Trump Overhauls Medicaid, Food Stamps and Public Housing in Landmark Executive Order
This is change conservatives can really believe in.
While much of the mainstream media was occupied with analyzing Monday’s FBI raid on President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, the president himself was making a different kind of history earlier this week by overhauling the country’s welfare programs to make able-bodied recipients work or risk losing their benefits.
In an executive order signed Tuesday, Trump imposed a 90-day deadline for all federal agencies that administer aid programs to review their work requirements and come up with ways to make them stronger.
As Investor’s Business Daily noted, the federal government has plenty of examples of states that have cut their welfare rolls and put recipients back to work by imposing work requirements.
Alabama, Arkansas and Kentucky are among the states that have decided that making work a requirement for public aid is good for the public coffers as well as the recipient.
Trump’s executive order is titled “Reducing Poverty in America by Promoting Opportunity and Economic Mobility” and that pretty sell sums up the rationale. It states in part (emphasis added):
“The federal government should do everything within its authority to empower individuals by providing opportunities for work, including by investing in federal programs that are effective at moving people into the workforce and out of poverty. It must examine federal policies and programs to ensure that they are consistent with principles that are central to the American spirit — work, free enterprise, and safeguarding human and economic resources. For those policies or programs that are not succeeding in those respects, it is our duty to either improve or eliminate them.”
Basically, welfare that simply prolongs dependency by families across generations is bad for the families involved, it’s bad for the American spirit, and it’s bad for a system of government that depends on the informed choices of the governed.
Are you in favor of work requirements for welfare recipients?
In a nutshell, individuals who work for their own living are individuals who can be functioning parts of a democracy. Of course, poor people on welfare have the right to vote. But they might be a little more careful how public dollars are spent if they were actually contributing to them.
While the executive order went largely unreported by the mainstream media — FBI raids on the president’s lawyer are so much sexier than substantive policy changes — the measure is a sign of just how adept the still-young Trump administration is becoming at handling the twin responsibilities of foreign policy challenges and domestic policy reforms.
While facing a crisis in Syria that ultimately culminated (for the moment) in Friday’s missile strikes in conjunction with Britain and France, Trump still had time to issue an executive order overhauling key elements of the welfare state.
On social media, many liberals — as they always do — cried about the unfairness of making public assistance recipients work for their benefits. But for many conservatives, the action was yet another step in the direction of dumping the Barack Obama legacy of swelling the country’s food-stamp rolls.
Some posts were sarcastic:
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So right wing fascist billionaires make the poor even more poor and then punish the poor for being poor?
Good it’s not the billionaires that spend all day watching Oprah and wanting to live off of my back at my expense.
The President prefers old Apprentice episodes on VHS and, of course, Fox News Channel.
Figured him for Betamax.....
Nope, they're just the ones who short sold your grandparents retirement funds and home equity during the last financial crisis and made their billions so your grandparents have to move in and live at your expense.
A goodly number of corporate CEO's are liberals. The majority of jobs in the US are not with big corporations, but medium to small businesses. Most fast food places are run by franchisees, who operate on small profit margins.
Not possible. Fox news has said for decades that liberals are too lazy to work and are all on welfare.
I cannot deny that my friend.
LOL.... I have, am and do. I hire people to do what I can't. period
(otherwise I screw it up worse) lol
I've never seen a poor guy fire someone a week before he can retire either.
Landmark decision? LMAO! Trump was (and is) too much of an ignoramus to realize, when he first started screeching about this quite a while back, that much of this was already in place. Apparently some of his supporters are just as foolish. You pretend you're all about state's rights .. well, check this out:
As usual, Trump wants to take credit for something which was in place before he was in office. And now he is imposing tariffs which will hurt our working class even more , and all that bullshit he claimed about keeping manufacturing jobs in the US proved to be exactly that - bullshit. Those jobs left after all. He hires immigrants to work at his properties, his ties and all that crap he sells (or used to, until those businesses failed as his other ones did) as his reality TV brand are made in China ... yet he still fools people like you into thinking he gives a crap about our hard working American citizens and our country.
You want people on public assistance to go to work? So do I. What kind of training will we give them so they can do that? What jobs will we create so they can find them? It's not as easy as you think it is. How do we relocate those in the small towns where there is no industry, to where jobs do exist? Come on. Think about it rather than bleating nonsense. You're such a promoter of the flyover states, where I live, despite your being a Left Coast person ... how do you get jobs to those small communities? And without jobs, what are you going to do with those on assistance once their benefits run out?
There was one dude on NV who constantly slammed people on public assistance, then he lost his job due to the economy. He still railed against public assistance while living off what he used to call the public teat, all while claiming Trump would give him a new job (it never happened, that I recall). He never bothered looking for a job, so it seemed .. he just wanted his hero Trump to magically bring the economy back to where he lived. That will not happen - no President can do that. So what do you propose? Bring up some ideas rather than spreading hatred and going against what Jesus stood for, for once.
Oh, and you want to reduce the need for public assistance? Start supporting free birth control, stop opposing women's health rights, start supporting sex education, and start holding men accountable for any children they sire (mandatory DNA testing of the men would result in tons of money for child support, right?), start working to improve science and literacy in our schools, reduce the gender gap, and such. Start walking that talk. Read that bible a little harder and think about it a little more, if you're unwilling to think about logic and facts. Jesus would want you to support all these children that you want to force women to have, by denying them access to birth control, sex ed, and abortion (while conveniently letting the men off the hook - it's OK for them to have sex, but not for women).
Free birth control? Planned Parenthood will do that for them, and provide abortions at taxpayer expense. No one is opposing women's health rights. What good would sex "education" do, when they learn all they need to know on the streets and on the Internet. And the left has never been concerned about holding men accountable. Stupid argument ya have there.
Planned Parenthood is losing their funding all over American in the red states.
And they don't pay for abortions at taxpayer expense. The next time I have to say "Hyde-Amendment" to one of you conservatives, I'm getting a CoC violation and possibly a vacay.
P.S. to Perrie....I'm cool with a 4-5 day suspension since I'm going on a real vacay anyway.
That has never been true. Besides your folks have been working to eliminate PPH.
It's like the Hyde Amendment never happened
They pay so little attention to actual facts.
Excellent response!
I know exactly who you are talking about, he was one worthless sack of shit. What was really sad (or maybe funny) is that he didn't seem to understand, AT ALL, how much of a hypocrite he was. He had some attitude that he somehow deserved his assistance, while everyone else was just mooching. Oh, and of course like a bitch he blamed all his problems on Obama. One fucking useless member of society. Actually I take that back, to be a member you have to actually contribute.
So, who exactly will be most negatively affected by this misbegotten executive order just issued by Trump?
Poor kids in rural red states whose parents have few work opportunities. In other words, the Trump Voters...
I guess all those Mormon sister wives and breeders like the Duggars won't be getting all their SNAP bennies.
One question. Who wants to hire all those meth heads, oxy addicts, mental cases and RW religious zealots?
Urban Americans will mostly be able to shake this thing off. Rural red staters are gonna be mad as H E L L!
What are poor white folks with lots of kids in blighted backwaters supposed to do to feed those kids? Work?
Brilliant /S
The right has been whining for years about Obama's EO's...Now that Trump has signed another EO, which puts him way ahead of Obama in EO's, the right is overjoyed...
But, but aren't EO's illegal...LMAO, hypocrites.
Maybe poor folks in rural red states will think twice before voting against their own best interests now...
I cannot imagine anything better for the gop than having millions of poor kids going hungry come Nov.
Yeah, don't hold your breath on that one JBB.
I doubt that it will change their minds about Trump. I live in a rural red state and to quote some of them, God will provide.
There's another saying that my Mom use to use a lot, "God helps those who help themselves." You knowingly vote for a candidate that is going to cut social programs like SNAP and, you use SNAP expect to get the shaft when he makes it into office. This is for all those people in the deep Red states that voted for Trump.
prove it
They are not coming back ever:
I didn't think they were. I knew that 20 some years ago
I live in one, too. They voted for trump because he's "pro-life", I shit you not. These people bitch about one issue voters and that's exactly what they are. They will never, ever vote for someone who is pro-choice
Wait until they discover Cohen has paid off some abortions with some of the many payouts that he has handled.
If you haven't watched Andy Griffith as Lonesome Rhodes in A Face In The Crowd lately I recommend it.
Everything olde is new, again...
“The federal government should do everything within its authority to empower individuals by providing opportunities for work, including by investing in federal programs that are effective at moving people into the workforce and out of poverty. It must examine federal policies and programs to ensure that they are consistent with principles that are central to the American spirit — work, free enterprise, and safeguarding human and economic resources. For those policies or programs that are not succeeding in those respects, it is our duty to either improve or eliminate them.”
If this actually happens, then I applaud this particular move. Providing opportunities and support is the key part of this. If our gov't can do and actually does this, then it empowers everybody, which is a good thing. If however it fails in completing this mission, then it will have the opposite impact and make things incredibly worse. So...here's hoping for success.
Provide some evidence. I live in WV and I can assure you, nobody around here thinks coal mining jobs are coming back. Technology is killing it off, not regulations. Power plant owners are turning to natural gas, for one thing. Since Trump's election, the largest coal-powered plant in the West has closed, and at least 40 more are expected to close before the end of his term. Strip mining and mountaintop removal are much cheaper than deep mining (deep mining is the only type of coal mining which provides many jobs for people rather than using mostly machines) and what new coal mining happens uses those methods.
Many of the manufacturing jobs Trump claimed he was saving are gone. The Carrier jobs? Poof. Even Trump gets his crap manufactured in China, as does Ivanka with her shoes.
For once, do some research before making a claim.
Well only Alabama has any data to review on whether work requirements accomplished the goal of “Reducing Poverty in America by Promoting Opportunity and Economic Mobility”. Alabama's poverty rate went UP after the work requirements took effect, especially for working women and children.
So while Alabama decided that work requirements are good for the recipients, data seems to show that it actually means that it merely reduces the amount of recipients and raises the number in poverty.
That’s the way it should be. I have no problem with drunks, bums and meth heads choosing to live in poverty as long as they are not getting government assistance.
Excellent song. I like to play it when MR Giggles is around and blast it!
And sing it really, really, really loud
Wow, I guess you missed the part about the WORKING women and children...
We can give Israel 7 billion a year in handouts, but cannot afford to feed our own people. Sad.
There is no Constitutional authority for federal welfare. Whereas the Israeli aid is part of a treaty accord and requires Israel to spend 90% of that money on defense purchases from the US or US defense companies
"The government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like state governments, whose powers are more general.Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government."
-- James Madison, speech in the House of Representatives, January 10, 1794
In 1794, when Congress appropriated $15,000 for relief of French refugees who fled from insurrection in San Domingo to Baltimore and Philadelphia, James Madison stood on the floor of the House to object saying, "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
-- James Madison, 4 Annals of congress 179 (1794)
"I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and duty of the General Government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit."
-- President Grover Cleveland vetoing a bill for charity relief (18 Congressional Record 1875 [1877
"I cannot find any authority in the Constitution for public charity. [To approve the measure] would be contrary to the letter and spirit of the Constitution and subversive to the whole theory upon which the Union of these States is founded."
-- President Franklin Pierce's 1854 veto of a measure to help the mentally ill.
"The care of every man's soul belongs to himself. But what if he neglect the care of it? Well what if he neglect the care of his health or his estate, which would more nearly relate to the state. Will the magistrate make a law that he not be poor or sick? Laws provide against injury from others; but not from ourselves." —Thomas Jefferson
so taking care of Israel is more important than our own people?
I do agree with Madison on objecting to that
Agree - there is no such requirement in the Constitution that states that folks in poverty should be paid to live in poverty.
As Madison sez -"The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people"
I, personally, would abolish the welfare state. Government assistance does not mean you have the "right" to collect welfare - period.
First of all you don’t seem to grasp what I stated. That treaty negotiated by Jimmy Carter requires Israel to spend that money here. That means American JOBS. and it means the money isn’t really going to Israel or Israelis.
secondly our Constitutional separation of powers leaves issues like Welfare to the states and the people (private charity).James Madison Federalist No. 45, Alleged Danger from the Powers of the Union to the State Governments Considered, Independent Journal, January 26, 1788;
“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.”
who ends up with the stuff? we paid for it but Israel gets to keep it, they can afford to pay full price for it.
Actually it is detailed in a 'Memo of Agreement' signed by Obama. Wonder when Trump will demand that we back out of that one...
Misplaced
Meh, most already do, the effects of this will be minimal at best.