appears to be picking up steam – and focusing on possible obstruction of justice by the president.
Reports this week say that Mueller’s team has interviewed former FBI Director James Comey – fired by Trump over the Russia probe – and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who recused himself from the investigation. Reports also say that Mueller wants to soon interview Trump about the dismissal of Comey, as well as the firing of former national security adviser Michael Flynn, who pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI and is cooperating with investigators.
Trump said Wednesday he’s willing to talk to Mueller under oath, subject to advice from his lawyers, of course. But he also suggested he’s being accused of obstruction because he’s “fighting back” against unfair allegations of collusion between his campaign and Russia.
Nunes of Tulare is sheltered in a relatively safe Republican district, and may believe he will pay no political price for unfairly attacking law enforcement and protecting Trump. But his performance as chairman of the highly sensitive House Intelligence Committee has been nothing short of embarrassing .
Instead of taking Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election seriously and leading an impartial and bipartisan inquiry, Nunes has colluded with the White House. Last March, Nunes said he’d seen secret intelligence reports backing Trump’s claims that President Barack Obama had “wiretapped” his offices, but it turned out the documents came from the administration.
The blowback forced Nunes to step away from the Russia investigation . But he never fully recused himself and after the Republican-controlled House Ethics Committee in December cleared him of disclosing classified information , he raised his profile again.
Now, he’s being celebrated in Trumpworld with the four-page memo that accuses the FBI of political bias and misdeeds. Drafted by Nunes staffers, it apparently summarizes classified material and alleges abuse of the surveillance process by the FBI and Justice Department to target the Trump campaign. Conservative media and some Republicans in Congress are calling for it to be released publicly and using it to call for Mueller’s investigation to be shut down.
There are reasons to be very skeptical of this memo . The FBI hasn’t been sent a copy or given a chance to respond. Democrats who have seen it , including Rep. Adam Schiff of Burbank, say it’s full of inaccuracies and innuendo. And the social media campaign #ReleaseTheMemo may be promoted by Russian-linked bots , just as during the 2016 campaign.
Nunes’s office did not respond Wednesday to our questions about the memo. But the Justice Department wrote to him, warning that it would be “extraordinarily reckless” to release the memo without any review for possible risk to national security or ongoing investigations.
While the FBI has overstepped during its history (for instance the COINTELPRO operations against political dissidents during J. Edgar Hoover’s tenure), it is supremely ironic that the GOP – which long has proclaimed itself the party of law and order – is serving to undermine public trust in agents who risk their lives, combat organized crime, ferret out public corruption and protect us against terrorism.
We also can’t forget that Republicans defended the FBI when Democrats criticized Comey last year for reopening the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails just before the election.
But now we’re supposed to believe some Republicans that there’s some kind of anti-Trump “secret society” within the FBI? It’s ridiculous.
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No one who is called a stooge for Donald Trump by his home town newspaper should be taken seriously.
Something I posted earlier that pertains to your seed
Both Party's are broken, as is our entire system, but to imply the Democratic Party exceeds that of the Republican in its being in your in artful words
The abomination known as 'Trump', brought forth to us via the 'rights' constant barrage against the Obama Nation, is such a telling plight, about what is so wrong, with the damn 'right'!
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This has all been seriously amplified and exampled by this current BullShit surrounding a memo voted along party lines to be released.
Nunes, the incompetent stooge who has proven to be one who cannot be trusted to be unbiased after running to the White House on his own to give the WH info, that he had actually received from said White House, had recused himself, then slowly slipped back in...? How the FcK does that work, He wants to release something HE HADNT READ
TRUMP , says he will release something he as well HASN'T FCKN READ
Politicizing our top investigative body and our entire Judicial system as a whole, is being done by many asz A Wholes.
FUCK THEM This is a bad Joke being played out in real time in like a 'reality TV show'
that BLOWS
Putin WON Our country is so damn STUPID and IGNORANT it's FCKN become hard to watch
There are many around here bright enough to realize this, when are you going to be man and woman enough to own up to your being taken...
cause YOU HAVE BEEN
While this is called the Nunes Memo, it was, based on other articles, written by Trey Gowdy for David Nunes and will be called the Nunes Memo mainly due to Nunes being the Chairman of the committee writing the memo. Why should we believe the memo? Because, if it is accurate, and supposedly several members of the FBI have reviewed it and found it to be accurate, then it shows that we have corrupt and criminal behavior going on WITHIN the FBI and it needs to be cleaned out of that behavior.
I thought Nunes first name is Devon?
And isn't Trey Gowdy retiring?
Here comes the expected preemptive damage control.
Hilarious!
is not the adjective I would use to ones attempting to taint the investigation by a proven non biased REPUBLICAN, Mueller
TREASONOUS would be a far better descriptive adjective for ones attempting to contaminate an investigation that, imho, will prove Trump had much help from Russia and Putin, as he hasn't done shit about the Russians screwing with the 2016 election except to deny it, or anything to further protect our next election this year, refuses to implement sanctions he signed into law over the summer as the deadline passed yesterday, and has yet to mention a negative word about Putin(Only PRAISE).
How can you clowns accept this ?? Are you AMERICANS ??? iF SO Act like it and put your petty as party politics the fck behind U, and look at the facts with an open mind
and attempt some damn
CRITICAL THINKING
More than TRUMP No ?
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He also came out and gave a speech attempting to make everyone aware of this fact.
What are YOU suggesting he should have done ?? Nuke Em ???
Can you recall anything negative Trump has EVER said about Putin ?
Cause all I've ever seen him do is praise the scumbag.
Please, show me something...
This investigation has become hopelessly tainted by the actions of some member's of Muellers team. Evidence of illegal conduct by the Obama administration and using the FBI and DOJ to accomplish these activities need to be investigated. Real patriotic Americans would want to know the truth, but the Democrats seem to be afraid for the truth to come out.
YOU show ME something he said that is supportive of Putin. Sounds like Putie is pissed with Trump about some stupid list.
To both You and Rex, I rest my case
He called Putin a Great Leader
www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/donald-trump-praises...
and if you won't accept CNN, there are multiple more fellow
Rosenstein just told Trump NOT to release the MEMO, as it could damage the departments, as some of it IS NOT TRUE.
THis is his own Justice Department WTF and your view ?
Link to this profound statement.
I'd suggest that you not question peoples patriotism here. Especially for people you don't even know. Lest you get smoked and labeled a biased partisan hack.
That's not the problem here. You see to think critically one has to first be rational so i suggest the following for you:
Rational Thinking first. Then we can talk Critical Thinking and not until then.
OK OSM Please explain Y the TRUMP appointed DIRECTOR OF THE FBI
'TOLD" Trump, "don't" release the Memo.
They didn't tell Trump anything. The meeting was with John Kelly, not Trump. If it was so damaging, why would they meet with an underling to try to convince Trump not to release the memo, why not meet with Trump directly? It looks like they are just going through the motions of trying to stop the release instead of actually stopping the release.
It was on Fox, they told Trump. That's how it's done now.
Trump was busy learning how to read his SOTU. Are you claiming that meetings with Kelly are a waste of time? That would be pretty disheartening for those who are negotiating the immigration bill since ALL of those meetings have been with Kelly, NOT Trump.
Since it was the FBI's only shot at reviewing the freaking memo, WTF did you expect them to do? Take a pass?
Take another perspective. If Trump was serious about national security, why have Kelley meet with Wray? Why not have the NSC review the memo and brief him about it?
Or maybe have Nunes come in to explain the content of the freaking memo? That should be informative.../s
Anyone who thinks the FBI and DOJ should be apolitical and not put its' thumbs on the scale of justice for partisan reasons should want to see the memo and it's allegations fully investigated. It's hard to imagine a bigger threat to our Republic than our national law enforcement agencies acting as partisan enforcers.
The legacy of Eric Holder, coming home to roost.
They should be apolitical otherwise they can't be trusted as they proven time and time again they can't be trusted.
Only a complete idiot would dismiss or accept the memo without knowing what is in it.
You realize you just described Nunes and Trump correct ? As Both had admitted to not reading it yet. Guessing Nunes has now, but probably not Trump, and definitely not 99% of the people calling for its release, but hey wtf does that matter....
It doesn't matter, except to the LWNJ's who are afraid of what's in it.
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What's an IDOT?
Indiana Department of Transportation?
Is Apple coming out with a new "DOT?"
Someone who inquires what an obvious typo is
That would be INDOT...
IDOT is Illinois or Iowa?
In this case it means someone with no sense of humor i guess.
Doesn't work that way here.
Michigan is MDOT
I guess first state to the single letter wins.
Indy lost.
Illinois
Looks like Perrie has her own definition
that's a very good point. Let's get it out there and then investigate whether the "facts" hold up to scrutiny
Hillary claimed that she lost because the Russians interfered in the election but all we’ve actually discovered is that she tried to rig the primary. Now, there’s a memo showing that the FBI may have abused its power to tip the election to Hillary. If the memo weren’t damning, Democrats wouldn’t be fighting so hard to keep it secret.
So you think that is all "we've actually discovered" huh ?
What was it 16 or 17 of our Intelligence agencies all coming to the same conclusion about Russian interference on our election process ?
Guess you're backing Trump and going against 500 plus of our representatives who voted against 5 dissenters about sanctions Trump signed into Law last summer.
Your Bias is showing again
Right back at you
Clown
shoes come in above 16-17
I've read your word parsed Tossed Salad BULLSHIT all B 4
put a sock in it, but try the front of your pants this time
James Clapper testified before Congress that only the CIA, NSA, and FBI were involved, not the 16 or 17 Intelligence agencies that comprise our entire intelligence network. Essentially, they concluded that Russia hacked the DNC to discover that Hillary was trying to rig the primary. Did that affect the election? Highly unlikely. Her cronies in the media drowned out the story with non-stop “pussy grabbing” coverage. Plus, she was widely despised and had the lowest polling rating in history (other than Trump). And she campaigned on a platform advocating sanctuary cities, transgenderism, abortion etc, positions that are anathema to much of the country. She lost the election, not because of Putin, but because she stinks.
Why would the Russians meddle in our election? Apart from the fact that we are not above meddling in other people’s elections or, if we feel like it, toppling the whole damn government, Putin had a reason to go after Hillary that has nothing to with Trump. In 2011, Hillary claimed that Putin rigged his election and that accusation triggered civil unrest. Exposing Hillary for actually doing what she claims he did could, in his mind, be fitting revenge. Do I care? No. If she’s a lying conniving scoundrel, then it should be exposed and I don’t give a shit who does it.
I have no idea what you’re talking about. Anyway to the extent that you think knocking Hillary is support for Trump, then you’re wrong. I don’t like either of them.
Nope, yours is.
But You Seem 1000% biased against how Trump gets exposed ( ANd it so far is ALL LEGAL )
See how that works
Actually only three of them said anything about it, and that the available evidence was inconclusive.
BS
All lies should be exposed no matter who tells them. I don’t care about Trump so you’re aiming at the wrong person. If you’re trying to talk to a Trump supporter at random, maybe you should try standing on a street corner and yelling your opinion at the metro busses at they pass by.
Comey announced a week before the election that he was reopening the e-mail investigation. How is that helping Hillary? If the FBI leans in any direction it is to the right. Always has.
The democrats should simply release their own memo, and give McConnell the finger. Give the American people the entire story, not some Republican cherry-picking. Everyone knows by now the Nunes is northing more than Trump's bitch, who can believe anything he says or reports?