I haven't seen the movie, so I don't know whether the flag scene should be in it or not. I don't know how one can make such a decision until after seeing the movie...

EXCLUSIVE: TRUMP SAYS HE WON’T BE WATCHING NEIL ARMSTRONG MOVIE AFTER AMERICAN FLAG SNUB

Perhaps Mr. Trump will hold His breath until He turns blue ( an improvement over the current glowing orange), that'll show'em.

Since Canadian Ryan Gosling played Armstrong, maybe they should have shown a CANADIAN flag - it would make up for the fact that Hollywood remade The Canadian Caper as "Argo" (the rescue of the American diplomats from Iran) look as if it was all CIA. Even Jimmy Carter pointed out THAT bullshit. Actually, Hollywood does a good job of creating revisions to history, which will be remembered instead of what actually happened.  Here's a good article about that:

Hence why I tend to ignore "historical" Hollywood films. 

“I think this was widely regarded in the end as a human achievement [and] that’s how we chose to view it,” Gosling said.

Bullshit.  

Americans are not humans?  How did he arrive to this opinion?  I bet he doesn't even know the history.  One of Neil Armstrong's greatest moments was altered....his role was Armstrong, what a dumbass.  

Americans are not humans?

There are some that are legitimately questionable.

I have never seen a man who the camera so totally hates as it does Trump.

Americans are not humans?  How did he arrive to this opinion? 

What a fucking stupid take. I mean I would like to hear how you drew that conclusion, but I think it would cause me to lose what little faith I have left in our species. 

TRUMP SAYS HE WON’T BE WATCHING NEIL ARMSTRONG MOVIE AFTER AMERICAN FLAG SNUB

Another example of why Trump will go down in history as not only our most inept President of the modern era but also our most divisive one.

Neil Armstrong's sons push back on criticism of 'First Man' biopic about their dad

The sons of astronaut Neil Armstrong, the first man on the moon, say critics are focusing on the wrong thing when they complain that a new movie about the historic mission doesn’t feature Armstrong planting the U.S. flag on the lunar surface.

But Rick and Mark Armstrong, the astronaut’s sons, issued a statement defending the movie. Joining them in the statement is former NASA historian James Hansen, author of the 2012 book on which the movie is based, “First Man: The Life of Neil A. Armstrong.” The movie, they said, “celebrates an achievement ‘for all mankind.’”

The full statement:

“We’ve read a number of comments about the film today and specifically about the absence of the flag planting scene, made largely by people who haven’t seen the movie. As we’ve seen it multiple times, we thought maybe we should weigh in.

“This is a film about what you don’t know about Neil Armstrong. It’s a film that focuses on things you didn’t see or may not remember about Neil’s journey to the moon.  The filmmakers spent years doing intensive research to get at the man behind the myth, to get at the story behind the story. It’s a movie that gives you unique insight into the Armstrong family and fallen American heroes like Elliot See and Ed White.  It’s a very personal movie about our dad’s journey, seen through his eyes. 

“This story is human and it is universal. Of course, it celebrates an America achievement. It also celebrates an achievement ‘for all mankind,’ as it says on the plaque Neil and Buzz left on the moon. It is a story about an ordinary man who makes profound sacrifices and suffers through intense loss in order to achieve the impossible.  And in that, it is a story for a generation now facing challenges as great as landing on the moon.

“Although Neil didn’t see himself that way, he was an American hero. But he was also an engineer and a pilot, a father and a friend, a man suffered privately through great tragedies with incredible grace. This is why, though there are numerous shots of the American flag on the moon, the filmmakers chose to focus on Neil looking back at the earth, his walk to Little West Crater, his unique, personal experience of completing this journey that has seen so many incredible highs and devastating lows.

“In short, we do not feel this movie anti-American in the slightest.  Quite the opposite.  But don’t take our word for it.  We’d encourage everyone to go see this remarkable film and see for themselves.”

Another faux outrage brought to us by the third of America who have happily gone centipede for some ungodly reason.

“In short, we do not feel this movie anti-American in the slightest.  Quite the opposite.  But don’t take our word for it.  We’d encourage everyone to go see this remarkable film and see for themselves.”

It’s a very personal movie about our dad’s journey, seen through his eyes. 

so first it is about Armstrong and then it is about all mankind.  which is it?  isn't the movie titled "First Man" not "First Mankind"?

Ask Armstrong's kids.

How so?

I find it amazing (not really) that anytime a liberal and their Hollywood counterparts do or say something that is disingenuous or insulting to the country, the VERY NEXT movie that person makes tanks at the box office, and they can't figure that out. 

I think First Man will have probably been a pretty successful movie if the flag had not been omitted, but because these same Hollywood elites wanted to make that fact public before the movie is released, it will be just another liberal induced dud.

Too bad...

I have exactly zero doubt that the flag scene will have nothing to do with the success of the movie. It will tank because if your movie isn't Marvel you will be lucky to break even these days. It may be good, or it may suck ass, maybe I will find out if HBO snags it.

Who gives a shit, I was never gonna see it in the first place. Maybe if it comes out on HBO but that's it. 

Reichhardt, Tony, Finding Apollo , Air and Space, Smithsonian Institution, September 2008.

The (Apollo 11’s) flag is probably gone. Buzz Aldrin saw it knocked over by the rocket blast as he and Neil Armstrong left the moon 39 summers ago. Lying there in the lunar dust, unprotected from the sun’s harsh ultraviolet rays, the flag’s red and blue would have bleached white in no time. Over the years, the nylon would have turned brittle and disintegrated. … Dennis Lacarrubba, whose New Jersey-based company, Annin, made the flag and sold it to NASA for $5.50 in 1969, considers what might happen to an ordinary nylon flag left outside for 39 years on Earth, let alone on the moon. He thinks for a few seconds. “I can’t believe there would be anything left,” he concludes. “I gotta be honest with you. It’s gonna be ashes.”

Chow, Denise, On the Moon, Flags & Footprints of Apollo Astronauts Won't Last Forever , Space.com, September 2011

Based on the new (LRO) images, that mystery may remain unsolved, but (LRO Camera Principal Investigator, Dr. Mark) Robinson is skeptical that the flags are intact, if they are still there. The moon's extreme heat and ultraviolet conditions would probably destroy the nylon flags over time, he explained. "Personally, I would be surprised if there's anything left on them," Robinson said. "You know how [if] you leave a flag out over summer, how it starts to fade. Now, imagine the extreme UV environment on the moon, and the hot and cold cycling, and it's been 40 years — so if the flags are still there, they're probably in pretty rough shape."…. (Robert Pearlman, an expert on space history and collectibles, and editor of collectSPACE.com said) "We didn't design a special American flag to go to the moon to last thousands of years. They literally sent out a secretary to the nearby Sears and bought an off-the-shelf flag and modified it. The natural disintegration of the flag's material in the harsh conditions on the moon's surface is to be expected. "

Axelrod, Jim, What happened to the American flags on the moon? , CBS News, July 2011.

(Historian Anne Platoff) believes the first two (flags) from Apollo 11 and 12 did not survive the ignition gases of the lunar liftoff … "It wasn't the intention for the flag material itself to last. It was just to be there during the event - the landing and departing from the moon. We didn't have a requirement that the flag, the U.S. flag, had to withstand all the environments for eons".  Made from nylon just like the ones at a dime store, though ordered off the shelf from a government supply catalogue, Annie Platoff's theory is they are probably darkened and maybe more than a bit tattered.  "I would guess, over time, 40 years, the combination of sun-rot and micro-meteor impact is probably devastating. I mean it's not a pretty picture to paint. The only way you're going to test these theories is to go back to the Moon and look at the flag," Platoff says.

Finally, Lunar Scientist Paul Spudis, in a July 2011 blog posting , writes:

For forty-odd years, the flags have been exposed to the full fury of the Moon’s environment – alternating 14 days of searing sunlight and 100° C heat with 14 days of numbing-cold -150° C darkness.  But even more damaging is the intense ultraviolet (UV) radiation from the pure unfiltered sunlight on the cloth ( modal ) from which the Apollo flags were made.  Even on Earth, the colors of a cloth flag flown in bright sunlight for many years will eventually fade and need to be replaced. So it is likely that these symbols of American achievement have been rendered blank, bleached white by the UV radiation of unfiltered sunlight on the lunar surface.  Some of them may even have begun to physically disintegrate under the intense flux.

"Bleached", “disintegrated”, “ashes”, “rough shape”, and “tattered”.  Intuitively, experts mostly think it highly unlikely the Apollo flags (See Platoff's article  Where No Flag Has Gone Before: Political and Technical Aspects of Placing a Flag on the Moon for details), could have endured the 42 years of exposure to vacuum, about 500 temperature swings from 242 F during the day to -280 F during the night, micrometeorites, radiation and ultraviolet light, some thinking the flags have all but disintegrated under such an assault of the environment.

hq.nasa

I guess "One small step for (a) man..... one giant leap for mankind." means nothing. 

You could have the flag and it would still mean what it means. If it's such a strong message, it will hold up even with the flag in the movie. We've known about the phrase and the flag for almost 50 years and it was never a problem until last week.

Uh huh...what was that movie that was going to get rid of Hillary? 5 days or something like that? 

And Palin's movies?   Bombed.

Neil Armstrong - American hero and Patriot.

Donald trump - Russian hero and patriot.

TRUMP THE HYPOCRITICAL PANDERER TO RELIGIONISTS and WHITE NATIONALISTS!