Trump Says "I'm A Nationalist" - May We Complete The Sentence For Him?
No one can accuse Trump of not understanding his supporters. That is one reason he retweeted numerous white supremacists during the 2016 presidential campaign. To my knowledge Trump himself never addressed that tweeting habit he had, but like many other things that reflect negatively on Trump, his base didnt care.
Last night Trump claimed that he is being very brave by announcing "I am a nationalist", suggesting that it is not politically correct to be a "nationalist".
I have to admit, I don't recall any other politician using those words in a speech, at least not in modern times.
Most of the time, nowadays, when you see the word nationalist it usually has the word white in front of it. Is Donald Trump aware of that?
Trump said, later, "I'm a nationalist , but not a white nationalist". This splitting of the baby passes for cleverness in Trumpland. He gets the benefit of a friendly signaling to his white nationalist following while also retaining "deniability". Trump does this sort of thing a lot.
So does he mean anything by it? Well, how many other prominent politicians have said those words? They don't, because those are what are called "pregnant" words, words with an unspoken meaning, and politicians don't want them to negatively reverberate on them. Trump doesn't care because those words appeal to a large segment of his supporters.
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White nationalist leader is plotting to ‘take over the GOP’ — Identity Evropa is pushing its members to stealthily infiltrate Republican politics to move the party towards its agenda of banning non-white immigration. — Patrick Casey blended in easily with the buttoned-up crowd …
Identity Evropa wants to ban non white immigration, - Stephen Miller wants to ban non white immigration.
Trump says he would like to see more immigration from "Norway". See how the picture gets filled in?
I heard this the other day and, couldn't find the story on the web sights I checked so, I never posted it. Patrick Casey was dumb enough to admit this on camera to an NBC reporter and, I think Mitch McConnell was at that Republican rally and, mentioned that he knew Casey and, thought he was a wonderful guy. All I can say is, Mitch what's hiding in your closet?
Patrick Casey also specifically credited Donald Trump in that interview for helping to make the Republican Party susceptible to a white nationalist takeover.
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That's the last time I'm letting you post that meme on one of my articles. Starting now they will all be removed as off topic. Enough is enough.
Same thing with your threads of hate.
Last I heard ANTIFA means anti fascist.
no. you may not.
believe it or not, some people love this country.
of course, the left will want to call us "white" nationalists but ya know, kids will be kids...
nationalists and trump supporters come in all flavors folks
Well, at least you didn't claim that nationalist is just the name of D.C's major league baseball team.
A take on nationalism I agree with.
I don't get too worried about the semantics and sophist arguments are out of season.
call us nationalists or patriots, matters not. we love our country and our culture.
we also believe that open border globalists can fuk off.
what is "your" culture?
hahahahahaha - I can't wait to hear this.
I want to be part of your culture! What do I have to do? I think I meet the most important "requirement" but let me know and I'm happy to apply.
The point is, there is a difference in nationalism and patriotism.
One is not one to be proud of.
Also, we are already a global world and population. To deny that is rather strange.
I guess that could be summed up in two words...
liberty and security.
There is an American culture, but it has derived from places all over the globe. Pizza is an American food, now. The only indigenous American culture belongs to the descendants of the natives.
What about rap music and NBA basketball?
Liberty, like civil liberty and is everyone entitled to civil liberty or is there a criteria?
Security, physical security like the military or is cyber security included?
that falls under "liberty... enjoy.
cheers
oh, lol.
I think our questions were too hard......
every legal liberty including civil rights falls under liberty even baseball and apple pie
and...
every security issue falls under security including border security, home security and cybersecurity.
too complicated?
nah... way too easy my friend, simply way too easy
there are two things the progressives will never find their way around
individual liberty and national security
There you are! I thought you left.
So.......let's chat about cyber security. Are you good with punishing someone......let's say a Russian, if they cyber attacked the United States? What if someone helped the Russian.......let's say someone like an American! Do you think the American is culpable for the cyber attack also?
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
And, backwards looking.
Puh-lease. You support a dude who encouraged an enemy of our country to attack us and I'm the one that's weak on security.....
This explains quite a bit about the mindset of a Trump supporter.
You should because this shit is important. Fascists are "nationalists" but not patriots.
I'm a patriot and I took an oath to fight off fascists and others who would seek to bring down our republic
what about pierogies and stuffed cabbage?
sorry to inform you, but,
nothing said on this site, by anyone on any day, is important in any way shape or form.
no votes are being changed here and no world is being saved here either.
bs.. mussolini was a socialist (hard left)
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cheers
No, I don't think you do.
Retract this:
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I don't hang out with anybody that condones violence or censorship and I don't support government suppressing political opposition. That's a pretty damning thing to say and you have no right to say it because you don't fucking know me. Either retract it or don't ever respond to me again and I in turn will ignore you
have you called for anyone in obama admins arrest for misuse of power and fabricating evidence to spy on a presidential candidate?
if the answers are no? not a chance of retraction... I will only dig in deeper.
are trump supporters socialists? not a chance.
? the only fascists in the usa today are on the left.
honestly, you do not seem to even know what fascism is.
just curious... if you found out hitler highly endorsed "food"
does that suddenly mean everyone who eats food is a nazi?
in other words...
lots of countries support, love, and are proud of their cultures,
that does not make them all fascists
now... lets try to convince me why a socialist would go far right as you claim?
Benito may have started out as a 'socialist' but he became the definition of a Fascist/Nationalist. Adolf Hitler modeled the rise of the 3rd Reich upon Benito's experiences.
gee, Mussolini sounds like the worst kind of 'socialist', doesn't he? /s
got democrat written all over him... LOL
did he use the power of govt to spy on his opposition as well?
Thank you for deleting your original comment.
and if you truly believe this
Why do you comment, when you could be surfing...........
Cheers
Typical leftist disinformation
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simple fun... no other reason required
I'm also playing a game called "rust" at the same time.
cheers to you too
no problem....
but before I go... I want you to meet another fascist democrat... maybe you heard of him?
accuse others of that which you do = straight out of the left's playbook.
sorry, i definitely disagree that it is limited to one side only.
of course you would accuse the right of doing what the left does.
that is the idea exactly... and my point.
you must have read alinsky's rules for radicals also huh?
good job
sorry, i don't play in your imaginary war of "right vs left", i can see both sides do exactly that. Of course you'll disagree while claiming your side is angelic - it's what the other side does too. Both sides of the same coin - once you figure that out, you'll be much better off
good luck ! 
truthfully? I have been saying for yrs... if the bs keeps up all we will have left is
rightwing fascism -vs- leftwing fascism
but now I have no fear of that happening... the paradigm has shifted. all the bs of the past decades is coming to an end.
those on the right and left who have been selling us out are losing that power rapidly and with a swiftness.
those who would use violence or censorship to silence opposition? those are the fascists and luckily they are damn near out of business... have you not noticed the lack of antifa? it gets kind of peaceful when fascists in the whitehouse do not fund and then turn a legal blind eye to the violence of real fascists like antifa BTW we changed their name to:
antifa = anti-First Amendment.
more honest and it fits nice don't ya think?
you have more confidence than i do - i think it'll unfortunately continue.
if fits as nicely as the right wing groups that do the same
both sides of the same coin !
bs... no one on the right is calling for the daily kos to be shut down or trying to get rachel madcow fired. or anything like that. no rightwingers protesting leftwing speakers can be found at any college.
and there are no rightwing tech companies censoring liberals either...
those are decidedly and undebatably, leftwing sports by today's fascists
cheers
i can see the left calling for people to get fired - like Anderson Cooper denouncing Kathy Griffin and wanting her to be fired ( like many other "left" individuals ) or
looks like Democrats also called him to resign ... oh wait.. you thought they only called for the conservatives to resign didn't you ? sorry...
and now you are upset with tech companies running their private businesses how they see fit in the same manner this website does ? whatever happened to that popular conservative mantra - " let the free market punish them " ??
I was aware of that... now tell me why ALL democrats did not call for him to resign?
or did you think I meant all democrats are fascists? if so you was wrong.
the interesting thing for me is... I reckon there are only two, maybe three ways for things to go from here.
how long ya think it will be before the democrat party spits in two? quick solution
or
do you see the moderates pushing the leftwing fascists out of the democrat party? long solution
or
will the democrat moderates move to and then remain independents forever? no solution
should be fun to watch
So into the false Obama stories. Here, instead of spreading bullshit, read the truth. And any comment on Russia hacking Hillary and the dems?
And Mussolini was a FASCIST! And not a socialist.
and.... you are late to the party,
we already covered all that and we have moved on.
we are not starting over just for you...
start at the top of the thread and read everything on the way down.
be sure to check out Reagans video as well
me being upset? your too funny.
fact is... you have never met a happier person... that's why I smile and say cheers so much.
there is no better argument against liberals than their censorship activities on display for everyone to see.
and in the end those websites I listed will stop censoring people for legal political speech or they will lose their legal protections for what they forget to censor or simply choose not to censor. and the lawyers will be richer for it.
they can't have it both ways for much longer... I hope they have fun while it lasts.
cheers
Raised my right arm once and took an oath. Seems the guy who swore me in became a traitor. Funny what lots of money can buy.
“We had a case where we had an African-American guy who is a fan of mine, great fan, great guy... Look at my African-American over here. Look at him! Are you the greatest?”
Yeah, vanilla, old vanilla, french vanilla, vanilla bean, white chocolate vanilla, and vanilla with one dark chocolate chip on top...
My wife, Gloria would have said "A raisin in a bowl of milk".
funny how the rightwinger in this conversation cannot relate to either of the above two comments.
so let me get this straight...
there are sayings like those associated with skin color? and you two know them by heart?
I have never heard or said any such bs like that... it would never be tolerated nor should it.
and yet, I am a racist?
the hypocrisy is fukin thick round here... and too funny for any more words
First, I was quoting my DEAD wife who said it and, said it often. Second, she was not a racist, how do I know this, she was African-American.
A) every race has their fair share of racists.
B) try again.
C) Cheers
Had a Jamaican girlfriend once. Her folks hated me for being white and my folks thought that I had made a seriously bad choice. We didn't last as a result.
I had a problem with my in-laws at first, then when I prevented her dad from losing his home to her ex-husband through a stupid move on her dads part, everyone in the family started loving me. The old man was going to sign a quit claim deed over to her ex, I advised her father of what that was and, he refused to sign it.
Pretty sure that never happens.
how shockingly diverse of you... LOL
better watch out... they are leaving the plantation again.
everyone, all colors are waking up fast.
and the dems better start signing illegals up faster to cover the losses... LOL
it is sad how the left has let the black community down.
if only the left had given black people jobs instead of welfare, their future would be brighter.
cheers
So far right wingers, who have traditionally hung blacks from trees now pretend to be friends?
You see, they imagine that no one will notice that the conservative Democrats who once founded the KKK, supported Jim Crow laws, fought against the civil rights and voting rights acts and supported bans on interracial marriage would ever change the party on their voter registration.
To truly understand this issue one must understand that there have never really been just two political parties. In the 1860 Presidential election there were four candidates from four different parties, the Northern Democrats (Stephen Douglas), the Southern Democrats (John C. Breckinridge), the Constitutional Union party (John Bell) and the Republican party (Abraham Lincoln).
The Constitutional Union party was made up of conservative former Whig party members who teamed up with the Know Nothings and some Southern Democrats who pushed for no secession but to avoid the question of slavery and keep the status quo.
The Northern Democrats wanted to keep most of the status quo but to get rid of the fugitive slave laws where the South was trying to force Northern states to return fugitive slaves or suffer fines and penalties.
The Southern Democrats pushed for increased fugitive slave laws and harsher penalties for those who helped fugitive slaves. They pushed for constitutional amendments to further establish slavery as not only legal but necessary to the financial wellbeing of the nation.
For Republicans of that time, their main complaint was over the repeal of the Missouri Compromise which had kept slavery out of Kansas but which Southern Democrats repealed with the passage of the Kansas-Nebraska Act. Their party name "Republican" was to pay homage to "Thomas Jefferson's Republican Party". I find that rather humorous as many conservative Republicans today seem to have a severe distaste for the very progressive Thomas Jefferson.
"The Civil Rights Act of 1964 , signed by President Lyndon B. Johnson , a Democrat from the Southern state of Texas, led many Southern Democrats to vote for Barry Goldwater at the national level. In the ensuing years, the increasing conservatism of the Republican Party compared to the liberalism of the Democratic Party (especially on social and cultural issues) led many more conservative white Democrats in the South to vote Republican. However, many continued to vote for Democrats at the state and local levels, especially before 1994 . After 2010, Republicans had gained a solid advantage over Democrats at all levels of politics in most Southern states."
Knowledge power is stronger than white power. The more you know.
How did the country become this way......it's simply so sad. More division, more hate, more deplorable behavior cheered and revered by his base. I just don't get it. I don't understand how people can toss aside all sense of moral judgement. How can we have this many disturbed individuals in our country.
It's not an "accident" that Trump uses that language PJ. He knows who is listening to him and seeking approval and encouragement.
Look at the POS in the white house for your answer.
I blame those who put him there and continue to enable and support him. They are broken and want everyone to be broken along with them.
Hey PJ - why don't you go get the losers that the Dems had running for President - yeah, that's the ticket.
The American people and Electoral College determined the Dems didn't have shyte for a candidate for President - they still don't.
I have lost a lot of respect for some of his supporters.
Most of them will not even call him on his lies.
They enable him.
Donald Trump was elected based on racism and sexism,
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So, 57% of the electoral college is racist and sexist, eh? That's what you're saying because Trump received 304 EC votes and Clinton received 227.
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Nice try.
The Electoral College is partisan. Hillary wont the popular vote.
Read the Constitution - Article II, Section 1, #3. -"The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed;"
Sorry - Constitution rules, EC wins, "popular" lost again for the 51st time (couple Presidents had more than one term/election).
I've never respected them. To vote in a man who has sexually assaulted women and committed so many other despicable acts only showed me that they were and remain morally bankrupt.
The electoral college exists to keep extremist rabble like Trump from being elected.
That would be terrible if it were true but it's NOT. Oh yeah, we did and the left still loves Bill Clinton anyway
Yeah. Bill Clinton was a terriblleperson and the democrats showed their lack of morality.
hahahahaha - that's what you come with. Of course Bill Clinton was a perv. I've always said that. A.L.W.A.Y.S
But hey, if this is what you're putting up against Trump and his actions then I'd say that's pretty pathetic.
Oh.....and I'm not a democrat.
that is some bs right there... LOL nice job... LOL
50 states voted their majority opinion as the constitution intended.
but the funny part is hillary had more faithless electors than trump.
kinda like that kavanaugh thing... and the trump thing... all the way back to the death of the gop thing in 2009...
whatever the left wants? or expects? they keep getting the opposite... LOL
You haven't heard First? In 2020 it's going to be Hillary vs Trump 2, the rematch!
The primary reason for the EC is that we are a Republic of Sovereign States with a Federal rather than a national government.
The left longs for the dissolution of this government as a Republic
The American people and Electoral College
You are half correct. The American people made their choice by over 3 million votes. It was the EC who chose the POTUS.
we can only hope... LOL
sorry but thats bs,
the electoral college voted their states majority opinion as intended by the constitution.
there will never be a day when the national majority means anything in a presidential election.
Appomattox Courthouse is proof that there are not 50 sovereign states. The Constitution replaced the former Articles of Confederation that gave the states more power but it created a situation for the federal government that was unworkable.
Absolutely and completely incorrect.... So a lot of people seem to always ask what is the point of the EC, we keep telling them it is to balance the large population areas with the small population areas...
They always tell us that we are full of it...
So lets end the debate about it....
where was the original debate held on how this nation elects it's president? the Constitutional convention of course, and they specifically wrote out the procedure in the constitution as 1st Warrior pointed out so well above...
But the question remains WHY? well since we DO have the recordings of the convention and what they specifically said and debated and came to conclusions over why doesn't anyone refer to them and see what was their intent?
Why did they create the Electoral College?
James Madison, was not only a delegate to the convention, he was also one of the dozen or so recorders that took down every word. (or made sure it was recorded accurately)
Lets listen to the final logic for the EC as expressed after lengthy debate of virtually every method of electing a president....
1 FARRAND..... Max Farrand, The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787, ed. Max Farrand (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1911). Vol. 2. 10/17/2018. Also in James Madison, The Writings of James Madison, Gaillard Hunt (New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1900). Vol. 4. (also known as part 2 of the Journal of the Constitutional Convention.)
the logic is explained below in current terms, to wit;
This means that the north had much more voting power than the south in a popular election hence the south would not have an equal chance in electing a president there just wasn't enough voters.
This says it plainly, the south would be at a severe disadvantage in a popular election of the president simply because they had a large number of non-voting negroes.
And here we have it, Madison's recording the conventions logic on the popular election of presidents. There weren't enough votes in the south to fairly elect a president, hence having electors selected by the legislatures of the states based upon total population, (both voting and non-voting) to balance out the heavy popular vote in the much more voting populated northern states, was the whole and sole point of having electors.
That is the result of what was being discussed in the convention. And easily understood when the archaic late 17th century language is adjusted to today's language, it becomes absolutely clear what the point was.
It was ALWAYS about balancing the voting between hugely populated voting blocks and sparsely populated voting blocks...
And always has been.
Pure and absolute genius if you ask me.
Read the links, learn something.
The majority in this country did not want Clinton either.
Yeah I guess that's why they rioted in the streets and held a "scream day" . That must be why they keep bringing it up.
Oh! Wait! Those rioters and screamers were Clinton supporters .
This says it plainly, the southern slave owners would be at a severe disadvantage in a popular election of the president simply because they had a large number of slaves they refused to allow a vote or a voice. If they allowed blacks to vote, they wouldn't be in power, so they had to figure out a way to maintain the most amount of power in the least amount of white land owners hands, thus the electoral college. Without slavery or the "predicament" they found themselves in where they were often outnumbered in their States by the slaves the owned, we would never have had the electoral college. It simply would not exist without it.
Since southern slave owners no longer exist and black people can now vote, seems to me the EC is archaic and outdated
I was actually on the fence about the EC but your comment swayed me. Thank-you
Cows in Montana have more representation in the US Senate than human beings in New York, Chicago, or Los Angeles do.
Somebody posted a comment that the people in Wyoming actually have more of a say in a presidential election than the voters of California do. They did an equation that proved their point. I still sat on the fence because, you know, the founding fathers couldn't be wrong.
But DP made a compelling argument about slave owners and the need for an EC at the beginning of our nation.
Well, since your so fond of supposing lets extrapolate this under your ideal scenario....
If they had eliminated slavery, there was no 3/5ths compromise and everyone had the right to vote, then the imbalance would have still existed.
The Southern states would have had 50% more voting power than the Northern states based upon population.
The same situation would have existed except in reverse. Which of course the Northern states would not have accepted in the same manner the Southern states didn't.
It had nothing to do with slavery, except in a race baiting mind...
That is the sad truth of it, to know that we still have as many if not more racists today than we did back then...
Besides this not being true (there were about 20,000,000 white citizens and 3,200,000 slaves in the 1850 census), if black Americans hadn't been enslaved and were free to vote and run for elected office we wouldn't have really had any delineation between "Southern" and "Northern" power, we would have just all been Americans as our founders intended. Every American would have their vote count instead of a stupid ridiculous electoral college system.
If when it was decided, they told people what it really was, I doubt any true patriots would have supported it. They would have had to explain "Okay, so you here in New York City and any of the other big American cities, you get one ballot to cast for President. And for all you rural folks, you get 3 ballots to cast in each Presidential election, because, well, um, you know, you're special and should get to vote three times more than your city counterparts even though its likely you're less informed and less educated. Now doesn't that sound like a great system?".
And, much to the angst of many, that's exactly how it's supposed to go, ya know?
Cows in Montana evidently more sense than humans in NY, Chicago, or LA who keep electing marxist statists
the USA is not a democracy and it will never be a democracy.
the national majority in a federal election means absolutely nothing in our republic and never will.
But she did not get the majority of the votes. The majority of the votes went to Trump and other candidates for president.
if abandoning moral judgment means accepting things like shit trade deals and open borders??
get ready for some serious crazy... ya ain't seen nothing yet... LOL
Too late.....nothing the trump supporter does surprises me anymore. I just shake my head. There's nothing else to do.
now your catching on... LOL
Ummmm - that's not a good thing. just so's you know
yes it is... just so ya know. acceptance is the first stage of recovery
we know it is hard accepting that other people have different beliefs...
so hey... good job, well done.
cheers
PJ says somberly.... .
You just don't seem to get it or maybe it's intentional. It's not about different beliefs, it's about a complete shut down on moral principles. In reality, I don't have too much of an issue with many of the policies but I cannot and will not toss aside my values and shit on other people to support a man who is completely and utterly indecent at every level of his core and being.
What is happening to our country, the hate, the division, is solely on Mr. Trump's supporters. They have given a stamp of approval to his behavior. It's unforgivable. I will never forget or forgive. I will do everything in my power to shackle what the Trump supporter has unleashed. Their allegiance is to a man NOT this country.
bs,,,
it started with obama and funding the likes of antifa to create chaos in our streets like any good fascist will do.
but sessions has put a stop to that bs.
which is why we hear so little of antifa these days... it is kind of nice and quiet now, all sudden like.
the leftwing fascist's fundamental change of america has failed. in spectacular fashion, I might add.
now, the restoration of our country is in progress... please be patient
O.....kay. Yes, I've seen reported on the news the recent attempts to "restore" America.
I'm not sure why the right is so angry when they claim to be winning so much. Some people are never happy. I hope you find peace soon.
Fox, Beck, Limbaugh the Kochs and the Murdochs created the far right wing in the USA. And it is all about money.
The Trump a 'nationalist?' Uh...…….probably not. Recent developments in The Russian Federation coupled with National Security Advisor John Bolton's visit where he met with Russian INTEL and President Putin himself clearly indicates that the Trump has sold himself and the US...………….OUT.
MAGA
the leftist obsession with Russia which only developed after Trump beat Billary is gotten so far beyond laughable it's now merely boring.
The left needs to find a new phobia to promote with the media's help because even the media is abandoning it.
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For a person who claims to be a pastor you are the opposite of the teachings of Jesus, or did I miss the Gospel of George Wallace?
Nothing I stated is in conflict with the teachings of Jesus. Where did Jesus teach to fear another nation that is toothless to us?
Your slur is repulsive. I have never been a Southerner, this has nothing to do with the South and Racism is an evil sin in the eyes of God.
Not to mention my love for my Black Stepsons, and 5 black Grandchildren. Take your racist slurs elsewhere.
What did epi say that was racist? Seems to me you got bent out of shape when being compared to a Southerner. Do you hate Southerners now?
No, but it was an attempt to suggest that I'm a southerner and a racist.
So you think all Southerners are racist?
Curious as to just how many Russian Bots work here.
Good point.
The left hates the term nationalist because they prefer the term globalist
I'm more interested in why Trump wants to claim he is a nationalist. Even a total idiot like him has to realize that his racist supporters fancy themselves as "nationalists"
He's trying to get out the vote! He's also dangling the tax breaks for the middle class and stoking fear with the caravan of migrants.
Tell us why it's wrong to believe in the nation you live in?
If we extend the Constitution w/ the Bill of Rights to all people or even better the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, what is the problem of understanding and embracing the fact that we are a very interconnected global community of people and we need to start acting like it?
Don't feed the Russians.
Our Constitution ONLY applies to Americans. It is up to other nations to determine the type of government they want.
I oppose the UDHR as a one world government attempt to control us.
The UDHR is a limitation on the power of government and a statement of equal worldwide human rights. Would you support that idea? You have no problem trying to create a tyrannical Protestant Christian government that tramples the rights of all but a very few but you don't seem to support equal human rights for all.
Do you not live on Planet Earth?
stop lying about me. I've repeatedly stated that I oppose ALL theocractic governments. I'm a minarchist which calls for extremely limited government.
We will not have equal human rights until Christ returns and the devil is put in hell. Until then you cannot change the nature of mankind. So I do not support some one world government attempting to control humanity
how do you think you are communicating with me? it's not a relevant question
that statement right there not only smacks of proselytizing but also of endorsing a theocratic government. Don't be offended if I don't believe any of the bullshit coming off the end of your fingertips
It is a relevant question. You are a Citizen of Planet Earth. You are connected to every living being on this planet. Your own God tells you to be a steward of this great planet.
We are a global society whether you like it or not.
the constitution does not apply to people not citizens, and/or not standing on our soil and it never will.
that actually is a great idea. copy our bill of rights word for word. (no changes made in the translation)
first, we need a world govt capable of enforcing that declaration evenly across the globe.
but ironically, we are currently killing globalism with the election of trump and the upcoming brexit.
sneaking world govt backdoor thru trade deals and climate accords was never really a good plan to start with.
britain fell for it with the lisbon treaty... after watching that go down?
we tossed the paris accord and the TPP into the trashcan - not happening here
If aliens invade I bet you'll be a globalist.
He'd try to convert them to his religion first. This would be fun to watch.
Shhhhhh......
i'd be defending my home and my country, not the planet. I didn't serve in the military to defend the planet.
Stop being so parochial. If the invader is not human you cannot just defend your part of the Earth. We are all humans, despite our many colors and our languages, so we must learn to work together for the betterment of all people, the animals and most importantly the environment on which we depend.
that's your opinion, not mine
Are you not part of the human species?
not a chance
no world govt needed. sovereign countries can work together.
try again.
If aliens invade the planet what choice would you have ?
That is globalism. In my opinion.
Duck and cover ?
O wait that's for nuclear war. Gee I dont know about alien invasions though.
Run and hide ?
if everyone who pushed globalism thought like that there would be no problem ey?
as they fight to regain their sovereignty again....
ask the brits how that open border, centrally planned, globalism thing has been working out.
cheers
perhaps we need two different words then.
we already do. the current lexicon is adequate
in the past 2yrs? the globalist agenda has been setback 100 yrs and still losing ground.
We are already a global civilization.
I bet most of the things in your home are made overseas.
According to our Supreme Court (wrongly imo) million dollar companies are people. And guess what, they are multinational, global.
We live global, we are all already intertwined.
Also most people from the UK that I have heard, enjoyed being able to travel freely between countries.
Nationalism equals my country is better than yours so fuck you.
yes, I exaggerated... sarcasm like that is tuff stuff for some folks, my bad.
so for the nitpickers?
the globalist agenda has been in play well over 60yrs
and now the globalist agenda has been set back 40yrs easy
the trend will continue...
That's good.
But then it sucks that so many of us call global trade globalism. Not unexpected today though, it seems words are losing their true meanings to many. And many people mean and think globalism iIS global trade. I did.
So, Thanks for the education on the descriptions of the two different words.
Global trade it is !
so close... let me fix it for you.
I mean.... lets be clear.
nationalism means our country is more important than all the other countries in the world combined, so fuk them. either they play fair or we will knock them over. they don't like it? they can try and do something about it any time they feel froggy.
cheers
It is all a lie. The so called globalization is a myth.
Though I would consider myself a proponent.
The people in Europe (the EU) enjoy the ability to travel freely between countries.
It does not mean loss of nation sovereignty.
I send you back to my reply 2.2
It seems to fit perfectly.
O I dont like that word anymore.
Separate countries yep . Us better that the rest,, you can keep that part.
Not only do I see myself as but one person in america I'm Also see myself as one of the billions of humans on the planet . Putting myself ahead of the rest of mankind somehow doesn't seem quite right. But to each their own someone has to go first and think they are the most important.
But as a country we soon would be isolated and falling behind the rest of the world, ostracized, unwanted and constantly defending what we did have from the rest of the world.
NK comes to mind, and we already have one of those , So No thanks.
name a single country that has done more for the entire world than we have?
is nk on that list?
I admit I am a bit confused here... do you think nationalism means isolationism like in nk?
if so... try again.
you have some research to do.
when the eurocrats in brussells tells britain how many fish they can catch in their own territorial waters? that is but one example of how britain has lost their sovereign state while in the EU.
translations
britain has lost the ability to secure their border but they will get it back in time, after brexit.
once britain leaves, the eu has a shelf life of maybe ten yrs before it goes bust. they will try to raise taxes on remaining members who can not afford to pay and that will start the eu;s end.
you will find that where ever the usa and britain go? the civilized world will follow.
hell, we started this gloablist thing after ww2... was a bad plan, now we are ending it... no problem.
sovereign countries and secure borders are an easy sell to people in this world.
open borders and foreign planners are not an easy sell for most countries.
and an impossible sell in the USA read: no dice here
No but your last definition IMO: could lead to an isolated country like NK. That was my connection.
Especially This section:
nationalism means our country is more important than all the other countries in the world combined, so fuk them. either they play fair or we will knock them over. they don't like it? they can try and do something about it any time they feel froggy.
PS: I doubt NK thinks the world had "Played fair"either But That's just a detail, The overall "feel" of this definition. Kinda reeks of conceit and anger and seems threatening So, yes I'd want that kind of a country isolated if I was the other countries of the world.
Can You imagine China, Russia Or even North Korea declaring those words ?
nationalism means our country is more important than all the other countries in the world combined, so fuk them. either they play fair or we will knock them over. they don't like it? they can try and do something about it any time they feel froggy.
We'd be pissed.
Apparently it means tearing up arms treaties.
I dont agree.
this country will always be open for business.... open for illegals? not so much.
and that's the difference in a nutshell.
easy stuff when ya get down to it.
cheers
Bullshit and a red herring.
The ability to secure their border? Who ever said they could not? Could people from Germany travel over? Of course, just like they could travel there.
Open borders does not mean that people from all over the world can decide to move there. Another myth. It is a pact with another country to let their citizens travel freely. I wish some day we would have that with Canada and Mexico.
Do you think that the fish in the ocean could never be depleted? Do you not think it would be better to get the whole word together and preserve, regulate fishing as not to destroy it forever?
Can You imagine China, Russia Or even North Korea declaring these words ?
nationalism means our country is more important than all the other countries in the world combined, so fuk them. either they play fair or we will knock them over. they don't like it? they can try and do something about it any time they feel froggy.
I contend.... We'd be pissed.
hmmmm, lemme think about that.... only everyone who voted for brexit... LOL
“The appeal of the anti-Establishment populist argument that we need to take back control of our borders and immigration ... proved stronger than the economic risks that Brexit would entail,” Queen Mary, University of London professor of politics Tim Bale said.
too funny...
anything else ya need to know? perhaps I will stop by this page again.
not likely... but maybe... LOL
cheers
Anything substantial you can push?
Parroting right wing noise, sadly it is prevalent over there as well.
Who did you take this country back from? Who took it to begin with?
So faced with actual questions you are going to run...
nah... only so much fun one can have in any given day on any given topic. im only back because slow news day... LOL maybe tomorrow will bring a better topic. but for now all ya need to know is simple...
your questions are not important to me
but the fun I have is important to me.
see how that works?
but just so ya know, the service I do provide for the left,
is completely free of charge.
cheers
It's like the crew of a spaceship arguing "The uppity flight crew hates the term engine-roomist, they prefer spaceshipist".
We all have to share this amazing blue spaceship hurtling through space at 1.3 million miles an hour, we can't seclude ourselves imagining we're the only passenger that matter or that the rest of the ship isn't important for everyone's survival. "Globalist" is just another term for "Blue spaceship-ist" because whether we like it or not, we're all on a long journey together.
How sad that you think everything is either all black or all white.
Anything to rile the 30 % percent base before the midterms. The only truth the man has ever said aloud.
Trump has been roundly accused of being a white nationalist. Nobody ever accused him of being a "nationalist". Why doesn't he just respond to what he is accused of? Coming out as a "nationalist" is about as relevant as coming out as a tighty whiteys guy.
Still waiting for those tax returns
There's nothing wrong with simple nationalism. It defines the last several centuries around the world. Anyone who ever went to war for a nation engaged in nationalism. Anyone who ever made a treaty between nations engaged in nationalism. Anyone who ever flew or saluted the flag of a nation engaged in nationalism. If you voted for the president of a nation you have engaged in nationalism. It's simply identifying with a nation and promoting the interests of that nation.
If you can only talk about what Trump said by "completing the sentence" then you are lying. You are characterizing someone else's statements and feelings by adding to what they have said. That's dishonest.
Ever since he ran for office, Trump's enemies on the Left have accused him racism where it didn't exist. There's nothing racist, for example, in demanding that NATO members pay their fair share. That's nationalism. There's nothing racist in demanding better trade terms with Canada, Mexico, the EU or China. It's just nationalism. There's nothing racist about wanting to bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States. That's nationalism. There's nothing racist about wanting to secure your borders. It's nationalism. There's nothing racist about trying to protect your nation from foreign terrorists. It's just nationalism. There's nothing racist about being proud to stand for the national anthem. It's pure nationalism.
Trump's enemies don't have good reasons for arguing against these positions, which got him elected. In fact, many are on the record agreeing with some or all of these positions. Pelosi, Schumer, both Clintons, Obama. They have all endorsed these issues publicly. Since the Left can't argue against the substance of his positions without being obviously hypocritical, all they can do is accuse him of being racist.
A white nationalist leader told NBC news that Trump deserves credit for making it possible for the white nationalist movement to have an effect on the Republican Party.
Open your eyes.
Are you in the habit of treating white nationalists as intelligent and wise political analysts? I hope not. I sure don't think that highly of them. Frankly, I don't see them having any effect at all the Republican Party, so I'd say that guy is full of shit. Big surprise!
Can you name him? The only one I know of is Richard Spencer and he currently leads nobody.
Donald Trump - "I am a (White) Nationalist"...
He has too much money to actually buy that bullshit. Nationalism is for the poor and stupid. It is a tool to guide them into putting their energy into something that it ultimately pointless, and that will get a lot of them killed.