North Korea Accuses U.S. Of Betraying The Spirit Of The Recent Summit, Says Current Pompeo Visit Is "Regrettable"
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http://thehill.com/policy/international/395925-north-korea-says-talks-with-pompeo-regrettable-report
North Korea is reportedly criticizing talks with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo , calling the two days of meetings that ended Saturday “regrettable.”
An unnamed spokesman for the North Korean Foreign Ministry in a statement accused the U.S. of unilaterally pressuring North Korea to denuclearize and “betraying the spirit” of the summit between President Trump and Kim Jong Un last month, according to the Associated Press .
The statement said the discussions with Pompeo were “very concerning,” and suggested that the regime is no longer as willing to give up its nukes as it had previously been.
Pompeo offered a differing view of the two days of talks, telling reporters that the conversations were “productive,” "in good faith," and that “a great deal of progress” had been made, according to the AP .
The discussions came weeks after Trump and Kim signed an agreement committing the U.S. to unspecified security guarantees in exchange for a denuclearized Korean peninsula. Trump critics said the deal was too advantageous to North Korea and did not secure enough for the U.S.
The agreement lacked specifics and the secretary's trip to Pyongyang this weekend was intended to discuss details of the deal. Pompeo met with multiple senior North Korean officials, including Kim's right-hand man, senior North Korean official Kim Yong Chol, but did not meet with Kim during this trip.
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It is amazing how quickly this fell apart. Trump's bullshit skills must not be what they used to be.
The Trump lackey/newswoman Maria Bartiromo interviewed Trump for Fox the other day. Even in such a cozy setting Trump couldn't put a good spin on this, and just repeated that he thought he had a good personal chemistry with Kim Jong Un, with a sort of "I don't know what went wrong" look on his face.
I guess it is a good thing that Trump did not do anything like, oh say, end the sections and give the plane loads of cash before the North Koreans actual showed that they would comply with the agreements. To bad that another president do similar things for a different country that continuously calls us "the Great Satan" and still calls for our total destruction.
Or strike a deal that guarantees nukes by 2030 if followed.
I see the rightwing bullshit puke funnel has been gushing at top capacity in my absence.
You were gone? Can't say anyone noticed...
That's because YOU don't speak for everyone, and YOU can't read everyone's thoughts like YOU like to think you can.
I for one did notice Atheist's absence and missed him. And I for one am very glad to see him back with us.
You should learn to speak for yourself and let others speak for themselves.
Well, that's one...
Yeah....and you don't speak for me. If I want to make myself heard, I am more than capable to do it myself.
Not speaking for you. Simply made an observation.
And it was an observation that you stated as if speaking for everyone else here, as you were obviously under the assumption that everyone else here feels and thinks the same as you do, which is not true. And it was stated with a very broad brush.
Welcome back, buddy, we need your sanity around here more than ever now.
Which you are free to ignore. I believe broad brushes are allowed around here, as long they are not "sweeping generalizations"
Where did Randy go?
More unneeded evidence that rightwing bullshit never dies.
Boo!!!!There is a Russian under your bed.
Welcome back. It is nice to see you again.
Who said it was a violation? I never said was, so don't put words in my mouth. Saying someone is using a broad brush is not against the CoC.
So in our own words, my saying he used a broad brush is "Which you are free to ignore."
Not ever, half of what I now own is stuffed under my bed. So your scare job attempt is a no go.
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Great to have you back Atheist. You have been sorely missed around here.
I forget what movie this came from but the line was "Unless you have I LOVE YOU on the head of your dick and I am giving you a blow job, do not put words in my mouth."
dittoing what Raven said. I missed Atheist's presence. So why don't you think the next time before you go speaking for "everyone"
I wouldn't expect you to come up with any factual rebuttals LMFAO!
Yeah, I thought it was a sure thing since NK never does this kind of thing and PresidentCheddarCheese is such a smooth operator.
You thought what, exactly, was a sure thing?
Where is Iran? Not ever in the news.
Sure.
Weren't there recent demonstrations there against the government? Guess that would be ignored by the MSM.
Says someone who trusts a blathering moron to deal with the NKs. And then you complain about the well-deserved ridicule you lot get. No one ever trusted Iran. That's why there were layers upon layers of monitoring (despite the constant lying by your side that there weren't any).
Sure is a good thing that NK isn't a threat anymore. Kim threw Trump out of bed as soon as he saw his tiny little hands.
I was all set to agree until I saw the last word. (hee hee)
Weren't there just demonstrations HERE against the government? As those aren't a blip on y'all's radar, why the interest in those in Iran?
suggested that the regime is no longer as willing to give up its nukes as it had previously been.
Apparently he was never willing to give up his "nukes". But Trump still holds the upper hand with continuing sanctions and pressures from China and other interests in the region. I suspect this is just a face saving tactic by Kimmy Poo designed for internal consumption
What pressure from China? China is expanding its reach and doesn't seem to be to worried about NK.
Absolutely no evidence of any of that -- a fact that Un's latest behavior underscores. Trump's got nothing in his upper hand but his limp dick.
but....but....but....
Wasn't that what all the hoopla was about? What was all that noise you guys were making last month? Bad sushi?
How quickly what fell apart? They're talking. It's not like we had some kind of alliance with them. No one's status had changed. And all you've ever heard Trump say is "we'll see what happens."
No that's not all I heard the president say. He said the North Korean threat was over.
Personally I think the president was talking out of his ass once again.
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President Donald Trump declared on Wednesday that there was “no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea,”
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North Korea continues construction of nuclear research facility despite agreement to 'denuclearize': report
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Well hell, the firepower was there long before the Kabuki summit and Kim was shooting off ICBMs, which seems pretty fucking provocative to me.
So what has Trump done exactly, other than halt our joint preparedness exercises, which is what both NK and China wanted?
We got?
Sorry I missed your reply.
What we think N Korea is still doing right now seems kind of provocative to me so it doesn't seem like trump got the point across well enough. If there is no longer any nuclear threat from N Korea then why are they still working on their nuclear program ?
This all seems to me like just another "Mission Accomplished" photo-opt moment for trump.
One huge attribute lacking in president trump is his attention to detail most of the time. He’s great at seeing the big picture but doesn’t seem worth a shit at figuring out or even caring about the details of any of his "solutions" or carrying out his visions/ now called "policies".
We really dont need to look any further than the mess his instantaneously enacted " Zero Tolerance" at the border order caused in separating families without proper planning.
At this time it seems like DNA testing is even needed because of of lack of proper paperwork and tracking of the seperated. What a mess for those people and now our government.
IMO: This unplanned mess is about as bad as no one reading bills like the ACA before voting on them. Effective efficient results usually involve detailed planning, most things worth doing do.
trump always seems to lack most if not all the details of implementing his policies. I hope he starts doing better. Like they say, "The devil is always in the details". One in power should deal with that.
But that always complicates everything eh ?
Too bad, that's life and for most of us reality.
We've had all kinds of firepower directed at NK since the 50s.
And all you've ever heard Trump say is "we'll see what happens."
Wrong! The following is from a tweet of his.
Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!
And the conservatives will spin this like it's a dreidel
His Marvel Universe villain name would be "The Mandarin Balloon-knot"...
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"An unnamed spokesman for the North Korean Foreign Ministry in a statement accused the U.S. of unilaterally pressuring North Korea to denuclearize."
The "Unnamed Source" just figured that out ?
This "Unnamed Source" sounds like Foreign Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf. "The U.S. is NOT HERE !"
It's not New News Mr. Unnamed Source.
Oh please. This story is all over the news this morning. In fact , the NK government referred to the US delegation as "gangsters" in a later statement.
North Korea says high-level talks with US delegation ‘gangster-like’
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said their talks made “a great deal of progress”, but North Korea has claimed the exac…
Oh Paleeeeeez !
Did I say the story in itself was false ?
Wow, that's as fast a retreat as I've ever seen.
Yosemite Sam would have to fire both guns at once to retreat that fast.
I'm still waiting for an answer. How is it I was the one to retreat again ?
Maybe YOU should read and comprehend my original post too !
I didn't reference any thing more than the NK "Un-named" Source in the article, and they all took it personally.
I suppose they ALL root for NK.
North Korea Accuses U.S. Of Betraying The Spirit Of The Recent Summit, Says Current Pompeo Visit Is "Regrettable"
Who cares, trump said the North Korean nuclear threat was over.
With his known penchant for lying, do you really believe him on this? Oh wait, you drank the kool aid so of course you do.
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Of course I do, I always trust the president of my country.
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LOL
I'm not sure why anyone would believe anything that NK says. His only weapon are his nukes. I really don't see any senario that he'll give them up.
The US and the world has been down this path before and it amounted to nothing. I would hope that that would change but I really don't see it in the near future.
Hopefully the one thing that I'd like to see NK follow through on immediately is the return of our soldiers KIA in the Korean war.
I'd believe Kim before I'd believe anything Trump says.
Well, that's helpful. Not.
Apparently a trusted and valuable source in the seeders eyes!
Just curious - what do you think would happen to any North Korean official who makes a claim that is in conflict with Kim’s directives?
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No way would any of Kim's people put out info dear leader hadn't OK'd but they even pay a terrible price if they just get ahead of his lead by mistake.
Dam was it just less than two years ago that America had leadership respected world wide.
Our current buffoon in chief is such an embarrassment.
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Sources added that Song, serving in the Korean People’s Army, was publicly executed after being hit by a rain of 90 bullets - fired by nine military death-row convicts.
I wonder what ‘death-row’ even means in NK. Is that a place where they pluck out your fingernails and toenails before you are executed, just to ensure maximum suffering? It’s not like there’s a legal process to be executed in NK. It just happens on command.
That is easy to answer. Lock and load then the trigger is pulled.
In my opinion, if you are a North Korean citizen period, you are on death-row.
Pretty accurate statement. Being alive in North Korea is just waiting to die.
Feeling safer every day...yeah, right!
Calm your fears....Kim is just spouting off for local consumption and knows his bluff has been called. Trump gave up nothing to get this far with the little bastard....and will walk away from the process if NK wants to continue this silly game.
And so it begins... Already prepping the spin for, "well the meetings failed, but it's not trumps fault...".
Except the little 'spouter' is a murdering mongrel with nukes...but hey, let's be friends. Who needs war games with our allies when you can have a sit down with a dictator! Mattis is noticably absent.
Well, it appears to be Kimmy's fault. What's Trump supposed to do.
Gave Kim a huge propaganda victory by meeting with him, suspended military exercises in exchange for.... what exactly? Yeah, Trump gave up nothing to get this far, how far are we exactly?
I know what he didn't give up.
He did give up the sections placed on NK. They are still in effect.
He didn't give them a planeload of cash.
He didn't give back 5 terrorist leaders.
You didn't actually list anything we gained...
Do you perhaps mean sanctions and not sections?
China was clandestinely trading with the NK and is now back to trading with them openly and blatantly. Since China is their #1 trade partner, what other nations do is almost irrelevant.
BTFW, Russia stepped up and NEVER stopped trading with NK.
He did give up decades of policy to not meet with NK (As it elevates their position as a recognized and stable country)
He did give up Joint Operations training which NK always hated (Making our security in the region weaker)
He did give up his trust to the American People (Claiming success and a de-nuclearized NK)
We gained 0 but actually gave up a lot.
Um, not say stupid shit like, "I trust him!". What a fucking idiot.
WINNING!!!!!!!!!! LOL!
They're already building a shelf in the lobby of Trump tower for that Nobel prize.
I will bet it is stamped with MADE IN CHINA.
It will also be made of steel so he'll have to pay a big fat tariff.
Okay for real, does anyone actually think anything of substance is going to come of all this? Like does anyone here REALLY think North Korea is going to disarm?
Do you really think Iran stopped working on getting the bomb
Yes I do. Honestly I don't think they were ever seriously working on it to begin with. The perception and ability to do so sure, but actually working towards a real test, eh, not so much. They know what a successful test would mean for them, and as such there is no reason to actually do it. Now, if we or anyone else were to attack, then they would have every reason to push for a bomb ASAP.
At any rate, do you have anything to say regarding North Korea, or are you just going to continue to deflect in order to "defend" the terrible negotiations skills of the dip shit in chief?
Great! Hey I got some land I am trying to get rid of .It has been flooded since the end of the last Ice Age but it should be visible as soon as the next one happens.
I am not defending Obama's The Appeaser. Oh wait just because he didn't give up everything we were trying for and gave the North Koreans everything they wanted and more his negotiation skills are less than acceptable.
Nah I am good, I already own as many properties as I wish.
Yawn, again, got anything even remotely interesting to say? Deflection is so boring.
With Iran we got concrete oversight, verification of disarmament, the ability to inspect all nuclear facilities and their giving up of their centrifuges capable of creating weapons grade nuclear material. It was a compromise that wasn't just brokered by the US but was the P5+1 (the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council —the United States, the United Kingdom, Russia, France, and China—plus Germany) and the European Union.
The supposed "cash payments" were court ordered for money owed and the rest was simply giving them access to their own money and assets that had been frozen. Obviously part of the deal was going to encompass the returning of their assets for good behavior and the promise not to pursue nuclear weapons for at least a decade. We got something tangible in the Iran deal, we got nothing but empty promises with zero allowance for oversight or verification in exchange for global recognition (which was Kim's primary goal) and giving up military readiness training with our allies South Korea.
Even if Trump reverse and reinstitutes the training exercises as NK breaks their flimsy promise, Kim already won, he got what he wanted, to be seen as an equal to the United States, to stand on a stage with an equal number of NK flags mixed with US flags being greeted warmly by the President. It was one of the things previously withheld by every former President as an incentive for actual good behavior, Trump handed it away before discussions were even begun. I suppose a meeting with Trump isn't really worth all that much, apparently you can get one for just the cost of a membership at Mar-a-Lago.
Exactly. That was his primary goal in all of this, the global recognition. Standing on stage with the world's lone super power, shaking hands, and exchanging remarks as an equal. Something neither his father, or grandfather, was able to achieve. Some Trump supporters do not seem to get that.
Sure we did .In some cases we have to give them a month's was time for them to hide their work and in other cases we just ask them if they are competing and take their word for it
Except we gave them everything up front before any bad behavior and noncompliance could be detected
And you believe that too. Do you still write to Santa too?
I thought the purpose of the negotiation and the impositioon if sanctionswas to keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons at all, ever
We got bupkis!
Still waiting for you to list the positives of fat ass's North Korea negotiations...
Sounds like you have no clue how the NPT's Additional Protocol works in other countries and you have no clue about the continuous monitoring and random IAEA inspections of nuclear sites. And apparently you've made no effort whatsoever to learn about those things, all you've done is read Faux News and Breitbart.
One meeting is not a negotiation. How long and how meetings were held with the Iranians? Trump has one meeting and you expect everything. We got more meetings, more talks. Compared to the Iran fiasco we gave up little and did get some return .
... Seriously? That's it?
but he said NK was giving up its weapons!
There have been four meetings if you include the Trump Kabuki summit.
Trump CLAIMED everything. Go read his tweet.
BTFW, Clinton NEVER met with NK and got a hell of a lot more...
Bullshit. Stop slinging debunked crap about the Iran deal if you want to retain any credibility.
Trump gave Kim everything that he wanted and got NOTHING.
The trump administration has had three meetings with NK, that we know of.
With Iran trump just pulled out completely. Now we have nothing. Years of work and negotiations down the drain. You all complain about them getting their own money back yet what trump has done is give them their money back for free. Now we have no way to check or inspect anything. Dumbest move one could make. I bet the extreme elements there are praising his stupid decision.
They are correct, trump gave NK exactly what they wanted. Now little dictator has his flags center stage next to US flags and plenty of propaganda to feed his people.
The so called art of the deal is a scam (just like his phony school that he was sued over). trump has gotten played by everyone. We are now out of any negotiations with Iran, he is treating our long trusted allies like shit and now I would think South Korea feels like we abandoned them.
And still, somehow, you all think that is winning...
fuck no
As long as China is powerful I agree. It seems to me that the North Koreans are more afraid of China than they are of the US or South Korea. They know that ultimately, China sees them as a vassal and little else, and the only thing that maintains their independence are the tens of thousands of American military forces staged throughout Asia. The threat of a hot war on their border, one that the Chinese will be forced to get involved in in some fashion. That is the North Korean defense strategy.
Only the deplorables do.
Trump Suggests China Might Be Interfering In North Korean Talks.
Well if you want another countries help and then slap them with billions in tariffs there just might be a back lash, dontca think...DUH
Exactly. That was his primary goal in all of this, the global recognition. Standing on stage with the world's lone super power, shaking hands, and exchanging remarks as an equal. Something neither his father, or grandfather, was able to achieve. Some Trump supporters do not seem to get that.
I wouldn't expect you to come up with any factual rebuttals LMFAO!
Who is "you" as your reply is not aimed at a previous comment?
Well, Paula, talking to ones self is a sure sign of mental illness..
Hey, I have to get some intelligent conversation somewhere.