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Bombs Sent In Mail To Hillary Clinton and Obama

  

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Via:  johnrussell  •  8 years ago  •  278 comments

Bombs Sent In Mail To Hillary Clinton and Obama

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WASHINGTON — A U.S. official says a “functional explosive device” was found at Hillary and Bill Clinton’s suburban New York home.

News sources are also is reporting that a similar device was sent to the home of Barack Obama.

The official says investigators believe the explosive is linked to one found Monday at the compound of liberal billionaire George Soros.

The official wasn't authorized to publicly discuss an ongoing investigation and spoke on condition of anonymity.

The device was discovered early Wednesday morning at the Clinton's home in Chappaqua, New York.

Police in New Castle, New York, who cover Chappaqua, say they assisted the FBI, Secret Service and Westchester County authorities in “the investigation of a suspicious package.”





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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    8 years ago

Those pesky mobs of liberals are at it again. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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1.1  KDMichigan  replied to  JohnRussell @1    8 years ago
Those pesky mobs of liberals are at it again. 

Well seeing the return address was Debbie Wasserman Schultz It appears it was them pesky liberals. The funny thing is, she is that stupid that she would use her own address.

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif  

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.1.1  1stwarrior  replied to  KDMichigan @1.1    8 years ago

Officials are investigating a series of apparent explosive devices sent to Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN and Eric Holder

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2  Hal A. Lujah    8 years ago

I blame Soros.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2    8 years ago

It will be interesting to see how Trump responds, knowing full well as he does that news of bombs sent to Clinton and Obama and Soros, and CNN, make some of his best supporters happy. 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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2.1.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    8 years ago

It's said that Sarah Sanders has already put out an official statement on this.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  seeder  JohnRussell    8 years ago

NBC is reporting that police are investigating a possible mail bomb at the CNN offices in New York City. 

CNN office in NYC has been evacuated. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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3.1  KDMichigan  replied to  JohnRussell @3    8 years ago

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JohnRussell
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3.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  KDMichigan @3.1    8 years ago

I don't know why you keep bringing something up that completely and totally embarrassed you. You might want to rethink that as a plan. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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3.1.2  KDMichigan  replied to  KDMichigan @3.1    8 years ago

How is my comment about those seeking shelter after being evacuated off topic when the seeder introduced the off topic?

 
 
 
lady in black
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6  lady in black    8 years ago

Another normal day in orange conman traitor in chiefs America.

 
 
 
luther28
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7  luther28    8 years ago

Now Mr. Trumps bombastic reality show blither blather is finally getting real.

How do you like it now folks, let me ask you are you entertained yet?

 
 
 
Rmando
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9  Rmando    8 years ago

Until we know more details about the culprit(s) the left should be very careful about accusations. After the failures of the Kavanaugh smear and the northbound mob I wouldn't be surprised if some deranged leftist sent these as false flags.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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9.1  Spikegary  replied to  Rmando @9    8 years ago

Especially after the last few years, spray painting offices while trying to blame Republicans, found out to be democrats.  The smart money says don't speculate, becuase it may well make you look like a fool at some point.

So, someone thought sending explosive devices, right before the mid-term elections would benefit the Republicans?  That doesn't pass the smell test.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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9.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Spikegary @9.1    8 years ago
spray painting offices while trying to blame Republicans

do you have a source for that? Because I don't remember it

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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9.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Rmando @9    8 years ago
After the failures of the Kavanaugh smear and the northbound mob I wouldn't be surprised if some deranged leftist sent these as false flags.

Wow, that's even impressive  compared to the usual rightwing desperation defensiveness. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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10  It Is ME    8 years ago

Sent to themselves through a surrogate.

Soro's, and the Clintons...…. hmmmmmmm. Very Trustworthy folks. jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

Someone's gonna take the fall for the ROYAL family , with talking points too. jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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10.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  It Is ME @10    8 years ago
Sent to themselves through a surrogate.

Soro's, and the Clintons...…. hmmmmmmm. Very Trustworthy folks.

Someone's gonna take the fall for the ROYAL family , with talking points too. 

Got a link proving this? I won't hold my breath waiting.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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10.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @10.1    8 years ago
Got a link proving this?

Always fun to see questions like that, especially from supporters.

Gotta a Link proving it's wrong ? jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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10.1.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  It Is ME @10.1.1    8 years ago
Gotta a Link proving it's wrong ? 

You having a big laugh about it is proof enough.   Pro tip:  Cute doesn't work for you. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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10.1.5  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @10.1.4    8 years ago
He's doing his typical patented ItIsMe shuffle. 

Your shtick is just Old !

 
 
 
It Is ME
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10.1.6  It Is ME  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @10.1.3    8 years ago
You having a big laugh about it is proof enough.   Pro tip:  Cute doesn't work for you. 

hmmmmm….interesting. jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

You STILL trying to be cuter than me is funny !

Now.....how 'bout those Fake Bomb threats. Anything about it from you ?

 
 
 
It Is ME
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10.1.9  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @10.1.8    8 years ago

Who ?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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10.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @10    8 years ago

Right wing bamboozlers are out to have everything on earth declared "questionable" . When you achieve that, what will you have?  A world gone mad? A hotbed of pointless anarchy?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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10.2.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  JohnRussell @10.2    8 years ago

 
 
 
It Is ME
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10.2.2  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @10.2    8 years ago
Right wing bamboozlers are out to have everything on earth declared "questionable"

Smart folks question !

Dumb folks just accept !

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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10.2.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @10.2.2    8 years ago

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It Is ME
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10.2.4  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @10.2.3    8 years ago

Question  !

 
 
 
Spikegary
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10.2.5  Spikegary  replied to  JohnRussell @10.2    8 years ago

As opposed to a world where on the left, they say something with no support, no proof, etc., etc. and expect the world to accept it at face value?  I know you're smarter than that.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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10.2.6  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  It Is ME @10.2.2    8 years ago

Trumpsters lie.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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10.2.7  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Spikegary @10.2.5    8 years ago
As opposed to a world where on the left, they say something with no support, no proof, etc., etc. and expect the world to accept it at face value?

And you wouldn't know anything about that, right?jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
It Is ME
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10.2.8  It Is ME  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @10.2.6    8 years ago
Trumpsters lie.

Do they ?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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10.2.9  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Spikegary @10.2.5    8 years ago

There is FAR MORE fake news emanating from the right, and even from the mouth of your president. That is common knowledge at this point. 

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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10.2.10  A. Macarthur  replied to  It Is ME @10.2.8    8 years ago
Trumpsters lie.

Do they ?

Tell you what … I will post verified examples of Trump's lies since taking office … if you will only say the word.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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10.2.11  It Is ME  replied to  A. Macarthur @10.2.10    8 years ago
Tell you what … I will post verified examples of Trump's lies since taking office

But that's NOT what the statement noted.

The Statement was : TRUMPSTERS lie.

Did you miss that part ?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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10.2.12  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @10.2.11    8 years ago

Are you claiming that Trumpsters don't lie?

 
 
 
It Is ME
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10.2.13  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @10.2.12    8 years ago
Are you claiming that Trumpsters don't lie?

Do you think I Lie ?

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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10.2.14  A. Macarthur  replied to  It Is ME @10.2.11    8 years ago
Tell you what … I will post verified examples of Trump's lies since taking office

But that's NOT what the statement noted.

The Statement was : TRUMPSTERS lie.

Did you miss that part ?

Every time a Trumpster cites a verifiable fact as "fake news" because Trump incited him to pass it on … as they have done herein and everywhere from day one, THEY LIE!

And the willful failure not to call out Trump's lies, makes Trumpsters proxy liars.

So, shall I give you the opportunity to try and prove me wrong, my doing so by posting many of Trump's lies, thus giving you a way to call them out as such, or, validate his "lie" via specific refutation … as being actually, the truth?

Or, should we just go fishing and leave it alone?

 
 
 
It Is ME
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10.2.16  It Is ME  replied to  A. Macarthur @10.2.14    8 years ago
Every time a Trumpster cites a verifiable fact as "fake news"

The ONLY verifiable fact in this seed, is that the Clintons (and Soros) got a package in the mail. Nothing more, nothing less. As to what I said or what others have said to the viability of who done it and why, It's ALL up in the air.  jrSmiley_20_smiley_image.gif

The MSM, for the last two or so years, makes it just AOK to do the "Conjecture" thingy.

One's "Conjecture" isn't any better than another's anymore !

And that's the FACTS ......Jack ! jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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10.2.17  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @10.2.13    8 years ago

It depends on what you will say. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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10.2.18  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @10.2.17    8 years ago
It depends on what you will say. 

Do you think I lie ?

It's a simple question. jrSmiley_32_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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10.2.19  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Kathleen @10.2.15    8 years ago

Every person in that movie was a star at the time it was made, I have never seen that many stars in one movie since with as many lines as this group had and, the slapstick was just as great.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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10.2.20  Trout Giggles  replied to  Spikegary @10.2.5    8 years ago
As opposed to a world where on the left, they say something with no support, no proof, etc., etc. and

??????

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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10.2.21  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @10.2.9    8 years ago
even from the mouth of your president.

rioting in California, ISIS embedded in the caravan, free luxury cars for illegals.....

 
 
 
lady in black
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10.2.22  lady in black  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.2.21    8 years ago

Orange conman traitor in chief the minister of misinformation that the deporables lap up and want more.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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11  seeder  JohnRussell    8 years ago

Bomb sent to CNN was addressed to ex CIA chief John Brennan, a frequent target of Donald Trump's rants. 

Brennan occasionally appears on CNN as a guest. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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12  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו    8 years ago

Never mind these assassination attempts.  WHATABOUT people YELLING at Republicans in RESTAURANTS or in the STREET!!!!!!!

 
 
 
cms5
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13  cms5    8 years ago

Actually -

Two explosive devices were found in mail sent to former President Barack Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, officials said on Wednesday, sparking an intensive investigation into whether a bomber is targeting prominent Democratic figures.
“The packages were immediately identified during routine mail screening procedures as potential explosive devices and were appropriately handled as such,” the statement said. “The protectees did not receive the packages nor were they at risk of receiving them .”

I am not making light of the situation - just correcting the story. That is, if the intent is to remain factual.

The package addressed to Mr. Obama was intercepted early on Wednesday by Secret Service personnel in Washington, who screened mail for the White House.

The article ends with:

Early this month, federal authorities said they intercepted multiple packages suspected of containing the lethal substance ricin , addressed to President Trump and at least two top Pentagon officials.

This is where this country is headed...there are so many who hate the President and his party, and then we have those who hate the former President and his party. Lethal tit-for-tat. Totally unacceptable. Attempting to toss any of these incidents into anyone's face is extremely juvenile...as neither is 'better' than the other.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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13.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  cms5 @13    8 years ago

Funny, you'd "correct" something that was never stated.  I "like" how you equated animosity and occasional harsh words against this fascist-loving Scumbag of a "president" we have now and sending lethal devices in the mail to Dems.  That's "bothersiderist" bullshit to the max.  

 
 
 
cms5
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13.1.1  cms5  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @13.1    8 years ago
Funny, you'd "correct" something that was never stated.  

You did read what was posted right?

WASHINGTON — A U.S. official says a “functional explosive device” was found at Hillary and Bill Clinton’s suburban New York home.
News sources are also is reporting that a similar device was sent to the home of Barack Obama.

Neither explosive device made it to the home of Clinton or Obama.

I "like" how you equated animosity and occasional harsh words against this fascist-loving Scumbag of a "president" we have now and sending lethal devices in the mail to Dems.  That's "bothersiderist" bullshit to the max.

I find sending biological weapons to Trump and Pentagon officials to be as lethal as sending bombs to Obama and Clinton. Neither is acceptable. If you feel that that's bullshit...you are certainly entitled to your own opinion. Obviously, the similarities go beyond animosity or harsh words...and the inability to see that is frightening.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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13.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  cms5 @13    8 years ago
Attempting to toss any of these incidents into anyone's face is extremely juvenile...as neither is 'better' than the other.

Yes, yes, let's all be reasonable when right wing extremists attack Americans, bomb clinics, assassinate doctors or ram their cars into crowds of peaceful protesters. Funny how that never seems to get mentioned when it's conservatives reacting after hearing one of their candidates was punched in the arm or some nut job shot at them at a baseball game. All I hear from conservatives on those seeds is how all liberals and progressives must support antifa, are violent and are the problem and how America would be so much better without them. But as soon as some right wing inspired violence happens they're all about not casting any blame.

 
 
 
cms5
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13.4.1  cms5  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @13.4    8 years ago

Perhaps you and I are viewing the latest lethal attempts differently. I see it as an extreme escalation that will not be resolved by playing the blame game, or 'my party is better than your party'. Whoever is responsible should be prosecuted. Period.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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13.4.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  cms5 @13.4.1    8 years ago
Whoever is responsible should be prosecuted. Period.

I completely agree. My point was that it feels very much like there is a double standard when it comes to pointing fingers. Anything that even hints at a liberal or progressive connection, even something as innocuous as interrupting some conservatives dinner, is used as evidence of all liberals and progressives being intolerant, violent and unworthy of being called Americans. But when it's blatantly obvious right wing inspired violence, whether it be ramming a car into peaceful protesters, shooting nearly a dozen black Americans while they worshiped in a Church, bombing an abortion clinic, shooting a doctor in the head, shooting up a mosque, stabbing people on a train or sending bombs to numerous targets of conservative Republican ire, the conservative Republicans always deflect any blame and say we should stay focused on prosecuting those responsible and that its really a mental health issue, not a conservative right wing pundit rhetoric problem.

 
 
 
cms5
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13.4.3  cms5  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @13.4.2    8 years ago
My point was that it feels very much like there is a double standard when it comes to pointing fingers.

I understand your point ... and have heard it made by the 'other' side as well. Unfortunately, that doesn't resolve the issue of the radical Right or Left resorting to LETHAL tactics. This Nation is really into fault finding and laying blame on the political front - BOTH sides are guilty.

Tell me...what would you want the 'other side' to say to you?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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13.4.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  cms5 @13.4.3    8 years ago
Tell me...what would you want the 'other side' to say to you?

I want the "other side" to accept that their rhetoric has killed people, more so than even any left wing rhetoric, because that's what the facts show. I want the other side to denounce the outright lies coming from their President when he claims without proof that Democrats are somehow funding a caravan of immigrants which supposedly include hundreds of ISIS terrorists coming to destroy America. I want them to denounce the President when he falsely claims the media is the "enemy of the people" and gins up fear of liberals and progressives as if they're the boogey man coming to convert your wives into "femi-nazis" and infect your kids and husbands with a bad case of the "gays" or worse, turn them transgender. It's that kind of fear-mongering that I see coming from right wing pundits nearly daily that inspires the nut jobs and extremists. So don't just denounce the violence, denounce the vile hateful rhetoric that inspires it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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15  seeder  JohnRussell    8 years ago

Bomb possibly also sent to office of Debby Wasserman Schultz

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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16  A. Macarthur    8 years ago

DONALD TRUMP'S "AMERICA" … Racism, Xenophobia, Misogyny, White Supremacists, Neo-Nazis, A Complicit Republican-controlled Congress, Assault on the Truth, Ass-Kissing of Authoritarians, Incompetence, Anti-Semitism … enabling/encouraging of violence, incessant lying, gun-worship, incarceration of children, voter-suppression … a rigged Supreme Court, a White House likely compromised by Vladimir Putin, a shitload of Trump conflicts-of-interests, Nepotism, Tax Cuts for the Wealthy to be subsidized by destruction of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, Trumps recent action to allow states to kill health insurance affordability for people with cancer, children with diabetes … [deleted]

Will one of you Trump supporters specify what that actually means?

Shall I go on?

… A Jess Willard base of supporters … MAWA!

Let the flaggers begin … but fail to address directly anything specific in my comment!

… a stolen election and two SCOTUS Seats!

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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16.1  Nowhere Man  replied to  A. Macarthur @16    8 years ago
… a stolen election and two SCOTUS Seats!

My sincere hope is your playing to the crowd my friend..... (I know your smarter than this)

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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16.1.2  A. Macarthur  replied to  Nowhere Man @16.1    8 years ago

The (Grand) jury is still out on a number of things ... I’ll recant if time proves me wrong.

I’ve been through a hundred grievance procedures and many arbitrations to off-handedly ignore so much handwriting on the wall.

To quote Trump, “Let’s see what happens.”

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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16.1.3  A. Macarthur  replied to  XDm9mm @16.1.1    8 years ago

Maybe, maybe not. We’ll see.

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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17  A. Macarthur    8 years ago

Pardon my "SWEEPING SPECIFICATION".

Not.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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18  seeder  JohnRussell    8 years ago

Bomb was also sent to Eric Holder

 
 
 
It Is ME
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19  It Is ME    8 years ago

Funny ….. in a Weird sort of way:

Bill and Hillary Announce their "Memory Tour" jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif ……  and ALL-OF-A-SUDDEN......JUST LIKE THAT ...…. Here comes the mail.

hmmmmmmmmm …… interestingly WEIRD ! jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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19.1  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  It Is ME @19    8 years ago
and ALL-OF-A-SUDDEN......JUST LIKE THAT ...…. Here comes the mail. hmmmmmmmmm …… interestingly WEIRD !

Maybe this time they'll take the hint.

To Hillary, "Thank you for your service, it is now time to step aside, retire and STFU we got it from here. Thank you. "

Signed, the democratic party and the nation. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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19.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @19.1    8 years ago

It's not like they need the money. They're more of a Narcissist than Trump is. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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19.1.3  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Tessylo @19.1.2    8 years ago
Don't speak for the democratic party and the nation Steve.

OK I’ll rephrase my statement:

To: Mrs. Hillary Clinton,
Hello, although I voted for you in the last election I want to "Thank you very much for your service, But, IMO: I think it is now time for you to step aside, go enjoy your retirement and please STFU because as you can see others with so much less baggage real and/or imagined have got it covered from here.

Thank you again and best of luck to you, your family and our county. MRS, Clinton you may not realize it or not but association with your name now is instantly tainted to many just as the trump name taints issues for others .

Thanks again."

321steve

PS: IMO: Hillary would be doing the democratic party a big favor IF she would take my advice. But to each their own.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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19.1.5  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Tessylo @19.1.4    8 years ago
No better.

Ahh come on I sweetened it up and toned it down a little just for Mrs.Clinton. 

So, I get Zero points for my extra thought, time and effort ?  Damn. 

Well next time I won't waste my time then she can just read as it as it is.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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19.2  Sparty On  replied to  It Is ME @19    8 years ago

Time will tell.

The main thing is we find out who sent these and nail their butts to the wall.

Unfortunately, if they know what they are doing, information will likely not be readily forthcoming.   Those old enough to remember know how long it took to catch the Uni-bomber.    Years .....

 
 
 
It Is ME
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19.2.1  It Is ME  replied to  Sparty On @19.2    8 years ago
The main thing is we find out who sent these and nail their butts to the wall.

Yep.

If it is connected though, it will just disappear into the wind.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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19.2.2  arkpdx  replied to  Sparty On @19.2    8 years ago

And a brother that ratted him out. 

 
 
 
JBB
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19.3  JBB  replied to  It Is ME @19    8 years ago

Nothing is funny about sending bombs to Obamas and Clintons...

 
 
 
PJ
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19.3.1  PJ  replied to  JBB @19.3    8 years ago

It's disturbing how some can make light of this situation.  They do not comprehend that this is just one more step in elevating the danger within the country.  They have become desensitized.  

The excuses have started. 

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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21  A. Macarthur    8 years ago

Let Us Begin …

A look back at Trump comments perceived by some as encouraging violence

https:// .go.com/Politics/back-trump-comments-perceived-encouraging-violence/story?id=48415766

Trump’s words show that yes, he has encouraged violence

Trump Is Celebrating Violence and Nationalism at His Rallies

Republicans aren’t pushing back.

Reports: Trump warned evangelical leaders of ‘violence’ from the left if Republicans lose the midterms

'Morning Joe' plays montage of the many times Trump encouraged violence

If you beat up a protester at Trump’s rally, he’ll cover your legal fees.

After receiving a notice from his security that someone might be planning to throw tomatoes at him ( again ), Trump told his supporters to “knock the crap out of them … I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees.” The crowd vociferously cheered him on.

From 'Satanic' to 'Anti-Christ': Pro-Trump Attacks on George Soros Intensify as Midterms Approach

A day after  praising a Republican congressman for assaulting a reporter , President Donald Trump posted a video message on Twitter Friday calling Democrats an “angry mob” that is “losing it.”

Trump: Eric Holder "Better Be Careful What He's Wishing For"

Trump blasts former CIA Director John Brennan as 'loudmouth, partisan, political hack'

This might be Trump's most inflammatory anti-CNN tweet yet

IMO, Trump Supplied Motives … Multiple Times … and … Incitement …

" Advocacy of force or criminal activity does not receive First Amendment protections if (1) the advocacy is directed to  inciting  or producing  imminent  lawless action, and (2) is likely to  incite  or produce such action."

In U.S.  criminal law ,  means, motive, and opportunity  is a common summation of the three aspects of a crime that must be established before guilt can possibly be determined in a  criminal proceeding . Respectively, they refer to: the ability of the defendant to commit the crime (means), the reason the defendant committed the crime ( motive ), and whether the defendant had the chance to commit the crime (opportunity).

I see lots of rhetoric in this thread … so … this is my rhetoric … those posting one liners and apologies for the Trump presidency … let's see you make a case … mount a thoughtful, logical argument against mine … whaddya' say?

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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21.1  Nowhere Man  replied to  A. Macarthur @21    8 years ago

Really? do I really need to post a long line of quotes from the other side doing the exact same thing?

My friend, we are in a systemic meltdown. the crazies are in control.

And we only have ourselves to blame for it....

I just hope no one lights a match with all the swamp gases being passed around as reality...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
21.1.1  JBB  replied to  Nowhere Man @21.1    8 years ago

Of course anyone could make a long list of people from either side making ill advised inflamatory remarks. Trump is President of the United States of America. See the difference?

 
 
 
Uncle Bruce
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24  Uncle Bruce    8 years ago

False Flag.  You know this was a deranged Democrat.  They didn't go off.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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24.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Uncle Bruce @24    8 years ago
You know this was a deranged Democrat. 

Prove it.

 
 
 
Uncle Bruce
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24.1.1  Uncle Bruce  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @24.1    8 years ago

How about you prove me wrong.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
24.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Uncle Bruce @24.1.1    8 years ago
How about you prove me wrong.

lol. Why don't you prove Trump didn't personally order the construction and delivery of the bombs? That is how much sense you are making. 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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24.1.3  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Uncle Bruce @24.1.1    8 years ago

You're the one who made the claim, so, prove it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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24.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Release The Kraken @24.1.4    8 years ago

Some half brain who admires Trump could have easily planned and executed this plot. 

I've seen many such a candidate on various videos where dimwits say they admire Trump for various inexplicable reasons. 

 
 
 
Uncle Bruce
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24.1.6  Uncle Bruce  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @24.1.3    8 years ago

Uh...no.  I don't play your silly fuck-fuck games.  If you disagree, make your case.

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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24.1.7  A. Macarthur  replied to  Uncle Bruce @24.1.1    8 years ago
How about you prove me wrong.
Not how it goes, Bruce! You make the allegation, you have the obligation of satisfying the "Burden of Proof." 
Blame the victim … really?
Victim blaming occurs when the victim of a crime or any wrongful act is held entirely or partially at fault for the harm that befell them. The study of victimology seeks to mitigate the perception of victims as responsible.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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24.1.10  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @24.1.5    8 years ago
Some half brain who admires Trump could have easily planned and executed this plot. 

A "half brain" who admired Bernie Sanders, James Hodginson, planned and executed a plot to murder dozens of Republicans on a baseball field in cold blood in 2017. Your point?

Perhaps it's time to tone down the partisan speculation and Trump hatred by allowing all levels of professional law enforcement to do their jobs and report on their findings.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
24.1.11  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jasper2529 @24.1.10    8 years ago

Well, to be honest with you, Trump should resign immediately whether one of his followers is responsible for these bombs or not. They are actually immaterial to his fitness for office. 

He's been a disgrace every single day he's been there. 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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24.1.12  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Jasper2529 @24.1.10    8 years ago
Perhaps it's time to tone down the partisan speculation and Trump hatred by allowing all levels of professional law enforcement to do their jobs and report on their findings.

Trump is the one who started the hate fest, let him tone it down, everyone of the people targeted by this shithead is on Trumps hate list, every single one of them, you want this shit to stop, start in your own political backyard with your president.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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24.1.13  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @24.1.12    8 years ago
Trump is the one who started the hate fest,

IMO: The "hate feist" was already in motion trump just capitalized on it but now feeds it. Many conservative minded folks  were already plenty unhappy about the direction america was headed and the "established" government. They were just looking for a leader.  

IMO: President trump probably doesn't really hate these people or groups he verbally constantly attacks.

IMO: But, President trump USES anyone and anything he can to advance His agendas so he does. 

IMO: To trump not much of this is probably also not real personal it's just what he is and does this is part of his ways and means of accomplishment.

"Words to me dont mean much, its deeds that matter !"

IMO: President trump USES anyone and anything he can to advance His agendas at any cost and that isn't likely to ever change. 

Good Luck America

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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24.1.14  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @24.1.13    8 years ago
To trump not much of this is probably also not real personal it's just what he is and does this is part of his ways and means of accomplishment.

"Words to me dont mean much, its deeds that matter !"

IMO: President trump USES anyone and anything he can to advance His agendas at any cost and that isn't likely to ever change.

So, what you're saying is, Trump won't do anything about his rhetoric until this bomber succeeds in blowing up one of Trumps perceived enemies, like Hillary or, Bill or, the Obama's or, Holder or, Waters or, any combination of the group mentioned today and, his supporters will probably say, "So, they deserved it, 'Lock her up'".

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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24.1.15  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @24.1.14    8 years ago
So, what you're saying is, Trump won't do anything about his rhetoric until this bomber succeeds in blowing up one of Trumps perceived enemies,

Not at all. His using people and anything will not change. Other than that trump is likely to say whatever advances his agendas, Including as he is currently portraying  (till his next rally) now promoting..."Unity" his newest " buzz word of the day" 

One of my conscious decisions quite some time ago concerning this man was to stop underestimating him. I'm glad I did. BTW: I decided that when hardly anyone thought he'd even be elected, I questioned whether he would on nv every damn day, lol...

He did.

PS: not with my vote. 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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24.1.16  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @24.1.15    8 years ago
One of my conscious decisions quite some time ago concerning this man was to stop underestimating him. I'm glad I did. BTW: I decided that when hardly anyone thought he'd even be elected, I questioned whether he would on nv every damn day, lol...

He did.

PS: not with my vote.

You and, me both steve, I kept saying if Hillary and, the DNC didn't wake up Trump would be sitting in the White House, also without my vote.

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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24.1.17  Nowhere Man  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @24.1.15    8 years ago

I was the one that predicted a T-rump win here to great derision... (and no he didn't get my vote either) 

I was telling them that the campaign of hate and the "Mountain of Trash" was a gift that kept giving and giving....

But they don't listen. T-rump is a master of bringing out the worst in an opponent then taking advantage of it.

America will survive T-rump the same as we survived Clinton, Bush II & Obama. But I really don't know how much more we as a people can take....

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
24.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Uncle Bruce @24    8 years ago

Donald Trump (reading like a sleepwalker off a teleprompter) said today that he wants America to unify. 

Let's take him at his word. Let him resign the presidency immediately and the country can begin to start healing. 

Short of that sincere gesture, Trump has nothing to offer in the way of "unity". He belongs more in prison than he belongs lecturing the American people from a pulpit. 

He has to go. There will be no sincere civil "unity" until that happens. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
24.2.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @24.2    8 years ago
Let him resign the presidency immediately and the country can begin to start healing.

Of course, that would be like replacing an old, half-blind, mange ridden, addle brained golden retriever with a sly silver fox to guard your hen house...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
24.2.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @24.2.1    8 years ago

Pence may not be any better, but he's not the president now and Trump is. The president has repeatedly disgraced his office and needs to resign. If Pence were to do the same then he should resign also at that time. One thing at a time. 

I have a strong feeling Pence will be just a placeholder until 2020. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
24.2.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Release The Kraken @24.2.3    8 years ago

Trump hasnt been civil a single day he has been in office

He doesnt need to go because he didnt get enough votes

He needs to go because he disgraces his office and the American nation and people every day

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
24.2.7  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @24.2    8 years ago

We'd rather have him stay and keep doing the great job he is doing

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
24.2.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XDm9mm @24.2.6    8 years ago
Speak for yourself and ONLY yourself JR.

Considering Trump has a low 40's approval rating and an over 50% disapproval rating in the polls, he speaks for a lot of people. The majority do not support such a feckless embarrassment and can't wait till he's either removed, steps down or is overwhelmingly voted out of office.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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24.2.9  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @24.2.4    8 years ago

"because he didn't get enough votes"

John - for perhaps the 50th time, he is your education update -  The Electoral College determines through voting who the President and Vice President of the U.S. will be during a Presidential Election.

U. S. Constitution, Article II, Section 1, 2.  "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress:"

3. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed;

In the 2016 Presidential Election, Donald Trump received 307 Electoral Votes - Hillary Clinton received 224 Electoral Votes.  307 votes is 57 % of the Official, Constitutionally authorized Electoral Votes.  307 is larger than 224, hence "more than", so your statement is so blatantly incorrect.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
24.2.10  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  1stwarrior @24.2.9    8 years ago

Your comment is completely irrelevant to what I said.  I hope you get better. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
24.2.12  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XDm9mm @24.2.11    8 years ago
I believe that will occur in January 2025 when he leaves office.

And you're welcome to your belief. I believe that's wildly improbable and definitely an alarming prospect for our nations future. There has never been a more feckless, crude, divisive, ignorant, narcissistic, incompetent imbecile than Donald Trump. You simply cannot pick a worse, more dangerous leader for the most powerful nation in the world. And besides all that, he's an enormous asshat to boot.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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24.2.13  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Release The Kraken @24.2.3    8 years ago
Whether you like it or not the man was elected not by just one or two people. You either respect elections in this country or you don't.

Yeah, we know, he was elected by 538 people in a room,

They convened amid unusual scrutiny, widespread protests and rafts of speculation about efforts to alter the outcome, but, in the end, the nation's 538 presidential electors mostly stuck to the script Monday, formally sealing Donald Trump's victory with 304 votes in the electoral college, well above what he needed to capture the White House.
After all the efforts to lobby Republican electors to desert Trump, only two did — a pair from Texas, one of whom voted for former Rep. Ron Paul and the other for Ohio Gov. John Kasich.

 
 
 
lady in black
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24.3  lady in black  replied to  Uncle Bruce @24    8 years ago

And you know this how?  Do you have a crystal ball? 

 
 
 
PJ
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24.3.1  PJ  replied to  lady in black @24.3    8 years ago

He has two and I'm guessing they're easily shattered.  jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
24.3.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  lady in black @24.3    8 years ago
Do you have a crystal ball? 

Speaking of which, where's she been? Haven't seen her on MSNBC in a long time.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
24.4  JBB  replied to  Uncle Bruce @24    8 years ago

The far far far right winger's knee jerk pronouncements that these bombs must be a false flag operation executed by the victims themselves or a deranged liberal are all already being roundly ridiculed by pretty much all knowledgeable sources on TV, in the news and online. Nobody, and I do mean nobody, is buying that bullshit already though the immediate claiming this must be a false flag operation of a Democrat was expected. It has become cliche. That so many dependablly wrong headed conspiracy nutters will immediately started hollering, "False Flag", right on cue just goes to show how many Info Wars level nutters there are out there anymore. I suspect it is something all those far far far righties are getting from all those snake oil supplements Alex Jones and his ilk are always insisting their sad sick followers buy and consume. That, at least, would explain the mass insanity suffered by so many far far far righties on social media yesterday. Just look at how many immediately began with the loopy false flag claims. It was like they all got the same lame brained impulse at exactly the same time. I mean BOOM! Right on cue. It is like that every single time. How else could such a ridiculous phemenon be explained?

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
25  livefreeordie    8 years ago

This seems to the most obvious false flag operation by the Dems showing just how desperate they are getting about the midterms 

320

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
25.1  JBB  replied to  livefreeordie @25    8 years ago

We should know soon enough but low probability on your theory...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
25.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  livefreeordie @25    8 years ago

"Deep State Playbook is easier to read than Doctor Suess"

It's also just as fictitious. Your imagined Clapperzapp and Brennanzunner using the patented whisper-ma-phone to pass on fantasy conspiracy-woo's will never be as real as Sylvester McDonald McTrump (calling himself a Fix-It-Up Chappie) and his fabulous Lie-On machine. And all of the conservative Sneetches on the beaches believed the Lie-on machine and ignorantly gave all their money to the sly Fix-it-up Chappie. This continues until the conservative Sneetches are penniless and McTrump departs as a rich man, amused by their folly. Despite his assertion that "you can't teach a Sneetch", the Sneetches learn from this experience that neither liberal plain-belly nor conservative star-belly Sneetches are superior, and they are able to get along and become friends. The end.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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25.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  livefreeordie @25    8 years ago

Pretty sure it is lizard people. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
26  seeder  JohnRussell    8 years ago

seen at GOP candidate rally tonight

512

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
26.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @26    8 years ago

I could safely predict that woman is a moron. There are many people at these rallies who appear to be barely able to tie their own shoes. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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26.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @26.1    8 years ago

Well, John, if in your opinion anyone who supports Trump is a moron, that's not saying much for the general level of intelligence in the USA.

I know YOU'RE not a moron, so I'm sure you understand that my comment was not at all supportive of Trump, but if you DO think so, then I have to rethink my opinion.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
27  seeder  JohnRussell    8 years ago

TV news says crowd at Trump rally tonight is chanting "Lock Her Up"

(just saw it on the news, and yes they are)

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Silent
27.1  PJ  replied to  JohnRussell @27    8 years ago

Yes, I just saw a clip of that also.  jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif   There is something wrong with these people.....something warped and broken.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
28  Buzz of the Orient    8 years ago

I think it's impossible these days to tell if something like this is false flag or actual. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
28.1  JBB  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @28    8 years ago

Dont't be daft! When the perps are identified their motivation will be revealed. In any case, there is nothing false flag about real bombs being sent to liberals or political leaders. This shit will not just be dismissed. These are serious crimes threatening prominent Americans including a past President. We will find out who did this and why. Your short sighted comment above not withstanding, there are ways to find out who did this and why. False Flag? My Ass! I guess they just ignore bombs sent to the leaders of China? Good grief! Wage up and smell the coffee, or tea. Bombs, real live bombs, have been sent to the Clinons, Mr Soros home, the governor's office and CNN for gosh sake. What is wrong with people?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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32  Thrawn 31    8 years ago

Let both political parties take a pipe bomb to the face, fuck'em. 

 
 

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