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Donald Trump Is Dragging Us Kicking and Screaming Into Peace and Prosperity

  

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Via:  heartland-american  •  8 years ago  •  80 comments

Donald Trump Is Dragging Us Kicking and Screaming Into Peace and Prosperity

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One might expect that the sheer volume of vitriol, hatred and “resistance” coming from the media, Hollywood elites, establishment Republicans, and various other “never-Trumpers,” would be in response to the most unfit and dangerous President we’ve ever had. Some from the aforementioned groups are probably nodding their heads in agreement already.

You would think we had a President who has exhibited open hostility to our country; who has actively worked to diminish our standing in the world, or who has tried to fundamentally change our country into a globalist, socialist state which would no longer resemble anything our Founders ever intended.

Maybe that hysteria would be warranted if we had a President who sent boatloads of cash to a foreign power that publicly vowed to destroy us with nuclear weapons; or whose administration gave 20% of our uranium to Russia (yes, Russia) for a quick political payoff.

Such hatred might be justified if we had a President who allowed the leaking of highly-classified information to other countries who are openly hostile to us, like China; or who didn’t bother to lift a finger to save our US Ambassador and three others who were savagely murdered in Libya; or who abused the power of his office to spy on and punish his political opponents. Those might be justifiable reasons for their “righteous” anger and indignation. 

Some would argue that we had just such a leader in the previous administration who, despite rhetoric to the contrary, delivered exactly those results and more. Yet, there was barely a whimper from this cadre of resistors. They protected him, covered up his bungles and betrayals and more often ignored them completely.

Now, with President Donald Trump, calls for impeachment are commonplace. We have yet to see any limit to their outrage.

Along with that has come a curious, and to some, welcome honesty about the ideology that is supported by the current Democrat Party. They are avowed socialists and have finally begun to admit it. Gone are the covert buzzwords and camouflaged slogans like: “income inequality” and “You didn’t build that!"

Part of their irrational hostility to Trump is precisely because he is pro-American and an unapologetic capitalist. That stance demands secure borders, requires peace through strength, and must nurture capitalism and industry. The supposedly non-ideological Trump has furthered that agenda with clear conviction. When we have returned to our ideological roots of less government and more freedom, prosperity has been the predictable result.

Our side has been asleep at the wheel for decades in educating the next generation about the horrific history of socialism. In fact, we know that in many classrooms, socialism has been openly promoted. Such ignorance and indoctrination has never been more on display than it is right now.    

The division of Germany after World War II is one of the best practical comparisons between these disparate ideologies. The almost 30-year contest between socialism and capitalism brought results that were dramatic and indisputable. The Communist-controlled socialism of East Germany brought poverty, despair and a wall to keep people in against their will. Capitalism brought the exact opposite. 

Today, Trump has handed us another opportunity to compare these ideologies in modern-day and practical terms. Once again, the results are incontrovertible.

Our growing prosperity is putting our stable of Never-Trumpers in a tough spot. Even the most disengaged and uninformed citizens would laugh at the notion that the last administration deserves the credit for this. Openly hoping for war and poverty rather than peace and prosperity under Trump isn’t a particularly winning message, especially in an election year—though some have actually done so like Bill Maher. About the only strategy left is to ignore, downplay, or simply refuse to report all the good news and hope Americans will hardly notice. Color me skeptical, but I don’t think that’s going to work either.

Donald Trump is dragging us kicking and screaming into peace and prosperity. Never has such success been so unwelcome by so many. For the sake of generations to come, and as he continues to succeed,  it will be just as important for roughly half of us to educate the other half about how and why it worked. 


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bbl-1
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2  bbl-1    8 years ago

"avowed socialists" and all of that too?

Trump is still embarrassing.  He even got 'snookered' by Little Rocket man. 

This thing out of The Kremlin?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.1  MrFrost  replied to  bbl-1 @2    8 years ago
This thing out of The Kremlin?

Townhall.com, so yea, pretty much. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2.2  It Is ME  replied to  bbl-1 @2    8 years ago
Trump is still embarrassing.  He even got 'snookered' by Little Rocket man.

How ?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3  MrFrost    8 years ago
Donald Trump Is Dragging Us Kicking And Screaming Into Peace And Prosperity

More like dragging us back to the 1860's. 

North Korea pulled trumps punk card. He gave NK the farm and we got nothing in return. 

Putin completely owns trump, in more ways than one. 

Trump is a pathetic, weak leader with no morals, no intelligence, no common sense and the walls are closing in on his admin, (what's left of it). 

Trump is the most worthless president in history. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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3.1  It Is ME  replied to  MrFrost @3    8 years ago
Putin completely owns trump, in more ways than one. 

Can you name a few...… in "Real World" time that is !

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu     8 years ago

who has tried to fundamentally change our country, which would no longer resemble anything our Founders ever intended?

Trump has signed roughly 4.27 executive orders in each month of his presidency through June. His predecessor, Barack Obama, signed 276 executive orders in his eight years in office, or roughly 2.9 per month. George W. Bush signed 291 orders, or slightly more than 3 per month during his two terms in office.

I doubt they intended one man to take so much power. once again trump trumps the numbers used for control.  executive orders 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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4.1  KDMichigan  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4    8 years ago
Trump has signed roughly 4.27 executive orders

I think you mean 427,

I have no problem with that, most of his EO's was turning over that piece of shit obama's EO's

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  KDMichigan @4.1    8 years ago

When a Democratic president takes over at the start of 2021 the first thing they will do is start to reverse Trump's executive orders. 

This is not the way our government is supposed to be run, but in any case , most of Trump's orders will be gone in the relatively near future. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @4.1    8 years ago
most of his EO's was turning over that piece of shit obama's EO's

Like what? I bet you cannot name even 5 EO's that Obama signed without using google. You just hate Obama for some weird reason, so naturally anything trump does, you'll like. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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4.1.3  KDMichigan  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.2    8 years ago
I bet you cannot name even 5

Right....So tell me without using left wing talking points, what Trump policies have adversely affected you?

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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4.1.4  KDMichigan  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    8 years ago
most of Trump's orders will be gone in the relatively near future. 

Yup just like that piece of shit obama's.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1.5  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  KDMichigan @4.1    8 years ago
I think you mean 427,

No it's 4.27 per month so far for trump 

and 2.9 per month for Obama's whole time 

and 3 per month for Bush during his whole time.

trump is governing by executive order more than the last two presidents that everyone bitched about writing too many executive orders. seem like congress is slowly but surely losing their power over the country and therefore we the people are losing ours as well. Guess who is more powerful than ever ? The president. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.6  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @4.1.3    8 years ago
Right....So tell me without using left wing talking points, what Trump policies have adversely affected you?

So, you couldn't come up with 5... Got it, good talk.. LOL

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.1.9  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    8 years ago
When a Democratic president takes over at the start of 2021

not happening.

trump will be re-elected easily in 2020 and then? whoever trump endorses will win in 2024 and 2028

the future is clear.

leftwingnut / progressive / anarchists are not regaining the whitehouse in any of our lifetimes.

their best days? are behind us.  it was a good run and now they are done.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1.10  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to    8 years ago
If 4.3 is your problem, 3 is not your answer.

3 sounds better than 4.3 

4.3 is current, I look for that to grow. 

What ever happened to what  we called congress ? 

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
4.1.11  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.1.5    8 years ago
the last two presidents that everyone bitched about writing too many executive orders.

the problem was not quantity, but quality.

bush and obama wrote too many executive orders that we did not like.

  trump is deleting them the only way there is to delete them... executive orders. (delete.exe)

and then redoing things right? requires even more executive orders

this is not a bad thing. it is exactly what we voted for him to do.  another promise kept.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1.12  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1.11    8 years ago
bush and obama wrote too many executive orders that we did not like.

Considering that when Bush and Obama wrote executive orders that other Americans did like them what makes trump doing it any different ?

The problem is it seems is more and more of the major decisions this country makes is now instead of being made by our representatives (congress) the decisions are being made more and more by one person. The president.

If that’s the kind of governing you’re OK with I’m not surprised people accept it as long as people are getting their wishes that’s OK with many. 

" not a bad thing. it is exactly what we voted for him to do.  another promise kept."  

Wonderful... for now eh ?  exactly what we voted for him to do I'd say ya better hope it stays that way.

Personally I think executive orders suck. One president says one thing, the next president another. That sure blows stability to hell in many industries and business, plus not mentioning our own personal rights and how they are enforced or not enforced.

Congress used to be the watch keeper , I see that slipping away quickly and executive orders are helping that to happen. Our country was designed to put We the People in charge, these days I just don’t see that as our president seemly has more and more power thru things like the executive orders.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.1.13  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.1.12    8 years ago
Considering that when Bush and Obama wrote executive orders that other Americans did like them what makes trump doing it any different ?

actually, it makes my point.  there is no difference.

some liked obama and bush eo's and some did not

some like trumps eo's and some do not

the only difference is... that was then, and this is now

 

  we voted for trump to erase the bush/obama globalist legacy

trump is just keeping his promises and there will be no apologies either.

elections have consequences.

 

cheers :)

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
4.1.14  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @4.1.4    8 years ago
Yup just like that piece of shit obama's.

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321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1.17  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1.13    8 years ago
the only difference is.

Unless you consider the number of times, which is increasing. So next time will that president need to do even more executive orders to reverse all trump did ?  An never ending escalating power source for the way of governing.

O Of Course not because trumps doing everything right.... 

We'll see, time will tell.  

IMO: O never mind...

I just dont like it when ANY ONE person has so much power over the rest of us... and the world.

BTW, WTF ever happened to congress ? 

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.1.18  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.1.17    8 years ago
So next time will that president need to do even more executive orders to reverse all trump did ?

in the foreseeable future? no president will be elected with obamas ideology.   and there is no comeback scheduled for globalists in any of our lifetimes.

what your living thru today is the terminal end of progressive / anarchist rule. and it will be 40 - 60 yrs or more before another progressive lives in the whitehouse.

BTW, WTF ever happened to congress ?

wait until after the midterms when we flush the traitors and sellouts into the gutters. congress will then codify many of trumps EO's into law

cheers :)

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1.19  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1.18    8 years ago
it will be 40 - 60 yrs or more before another progressive lives in the whitehouse.
Sorry I dont see it, unless somehow we stop having votes and electing leaders. 

So... OK...But, LOL

Yeah 40 to 50 years because the political ideology pendulum swings that slowly. NOT

Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton,  Bush, Reagan, Carter.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.1.20  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.1.19    8 years ago
Obama, Bush, Clinton,  Bush,

all globalist pricks...   and they are history my friend. along with all their bs.

 

if you think what happened in 2016 was just a normal swing in the overrton window?   think again.

an old school democrat (trump) just hijacked the gop = nothing normal there.

7 million obama voters supporting trump = nothing normal there either.

  

but I am curious to see the left run on higher taxes, fewer jobs and open borders...

if they throw in schit trade deals?  and more regulations? the left might have a winning platform...   oh.. and do not forget that carbon tax... americans love that part most of all... 

too funny :)

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1.21  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1.18    8 years ago
traitors and sellouts

Dont worry too much, many politicians (the ones you seem to call terrorists and sellouts) are walking away for now instead of chancing having their careers destroyed forever by opposing the president. Looks like the one man show is well on its way of having his way and full control. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1.22  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1.20    8 years ago
too funny....

time will tell. 

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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4.1.23  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.1.21    8 years ago
Looks like the one man show is well on its way of having his way and full control. 

yepp, trump is in control and not going away for another 6yrs.

only one problem with your statement...

trump is doing what we asked him to do. meaning, that one man show as you call it has more support than you can even imagine.

and all the advantage the left had prior to 2016 has evaporated.

remember that big, beautiful, and impenetrable, blue electoral college wall the left used to love so much??  

the wall is now red and ten feet taller

cheers  :)

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1.24  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @4.1.23    8 years ago
yepp, trump is in control and not going away
Good Luck America !!

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
4.1.25  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.1.22    8 years ago
time will tell. 

in the interest of fair play and sportsmanship, I will help the lefts spin machine one last time.

when trump says:

black and hispanic  employment is at the highest level ever in the history of our country

ask him why that is not true for white people also, and then accuse him of "putting people of color to work the fields while the whites continue to relax on welfare.

it will work.. trust me Giggle

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5  MrFrost    8 years ago

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bbl-1
Professor Silent
5.1  bbl-1  replied to  MrFrost @5    8 years ago

So, his only redeeming quality is the fact that he doesn't do 'peckers?'

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  bbl-1 @5.1    8 years ago
So, his only redeeming quality is the fact that he doesn't do 'peckers?'

Well, that we know of....laughing dude

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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5.2  KDMichigan  replied to  MrFrost @5    8 years ago

Thank you for the meme. He never said he grabbed women by the pussy.

He said if you are a star they will let you.

And then Weinstein come out and the stars actually like there pussies grabbed if it forwards there career.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @5.2    8 years ago

It's a quote of what he said. And yes, he did actually say that. Nice try. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.2.3  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.2.2    8 years ago
KD is right.  

It's a widely available quote HA. It's not disputed. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.2.5  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.2.4    8 years ago

Can you read what is posted in the picture I posted? That's what he said, jesus, this isn't rocket science. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.3  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  MrFrost @5    8 years ago

Add to the list ?

sarc

 
 
 
arkpdx
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6  arkpdx    8 years ago

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arkpdx
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6.1  arkpdx  replied to  arkpdx @6    8 years ago

But 5.1 and 5.1.1 were on topic and have value?  Please spare me. 

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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6.1.2  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  arkpdx @6.1    8 years ago
Please spare me.

when the left shows itself as hypocrites and we are unduly censored as result??

that is a big win  :)

 
 
 
Skrekk
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7  Skrekk    8 years ago

I wonder if Trump is the first president or presidential candidate to conspire with a hostile foreign power to thwart the will of the American people?

 
 
 
Old Hermit
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7.2  Old Hermit  replied to  Skrekk @7    8 years ago
I wonder if Trump is the first president or presidential candidate to conspire with a hostile foreign power to thwart the will of the American people?

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Well there was Nixon, who worked to stall the Peace talks with North Vietnam and there was that other sleazy candidate, Regan, with his notorious, " October Surprise" , were he worked with Iran to insure that our people weren't released until after the election. 

Now there's Trump, a third Republican.  Humm, ya think it could be a party thing?

When a Candidate Conspired With a Foreign Power to Win An Election

It took decades to unravel Nixon’s sabotage of Vietnam peace talks. Now, the full story can be told.

According to Haldeman’s notes, Kissinger alerted the Nixon campaign in late September, and again in early October, that something was up. Johnson was willing to halt the U.S. bombing of the North, and with the Soviets applying pressure on Hanoi to meet certain American conditions, the odds were never better for an early settlement of the conflict, which had already claimed 30,000 American lives and torn America apart.

Nixon had no influence in Moscow, or Hanoi. But he was not completely vulnerable to events. He had that pipeline to Saigon, where South Vietnamese President Nguyen Van Thieu and his associates feared that LBJ was selling them out. If Thieu would drag his feet, and stall the proposed peace talks, Nixon could portray Johnson’s failed peace initiative as a desperate political trick. But to do so, Nixon had to get word to Thieu, and tell him to stand firm.

Nixon’s main conduit was Chennault, the Chinese-American widow of Claire Chennault, the American aviator who led squadrons of “Flying Tigers” into battle on behalf of China against the Japanese invaders during World War II. She had many friends in the palaces of South Vietnam, nationalist China and the other pro-Western countries on the Asian rim.

Nixon also told Haldeman to have Rose Mary Woods, the candidate’s devoted secretary, contact another member of the pro-nationalist “China Lobby”—businessman Louis Kung—and have him pressure Thieu as well. She was to get Kung “going on the SVN—tell him hold firm,” Nixon ordered Haldeman.

The Nixon campaign’s sabotage of Johnson’s peace process was successful. Nine days later, Thieu’s decision to boycott the talks headlined The New York Times and other U.S. newspapers, reminding American voters of their long-harbored mistrust of the wheeler-dealer LBJ and his “credibility gap” on Vietnam. Humphrey’s momentum faded.

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Some 'October surprise' conspiracies turn out to be true

The ‘October Surprise’ Was Real, Legendary Spymaster Hints in Final Interview

 
 
 
Skrekk
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7.2.1  Skrekk  replied to  Old Hermit @7.2    8 years ago

I agree about Reagan coordinating with Iran, but don't forget that South Vietnam was not just a US ally but actually a puppet government of the US and solely dependent on the US for its survival.    So I don't think Nixon counts despite otherwise being a direct precedent for Trump's efforts to hack the DNC and corrupt the election.

It's also revealing that the acronym for Nixon's election campaign was CREEP, while Trump's was THUG.

 
 
 
Old Hermit
Sophomore Silent
7.2.2  Old Hermit  replied to  Skrekk @7.2.1    8 years ago
South Vietnam was not just a US ally but actually a puppet government of the US and solely dependent on the US for its survival.    So I don't think Nixon counts despite otherwise being a direct precedent for Trump's efforts to hack the DNC and corrupt the election.

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That's fair and well spotted.

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It's also revealing that the acronym for Nixon's election campaign was CREEP, while Trump's was THUG.

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Now that's just funny, with the added advantage of "Truth in Advertising"!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8  JohnRussell    8 years ago

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lennylynx
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8.2  lennylynx  replied to  JohnRussell @8    8 years ago

Newstalkers supports and defends Trump and his insane cult.  This will be part of its legacy forevermore.

 
 
 
lennylynx
Sophomore Silent
8.2.2  lennylynx  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.2.1    8 years ago

Hey, knock yourself out, this is the place for you!  I'm actually happy for you, HA, that you found a site that treats your crazy views as having value.  

 
 
 
lady in black
Professor Silent
9  lady in black    8 years ago
Bad week for Orange conman traitor in chief and it just keeps getting worse. Guiliani spilling the beans on a Russia planning meeting that happened 2 days before the known Russia meeting, Trumps defense went from NO COLLUSION to COLLUSION ISNT EVEN A CRIME!!, and now he got played hard by the psychopath in NK...but I thought Orange traitor in chief told us the NK nuke problem was solved.  His exquisite negotiating skills neutralized the problem. what gives?

Orange conman traitor in chief is not getting the noble prize.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10  JBB    8 years ago
Donald Trump Is Dragging Us Kicking And Screaming Into Peace And Prosperity

Translation: Prepare yourselves for more foreign wars, a HUGE RECESSION and trillion dollar deficits, again...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Expert
10.1  Kavika   replied to  JBB @10    8 years ago
Translation: Prepare yourselves for more foreign wars, a HUGE RECESSION and trillion dollar deficits, again...

For a party that was dead set against raising the deficit they are adding to it at close to a record pace. 

Watch the man behind the curtain.

 
 

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