The Future Is About To Turn Bleak For Republicans
The prognostications i have seen generally predict that Democrats will gain about 10 governorships tonight. One pundit on a tv show this morning said that it is possible by tomorrow morning that Democrats will be governors in all the 2016 battleground states. Democrats are favored in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio (and Florida) with Wisconsin a tossup although the majority of the polls have favored the Democrat recently. The next time congressional redistricting is done in these states and in every state with a new Democratic governor, in co-ordination with the 2020 census , more balance is going to be achieved between districts that favor one party or the other. The playing field will become more even. Likely, this will put the GOP majority in the House in jeopardy for the next decade.
The ascension to the upper midwest governorships by Democrats (Illinois is expected to flip back to Democrat governor as well tonight) also likely signals the end of the region's love affair with Trump from '16. Trump's approval ratings in the upper midwest have been poor for quite some time as the region suffered buyer's remorse, and tonight's results should solidify the belief that Trump will not carry the region in the presidential election of 2020. If he doesn't carry 3 of the 4 amongst Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, he's not getting re-elected.
There is a little light at the end of the tunnel on the horizon, dependent on the results tonight. We may have seen the end of Trumpism and Republican domination of government for some time to come.
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I am hopeful, as long as the tv talking heads are half right, that tomorrow will be a brighter day.
Tomorrow will be a brighter day...regardless of any political outcome. No more political ads attacking their opponents and raising fear among their 'faithful'...can't get any brighter than that! We will all be able to breathe again!
Hate to be a Debbie Downer, but tomorrow will be the 1st day of the 2020 Presidential onslaught. Hold on to your hat.
Yep, I do believe you are correct. We may see a week or so grace, but the commercials will be starting up soon. I believe the initial ones will be vague enough so that they don't immediately shout the Presidential tone, but they will be starting up much too soon.
Somebody make Luther stop saying that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Luther, stop saying "that" find another word to use, you are upsetting Trout. Oh......wait.
LOL!!!!!!!
I am hopeful, as long as the tv talking heads are half right
I am not quite sure that they know anything more that you or I John. But we'll all know by tomorrow and until that time it will be another day of yada, yada yada.......:)
This is true. Voting only lasts a day. The pregame and post game shows are much longer.
Political banter is a form of entertainment, no doubt, not only on Newstalkers, but throughout media. There are multiple television networks that do little besides talk about politics 365 days a year.
Popcorn anyone?
There's a good and bad side to this.
Would be great to sweep in as a majority, not so great that the economy is about to crash.
I almost wish they win because no matter who's there, we're heading down. I'd rather it was something solely created by the droolers.
Would be grear to sweep in as a majority, not so great that the economy is about to crash
I must hope you are wrong, but sadly I believe you to be correct. Our economy at present burns brightly, but so does a light bulb just before it dies.
Debt!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep, another Newstalkers tradition.
Every election cycle John proclaims that the prognostications favor a heavy Democrat victory.
Not saying it won't happen, not saying it will, just saying that every cycle we can count on this tradition....
It is officially wishing and dreaming day guys, I haven't been involved like past cycles so I'm out of the loop today. And it feels good that I don't have to deal with the stress and long, long days. So I really don't have any hard info this cycle.
The last time we had a heavy democrat victory two years later resulted in the largest off year congressional electoral defeat in American political history. It doesn't feel anywhere near that level of intensity.
I don't know enough this time around to predict the outcome. (lack of access to the data will do that) But it doesn't feel like a democrat landslide.....
It could be one that is well hidden, but I doubt it.
From the results I've seen at this point in time, and with the caveat of having been told that I know nothing about American politics, my guess is that it will take California to change the status quo. Perhaps someone should station an ambulance outside of John's house.
Sorry to burst your bubble gum Buzz, but the Democrats are going to take the House of Representatives fairly easily.
As I said, it was only a guess, but you can never be absolutely sure about anything in American elections。Were you not absolutely positive Hillary would win?
The Democrats have won the US House of Representatives...
Maybe Buzz will believe you , lol.
I think he wants someone to send him a Trump t-shirt.
What was the reason for that comment, John? You know damn well I would never wear it - I do NOT cherish that man. You know fucking well that the ONLY thing he has done that is at all important to me is to support Israel more than any POTUS (except maybe Truman), and not betray it like Obama did at the end of his term. I'll tell you what, how about if I send you a Chairman Mao T-shirt? Size XXXL (will fit anybody)/ Never been worn. Here it is. Send me your address and your real name in a Private Note.
And yes, from the results that I see here, the Dems are taking the house and the Reps are retaining the Senate. I guess that's a victory for the Democrats and JohnRussell.
The Republicans are gaining seats in the senate. Americans have spoken.
Actually, this is not so much a victory for Democrats as many pundits think. If Republican House leadership didn't spend so much time trying to ignore Trump being President or bow to Democrats' rhetoric about Trump being evil and the worst thing to happen to America in Trump's first year; then the Republicans might have expanded the majority. The House leadership is what cost Republicans the House; because they did not deliver on their campaign promises to repeal Obamacare (the PPACA), work on balancing the budget, building the Wall, or working on Immigration Reform. They spent the first year backstabbing Trump instead of supporting him and his policies. And, they did not pass major pieces of legislation that would have given the Republican Party a clear contrast with the Democratic Party. They can only really hang their hats on passing a major tax cut. Then, they spent like drunken sailors in port for the first time in months. That is not what Republicans, particularly in the House, can do to win elections. The Senate went Republican because of how people felt about Kavanaugh's treatment more than for any other reason.
Perhaps, but the projected blue wave fizzled out at the shores of the Senate, thankfully denying the Dems the total victory they desperately wanted and craved. Can't do a whole lot without that except be obstructionist.
The "blue wave" was more like a small ripple in a big pond. The Dems might have taken the house but make no mistake. Election 2018 was a net loss for them.
This was more an election on two issues: Kavanaugh and which party actually acts like what they claim to be. The House Republicans spent the last two years on every issue other than the tax cuts running like people perceive Democrats as being. Why should people vote for Republicans when they act like the Democrats? If you want to win elections, you have to offer a clear and concise set of differences and follow through with your promises. It's like playing Prevent Defense when up by only 2 points...it only prevents you from winning. That is what happened to the Republicans this year.
Well, John is still suffering from the butt chapping that happened in 2016. He needs something to hang his hat on now. So, I'm sure he will crow about even a partial victory for the democrats. I'm sure he's tired of being wrong by now.
And you got your ass kicked last night and now you and your republican retrobates can no longer run rampant over anything
Gerrymandering will go away in most states leaving the repubs in the dark.
Trump will be busy fighting for his freedom from prison
The ignorance is strong in that comment. When looking at the total election Democrats won more of the nation than did the republicans and lost the most important race
Meh ...... and this to shall pass if it comes to be. Such is the nature of this beast
That said, if them the Dem wins in Michigan we get Jennifer Granholm the second ...... not good!
The Republicans gain seats in the Senate. Beto loses. Gillum loses. Kemp wins. The big blue wave is only in the tidy bowl.
Suck it.
The Georgia race is not over.....
True, it's going into a run off, it will be Kemp v. Abrams only this time, the question is, will enough people turn out to make the difference. Run offs usually favor Republicans and, there is still the fact that Kemp feels he should be in charge of the election he is running in which is why we have the same amount of votes separating Abrams from a win as Kemp kept voter applications from being processed.
I'm thinking good thoughts and have my fingers crossed
Not if one of them gets to over 50%
Yep, but, in this case in this election, there was a third party candidate involved and, one of the candidates in the run off is also the secretary of state for Georgia and, is currently not recusing himself from his job and, is being litigated for voter suppression in the state.
Sounds like another mob v Kavannah type thing.
Good luck with that ..... the last one didn't end too well for your side. As proven out by this election.
So, you're calling the FEDERAL COURTS a mob, very interesting. It is the courts that are litigating this with evidence provided by the GEORGIA ACLU and, other GEORGIA organizations. Remember, it was 53 thousand applications that were with held under Georgia's exact match law, a law that is being proven in court to be illegal, of those 53 thousand applications 70% are from African-American voters.
Remember, the states that flipped from a Republican governor to a Democratic governor will be able to change the gerrymandered districts back to the way they are suppose to be, like what happened in Pennsylvania and, will happen in Michigan in the coming two years.
To where the advantage is for the democrats?
Well, "There you go again" not quoting my whole comment, making it look like I said something I didn't say. What to try again? This time use the whole quote, not just the part that makes your supposed point.
Time will tell but like the Kavannagh deal, i bet this Georgia Gov election complaint will be much to do about nothing but partisan bitching and attempts to strong arm the system.
Yep, time will tell and i wonder how many proven liars we'll get out of this one?
I don't think so, this has been going on for some time in Georgia,
https://whttps://www.npr.org/2018/11/03/663937578/judge-rules-against-georgia-election-law-calling-it-a-severe-burden-for-voters
ww.democracynow.org/2018/10/12/headlines/georgia_voter_suppression_efforts_under_fire_in_heated_governor_race
Your first link doesn't work.
The only thing the second link proves is there has been some accusations of improprieties. No nefarious intent has been proven as of yet and some officials even insist they are well within state law with how they are handling their ballots.
So it's just a little bit disingenuous to say its been going on for a long time when it isn't even proven yet. Don't ya think?
Why not
This one should work,
And the house and governors went to Dems
put your nuk nuk back in your mouth and slither off
From looking at a map indicating the house wins, it looks to me like there is something in the ocean water.
It's more of a urban vs rural thing. The blue on the coasts? Big urban areas. Small landmasses with lots of people.
The large landmass areas in the middle of the country, being more rural, tend to go red.
Michigan is a good example of that. Everywhere you see blue is a bigger city, urban area. The state, like the country, is like 80-90% red by land mass.
How do you explain Kansas, Wisconsin, Michigan all going blue this election?
If that is true, the rural should be ashamed of themselves. How do you vote for the most dishonest person in political history, who is also a thief, a bully and a racist, and look at yourself in the mirror afterwards?
When the history books are written about Trump, virtually none of it is going to be good, Do you actually think Trump is going to get credit for turning around the economy? LOL. The trend of an improving economy clearly began under Obama and history will record Trump as merely maintaining that trend. What history will emphasize about the Trump presidency is the chaos and the rampant dishonesty. It will also record how the "deplorables" continued to support him in the face of overwhelming evidence that he is man of extremely low character.
Clearly the same thing .... urban vs rural .....
How do you explain Debbie Stabenow going from a 20 point win in 2012 to barely a five point win in 2018. Now there is a Senator that constituents aren't happy with .....
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I'm very happy with each and every one of the votes i cast yesterday and could care less what any sanctimonious, celebrity or city prick thinks of that.
Nope, don't care in the least.
Ok then, I will address it specifically to YOU
How do you vote for the most dishonest person in political history, who is also a thief, a bully and a racist, and look at yourself in the mirror afterwards?
lol
You hide your head in the sand and then brag about it. Pitiful.
Your shtick is getting very old John but i'll bite. So if you really want to be specific, please be specific.
Who are you talking about?
The same can be said for Ted Cruz, he only won by a slim 4% margin.
True and glad we also agree on the urban v rural thing ......
Who said we agree? Kansas isn't urban, nor is it close to any coast and, it went blue last night.
I already told you who I am talking about. YOU
You didn't respond to the question so to use a little tactic liberals like to use all the time, you agreed via your lack of response .....
I didn't run for anything this election so i couldn't have voted for myself John.
Who are you talking about?
Ah yes, the DO is back again and it appears not a thing has changed ....
John, THIS IS NOT AN INDICATION OF SUPPORT FOR TRUMP, but don't you think what he did with respect to Israel might be mentioned in his history?
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I live in a decades red district in CA and this morning I learned WE FLIPPED TO BLUE!
It's just the beginning, so many Republicans are retiring and young people will rise up and take their place. Republicans are on the wrong side of history just like they were under Bush.
They chose money and donors over the American people, they cho0se hate and war over everything else. Paul Ryan has seen the writing on the wall and he isn't' even an "old geezer", yet he is running for the hills of corporate private money.
Hillary won the majority vote of Americans, just like Obama won the majority vote of Americans and the majority of Americans want to see more balance in our government instead of one party rule.