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Trump claims picture ID is required to buy groceries

  

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Via:  johnrussell  •  8 years ago  •  76 comments

Trump claims picture ID is required to buy groceries

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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/399806-trump-falsely-claims-id-is-required-to-buy-groceries

President Trump on Tuesday made the claim that a photo ID is required to buy groceries as part of his argument for introducing stricter voter ID laws.

“You know if you go out and you want to buy groceries, you need a picture on a card,” he said. “You need ID.”

The president made the comment while speaking at a campaign rally in Florida in support of GOP Rep. Ron DeSantis’ gubernatorial bid.  It came as he was pushing for stronger voter ID laws, pointing to other instances where an American would need to show identification.

Social media users were quick to jump on Trump's comment, with many suggesting that he has not purchased his own groceries in many years.

Voting rights groups have challenged a series of state voter ID laws, arguing that they are intended to suppress voter turnout among minority populations.

Republicans have fought for stronger voter ID laws, saying that they are necessary to prevent voter fraud.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    8 years ago

I'm going to partially , but only partially defend trump on this one. When you really think about it he is really undermining his own argument. 

I assume Trump intends to say that when you use plastic to buy your groceries you have to show picture ID.  In theory that may be true. In practice very few retailers require someone to show picture ID when they use a credit or debit card. I would estimate out of the last 100 times I have used a debit or credit card  I was asked to show ID maybe once. 

At the grocery store the clerk likely recognizes you as a repeat customer and wouldn't think of asking you for ID. 

At the polling place the election judges may recognize you as a neighbor or someone they have see around the neighborhood, or recognize you from the last time you voted. They are confident you are who you say you are. 

As usual Trump's points are either wrong or pointless. Retailers don't ask for "photo id" in the vast percentage of transactions. 

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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1.1  GaJenn78  replied to  JohnRussell @1    8 years ago

I didn't think about having to show ID when paying with credit, I know I have before. I was thinking he meant "if you go out.....", you would drive and need ID for that.  Hell, I don't know, but thats how I read it. 

 
 
 
Ender
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1.2  Ender  replied to  JohnRussell @1    8 years ago

Almost every place I go to has a box to swipe your card. No one has asked me for an id.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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1.3  SteevieGee  replied to  JohnRussell @1    8 years ago

I doubt that Trump has ever shopped for groceries. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.3.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  SteevieGee @1.3    8 years ago
doubt that Trump has ever shopped for groceries. 

he shops for wives more often than groceries

 
 
 
lady in black
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2  lady in black    8 years ago

Totally clueless

 
 
 
luther28
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3  luther28    8 years ago

Now, now boys and girls. I believe Mr. Trump may be due a free pass on this one as it is unlikely that He  has ever actually made a purchase of groceries and is unfamiliar with the actual process.

Okay, the defense rests, boy what an idiot He is!

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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4  Galen Marvin Ross    8 years ago

 
 
 
bugsy
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5  bugsy    8 years ago

The President did not clarify what he meant by "groceries" and he does not have to. Cigarettes, alcohol and some over the counter medication are considered "groceries" and require an ID to purchase.

Of course, most sane people would have just skimmed over this, said meh, and moved on, but no, we have to get another of the seeders "HE LIED" seeds. Kinda sad, really...

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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5.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  bugsy @5    8 years ago

Yep, keep apologizing for the moron and, chief.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @5.1    8 years ago

Where did I apologize?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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5.1.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  bugsy @5.1.1    8 years ago
Where did I apologize?

Here,

The President did not clarify what he meant by "groceries" and he does not have to. Cigarettes, alcohol and some over the counter medication are considered "groceries" and require an ID to purchase.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @5.1.2    8 years ago

I don't think it's that difficult to figure out what trump meant, and it had nothing to do with liquor or cigarettes. He was saying that people nowadays pay for groceries with plastic debit or credit cards , which is quite often true. Where he was wrong is in saying that people are required to show ID to use those cards. They are not. It is RARE for a grocery clerk to ask to see someones ID, just as it is rare in any retail situation. 

We all know this , except apparently Donald Trump. Most everything he buys such as flowers or whatever is almost certainly done over the phone, by an assistant. 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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5.1.4  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.3    8 years ago
We all know this , except apparently Donald Trump. Most everything he buys such as flowers or whatever is almost certainly done over the phone, by an assistant. 

I'm reminded of the old series, "Lifestyles of the Rich and, Famous", the host of the show was interviewed one time and, asked what it was like following one of the rich around, he told a story of one time when he went into a jewelry store with one of them and, saw something he liked, it didn't have a price on it but, the rich guy turned to an assistant and, said, "Buy that" and, walked on, the host of the show said, "People that rich don't carry any money, their assistants do."

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @5.1.4    8 years ago

There was a tv show one time that showed Michael Jackson in an antique shop. He just pointed at stuff that he wanted and the owner wrote the items down. They never discussed price, at least not on the show. 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
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5.1.6  livefreeordie  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @5.1.4    8 years ago

My sister refuses to use a debit card so she writes checks when she buys her groceries and is required to show ID.   I still see many older people do the same

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.7  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  livefreeordie @5.1.6    8 years ago

thats nice. thats not what trump meant though

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.1.8  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  livefreeordie @5.1.6    8 years ago
  I still see many older people do the same

trump might shop the same store, But, I rarely see anyone write a check these days in a grocery stores its all either plastic or cash where I shop.

Also, I really doubt trump shops much in grocery stores.

IMO: This is just like some other stuff he says that he doesn't know much about....   Funny and slightly out of touch.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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5.1.9  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  livefreeordie @5.1.6    8 years ago
My sister refuses to use a debit card so she writes checks when she buys her groceries and is required to show ID.

I'm sixty-two, I use either cash or, my debit card and, I've never been IDed at the store.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
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5.1.10  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.7    8 years ago

How do you know that.  What is your evidence

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @5    8 years ago
Cigarettes, alcohol and some over the counter medication are considered "groceries" and require an ID to purchase.

LOL. Holy Jesus, please spare us endless nonsense. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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5.3.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3    8 years ago

must have a "special" ebt card

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.3.2  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3    8 years ago

So, instead of insults, how about proving I am wrong? Because you can't.  And never have.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.3.3  bugsy  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.3.1    8 years ago

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igknorantzrulz
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5.3.4  igknorantzrulz  replied to  bugsy @5.3.3    8 years ago
monthly email asking me to buy your EBT card 50 cents on the dollar. I'll do it for 60, mmmm k?

mmmm k? ?

That kind of reply Blows Me

away, as if I wouldn't B the 1st

whose sloppy 2nds, turn to minute minutes, when popped in  their  four a third time while drawing a pentagram of the Pentagone wild, like grandmas, on Acid, trippin over their granny panties while piering through seven story windows, ate stories high, nine times a day, in tenths of a 12th, made N2O 13, by a Happy N Gay Baker, Dozen that sound dreamy, and all filled with creamy...?

 
 
 
sixpick
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5.3.5  sixpick  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3    8 years ago
LOL. Holy Jesus, please spare us endless nonsense.

Why?  All I see coming out of the left every day is endless nonsense.  Unemployment is at record lows.  The job reports are looking great.  How many months has Kim Jong Un not sent a missile over Japan?  The Dow is at historical highs.  The GDP is at 4.1 even though the Left's economists said the world would be in a never ending recession if Trump got elected.  The Chinese are saying they are really impressed with Trump and gave him the red carpet to exit Air Force One, while they didn't even give Obama a carpet at all.  And after all of this and much more all I see out of the Left is endless nonsense.  Seed an article about something good Trump has done.  It would be good therapy.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.3.6  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  sixpick @5.3.5    8 years ago
Why?

Because what goes up must come down. When trump learns more about details I'll perhaps have a little more trust in what he does.

IMO: The presidents instantaneous zero border policy implementation mess was a fair indication of lack of planning, organizing, oversight and resources. 

I expect more of the same in other areas IF trump doesn't start paying more attention to details. 

Even trump should understand a house built with out a proper foundation will eventually topple. Details count !

BTW: I'm an independent, neither party gets my power anymore.

 
 
 
sixpick
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5.3.7  sixpick  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @5.3.6    8 years ago

But Steve, the "Catch and Release" wasn't such a great idea either.  Having someone come into the country and sign a paper and disappear only to be caught later on when there are 3 more children and that person is in the country illegally and guilty of some crime leaves the children behind and everyone gets in an uproar about it.  May as well just put a "Welcome" sign up. 

You see the predicament.  One separates the children while the other doesn't.  The border patrol have time to determine who the person is before turning that person loose in this country, then that person is legal and "Catch and Release" doesn't have the time to determine even if that person is the real parent or a criminal, but turns that person loose in this country and removes them from the country after they have children born in this country at some future date when caught during criminal activity.

Also "Catch and Release" has allowed child traffickers to carry that child or children away from any protection they may have gotten if things were different.  It's a catch 22.  Let the children with their so-called parent or parents free with a promise to return for court or make sure when you set them free, you're not letting a criminal and possibly a child trafficker free.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.3.8  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  sixpick @5.3.7    8 years ago
"Catch and Release" wasn't such a great idea either

I agree, However my point is the lack of planning and organizing of trump’s plan was disastrous.

That is very telling about how trump’s lack of detailed planning of details comes back to bite him and now US in the ass. I don’t expect this will be the last time trumps inattentiveness to details screws up what he is trying to accomplish.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.3.9  bugsy  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.3.4    8 years ago

Huh? Can you repost that so all of us can understand?

 
 
 
luther28
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5.4  luther28  replied to  bugsy @5    8 years ago

I do not believe He lied, He's just plain stupid and uninformed.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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6  It Is ME    8 years ago

When you write a check for your groceries, which I have seen happen many times standing in the grocery line, you are required to show I.D..

TRUMP WAS RIGHT !

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @6    8 years ago

Define "many"

laughing dude

 
 
 
It Is ME
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6.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    8 years ago

Self explanatory !

I give you as much info as the "Media" gives us. Deal with it !

laughing dude

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @6.1.1    8 years ago

Before debit cards there may have been some people writing checks for groceries. No more. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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6.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.2    8 years ago
No more.

You need to get out more !

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @6.1.3    8 years ago

I go grocery shopping as much as anyone else does. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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6.1.5  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.4    8 years ago
I go grocery shopping as much as anyone else does. 

DEFINE "AS MUCH" !

laughing dude

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.7  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.2    8 years ago

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There are plenty of elderly who do not trust the electronic way of purchase and still use checks.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @6.1.7    8 years ago

Gee whiz, someone is frazzled. 

I havent seen anyone write a check in a supermarket in years. Are there ANY? Yeah there probably are any, but that practice ended for all practical purposes when the debit card was introduced. 

The lengths desperate people will go to in order to defend trump are amazing. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.9  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.8    8 years ago

By the way, Trump didnt say people could write checks in a grocery store if they desired, he said that picture id is REQUIRED in order to buy groceries. 

 
 
 
Ender
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6.1.10  Ender  replied to    8 years ago

Checks have your numbers on them too.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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6.1.11  bbl-1  replied to  It Is ME @6.1.5    8 years ago

Please define, 'As Little.'

 
 
 
bbl-1
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6.1.12  bbl-1  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.2    8 years ago

False.  I bought groceries today---paid with check.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.13  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bbl-1 @6.1.12    8 years ago

You are the exception then. 

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.16  epistte  replied to    8 years ago

Most stores electronically print the check at the register and you only have to sign it.

 
 
 
Ender
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6.1.17  Ender  replied to    8 years ago

They have the routing number for your bank account.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
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6.1.18  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.8    8 years ago

My sister refuses to use a debit card so she writes checks when she buys her groceries and is required to show ID.   I still see many older people do the same

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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7  dave-2693993    8 years ago

The last time I used a credit card to purchase something at a store and was asked for my ID was pre great "recession". Later the cashier confessed she just wanted my ID info.

Later after my ex maxed out all the credit cards then later panicked and left from being stressed out by the struggling business and financial situation. Hell, we were both stressed out. Whatever.

Switched to debit cards. The only time I have been asked for Id has been while sending money via Western Union or the flaky MoneyGram outfit. These days the folks at WU know I am me. No more ID checks.

Never ID checked while buying groceries. Never,

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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7.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  dave-2693993 @7    8 years ago
Never ID checked while buying groceries. Never,

so Trump just telling the truth as usual then

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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7.1.1  dave-2693993  replied to  igknorantzrulz @7.1    8 years ago

"Looks like it".

Then again, and this applies to every politician out there as far as I am concerned, is it lying, or stupidity? Really, which is worse?

I don't know?

Really, these days my opinion is they are all either stupid in their own way or lie in their own way and some lies are more obvious than others. All they care about is ideology and only jump on causes if an immediate political gain can be had,

JMO

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  dave-2693993 @7.1.1    8 years ago
Really, these days my opinion is they are all either stupid in their own way or lie in their own way and some lies are more obvious than others.

So Trump is no better and no worse than other politicians, he's just one of a very similar crowd. Is that what you are trying to say? 

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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7.1.3  dave-2693993  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.2    8 years ago
Is that what you are trying to say? 

I am not trying to say anything. I actually said this:

Really, these days my opinion is they are all either stupid in their own way or lie in their own way and some lies are more obvious than others.

Our political system is in trouble and that trouble did not begin in November of 2016. Several decades, quite a few administrations and many sessions of Congress have taken us to where we are now.

We have an obvious problem at the head of our government right now. Is this problem any more insidious than those that brought us to this point, in their less obvious ways?

Really, ideology and selfish gains. Core problems.

JMO

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  dave-2693993 @7.1.3    8 years ago

There very well may be problems other than Donald Trump. He is still the problem at hand. He's not qualified to be president of the United States and everyone knows it. For ulterior motives they deny. 

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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7.1.5  dave-2693993  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.4    8 years ago

If we are going to focus on a single person as the problem at hand, we are never going to address the real problem, which has a larger scope.

How did we get to the point where this current person was able to get to the position he is in? I am not talking about the EC. Rather us as a people and political system in general. We are on a ride that appears to create greater polarity each time around.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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7.1.6  Skrekk  replied to  dave-2693993 @7.1.5    8 years ago
How did we get to the point where this current person was able to get to the position he is in?

I think it has a lot to do with the GOP's marriage to the bible-babblers in reaction against the Civil Rights Act and Roe v Wade.    While the GOP started to decline after the New Deal the real precipitous change happened later.....like with their racist Southern Strategy.    It says a lot about the state of the GOP today that Trump won their nomination.    From what I can tell they're a reincarnation of the Know Nothing Party and the GOP will likely suffer the same fate.

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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7.1.7  dave-2693993  replied to  Skrekk @7.1.6    8 years ago

Okay, good.

We have just now panned back to a wider subset which comes across as ideology.

The person is probably the smallest subset. Ideology is a much larger subset, yet it needs to be fueled.

Many things can be the fuel source. We have had propaganda for a long time and emotion for a long time, yet it seems money has become a bigger player. Lobbyists, PACS, Super PACS, etc.

Hmmm? Our oligarchs? Can't help but think of the similarities.

Greed, a very powerful, larger subset yet.

JMO

 
 
 
Skrekk
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7.1.8  Skrekk  replied to  dave-2693993 @7.1.7    8 years ago

Money in politics has been a problem here ever since the country was founded by oligarchs.    I doubt we're willing to fix that problem anyway given that the oligarchs are all across the political spectrum.

It's interesting though that while at one time the internet might have been a threat to their power, it seems the oligarchs have managed to figure out how to subvert that too.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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8  bbl-1    8 years ago

Another Trumpian yawner. 

The 'Q' people----pay attention.

 
 
 
Kavika
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9  Kavika     8 years ago

Well in Missouri we are asked for ID if we are buying specific types of groceries...Yup, it's true. 

If you purchase Tofu they ask to see if your really an American, same thing with truffles. 

I once had to show not only my drivers license but my passport. Yes, you guessed it, I bought some corn tortillas.... 

 
 
 
sixpick
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10  sixpick    8 years ago

groceries GIF

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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11  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu     8 years ago

When I ran  a residential moving company I learned the ones to watch at payment time were the well off and the real poor. Both groups sometimes seemed to have more excuses than money when the bill came due.  Go figure.

 
 

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