Trey Gowdy reveals stunning information about Trump spying accusations
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( I would not have used this title because it is a little misleading, but we are given no choice.)
Trey Gowdy reveals stunning information about Trump spying accusations
Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) said Tuesday that the FBI has acted appropriately given the evidence they were provided about Russian interference. He added that he believes President Trump should grant special counsel Robert Mueller’s request to answer questions.
Here’s what Gowdy said
“I think there are two things important to understand,” Gowdy explained.
“Number one,” he said, “the source of President Trump’s frustration. Brennan said he should be in the dustbin of history, Comey said impeachment is too good of a remedy, Clapper doesn’t like him, Loretta Lynch said, ‘call it a matter not an investigation.'”
“Schiff said he had evidence of collusion before we even began the investigation, and sixty Democrats have voted to impeach him before Bob Mueller has come up with a single solitary finding. That’s what got him frustrated,” he concluded.
“I want the FBI to find that out.”
“What should have him heartened is that [FBI Director] Chris Wray and [Deputy Attorney General] Rod Rosenstein and all the senior folks at DOJ now were all Trump appointees,” Gowdy explained. “So here’s what’s fair to ask. What did the FBI do? When did they do it? What was the factual predicate upon which they took whatever actions they took and against whom were they directed.”
“But remember Martha,” he said, “it was President Trump himself who said, ‘number one, I didn’t collude with Russia, but if anyone connected with my campaign did, I want the FBI to find that out.’ It looks to me like the FBI was doing what President Trump said I want you to do, find it out.”
“He’s not the target,” Gowdy concluded, “so when Schiff and others don’t make that clear, they’re doing a disservice to our fellow citizens, he’s not the target.”
“Donald Trump was never the target”
MacCallum asked Gowdy why he thought the FBI hadn’t briefed Trump early on about the investigation into his campaign.
“I think defensive briefings are done a lot and why the Comey FBI didn’t do it, I don’t know,” Gowdy responded, “but Chris Wray and Rod Rosenstein have at least made it clear to us, Donald Trump was never the target of the investigation and he’s not the current target of the investigation.”
“Now, keep in mind, that could all change depending on what a witness says,” he added, “but as of now, I think Chris Wray and Rod Rosenstein are stunned when ever people think Trump is the target of their investigation. I’ll leave it up to them how to brief the president or how to brief his lawyers.”
The FBI acted as citizens would want them to
“Was that point of view that you’re talking about right now,” MacCallum interrupted, “was that strengthened when you went into this briefing this last week?”
“Yes, I am even more convinced that the FBI exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got, and that it has nothing to do with Donald Trump,” he answered.
Here’s the video of Gowdy’s interview on Fox News:
Gowdy went on to say that even Trump should be satisfied when he hears what the FBI has done. “He was never the target, Russia was the target,” he said. Gowdy also said that Trump should sit down with Mueller and answer his questions.
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Despite the spin the Blaze tried to give it, and to a certain extent Gowdy's own words tries to give it, what he actually revealed is that Trump's "Spygate" conspiracy theory was completely baseless. Gowdy was in the room when the FBI gave it's basis for opening an investigation of the Trump campaign , and Gowdy says now that it was completely justified.
It's hard to overstate how much this destroys Trump's narrative about the FBI. And Gowdy is a Republican.
No, that is not what he said at all. Trump is not the subject of any investigation. Never has been. An investigation into the actions of the previous administration, and the possibility of its using powerful federal agencies to influence an election should be followed up and acted upon. After all, I'm sure they have nothing to hide.
Greg, you can read, right?
Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) said Tuesday that the FBI has acted appropriately given the evidence they were provided about Russian interference.
Let's use Gowdy's own words
"I am even more convinced that the FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got..."
Gowdy is specifically referring to what he learned when he attended the famous briefings last week where Trump ordered Rosenstein to give the Republicans background information on their investigation into the trump campaign.
Wait, according to who? So Mueller is investigating what? Everyone EXCEPT trump? Trump is being investigated for many things, up to and including obstruction of justice, (which is a felony and an impeachable offense). Not sure if you heard, but it was revealed today that trump all but begged sessions to UNrecuse himself from the russian investigation, on the same day that Sessions recused himself. Gee, I wonder WHY he would do that? Because trump wanted Sessions to PROTECT him because trump knows he is guilty. Just another nail in trumps political coffin.
Absolutely ZERO evidence of this, if there was even a SHRED of evidence, trumps FBI would have been all over it from day one.
Actually, that is exactly what Gowdy said.
Those were Russian federal agencies but for some reason the treasonous Trump supporters don't want to talk about that. It really is shameful to be surrounded by so many people who hate western Democracy and American idealism of freedom, justice and equality such that they would side with a foreign enemy bent on our destruction.
All true. I mean, we had to listen to the right wing yell and scream how great putin was and how much better a leader his was than Obama....which is fucking laughable. But then they actually believe that trump has been tough on Russia...despite the fact that trump has never said a disparaging word about putin and when he said he was going to impose sanctions on Russia, (that congress passed 8 months ago), he folded at the last minute and threw the sanctions in the garbage.. Trump is putins bitch....sad.
Trump is most definitely the subject and the target of the investigation about obstruction of justice. That investigation includes at a minimum Trump's firing of Comey and his treatment of Sessions. Trump is also one of the subjects of the investigation into the Trump campaign's collusion with Russia.
Gowdy clearly said it was the Russians who were being spied upon. And Comey more than once told Trump he was NOT the subject of any investigations. Trump was not the subject of the investigation. Listen to his words again, carefully.
NO, Comey said that Trump was not 'under' investigation. Comey said that in May of 2017 about the time that HE was in charge of the investigation. A crap load of stuff has come out since then.
It's been reported that while in negotiations with Trump's lawyers, Mueller's team characterized Trump as a 'SUBJECT' of the investigation. That was in April of 2018.
So while you desperately want to hang onto a now IRRELEVANT 2017 statement by Comey, based on the 2018 report, which has NOT been refuted by anyone, any thinking person would acknowledge that Trump is a SUBJECT of the Mueller investigation.
Already have, which is why it's hilarious to watch you trying to interject your own words into Gowdy's mouth. Gowdy says Trump isn't a target multiple times. He NEVER says Trump is not a SUBJECT.
Now, if you have proof that he did use the word 'subject' in connection to Trump, post the exact wording, preferably from a transcript of the interview.
My bad, according to the transcript, Gowdy said the word target 7 times...
Here's where the right gets fucked up....Trump is not the TARGET, he IS a subject.
That would give them the benefit of the doubt as if they're making an innocent mistake, they aren't. They are intentionally obfuscating an get pissed when called out on it.
No, that is not what he said at all. Trump IS the subject of the Mueller investigation. There are three characterizations in Federal investigations. Witness, subject and target. Trump is a SUBJECT.
Gowdy was being a little careful with his words. He didnt want to completely burst the Trumpist bubble, but he also wants to keep up his image as a deep thinker on the GOP side who only wants the facts. He is trying to steer the Trumpists attention off of the nonsensical "Spygate" business, and what he said was quite to the point. The FBI did nothing wrong and there is no "spygate". Someone should have told Trump before he went on a stage tonight and ranted about the FBI "infiltrating" his campaign.
And you are correct, Gowdy didnt say anything about the Mueller investigation.
Remember Trump's non-stop tweets that repeatedly thanked Comey for telling him 3 times that he wasn't under investigation? After he was fired, Comey explained that he told Trump that he wasn't under personal investigation. Good grief, most of the people who have pleaded guilty in this mess weren't under personal investigation at the onset.
And worthy of a mention: Trump's constant implications of deniable plausibility are rather comical. (#I didn’t collude with Russia, but if anyone connected with my campaign did, I want the FBI to find that out.) What he doesn't seem to realize is that even if he could claim such a thing, it means he couldn't be bothered to surround himself with reputable people. Many of his actions have been labeled criminal. Mix that with stupid and you get the most unfit/unqualified/ridiculous president in US history.
Which ones? Please list them along with sources. Thank you.
What's not comical is that his sycophant fans lap it up.
The cognitive dissonance that it requires to support Mr. 'Only I can fix it' and then rinse and repeat Trump's whining about 'if they would only stop investigating me...', 'if McCain had only...', 'the Dems won't let me...' is galactic.
These same sycophants demand that Obama and Clinton be prosecuted for every action by every person connected to them in any way.
They point to Obama's 'failure' to fulfill campaign promises while cheering as Trump rewrites his 'promises' right in front of their faces. "Mexico will pay for the wall', 'the Democrats are obstructing funding for building the wall'.
Trump's minions to this day decry Obama's use of EOs while cheering Trump's EO signings and demanding that his proclamations be viewed as the letter of the law.
They berate Obama as a LIAR because he said 'you can keep your doctor and your plan' while DEFENDING Trump's over 3000 LIES by claiming that 'all politicians lie'. Obama LIAR, Trump politician.
As an example of just how cowed the GOP Congress has become, this is 'Finding #27' in the GOP House Intel Committee's Russia Report:
So you see, it isn't Trump's fault that his campaign welcomed unvetted pro-Russian advisors into the room, it's the 'establishment's' fault. This from the party of 'personal responsibility'.
What's comical it that Nunes and his minions that wrote the report don't seem to recognize that 'Finding #27' reflects on the LACK of quality of the rest of Trump's campaign team, which includes Nunes...
Violation of the Emoluments clause
Obstruction of justice (Comey firing)
Fuck that! There is already too much about Trump admitting he fired Comey "Over this Russia thing"
And his Hotels with his pay for players foreign customers is also well documented and also has a civil suit in DC for the same.
His tariff on China thingy gets backed off and suddenly Ivanka has her trademarks approved.
He directs the Government to get HTC back on track (because Chinese people will lose their jobs...the whole reason he said he was going to apply tariffs so the jobs would come back to us) and his Indonesian project gets funding from the Chinese.
Just these things alone would have brought out the pitchforks, rope and an impeachment with a criminal conviction 3 years ago. But different now huh?
To what end. Your prior comments in this seed prove a complete and total willingness to state falsehoods despite the fact that everyone can see/hear a video that proves they are falsehoods. Links and sources are wasted on sycophants.
It's one thing when "Jess Willard Trump" lies and the lies tickle his minions' fantasies as to how America "ought to be." Then, as the willing dupes and/or willfully ignorant "nationalists" and so-called "evangelicals" (both euphemisms) they are, their vitriolic myopia is "validated" by the liar-in-chief.
But I would hope (and probably in vain), that even the hardest of the hard right, at some point, might have a revelation that goes something like …
"Motherfucker! That lying piece-of-shit …
… WAS LYING TO US …
… and now we look like the gullible fools we actually were!"
NOTE: But then again, at times, I am a romantic and a dreamer.
He literally could murder some one in the White House, be caught with the blood on his hands and his supporters would not only justify it and continue to find excuses for him, but would actually cheer him on.
I honestly don't think there is one thing that man could do that would cause his supporters to turn their backs on him
He would just tell them because he found out the dead person was "...a leading...mind you I said leading member, not some low level guy a LEADING guy that I, Donald J. Trump found, and you were lucky I'm so intelligent, and I'm the only one that could have accomplished this... that I found a leading member of the DEEP STATE and he was trying to get me to give up the codes to the nookular football, I donald J. Trump saved the world...yeah, that's the ticket! " (With background music when he says deep state...Dahn, dahn Daaaahhhnnnn)
And they'd hold him up as a war hero.
You're kidding, Right??
They literally got fleeced by the Tea Party........Once a fool....
If you read my entire comment, you may remember that I closed it with …
"NOTE: But then again, at times, I am a romantic and a dreamer."
That MF word is pretty bad.
That MF word is pretty bad.
Which is why I chose it, Maggie. The way the word is used in Philly and elsewhere, is not only to call someone that word as a deprecating pronoun, but also, as an opening declarative word to express alarm and anger at a situation that comes as a shock and grave disappointment.
I know its usage. That's why it is bad.
otherfucker! That lying piece-of-shit …
… WAS LYING TO US …
… and now we look like the gullible fools we actually were!"
That's what I always thought about Clinton voters. Yet they persist.
But....but....but....HILLARY!
You just can't quit her.
That's what I always thought about Clinton voters. Yet they persist.
And yet, it is now Republicans who are turning on Trump …
Don't misunderstand, politicians are liars by necessity as Boobus americana demands that it be bullshitted to "validate" its ignorance, laziness, and, to appease via pandering, its fucked up stupidity that leads it to vote based on race (all), religion (all), gender, special interests … despite the reality that it does so, often contrary to its own best utilitarian interests.
A pox on on their houses!
Watch Fox News take down Trump's lie!
Devastating...Even FOX threw Trump overboard.
As Trump becomes more-and-more an obvious political liability, Republicans will set him up to be "Nixoned!" They will do the right thing for the wrong reason … political rather than ethical.
The handwriting is on the wall, as it has, IMO, been since Flynn was indicted … but now that handwriting is bolder and, of greater length. Trump is in a box … he can't fire Sessions because both Republicans and Democrats, albeit for different reasons, have his back. And, if he fires Rosenstein, again, IMO, Sessions will forbid Rosensteins replacement to interfere with Mueller … it's a perfect way for Sessions to pay back Trump for humiliating him.
Trump is fucked (IMO) at least a half dozen ways!
I've been most surprised by the judge weighing in regularly as a foil to Trump's b.s. In the past, Napolitano was one of the worst offenders of towing the Fox/Party line, but I guess you can only take so much obvious b.s. before you blow.
Shep has always been the Fox anomaly. A gay anchor who actually calls b.s....he is everything Fox stands against, but Shep's excellent history as a reporter and anchor during the last war made him somewhat untouchable, thankfully.
Trumpsters in deep denial keep telling themselves lies but even they must be catching on by now...
The oddest thing is that Trump ultimately represents all things contrary to traditional conservatism.
He certainly does not embody that "personal responsibility" thingy
They never caught on to the gang banging they got from the Tea Party, and now you want them to understand multiple levels of thinking?
What are you fucking smoking?!?!
Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn occasionally … and who more willingly blind than those who will not see?