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The Strange Journey of Omar Abdulsattar Ameen

  

Category:  News & Politics

By:  vic-eldred  •  8 years ago  •  25 comments

The Strange Journey of Omar Abdulsattar Ameen

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As incredible as it may sound, one of the founders of al-Qaeda in Iraq as well as the other terror group ISIS was captured in CA, of all places, after legally entering the country posing as a "refugee". He applied for refugee status while living in Turkey in 2012. He was "vetted" and granted refugee status in June of 2014. However, Mr Ameen didn't go directly to the US. Instead he returned to Iraq to help with the murder of a police officer there. Only after attending to that piece of business did Ameen enter the US in November of the same year. He was recently captured by the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force in Sacramento CA, though you would never know it by the scarce media coverage.
Of course, there are more questions beyond the failure of "vetting" such an obvious danger to the nation. We must ask what has he been able to do during his more than three year stay in CA? Has he set up a sleeper network? Has he recruited other like minded people?

So does this mean that President Trump is correct about improving the vetting process for admitting refugees? Now that might be why there was so little media coverage of this travesty. Remember how many liberal activist judges tried to illegitimately defy the President's travel ban?
The President had to reconstruct the ban 3 times. There were Judges ruling against every version and they were ignoring the law every time they did it:

" Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

How doe's a judge get around that explicit law?  

Lets see, an activist judge believes that he has the power to evaluate the President's reasoning & motives. Therefore, they rule against the President until the ruling gets overturned by the SCOTUS, which we all know it will. Of course, by that time the ban itself has been rendered useless.

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Judge Derrick Watson, appointed by Barak Obama

Judge Watson was the most egregious of the activist judges.  He went ahead and enjoined the travel ban not just for those who had “bona fide relationships with a person or entity in the United States,” but even extended his injunction to protect nationals of every majority-Muslim country on the list, regardless of their connection to the United States. It's easy to see why Obama nominated him.
In June of 2018 (Trump v. Hawaii) the SCOTUS held on the side of the Constitution:

Held:
1. This Court assumes without deciding that plaintiffs’ statutory
claims are reviewable, notwithstanding consular nonreviewability or
any other statutory nonreviewability issue. See Sale v. Haitian Centers
Council, Inc., 509 U. S. 155. Pp. 8–9.
2. The President has lawfully exercised the broad discretion granted
to him under §1182(f) to suspend the entry of aliens into the United
States. Pp. 9–24.
(a) By its terms, §1182(f) exudes deference to the President in
every clause. It entrusts to the President the decisions whether and
when to suspend entry, whose entry to suspend, for how long, and on
what conditions. It thus vests the President with “ample power” to
impose entry restrictions in addition to those elsewhere enumerated
in the INA. Sale, 509 U. S., at 187. The Proclamation falls well within
this comprehensive delegation. The sole prerequisite set forth in
§1182(f) is that the President “find[ ]” that the entry of the covered aliens
“would be detrimental to the interests of the United States.”
The President has undoubtedly fulfilled that requirement here. He
first ordered DHS and other agencies to conduct a comprehensive
evaluation of every single country’s compliance with the information
and risk assessment baseline. He then issued a Proclamation with
extensive findings about the deficiencies and their impact. Based on
that review, he found that restricting entry of aliens who could not be
vetted with adequate information was in the national interest. 



So, now the question is what should be done now?  I think the President should take the advice of one of Barak Obama's advisers and take advantage of a crisis. It is time for another travel ban, this time to take a good hard look at what has already been allowed into the country. I say that if Ameen can "slip through the cracks" anybody can. This time let us include in that list every country that has sponsored terrorism, or has security or vetting issues of it's own.


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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  author  Vic Eldred    8 years ago

I suggest another more comprehensive travel ban

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
2  Studiusbagus    8 years ago
As incredible as it may sound, one of the founders of al-Qaeda in Iraq as well as the other terror group ISIS was captured in CA, of all places, after legally entering the country posing as a "refugee".

The least you could do deleted about his status in either group and give credit where credit is due...or are you taking credit for his photograph too?

Will this soon be locked because facts will be catching up with the author?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1  devangelical  replied to  Studiusbagus @2    8 years ago

deleted

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Studiusbagus @2    8 years ago

Perhaps you should check with the Department of Justice before you try calling people liars:

"Ameen was allegedly a member of ISIS. In 2004, before the rise of that brutal terror group, Ameen and his family helped start AQI, according to the DOJ. In addition to allegedly killing an Iraqi police officer, Ameen is suspected of planting IEDs and committing terrorist acts near his hometown of Rawah."


 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Participates
2.2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2    8 years ago

Alllegedly, allegedly and suspected.........

based on one eyewitness account of a murder in Iraq.  Aleem is fighting extradition to Iraq. He faces no charges in the USA.

This article casts a slightly different light on the subject but repeats some of the accusations.

Based on the entry interviews, DOJ has determined that Aleem lied about his father's death and the status of his brothers. he stands a good chance of being deported, but to where?

There seems to be some hesitance to ship him back to Iraq due to the automatic death sentence if found guilty of the murder charge.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.1    8 years ago
Alllegedly, allegedly and suspected.........

You are questioning what exactly?

First let's start with my link in post # 2.2.  Can you counter what the Daily Caller attributes to the DOJ - that Ameen and his family helped start AQI ?



There seems to be some hesitance to ship him back to Iraq due to the automatic death sentence if found guilty of the murder charge.

The larger question is how did he ever get refugee status?

As for any concern about where he should be sent, I believe revoking refugee status is step 1 and then he should be sent to Guantanamo Bay Detention Center until the deportation issue is settled. Then as I have said, the President should issue a new more inclusive travel ban.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Participates
2.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.2    8 years ago
You are questioning what exactly?

the point of the article & your conclusions.

Guantanamo, in it's day was for enemy combatants captured in hostilities.  It's down to 40 detainees, that no one wants and they are not accepting new detainees.

Especially for someone who hasn't committed a crime in the USA and is merely accused of bad behavior in that war torn paradise of Iraq.

Iraqis will be accusing each other of being terrorists and murderers for the next 80 years.

We are still hunting and finding Nazis.......Should we ban old Germans too?

from the Heavy article,

Since before Trump was elected president, the U.S. vetting process has been one of the world’s toughest. Since 1975, 3 million refugees have established lives in the United States. According to the Associated Press , not one of those refugees have been arrested for carrying out a lethal terror attack on U.S. soil.

In spite of that vetting, Aleem made it here in 2014 and because of persistent rumblings from Iraq, he was placed under surveillance by the FBI in 2016.

Seems like the system in place works as well as it can.

One case, whether he is guilty or not, should not influence any more travel bans.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.3    8 years ago
Especially for someone who hasn't committed a crime in the USA and is merely accused of bad behavior in that war torn paradise of Iraq.

Vetting isn't just about crimes. The DOJ says he helped found AQI, which you keep ignoring. I will say it again - if he can get through anyone can. Unlike the Germans you mention, radical Islamists are still at war with us.  


 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
2.2.6  Studiusbagus  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2    8 years ago

Maybe you should actually read the extradition memo before you jump on another right wing propaganda article..where it says Ameen's father was a supporter of the Jordanian that founded AQI. Not that Ameen and his family had annything to do with founding it.

But that would actually require reading what the DOJ actually said and not Tucker Carlson.

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
2.2.7  Rmando  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.1    8 years ago

"some hesitance to ship him back to Iraq due to the automatic death sentence if found guilty of the murder charges"

And the problem what that is.....?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Studiusbagus @2.2.6    8 years ago

Perhaps you should read your own link:

"He will be extradited to Iraq to face charges of premeditated murder. Ameen was allegedly a member of ISIS. In 2004, before the rise of that brutal terror group, Ameen and his family helped start AQI, according to the DOJ. In addition to allegedly killing an Iraqi police officer, Ameen is suspected of planting IEDs and committing terrorist acts near his hometown of Rawah. But Ameen appears not to have faced any rigorous questioning from the U.S. government about terror links and his criminal activities. Inste ad, he simply answered “no” to questions about his alleged ISIS and al-Qaeda links while inventing a false narrative about his father and brother. “Have you ever interacted with, had involvement with, or known any members of … Al Qaeda in Iraq … the Islamic State of Iraq or any other armed group or militia?” was one of the questions USCIS posed to Ameen. “No,” he answered, according to Justice Department documents. Ameen denied he had ever committed crimes in Iraq. “In actuality,” according to the Justice Department, witnesses told the FBI that Ameen committed “numerous crimes ranging from robbery to placing [improvised explosive devices].”






Thank you for the conclusive evidence of the epic failure of vetting during the Obama years

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.8    8 years ago

Don't know about Tucker Carlson, but whoever reported it got it right:

" In 2004, before the rise of that brutal terror group, Ameen and his family helped start AQI, according to the DOJ. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Rmando @2.2.7    8 years ago

Such concern for the enemies of America is treason. Please inform John Brennan, he needs to know what it looks like.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.11    8 years ago

Lets see, he politicized the CIA, lied to congress and has gone on a public crusade against the current President calling him a "traitor".

Ya, I think you've got a point there.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2.2.13  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Split Personality @2.2.1    8 years ago

Deport him to Canada.  Trudeau wants and welcomes jihadis because they'll vote for him in next year's election.

See the source image

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.13    8 years ago

Lol, I like it!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Studiusbagus @2    8 years ago
Will this soon be locked

Apparently not

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
2.3.1  Studiusbagus  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.3    8 years ago

You're right. It will just die on the vine from lack of integrety.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
2.3.3  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.2    8 years ago

It's a general saying. But if you must play ignorant....

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
3  Rmando    8 years ago

Oh no, we didn't need no stinkin travel ban, right?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
4  Buzz of the Orient    8 years ago

Vetting?  Vetting is useless when those who do the vetting are lazy or incompetent.

 
 

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