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US Is ‘Least Racist, Least Xenophobic Country’ in History, Prager Says

  

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Via:  heartland-american  •  8 years ago  •  134 comments

US Is ‘Least Racist, Least Xenophobic Country’ in History, Prager Says

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While speaking last year with a black man shining shoes at the airport in Newark, New Jersey, about his time in America, syndicated talk-radio host Dennis Prager said he asked the man whether he thinks America is racist.

There was a tense pause as the man nervously looked around.

“It was clear he was a little embarrassed to say, ‘No, it’s not racist at all. I love it here,’” recalled Prager, the founder of PragerU, a website that creates videos touting conservative values. “He felt like he was betraying what he was supposed to say because he was black.”

Prager says that the man’s feeling of “embarrassment” shouldn’t be occurring in America today.

“This is the least racist, least xenophobic, multiracial country in the history of the world,” Prager told about 800 15-to-18-year-olds at the High School Leadership Summit, an educational conference for young conservatives sponsored by Turning Point USA . The nonprofit organization says its mission is “to educate students about true free-market values.”


Prager shared what he said was a “little-known statistic” first reported in the New York Times by columnist William Safire in the 1990s.

“Africans want to come to America. … More blacks have come from Africa to the United States willingly [and] voluntarily than came as slaves,” he said in his remarks at George Washington University’s Lisner Auditorium. “Why would they come to a racist country? They want to come here because they know how well they will be treated.”

To Prager, American values and ideas should trump the identity politics of race and ethnicity. He noted, however, that there’s a difference between the left and liberals.

“If you are liberal or conservative, please understand that the whole liberal agenda is racial integration, and the whole left-wing agenda is race segregation,” he said.

Prager told his youthful audience that they could ascertain that simply by asking a single political litmus-test question.

“If you [ask someone], ‘Do you believe in separate dorms for black students?’ If they say they do, they are leftists and racists. If they say they do not, they are liberal or conservative.”

Today, America’s founding values are under attack, he said.

“You are not entering a happy America,” he warned. “You are entering an America fighting once again for [those values].”

Prager likened the overheated response to President Donald Trump’s Helsinki news conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin to the mass hysteria of the Salem witch trials of the late 17th century.

“People can actually say on national television that Helsinki news conference between President Trump and President Putin was equivalent to Kristallnacht, which was the opening of the Holocaust,” Prager said, referring to Trump’s appearing to side with Putin as he criticized U.S. intelligence agencies.

“Let me tell you as a Jew, how disgusting and vile it is to compare the supporters of the president to Nazis,” he added.

Prager concluded his 30-minute speech by calling on members of his youthful audience to fight to preserve the United States.

“There is no American ethnicity, it’s American values,” Prager said. “America is an idea, and when you get rid of that idea, you get rid of America. … You have a fight on your hands, because what is at stake is the United States of America. ”


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96WS6
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3  96WS6    8 years ago

This is all true but for some reason the far left wants to convince us all otherwise.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4  Dismayed Patriot    8 years ago

We're the least racist, xenophobic country in history because of all the liberals and progressives that live here. If the bigots got their wish and we all disappeared they'd be back to 1950's Jim Crow laws at a minimum.

 
 
 
96WS6
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4.1  96WS6  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    8 years ago

Jim Crow indeed! It's a good thing good people blocked the Democratic party's racist agenda a long time ago, isn't it.   Heck those bastards were still openly displaying racism in 1964!  Remember the civil rights act and how they tried to block it?  What was that Lyndon Johnson said about keeping some folks voting Democratic for the next 200 years again?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  96WS6 @4.1    8 years ago
Remember the civil rights act and how they tried to block it?

I remember that it was a majority of Democrats who overwhelmingly supported the 1964 civil rights act, more of them than there were Republicans. But that's because I remember facts.

1964 Civil Rights Act Vote By party and region

Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War . "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

The original House version:

  • Southern Democrats: 7–87   (7–93%)
  • Southern Republicans: 0–10   (0–100%)
  • Northern Democrats: 145–9   (94% –6%)
  • Northern Republicans: 138–24   (85–15%)

The Senate version:

  • Southern Democrats: 1–20   (5–95%)
  • Southern Republicans: 0–1   (0–100%)
  • Northern Democrats: 45–1   (98% –2%)
  • Northern Republicans: 27–5   (84–16%)

That's 190 Democrats voting FOR the civil rights act along with 165 Republicans. The Southern Democrats and Republicans were almost unanimous in opposition so it was all about where you were from, not what party you belonged to. And the fact is those people didn't up and move out of the South. They're still there, they just don't vote Democrat any longer. If you're continuing to claim all the "good ol' boys" flying their "rebel flag", fighting to maintain the confederate monuments, voting for a party with the fewest minority legislators. "The 94 Democrats who are minorities comprise 39% of all Democrats in Congress. That's as representative as the 38% of the U.S. population that is nonwhite Hispanic and other racial minorities. The only 16 minority Republicans represent  just 5.5% of all GOP members.". It's just what the bigoted wannabe confederate, KKK members and Neo-Nazi's who still inhabit the South want, nearly all white males in charge just like they believe is the superior form of government.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.2    8 years ago

DP, I have personally posted the information you just did at least 5 or 6 previous times on this very forum. 

Either people are in a trance or they do not understand simple facts. The idea that Republicans were "responsible " for passing the Civil Rights Act, and Democrats weren't, is one of the biggest lies that gets repeated by the right. 

In both the north and the south, a larger percentage of Democrats voted for the bill than Republicans. That is the fact, no matter how much "conservatives" try to confuse the issue. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.6  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.5    8 years ago
And now you'll tell us that Strom Thurmond was really a Republican.  

And David Duke was a democrat? Oh wait, yea, he was but democrats wouldn't vote for him so he changed parties and BAM!!!!!! He was elected right out of the gate. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.4    8 years ago
Yep.  That’s why South Carolina elected an Asian American woman as their governor and an African American congressman as their US senator in statewide elections.

I just point out the dismal 5.5% of the Republican party that is of a minority and you list two of those in the 5.5%. Bravo. Now try to actually address any of my prior post.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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4.1.9  Skrekk  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.8    8 years ago
As more members of those groups join the GOP more will run for office.

There used to be many more minorities in the GOP.    Why do you think they all left?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.2  Tacos!  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    8 years ago

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Dismayed Patriot
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4.2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tacos! @4.2    8 years ago
There's more liberal ideology today in your average conservative or Republican than there is in Democratic leadership.

Well that's just laughable on its face.

Most Liberals/progressives & Democrats support equality for all regardless of race, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, faith or lack thereof. They are open to new ideas, willing to abandon tired traditions that make no sense for todays world such as the sexism and prejudices of the past by creating more space for women, LGTBQ Americans and other minorities not only in their leadership positions, but also in the workplace and the military.

Many Conservative Republicans support inequality demanding special privileges for those of the Christian faith allowing them to discriminate in their businesses, demand that gays and women have no or limited roles in the military and they demand the right to fire any employee they find out is LGTBQ. They want to be able to put a Church on every corner but refuse to allow a Mosque anywhere near ground zero. They support what is essentially a Muslim travel ban. They are not open to new ideas but want to preserve traditions even when they are hurtful to many in the community like the confederate monuments that do nothing but glorify slavers and those who defended them. They reject the idea that women should have a right over her own body and are concerned what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedrooms with many trying to make homosexuality illegal. They can't even imagine voting for someone who wasn't Christian, and the truth is they have problems with even electing someone who isn't white, they just won't admit to it, but their representatives show that to be the case with just 5.5% of Republican legislators being diverse.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.2.3  Tacos!  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.2.2    8 years ago
Most Liberals/progressives & Democrats support equality for all regardless of race, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, faith or lack thereof.

Not true, or they would favor the elimination of affirmative action programs wherever they exist.

They are open to new ideas, willing to abandon tired traditions that make no sense for todays world

Like charter schools? Like vouchers for health care? Like fracking? Like demanding that NATO countries finally pay their fair share? Like redoing old trade deals that mainly benefit other countries? I'd say these are all new ideas that abandon tired traditions and Democrats haven't embraced any of them.

the sexism and prejudices of the past

Which largely remain in the past and were perpetrated (and later corrected) in a bipartisan manner.

by creating more space for women, LGTBQ Americans and other minorities

They have all the space they need. The narrative that this people are oppressed is bullshit spread by leftists who want to be as heroic as civil rights leaders of earlier generations. Unfortunately for their egos, they were born into the world those brave people created and they don't have any real causes to fight for.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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4.2.4  Skrekk  replied to  Tacos! @4.2.3    8 years ago
The narrative that this people are oppressed is bullshit spread by leftists who want to be as heroic as civil rights leaders of earlier generations. Unfortunately for their egos, they were born into the world those brave people created and they don't have any real causes to fight for.

That's a rather interesting and very revealing claim which speaks loudly about how you view the civil rights of LGBT folks.    Pretty much all of the civil rights progress over the past 50 years has happened despite people like you.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.2.5  Tacos!  replied to  Skrekk @4.2.4    8 years ago
the civil rights of LGBT folks . . . 

 . . . are just fine.

Pretty much all of the civil rights progress over the past 50 years has happened despite people like you.

Not at all. I support many of the achievements of the civil rights era. What you don't get is that the world is a little different than it was 50 or 100 years ago. You wish you could be at the forefront of some important civil rights movement because then you'd have a reason to be proud of yourself. But real life is thwarting you so you have to pretend that LGBT people need a champion and that you're it. They don't. And you're not.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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4.2.6  Skrekk  replied to  Tacos! @4.2.5    8 years ago
What you don't get is that the world is a little different than it was 50 or 100 years ago. 

From what I can tell it's conservatives and Christian extremists who want to return to the golden era of the Jim Crow south when businesses were free to refuse service to the minorities they hated, before that pesky Civil Rights Act interfered with southern Christian values.    But the difference today is that it's primarily LGBT folks they want to deny service to even when the law explicitly prohibits it.    Heck, the ADF hate group actually detailed that in their arguments to SCOTUS.

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the civil rights of LGBT folks . . . 
 . . . are just fine.

Only someone who was willfully ignorant could make such a claim.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.2.7  Tacos!  replied to  Skrekk @4.2.6    8 years ago
it's primarily LGBT folks they want to deny service to

What service? What is it they need that they can't have?

 
 
 
Skrekk
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4.2.9  Skrekk  replied to  Tacos! @4.2.7    8 years ago
What service? What is it they need that they can't have?

I doubt that you're actually interested about this issue but here are some recent examples which don't involve wedding cakes:

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.2.11  Tacos!  replied to  Skrekk @4.2.9    8 years ago

So, I followed your link to see the rights being denied and this is the kind of thing I found:

21 percent of trans respondents said a provider had used harsh or abusive language when they sought medical care.

ROFLMAO. Oh noes! Harsh language? That IS outrageous! And surprising, too because the trans population is well known for being so much more thick-skinned than the general population. /s

And of course it's all Trump's fault. Because Trump is in the head of every random pharmacist in the country.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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4.2.12  Skrekk  replied to  Tacos! @4.2.11    8 years ago
ROFLMAO. Oh noes! Harsh language? That IS outrageous! And surprising, too because the trans population is well known for being so much more thick-skinned than the general population. /s

Sounds like you're purposefully trivializing the kind of harm discussed which included denial of service by healthcare practitioners, denial of service by healthcare practitioners to the children of same-sex couples, violations of patient privacy by pharmacists who are Christian extremists, a rollback of civil rights protections by the Trump HHS, etc.    I'm not sure why you chose to do that unless you have some kind of anti-LGBT agenda.   Do you?    I also wonder if you can name another demographic which is regularly on the receiving end of "harsh and abusive language" from their own health care provider.

Moreover that was just a report by Human Rights Watch about discrimination in health care and didn't include things like denial of adoptions or other services.   Plus HRW isn't even in the business per se of specifically monitoring civil rights abuses against LGBT folks, at least not like HRC and other advocacy groups.    I also doubt that you followed the link to the report itself since for some reason you choose to willfully ignore these problems which the Trump regime is purposefully causing or exacerbating.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.2.13  Tacos!  replied to  Skrekk @4.2.12    8 years ago
Sounds like you're purposefully trivializing the kind of harm discussed

When you have to list "harsh language" to make a claim of a civil rights violation? Yeah, I am going to trivialize that. Cuz it's stupid.

which included denial of service by healthcare practitioners

Yeah, but this doesn't hold up under even a cursory critical examination. This alleged discrimination is self-reported by the same people breaking down in tears over harsh language, so I'd say their credibility starts off on shaky ground.

Regarding the complaints, the truth is we don't know what kind of services they were seeking or why they might have been refused. There might be good reasons. For example, maybe someone wants sexual reassignment surgery or hormone treatments, but the surgeon feels what they really need is some counseling.

Doctors tend to favor the least invasive reaction to an issue while patients tend to favor all the bells and whistles. You may want an MRI while your doctor (or your insurance company) is satisfied with the eyes and hands of your doctor. I'm straight, and my doctor doesn't do every damned thing I ask, either.

And if I get a new prescription, my pharmacist usually wants to have a chat with me about it, both for my protection and the pharmacist's. Doctors and pharmacists have to be careful about the treatments they hand out because they get sued all the time.

It's not a conspiracy and it's not discrimination. That's the world at work.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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4.2.14  Skrekk  replied to  Tacos! @4.2.13    8 years ago
When you have to list "harsh language" to make a claim of a civil rights violation? Yeah, I am going to trivialize that. Cuz it's stupid.

Really?   Does your doctor ridicule you when you seek health care or deny you health care services?

Sounds like what you're really doing is trivializing discriminatory and unethical treatment merely because it happens to a minority you think doesn't deserve full civil rights.

 
 
 
epistte
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4.2.15  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.10    8 years ago
They can’t yet compel everyone who disagrees with their lifestyle choices to service their every whim in direct violation of said religious beliefs.  They won’t feel they have their full civil rights until government gives them the right to trample upon the free excercise there of rights in the first amendment of every religious person who disagrees with their lifestyle and doesn’t want to be enslaved into participating in any way in any civil union like ceremony.

How many times do you need to be told that discrimination in public business has never been one of your religious rights? You can repeat this lie from now until Rapture but it isn't true.  You are not required to like your customers or their religious beliefs but you cannot deny them equal service because of your religious beliefs when you operate a business that is open to the public. 

 
 
 
epistte
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4.2.16  epistte  replied to  Tacos! @4.2.13    8 years ago
It's not a conspiracy and it's not discrimination. That's the world at work.

Racists said the same thing about the civil rights inequalities faced by African-Americans before the 1964 Civil Rights Act. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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4.2.19  Skrekk  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.18    8 years ago
There was no legitimate belief in racism based on biblical belief.

I doubt there's any "biblical belief" which one can plausibly claim to be legitimate since it's all superstitious nonsense anyway, but in fact the largest non-Catholic sect in the country was founded to promote slavery and white supremacy.    The Southern Baptists found all sorts of "biblical reasons" to support their racist beliefs.   Ditto for the Mormons.    And both still preach hatred of LGBT folks so only the target of their hate has shifted since those sects were founded.    Both sects are also profoundly misogynistic.

Heck, even mainstream sects like the Episcopal church were officially segregated until the late 1950s (at least), and other loony sects like the one Ben Carson belongs to are still racially segregated.

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On the other hand there is clear and obvious biblical injunctions against homosexual behavior.

It's very revealing that the exact same moronic arguments made by Christian extremists against mixed-race marriage have been recycled in recent years to be used against same-sex marriage.    Of course only idiots would find those moronic and bigoted arguments convincing in either context.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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4.2.20  Skrekk  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.17    8 years ago
We shall see what happens with the new religious liberty commission.

We already know that the ADF  was one of the anti-LGBT hate groups promoting Session's "Religious Liberty Task Force", but the reality is that it would have no impact in states like Colorado and Oregon where the civil rights of minorities are protected by law.    And the federal courts will simply ignore it.

 
 
 
epistte
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4.2.21  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.18    8 years ago
There was no legitimate belief in racism based on biblical belief.  On the other hand there is clear and obvious biblical injunctions against homosexual behavior.  No one should be compelled to aid and abet such an abomination if that’s their religious belief.  

The Bible does not in any way supersede secular law in the US because of it did we would be living in a theocracy.  The constitutional rights of others do not depend on the business owner's religious beliefs. If they cannot abide by secular law then sell the business to someone who is a bit less bigoted and superstituous.  They chose to open that business and were not forced to do so by the government, so sell if it they cannot live by the laws required of operating a business that is open to the public.

Where does Jesus tell his followers to act in this manner?

Matthew 25:40.

"And the King will say, 'I tell you the truth, when you did it to one of the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were doing it to me!'
 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.2.22  Tacos!  replied to  Skrekk @4.2.14    8 years ago
Does your doctor ridicule you when you seek health care or deny you health care services?

She might. Depends on how stupid I'm being. Who cares? What makes you think anyone is ridiculing these people? I did a search on the report you linked and the word "ridicule" (or variations on that word) does not appear in it.

Sounds like what you're really doing is trivializing discriminatory and unethical treatment

Sounds to me like you're making shit up and accepting accusations without evidence.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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4.2.23  Skrekk  replied to  Tacos! @4.2.22    8 years ago
Who cares? What makes you think anyone is ridiculing these people? I did a search on the report you linked and the word "ridicule" (or variations on that word) does not appear in it.

It's a good thing you're not in the health care profession otherwise you'd be unemployed with an attitude like that......much like the CVS pharmacist who was recently fired due to how he treated a transgender customer with extreme disrespect.    CVS probably made the 1st mistake when they hired a Christian extremist as a pharmacist.

And of course the issue isn't limited to healthcare at all.   Just in the last few weeks a married couple in Michigan were denied an adoption because they're gay by two different agencies, despite the fact that both agencies are state funded.    Even in states like Colorado which protect sexual orientation we've recently seen that bigoted Christian extremists can ignore public accommodation laws without any penalty.    Same thing with the Alaskan airline which bumped a same-sex couple to make room for an opposite-sex couple.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.2.24  Tacos!  replied to  Skrekk @4.2.23    8 years ago
much like the CVS pharmacist who was recently fired due to how he treated a transgender customer with extreme disrespect.    CVS probably made the 1st mistake when they hired a Christian extremist as a pharmacist.

You just accept any claim that suits your politics. You have no idea how this person behaved or what their religion is. It's just as likely some overly sensitive bed-wetter complained and executives reflexively fired a competent person just to avoid bad press from PC lunatics. It happens all the time.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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4.2.25  Skrekk  replied to  Tacos! @4.2.24    8 years ago
You have no idea how this person behaved or what their religion is.

I know enough about that case to know that CVS did exactly the right thing by firing the Christian extremist.    You simply can't allow these bible-babbling extremists to harass customers, violate their medical privacy and deny them service.    In fact no large company today will allow that sort of harmful and superstitious crap to interfere with the workplace.

A CVS pharmacist in Arizona was fired after he refused to fill the hormone prescription of a transgender woman.

Hilde Hall wrote a blog post  on Thursday for the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) describing how a CVS pharmacist in Fountain Hills, Ariz., refused to fill her prescription for hormone therapy in April.

“He did not give me a clear reason for the refusal,” Hall wrote. “He just kept asking, loudly and in front of other CVS staff and customers, why I was given the prescriptions.”

Hall wrote that she was “embarrassed and distressed” and almost started crying in the middle of the store.

“When I asked for my doctor’s prescription note, the pharmacist refused to give it back, so I was not even able to take it to another pharmacy to have my prescription filled,” Hall wrote. “I left the store feeling mortified.”

Hall said even her doctor’s office was unable to persuade the pharmacist to fill the prescription. It was later filled at a Walgreens pharmacy “without question.”

It was the first time she received a prescription for the hormone therapy.

“I was finally going to start seeing my body reflect my gender identity and the woman I’ve always known myself to be,” Hall wrote.

She said she has contacted CVS’s corporate complaint line multiple times but was ignored.

CVS Health apologized for the incident on Friday in a statement to The Hill. 

"CVS Health extends its sincere apologies to Ms. Hall for her experience at our pharmacy in Fountain Hills, Arizona last spring," said the statement.

CVS said the employee was fired, and added it had not responded to Hall's complaints because of "an unintentional oversight."

The pharmacist violated the company's policies and “does not reflect our values or our commitment to inclusion, nondiscrimination and the delivery of outstanding patient care,” CVS said.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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4.2.26  Skrekk  replied to  Tacos! @4.2.24    8 years ago

More here:

Ms Hall said she had filed a complaint with the Arizona State Board of Pharmacy. She asked the company to make it clear to their employees, through training and written policies, that transgender people should be treated with respect.

“No one should be denied health care because of who they are," said Josh Block, a staff attorney with the ACLU.

He added: "No one should have to experience what Hilde did, and yet it is all too common for transgender people and people seeking prescriptions for reproductive health care around the country."

A 2011 report from the National Centre for Transgender Equality found widespread discrimination against transgender and gender nonconforming people in the medical field.

One-fifth of the more than 6,000 people surveyed said they been refused medical care due to their gender identity, with even higher numbers among people of colour. Nearly 30 per cent said they had postponed medical care when they were sick or injured due to discrimination.

“Participants in our study reported barriers to care whether seeking preventive medicine, routine and emergency care, or transgender-related services,” the authors wrote at the time.

“These realities, combined with widespread provider ignorance about the health needs of transgender and gender non-conforming people, deter them from seeking and receiving quality health care.”

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Note that this is one of the areas of protection under the ACA which the Trump regime has been trying to dismantle.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.2.27  Tacos!  replied to  Skrekk @4.2.25    8 years ago

Yeah I got all that. I stand by what I wrote before. I suggest you go back and read it.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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4.2.28  Skrekk  replied to  Tacos! @4.2.27    8 years ago
I stand by what I wrote before.

Yes, it's quite clear where you stand.   LOL.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    8 years ago

Dennis Prager is a pseudo intellectual (thus the existence of conservative propaganda videos characterized by Prager as "Prager University").  

For 250 years there was unabated slavery of Africans in the U.S. For another hundred years after that it was legal to discriminate based on race in the United States. From 1620 until 2018 is just about 400 years. For 7/8 of those 400 years it was legal to either own or discrimate against blacks or other racial minorities. People like Prager want to forget about the residue of those 400 years, which exists today as racism. 

But even so, he wants to brag about how committed to equality America is. That didnt happen because of people like Dennis Prager, it happened because of civil rights activists in the 1950's and 1960's, and native American rights activists and Latino rights activists and womens rights activists. 

Dennis Prager, were legal discrimation based on race ethnicity or gender still in effect today, would be fine with and would STLL be saying that America is the least racist and sexist country of all time. His comments are self-congratulatory and not based on reality. 

When Africans come here it is not only because they think the US is not racist, it is for educational and work opportunities that do not exist in their home countries. 

A few years one of my first cousins daughters got married. The girl was white. The groom was a black as coal recent immigrant from Africa. She had met him at some work related conference in another state.  When they got married, the groom's family traveled from Africa just to attend this wedding. I am talking about 15-20 people who came from Africa to Chicago for this wedding.   I regret having to say there were a noticeable number of the bride's family who did not show up, including my own brother and his children. Which was a little odd since the church was a block from their house. Some things have changed concerning race, and some havent. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.1  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @5    8 years ago
For 250 years there was unabated slavery of Africans in the U.S.

For crying out loud, a 5th grader knows that the U.S. is not 250 years old. Don't try to blame all the traditions of the human race on the United States.

It was the United States that undid the injustices of millennia. And we did it on our own, without having to be forced either by rebellion from within or military force from without. We have a legal system and a uniquely American set of values that have fundamentally transformed not only this land but much of the rest of the world. We have managed to undo in a couple of centuries traditions that were taken for granted for thousands of years. America is a beacon of liberty and justice unlike anything the world has ever seen.

The beautiful thing is that most of the rest of the world sees and understands these facts. That is why more people consistently want to migrate to America than anywhere else. It's why we have immigration crises other countries can't even comprehend. The only people that can't see these truths are the self-loathing leftists who already live in America.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.1.2  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @5.1    8 years ago

I am sure the people of Rome said the same things.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.2  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @5    8 years ago
When Africans come here it is not only because they think the US is not racist, it is for educational and work opportunities that do not exist in their home countries. 

If America were so racist, those educational and work opportunities wouldn't be available for Africans.

 
 
 
Ender
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6  Ender    8 years ago

Haaha. The source of this blog is the Heritage foundation.

Where do they come up with this shit?

Right now I could go up to 20 people and ask them what they think of black people. I could not even say here what their answers would be.

Denying racism does not mean that it does not exist.

Saying that there is only one ethnicity and/or culture in the US is also denying reality. There is more than one ethnicity and many cultures.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.3  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @6    8 years ago
Right now I could go up to 20 people and ask them what they think of black people.

Do it. I dare you. Report back with real answers. But don't declare that America is full of racists just because of your feels.

Denying racism does not mean that it does not exist.

Wow. Reading Comprehension Fail or Strawman? Choose one. Prager didn't deny that racism exists. He said that America was the least racist country.

Saying that there is only one ethnicity and/or culture in the US is also denying reality.

Wow, are you even trying to engage with the posted material or are you just talking to yourself? He didn't say there was one ethnicity in the US. He said,

There is no American ethnicity, it’s American values

Seriously, you're not even close to absorbing what he actually said and considering it.

 
 
 
Ender
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6.3.2  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @6.3    8 years ago

I did read this drivel.

Typical leftist bad and we will fight against them bullshit.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.3.3  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @6.3.2    8 years ago
I did read this drivel.

But you can't explain why it's drivel.

 
 
 
Ender
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6.3.5  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @6.3.3    8 years ago

Uh, I did in the same comment.

 
 
 
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7  MrFrost    8 years ago
US Is ‘Least Racist, Least Xenophobic Country’ In History, Prager Says

I believe this to be true, but, our president is the most racist and most xenophobic president in history. Walls, shitting on our allies, (while kissing up to dictators), and the whole, "there were good people on both sides" BS... Yea, trump is not aligned with what the USA currently is, not even close. 

 
 
 
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7.1  Skrekk  replied to  MrFrost @7    8 years ago

It's also rather amusing that HA is citing a known bigot who hates Muslims and LGBT folks.    I wonder if Prager is really complaining that there's not enough dumb bigots who support his views against minorities?

Prager also has a bad habit of sponsoring racist tripe like the one discussed here:

 
 
 
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7.1.2  Skrekk  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.1    8 years ago

I can see why you, Prager and the KKK fear the SPLC.

 
 
 
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7.1.4  Skrekk  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.3    8 years ago
The SPLC has lost all credibility with many folks.

LOL......I don't think the SPLC ever had any credibility with most right wingers for rather obvious reasons.    Neither do other civil rights groups like the ACLU, FFRF, AU, etc.

 
 
 
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7.1.7  Skrekk  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.6    8 years ago
Well, as long as you think the SPLC is still "credible"...…………...

Right.......they've got just one misattribution in over 45 years of work, yet right wingers have been whining about the organization ever since it was founded.

Me thinks you protest too much.

 
 
 
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7.1.10  Skrekk  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.9    8 years ago
'About 60 Organizations' Are Considering a Lawsuit Against the SPLC Following $3M Nawaz Settlement

LOL.....All kinds of Christian-based hate groups from the KKK to the FRC to the ADF can't stand the fact that the SPLC and other civil rights groups properly identify them as hate groups and monitor their activities.

No surprise that many of those hate groups are closely associated with or run by members of the Southern Baptist sect.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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7.1.12  Skrekk  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.11    8 years ago
You know, just because the SPLC claims something doesn't make it true, right?

The SPLC fully documents their claims and almost all the stuff about these hate groups has been widely reported by the MSM and is pretty well known by anyone who doesn't have their head stuck in the sand.    For example it was rather amusing that you cited the "Alliance Defending Freedom" given its history of working against the civil rights of LGBT folks both in the US and in other countries (where it's actually lobbied for the criminalization of homosexuality).    What does that say about your views?    No wonder you hate the SPLC.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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7.1.14  Skrekk  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.13    8 years ago
Seems pretty damn weird to me that they would turn around and pay anyone some $3 million plus for something they fully documented. Why would the SPLC give away that much money to someone who was fully documented to be a hate group?

Feel free to look into that case if you like.    I think the SPLC had legitimate reasons for thinking that  Nawaz was preaching Islamophobia but I can see why he disagreed.    Not everything is black & white or simplistic despite what most right wingers think.   Also note that the SPLC has gone above and beyond their duty here since no lawsuit was ever filed and the SPLC would likely have prevailed anyway, but instead they're staying true to their mission by issuing an apology and financially contributing to his cause.

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So now you claim that the SPLC fully documents their claims.

They do, both for Nawaz and for the hate groups they research.    Here's what they found about the ADF hate group which you like (more details at the links):

Founded by some 30 leaders of the Christian Right, the Alliance Defending Freedom is a legal advocacy and training group that has:

ADF also works to develop “religious liberty” legislation and case law that will allow the denial of goods and services to LGBT people on the basis of religion. Despite its regular defamation of LGBT people, the group has managed to win special advisory status at the United Nations, in the European Union, and with the Organization of American States. Since the election of President Donald Trump, the ADF has become one of the most influential groups informing the administration’s attack on LGBT rights working with an ally in Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

In Its Own Words

“The only surprise is the rapidity with which this degradation of our human dignity has occurred. It has occurred, with raging effect, and within twelve months, on the heels of government mandated recognition of same-sex ‘marriage’ – an oxymoronic institution if ever there was one. And, for its radical adherents, this has led to a deification of deviant sexual practices. It has further resulted in the inevitable and aggressive persecution of devout Christians who refuse to bow to the false god of sexual license.”

—ADF-affiliated attorney Charles LiMandri, “The Tyranny of Made-Up Sexual Identities, 2015

“The endgame of the homosexual legal agenda is unfettered sexual liberty and the silencing of all dissent.”

—ADF Senior Counsel Erik Stanley at the Gospel, Homosexuality, and the Future of Marriage conference, 2014

“Alliance Defending Freedom seeks to recover the robust Christendomic theology of the 3rd, 4th, and 5th centuries. This is catholic, universal orthodoxy and it is desperately crucial for cultural renewal. Christians must strive to build glorious cultural cathedrals, rather than shanty tin sheds.”

—Blackstone Legal Fellowship website, 2014

"When given the same choice the Supreme Court of the United States had in Lawrence vs. Texas , the Indian Court did the right thing. India chose to protect society at large rather than give in to a vocal minority of homosexual advocates. … America needs to take note that a country of 1.2 billion people has rejected the road towards same-sex marriage, and understood that these kinds of bad decisions in the long run will harm society."

—Benjamin Bull, executive director of ADF Global, on the recriminalization of homosexuality in India, 2013

“[C]ontrol of the educational system is central to those who want to advance the homosexual agenda. By its very nature, homosexual acts are incapable of bearing fruit – indeed, strictly speaking, they are not sexual, as they are incapable of being generative or procreative. Thus there is the need to desensitize and corrupt young minds, both to undermine resistance to the agenda and for recruitment among those that are at an emotionally vulnerable stage of development.”

— Then-senior ADF Legal Counsel (Global) Piero Tozzi, speaking at the World Congress of Families gathering in Madrid, Spain, 2012

“And in the course of the now hundreds of cases the Alliance Defense Fund has now fought involving this homosexual agenda, one thing is certain: there is no room for compromise with those who would call evil ‘good.’”

—Alan Sears, speaking at the World Congress of Families gathering in Madrid, Spain, 2012

“The government should promote and encourage strong families. When school officials have to choose between protecting children in those families or furthering the homosexual agenda, the choice is obvious: protecting our children comes first.”

—Austin Nimocks, then-ADF senior counsel opposing a “Welcoming Schools” curriculum, 2008

“In the end, those who profess to be ‘gay’ or ‘lesbian,’ or who have otherwise slipped in and out of homosexual behavior, including ‘cruising’ for anonymous partners, are people who succumb to a dangerous temptation.”

—Austin Nimocks, then-ADF senior counsel, writing at TownHall.com, 2007

“As the homosexual agenda continues to sexualize our culture, other once-forbidden behaviors are exalted as just more alternative lifestyles. The result is that the well-being of millions of children is at risk, along with the right of parents to protect their children from sexual exploitation.”

—Alan Sears and Craig Osten, The Homosexual Agenda: Exposing the Principal Threat to Religious Freedom Today , 2003

“We mention the new promotion of pedophilia in the context of talking about the influence of homosexual behavior on college campuses, because, despite all objections to the contrary, the two are often intrinsically linked.”

—Alan Sears and Craig Osten, The Homosexual Agenda: Exposing the Principal Threat to Religious Freedom Today , 2003

“The issue under rational-basis review is not whether Texas should be concerned about opposite-sex sodomy, but whether it is reasonable to believe that same-sex sodomy is a distinct public health problem. It clearly is.”

—ADF attorney Glen Lavy, counsel of record, amicus brief, Lawrence v. Texas , 2003

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More here:

The designation is a result of ADF’s propagation of known falsehoods about LGBT people over the years (including the conspiracy theory that there is a “homosexual agenda” or “homosexual legal agenda” to undermine “the family” and Christianity), its demonization of LGBT people, its support of criminalization of gay sex in the U.S. and abroad and its continued attempts to create state and local policies and legislation (so-called “religious liberty” laws) that allow Christians to deny goods and services to LGBT people in the public sphere and marginalize LGBT students in schools.

The SPLC does not name groups to its anti-LGBT hate list simply for having biblical objections to homosexuality or for opposing same-sex marriage.

2000:

  • The ADF helps fund and strategize the filing of key amicus (friend of the court) briefs on behalf of the Boy Scouts of America in Dale v. Boy Scouts of America , in which a gay assistant Scoutmaster sued the BSA for expelling him because of its ban on gay members and leaders. ADF also funds moot court training in which the Boy Scouts’ attorney “practiced making his case under intense questioning by top attorneys.” In the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in this case, the court affirmed that the Scouts could bar gay boys and men from its membership and leadership, a decision ADF applauded on the basis of “free speech.”

2001 - 2010:

    • Claims on its website that “attacks on family values include efforts to allow practicing homosexuals to adopt children and foster parents;” and “allow practicing homosexuals to serve openly in the military.” ADF vows to oppose these attacks because “ weakening the family and undermining the values that support it will ultimately destroy our society ” and impact religious civil liberties. ( 2001 , 2003 , 2004 , 2005 , 2006 , 2007 , 2008 , 2009 , 2010 )

2003: 

  • Alan Sears, then-president of ADF (he was president until January, 2017) publishes a book he co-wrote with then-ADF colleague Craig Osten titled The Homosexual Agenda: Exposing the Principal Threat to Religious Freedom Today , which was heavily advertised for sale on the ADF website and offered in fundraising pitches for years. The book is the authors’ attempt to describe how far the conspiracy of “the homosexual agenda” has infiltrated the country and undermined Christianity through things like media and educational institutions. Sears and Osten described the media campaign conducted by LGBT activists in the 70s and 80s (as summarized in the account After The Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90s ) to " a war of propaganda ,  just as Hitler did so masterfully in Nazi Germany ." ( p. 27 ) “An entire book could be written on the subject of the entertainment industry’s promotion of homosexual behavior, but it is our goal to give you a brief overview of each subject so that you understand the number of cultural fronts in which the homosexual agenda is being pushed.” ( p. 44 ) The authors ask, “ How far down the road have homosexual activists taken us to their goal of unbridled sexual behavior and the silencing of the church? ” ( p. 14 )  “ The very future of our nation is at risk if the homosexual agenda continues to advance unchecked ,” ( p. 27 ) the authors state. 

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Of course you would have known all of that if you had done your own research and weren't biased.

 
 
 
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7.1.16  Skrekk  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.15    8 years ago
If the SPLC thought it had a CHANCE at prevailing in a lawsuit, no way would they have settled out of court.

I'm saying they thought being right was more important than the money.   There's no way Nawaz would have prevailed in court since the SPLC merely gave their own opinion of what Nawaz himself had said.    Opinions aren't actionable despite what the Trump regime and its supporters think.

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And since the SPLC documented everything--your words--why would they turn around and donate to a hate group?

As I said feel free to do your own research into the case; you quite obviously have not done so.    The SPLC has admitted they made a mistake but I'm sure you can find the internet archive of the SPLC where they documented what Nawaz said.     And it is rather revealing that you're whining about just one error since they were founded in 1971.    Your priorities and your agenda are clearly skewed.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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7.1.18  Skrekk  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.15    8 years ago
They screwed up big time, and the pay-off is the proof.

Let's put it this way......virtually every other "out of court settlement" includes a statement that the payer is not admitting fault or assuming any liability.    Plus those settlements usually occur AFTER a lawsuit has been filed.

In this case no lawsuit was ever filed and the SPLC still fully admitted that they erred and they issued a credible apology.   To me that speaks volumes about the ethics of the organization and I can see why you and other right wingers hate it.

 
 
 
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7.1.20  Skrekk  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.19    8 years ago
Either the SPLC made a mistake, after having 'documented" everything, or they did NOT make a mistake. Which is it?

Yet more proof that the vast majority of right wingers have a simplistic black & white view of the world.    Maybe you should investigate the case before you make another comment which reveals that you're obsessed about one mistake in the many thousands of cases which the SPLC has taken on?

One thing that's clear is that Trump and the GOP would never do what the SPLC did and admit they made an error.

 
 
 
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7.1.22  Skrekk  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.21    8 years ago

I'm sure that Trump and the GOP hate the SPLC, ACLU and other civil rights advocates with equal passion.   Your views are no surprise in that regard at all......you're focused on one small error and ignore the huge body of great work that they've done.   No doubt that's because you're a straight white conservative Christian male from Texas.

 
 
 
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7.1.24  Skrekk  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.23    8 years ago
Trump isn't the topic. Nor are MY beliefs--which you know nothing of. You should refrain from telling me what I believe in.

I think you've expressed your views quite clearly given that you fret about one error the SPLC made while you simultaneously treat hate groups like the ADF as credible.

Are all Texas conservatives like you?

 
 
 
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7.1.26  Skrekk  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.25    8 years ago

Still, the SPLC and my views are not the topic here.

You're the one who unwittingly  exposed your odious views by whining about the SPLC.    All I did was cite their page which documents Prager's racist, homophobic, transphobic and Islamophobic views.     A bit ironic given the seed don't you think?    It's exactly like David Duke claiming the US is the least racist country in the world.

 
 
 
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7.1.28  Skrekk  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.27    8 years ago
Why did you bring the SPLC into the conversation anyways? To divert?

My comment was directly on topic.   You're the one who whined about it and thus exposed yourself.

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In your view, what other countries in the history of the world has been less racist and xenophobic than we are now?

Canada quite obviously.    They're rather embarrassed by how xenophobic and racist the US has become under Trump.     Same with the EU, and unlike the US they have a good reason to be off their game since they're handling all the refugees caused by the recent wars the US started.......something which the US takes no responsibility for.

 
 
 
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7.1.30  Skrekk  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.29    8 years ago

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Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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8  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו    8 years ago

White man asks black man if there's racism in this country and, SURPRISE, black man reassures white man that no way is there any racism in this country.  NO WAY.  And no way would a black shoe-shine man tell a white man something the white man wanted to hear.  Oh, that never happens in this "never-racist-and-not-in-any-way-racist now USA." 

That you people could still be pushing this bilge when our our "lyin'" eyes and ears see and hear white nationalists flying the emblem of slavery and calling the statues of slave owners "their culture" and proud nazis on the march should explain why you get such well-deserved ridicule. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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8.1  Skrekk  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @8    8 years ago

I guess it's a sign of social progress that most right wingers no longer like to be exposed as being racist.   They used to be darn proud of it but now they tell themselves fairytales about not being racist while simultaneously advocating policies with a racist intent......like excusing cops who shoot unarmed black folks, and enacting laws which make it much harder for marginalized demographics to vote.

 
 
 
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8.1.2  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1.1    8 years ago
It is the progressive left that is racist, segregationist, and following separatist identity politics. Not conservatives or historical liberalism.  

I'm sure that's why the majority of minorities are dem's...We must love racist and segregation. Of course your comment defies logic. 

 
 
 
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8.1.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1.1    8 years ago
It is the progressive left that is racist, segregationist, and following separatist identity politics. Not conservatives or historical liberalism.  

Gad, that's pathetic.  I don't think even you really believe that.  It's just one of your pre-programmed automatic BS responses. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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12  igknorantzrulz    8 years ago

the "American people" are behind Trump

the wons that are are truly lindosers , who should be left behind such a one of a kind loser of a behind

 
 

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