Trump Unveils Plans For Tent Cities That Sound A Lot Like Concentration Camps
TRUMP: Anybody throwing stones, rocks, like they did to Mexico and the Mexican military and police where they badly hurt police and soldiers of Mexico, we will consider that a firearm because there's not much difference.
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Donald Trump is a pathetic, scared, hateful and desperate man. You can see it in his frantic, lie-filled MAGA rallies over the last 2 weeks. His frantic statements to reporters have been even more illustrative of his panic.
On Thursday he held a press conference regarding his immigration plans. If he actually implements them, they involve sending 15,000 troops to our border to meet a caravan that is 1,000 miles (and 5 weeks) away from the border. He is tweeting despicable things (which Fox promotes) about a caravan being filled with disease-infested gang members (and some Muslims) who want to come to the border to slaughter Americans. Anything to rile up that base.
Here is what he said:
TRUMP: Anybody throwing stones, rocks, like they did to Mexico and the Mexican military and police where they badly hurt police and soldiers of Mexico, we will consider that a firearm because there's not much difference. When you get hit in the face with a rock, which, as you know, it was very violent a few days ago, very, very violent, that break-in. It was a break-in into a country. They broke into Mexico, and -- and you look at what's happening in Guatemala, just to mention Guatemala along with El Salvador and Honduras, it's disgraceful that those countries aren't able to stop this, because they should be able to stop it before it starts and the United States pays them a fortune and we're looking at not doing that anymore because why should we be doing that when they do nothing for us?
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Trump is threatening to have the United States Army open fire on impoverished Latin Americans who throw rocks across the border. Are you proud yet "conservatives" ?
In fact the Nigerian army just quoted Trump as justification for killing 45 protesters.
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In related news, it turns out Trump wanted US soldiers to be enforcing laws in direct violation of the Posse Comitatus Act but the DoD ignored him:
we will consider that a firearm because there's not much difference.
What is this "we" shit orangeman? A rock, while a possible weapon sure the hell is not a firearm.
Trump is drooling over the prospect of the US Army firing on a rag tag band of "alien" invaders who threw rocks at them. What a sicko.
It's like he wants a carbon copy of what is happening in Israel
It does have a surface similarity.
There is a very very simple solution to this whole problem. The caravan just needs to hold up posters and signs stating, "We are from Norway".
That actually might fool HIM.
It's like he wants a carbon copy of what is happening in Israel
How's it a carbon copy? The migrant mob have rockets?
Palestinians got killed just for throwing rocks
His sheeple are drooling over his latest lie. He says 97% seeking asylum never show up to court. The percentage is 28%. No commanders will throw away their careers by ordering soldiers to open fire on civilians. Trump wants a repeat of the Mei Lei massacre.
Ok, everyone knows I am no defender of Israel; but not all Palestinian protesters just throw rocks. Hamas puts their militants with rocket launchers, grenades/molotov cocktails/and other weapons among the protesting rock throwers.
Also, the Palestinians are protesting Israel's illegal occupation and control of Palestinian land, borders, water rights, air space, and port. Whereas this supposed peaceful caravan of soon to be illegal immigrants is trying to invade US soil, and claim what they have no right to.
Now, as for the blatant stupidity of comparing US military run tent cities to concentration camps. All of those doing so should be forced to take the grand tour of all of the real concentration camps in Germany, the killing fields in Cambodia, and the Stalin internment camps is Russia and former Soviet Union countries. It would give a real perspective on what a concentration camp really is.
US military run tent cities are not forced labor camps. The illegals will be given access to doctors (better than any they could afford to see in their countries); medical supplies; food; water; sanitation services that actually work (a first for many of them); legal representation; and the Red Cross, media, and any other activist group that can gain legal entry to the camps to report on the living conditions. So no hiding in the open like any of the concentration camps I mentioned earlier.
As for armed US military forces at the border. Yes, they need to be armed- because chances are they will be outnumbered- and guns are a great equalizer. Also, the military has ample experience of dealing with and containing large groups of potentially violent protesters. While Trump may be an idiot, the US military is not. The last thing they want is a black eye of US soldiers firing on reportedly unarmed illegal border stormers. Expect paint ball guns, tear gas, stun grenades (flash bangs), and possibly water cannons- depending on the crossing area to be used.
If we allow this caravan to succeed many others will follow. A second one is already forming. We cannot support the entire planet. We don't have nearly the resources to do so.
Wonder is encouraging all of these illegal migrant caravans to be forming now? They don't do Trump and the Republicans any good. Any incidents at the border will be a media and Democrat fodder. It will come out sooner or later who that backers are. Once it does they need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Assuming the Russians or Chinese aren't behind this; but that would blow the lefts meme about Trump being a Russian bot apart.
Rocks can and are used as weapons. Do you think that the troops should have to sue rocks also?
I did state in my comment that rocks can be used as a weapon. My point was Trump saying that they were the same as a firearm. As my father used to say....A cat can have kittens in the oven, but it does not make them biscuits. Also, why would the troops sue rocks?
This the stupidest thing I've ever seen. If US troops shoot people throwing rocks at them at the US border it will be one of the most disgraceful days in US history. Kent State anyone?
There is no chance it would ever actually happen. This is Trump appealing to his base's worst instincts, and they never seem to run short of supply.
Okay, here is another one I have heard. You can put your boots in the oven but it does not make them biscuits. As for my father....Lay the F off of a highly decorated Marine who beat polio to enlist.
Not to worry-- the Migrants are just trying to get their rocks off!
(They are all Communists coming here to rape our women-folk!)
Not for long
A surprise to anyone? Trump is completely amoral. He will do and say whatever he thinks is best for him, period. Everyone else can be fucked by a horse as far as he is concerned. Give him even the slightest prompt and he will support gas chambers.
Best not take Trump to Auschwitze then. Remember that Russian parade?
HE would praise that place as one of "the most sophisticated (okay, he can't say that word), streamlined, and effective murder facilitieis in history! So why can we have the same in the US?"
What person who hasn’t quite made up their mind on whether Trump is doing a good job looks at this and finally goes all in for Trump. This mushroom dicked gangster wannabe gets more repulsive every day. This kind of rhetoric does nothing to broaden his base, it only makes his rock solid base of deplorables that much more of a threat to decent Americans.
Are you proclaiming personal decency?
Unlike trump republicans who have no personal decency so they have no need to proclaim what they don't have
Actually that brings up an interesting point.
Since Trump's base is less than 50% of the population, most people assume Trump is trynng to broaden his base. But it seems obvious he's actually not. What he is doing is trying to motivate his base. But they are not enouh to win this election.
So why is';t he trying to broaden his base? (Actually, I don't know).
Because that would require some actual political skills as well as a personality capable of doing that. I seriously doubt a sociopath with an incredibly fragile ego can do much more than demonize the people he hates. He's a one trick pony.
" Trump Unveils Plans For Tent Cities That Sound A Lot Like Concentration Camps "
Weird Liberal Type Rhetoric ….. NOT REALLY !
Concentration camps were set up by an "Invading Country" . Not by those countries that were actually being "Invaded" by others...…. Duh !
It's more like a a tent city so they will have shelter from the storms, portapotties, and a commisary to feed them.
The "Illegals" should "Illegally" hit on Mina !
It's such a pretty place.
So is there any chance we could swap the crowd we saw in Charlottesville carrying tiki torches, waving swastika flags along side confederate flags shouting "Jews will not replace us!" with the caravan? They'd be far more likely to peacefully integrate into American society and be a benefit than those bigoted white supremacists who are already here.
those bigoted white supremacists who are already here.
You mean the tiny numbers of malcontents, as compared the rest of us?
There's only 60 million of them who voted for Trump.
Seems they have taken control of trump republicans like you.
Don't bring rocks to a gunfight...
Well, there ya go. Sounds like you're already itching for a fight
Actually, they are just going there to provide support services for the border patrol agents, who will engage the invasion mob if necessary.
So.....the army is going down to the border....unarmed?????
Bummer that the US military turned down Trump's order to shoot at unarmed refugees, eh?
There is no concentration camp in the offing. In a concentration camp, the inmates are not free to leave. 100% of the people who might detained in the proposed tent city will be free to leave, so long as they don't try to go north. They can go back to Mexico, Honduras, whatever. They just won't be allowed to roam around unvetted, undocumented, and anonymous in the United States. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's actually what a lot of other countries do (including Mexico) in this situation.
Neither were those Japanese-Americans in internment camps or the refugee children whom Trump ordered to be abducted from their parents and put in cages.
An act that took place under the rule of a Democratic Party icon and upheld by arguably the worst Supreme Court decision in American history.
Nobody was "abducted" or put in cages. Depending on what pictures or news stories you think you saw, it either happened under Obama or was staged for political purposes.
In any event, what is your point, or do you even have one? What I said about the "concentration camp" propaganda is true.
Sounds like Trump and the GOP have copied the same bigoted, inhumane and unproductive plan.
#1, nobody is forcing these people to approach the US, especially not Trump, who has told them repeatedly not to come. #2, Most of the Japanese interned during WWII were citizens. Virtually all of them were already in the country legally. The level of crime done to Japanese Americans does not compare to detaining someone pending an asylum hearing.
Ummmm.....so? What they're doing is perfectly legal. Why should they give a crap that an elderly paranoid and xenophobic Fuhrer told them to not to get close to his yard?
Actually, it's not. They illegally tore down fences at Mexico's southern border to gain entry to that country. They are in Mexico without permission. The Mexican government has offered many of them refugee status in Mexico and they have refused.
I have no objection to them seeking asylum in the United States, so long as they do it legally. The typical procedure for refugees would be to flee to the nearest neighboring country and apply for asylum. Most of the people in this caravan aren't doing that.
Nevertheless, Trump has promised them a process when they get here, but with so many coming at once, it would be irresponsible to let them all roam the country without being vetted.
Sure it is. Maybe you need to read the Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees?
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Apparently they don't think Mexico is very safe. Neither does the US State Dept.
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Then Mexico is free to prosecute those dastardly evil-doers! However it has nothing to do with us.
Then we agree that what they're doing is not "perfectly legal."
As far as US law is concerned what they're doing is perfectly legal despite what xenophobes like Trump and his followers say.
Having laws on immigration and admission to your country and further insisting on enforcing those laws is not xenophobia. If it were Bill Clinton , Barack Obama, Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer , Hillary Clinton, and Harry Reid and many other Democrats would all be xenophobes.
How exactly is that even remotely relevant to the conversation? These refugees are doing something which is well within US and international law, so your constant whining about it is strongly indicative of xenophobia.
What's also xenophobic is the demonization of these refugees by Trump and his supporters.
I'm whining about it? I'm whining about it??? Jump into the wayback machine Sherman. Trump wants to keep these people from running free while we investigate who they are and what they want. It's what anyone would do.
For that - for doing his job to protect the country - you call him and anyone who supports him a xenophobe and you accuse of him building concentration camps. And I'm the one "whining" about it?!
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They are fleeing a country (Honduras) where extremely sadistic Drug cartel members run wild-- killing, torturing, raping, and murdering innocent people. So why should they want to go to a different country (Mexico) where extremely sadistic Drug cartel members run wild-- killing, torturing, raping, and murdering innocent people?
That would make no sense at all!
(Be honest Tacos-- would you like to live in Mexico? Heck, I had been thinking of taking a vacation there-- then I realized what a crazy idea that was! Even for a short stay-- who in their right mind would want to go to today's Mexico?)
I agree. Sounds like you're saying Mexico and its southern neighbors are "shitholes." I would love it if all those countries were homes to opportunity and justice, but they have always been corrupt. Short of annexing them into the US, I'm not sure what we can do about it.
I'm happy to take people looking for a better life, but I want to know they aren't criminals and aren't coming here to feed off the welfare teat.
When you have a mass of thousands of people who are approaching, talking and acting as if they have some right to be in America and no one is going to stop them, that doesn't sound like friends are coming.
No, he's ginning up fear in his rabidly xenophobic base by making false claims about these refugees and then claiming he's "protecting" the country by sending federal troops to prevent these refugees from entering the country.....including the use of razor wire.
A real president wouldn't do any of that, he'd simply have the relevant agencies process the refugee claims and duly vet each refugee.
Oh! You mean the chain link partition (not actually my terminology). By this standard, middle school kids are in cages all day.
But that's quite scandalous the image. Tell me how you feel about this image:
I'm pretty sure this is the same place, i.e. McAllen, Texas. Look! "Kids in cages!"
For context, the gentleman in the light shirt is Jim McGovern, a Congressman from the 2nd District of Massachusetts, on a fact-finding mission to the border. And oh yeah, he's a Democrat. If you follow this link:
Statement of U.S. Rep Jim Mcgovern on His Trip to the U.S.-Mexico Border
You can read his account of the trip. He writes frankly about the issues faced by the Border Patrol, our difficult policy options, and his desire to protect the children.
Guess what he doesn't do? He doesn't rant and rave about kids being caged like animals. He doesn't condemn the president for his inhumane treatment of innocent kids.
Guess why? It might have something to do with the fact that the date of his trip was August 4, 2014. Guess who was president at that time?
Hey mom look at the kids in cages. Don't look like particians to me nor to the greatest majority of American Citizens, in other words you are just echoing trump, the butt hole
Did you miss the part where that cage was full of kids while Obama was president?