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Equality Act – a 'wrecking ball' on religious liberty

  

Category:  Religion & Ethics

Via:  make-america-great-again  •  7 years ago  •  159 comments

Equality Act – a 'wrecking ball' on religious liberty
Dr. James Dobson … Alliance Defending Freedom … Dr. Michael L. Brown … National Religious Broadcasters … American Family Association … Family Research Council – they've all clearly voiced their strong opposition to the legislation introduced on March 13 by Representative David N. Cicilline (D-Rhode Island). Those individuals and groups warn of its chilling effect on religious liberty, describe it as a "coercive sexual orientation and gender identity law," and say it would force public schools...

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The Equality Act continues to draw strong criticism and warnings from advocates of traditional and biblical values – and voters are being encouraged to get hold of their representatives on Capitol Hill and urge them to vigorously oppose it should it come to a vote.

Dr. James Dobson … Alliance Defending Freedom … Dr. Michael L. Brown … National Religious Broadcasters … American Family Association … Family Research Council – they've all clearly voiced their strong opposition to the legislation introduced on March 13 by Representative David N. Cicilline (D-Rhode Island). Those individuals and groups warn of its chilling effect on religious liberty, describe it as a "coercive sexual orientation and gender identity law," and say it would force public schools to conform to the LGBTQ agenda.

Cicilline, an open homosexual , introduced The Equality Act ( H.R.5 ) with 239 co-sponsors, all but two of them Democrats. "It is past time for the Equality Act to be written into law," the lawmaker said earlier this year. "No American should ever be treated as less than equal in the eyes of the law. I'm looking forward to getting this bill through the House this spring. Senator McConnell should take it up without delay."

AFA Action , a Mississippi-based public advocacy group, sent a letter to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky) asking him not to take up the bipartisan legislation should it be approved in the House.

AFA Action's Rob Chambers argues that H.R.5 brings anything but equality.


rchambers_1_mug.jpg Chambers

"The Equality Act is going to impact every person in the United States of America," Chambers tells OneNewsNow. "Second of all, the Equality Act will serve as a wrecking ball against the religious liberty of all Americans in the country."

Chambers continues: "Say someone believes that marriage is between one man and one woman, for example – or even if someone believes that biology is established at birth and

is not changeable or is immutable. Then those people would be at odds with this law. So, for example if they own a business, they would have to allow men who think they're women into the women's restrooms."

Representatives Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pennsylvania) and John Katko (R-New York) also co-sponsor the Equality Act of 2019, and Senator Jeff Merkley (D-Oregon) has introduced the bill in the U.S. Senate.

AFA Action is encouraging those who oppose The Equality Act to contact their member of Congress. "… Ask your representative where they stand on this particular issue," Chambers urges. "Don't just settle for I'm just looking at this and I'll get back with you ."

After being introduced, the measure was referred to five House committees. The Senate version ( S.788 ) has been referred to the Judiciary Committee.


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luther28
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2  luther28    7 years ago

"No American should ever be treated as less than equal in the eyes of the law.

You find exception with this statement somehow?

I thought you were a staunch defender of the Constitution, see below for a refresher.

The 14th Amendment says, "Nor shall any state … deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

See there is the thing about freedom, you have to allow others the same consideration even though they may not fit into your own little world, otherwise it is just another word.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1  JBB  replied to  luther28 @2    7 years ago

All pigs are equal butt obviously some pigs think they are more equal...

 
 
 
luther28
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2.1.1  luther28  replied to  JBB @2.1    7 years ago

Animal Farm, one of my early favorites. Oink, Oink:)

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.4  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.3    7 years ago
in animal farm it is the secular progressive statists who are the some animals are more equal than others pigs

So who are the 'religious regressives' in Animal Farm Xx? 

 
 
 
luther28
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2.1.5  luther28  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.3    7 years ago

SparkNotes: Animal Farm: Symbols

Animal Farm , known at the beginning and the end of the novel as the Manor Farm , symbolizes Russia and the Soviet Union under Communist Party rule.
Bit of a leap to a Progressive.
 
 
 
epistte
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2.1.6  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.3    7 years ago
in animal farm it is the secular progressive statists who are the some animals are more equal than others pigs 🐖.  

Does your god want some people to be more equal than others?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.7    7 years ago

What special services?

 
 
 
evilone
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2.1.9  evilone  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.7    7 years ago
And why should the LGBTQ community be able to demand special services from people they know would be violating their own religious beliefs and conscience were they to submit to and comply with their oppressive demands?

Please enlighten us with an example of a "special service" the oppressive LGBTQ community is demanding? I'm pretty certain it really isn't all that "special" nor does it have anything to do with the Christian religion. 

 
 
 
Freefaller
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2.1.11  Freefaller  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.8    7 years ago
What special services?

Lol the same services that are provided to every other citizen of the country

 
 
 
evilone
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2.1.12  evilone  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.10    7 years ago

I've been searching all versions of the Christian Bible for a couple of years now and I can't find "baking a cake" as a prerequisite for Christianity. It seems, from my various searches online, that the MAJORITY of Christians believe the Messiah would have baked the cake. I would like to think a being said to be the embodiment of LOVE would have baked the cake and blessed the couple and then would have admonished the bigots for being so prissy in the first place. Paul on the other hand was very obsessed with keeping himself holy and pure. Personally I think too many people follow Paul and too little actually follow Jesus.

 
 
 
epistte
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2.1.14  epistte  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.13    7 years ago

I could probably do better than that and I hate decorating cakes.  They look like an 8-year-olds refrigerator drawing on a cake.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  epistte @2.1.14    7 years ago

I thought some of them looked amateurish

 
 
 
katrix
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2.1.16  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.7    7 years ago
And why should the LGBTQ community be able to demand special services from people

They're asking for equal treatment.  Nothing more.  No special services at all. 

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.17  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.10    7 years ago

The damn gop is trying to constitute a New Jim Crow System step by step starting with the LGTBQ community butt they realky want a return to the bad olde daze when ambulances refused to transport people to hospitals that refused to treat them because they were deemed "dirty". That was the excuse given for denying services to black and brown people at everything from restaurants to banks and department stores and schools and jobs and homes to ambulance services and hospitals prior to 1964.

It was normal people died from lack of care back then. Wanna go again?

 
 
 
epistte
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2.1.18  epistte  replied to  JBB @2.1.17    7 years ago

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Gordy327
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2.1.19  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.7    7 years ago
And why should the LGBTQ community be able to demand special services

What "special services" would those be? Be specific!

from people they know would be violating their own religious beliefs and conscience were they to submit to and comply with their oppressive demands?

Being asked to provide something you normally do anyway is "oppressive?" And some conservatives like to call liberals "snowflakes." Oh irony! Some of these religious types really need to get over themselves!

 
 
 
epistte
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2.1.20  epistte  replied to  epistte @2.1.18    7 years ago

Who did my post malign if it wasn't the white Protestant conservative Christians who support discrimination based on their conservative interpretation of the Bible?

 Do they have the right not to be offended by the historical facts?  I hate revisionist history. 

 
 
 
epistte
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2.1.21  epistte  replied to  Gordy327 @2.1.19    7 years ago
Being asked to provide something you normally do anyway is "oppressive?" And some conservatives like to call liberals "snowflakes." Oh irony! Some of these religious types really need to get over themselves!

Their goal is to filter all secular law through their cherry-picked interpretation of the Bible all while expecting us to ignore the fact that their savior Jesus explicitly told them not to do what they are doing. 

 
 
 
epistte
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2.1.25  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.23    7 years ago
Us repressed believers are the chickens who tried to withhold our eggs and were taken out by Napoleons dogs.  

When have you ever been repressed?

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.26  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.24    7 years ago

What about the pigs, goose and sheep that were killed. Were they agnostic? 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.28  Gordy327  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.27    7 years ago

That was a good one. Classic, Lol

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.29  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.24    7 years ago

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Gordy327
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2.1.30  Gordy327  replied to  epistte @2.1.25    7 years ago

That's easy: Never!

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.31  Gordy327  replied to  epistte @2.1.21    7 years ago

That about sums it up.

 
 
 
katrix
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2.1.33  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.23    7 years ago
Us repressed believers are the chickens who tried to withhold our eggs and were taken out by Napoleons dogs.  

Why don't you move to a theocracy if you feel so persecuted? 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.34  Gordy327  replied to  katrix @2.1.33    7 years ago

Indeed. I suppose some people simply prefer to whine all the time.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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2.1.36  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.7    7 years ago

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Thrawn 31
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2.1.37  Thrawn 31  replied to  epistte @2.1.25    7 years ago
When have you ever been repressed?

He never has. [Removed]

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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2.1.38  SteevieGee  replied to  katrix @2.1.33    7 years ago
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Dulay
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2.1.41  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.40    7 years ago
America’s gay community openly sided with islamists and the government in Iran

Please provide a link to prove your claim Xx. 

 
 
 
Don Overton
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2.1.42  Don Overton  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.3    7 years ago

Genesis 1:27   ESV / 333 helpful votes Helpful   Not Helpful

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. For in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.

Mark 12:31   ESV / 281 helpful votes Helpful   Not Helpful

The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    7 years ago

I have never understood why people think they will be betraying their religion if they submit to "equality". 

Doesn't God know you are complying with the law against your choice and against your will? 

I would think you would get extra credit with the man upstairs just by making your opinion known. 

 
 
 
epistte
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4.1  epistte  replied to  JohnRussell @4    7 years ago
I have never understood why people think they will be betraying their religion if they submit to "equality". 

Doesn't God know you are complying with the law against your choice and against your will? 

I would think you would get extra credit with the man upstairs just by making your opinion known. 

Jesus told them not to treat others differently than they want to be treated. This is why the religious claim is laughable because even their own bible disagrees with them unless they somehow claim to be a Christian and yet reject the teachings of the person who they claim to be their savior and the son of god. 

Luke 6:31.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.1    7 years ago
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Proselytizing generally pisses people off. 

 
 
 
epistte
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4.1.3  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.1    7 years ago
 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.

What do you think this means?  If LGBT and us secular progressive Humanists are your enemies, then you are to be kind to them and us. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.1.4  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.1    7 years ago
It is not showing love to others to let them continue to live in sin and not point them to Gods love, salvation, and eternal life if they accept Him and repent.

Bullshit. 

That is about loving your enemies and doing good to others whether they accept 'Him' or not because that's what Jesus does. 

It's not about your enemies grace, it's about YOURS. Sheesh!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dulay @4.1.4    7 years ago

I think it's pretty arrogant to not let others continue to live their lives as they see fit.

 
 
 
katrix
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4.1.6  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.1    7 years ago
We would not want others to let us continue to live in sin and be eternally lost because they would not tell us and show us a better way.  

Bullshit.  We often point out your sins and show you a better way, but you continue with the hate.  When Jesus refuses to know you, don't blame us - we tried.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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4.1.7  Thrawn 31  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.1    7 years ago
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epistte
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4.1.10  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.9    7 years ago
Kind yes, loving yes, aiding and abetting in the committing of sin, absolutely never ever.  

Bigots also believe that the intermarriage of whites and blacks is also a sin. Why do you discount their sincere devout beliefs? 

Why should intermarriage between races be considered a sin? When two people of whatever race or colour love one another and wish to marry, why should they not do so? Because the Bible asserts that it is wrong to intermarry and, if we believe the Bible to be the inspired Word of God, then we have the highest Authority for this claim. The Word of God tells us that segregation is not only right , but a “must,” if the nations are to live in peace. This is not a popular statement at the moment, of course, and is contrary to Church doctrine. God made everything “after its kind” in the animal, vegetable and human world (Genesis 1:24-25). Leviticus 19:19 says, “Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind; thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed; neither shall a garment mingled (mixed) of linen and woollen come upon thee” and, in Deuteronomy 22:9, “Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers (various) seeds; lest the fruit of thy seed which thou  hast sown, and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled. ” Let us note further what Moses said: “When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. For the Lord’s portion (is) his people; Jacob (is) the lot of his inheritance” (Deuteronomy 32:8-9).

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Let us take the case of Solomon, and note how his downfall was due entirely to intermarriage with women of other nations. In I Kings 11:1-2, it is said: “But King Solomon loved many strange (foreign ) women; together with the daughter of Pharaoh,  women  of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians (and) Hittites, of the nations (concerning) which the Lord said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you; (for) surely they will turn away your heart after their gods. Solomon clave (clung) unto these in love.” What happened? “For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, (that) his wives turned away his heart  after other gods, and his heart was not perfect with the Lord his God, as (was) the heart of David, his father” (I Kings 11:4). The consequences of this disobedience were serious for, “The Lord said unto Solomon, For as much as this is done by thee, and thou hast not kept my covenant and my statutes, which I have commanded thee, I will surely rend (tear) the kingdom from thee, and will give it to thy servant” (verse 11). So we see the results of Solomon’s sin – the division of the kingdom of Israel. The sin of intermarrying has been prevalent through the ages and the practice was condemned by Nehemiah (Nehemiah 13:23-31).. Ezra, too, was ashamed of the iniquities of the children of Israel and prayed and confessed before God – cf Ezra Chapters 9 & 10 (Note: 9:10-12; 10:10-11).
 
 
 
epistte
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4.1.12  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.11    7 years ago
nteresting how others can quote chapter and verse to advance their viewpoint and I can’t.  Typical NewsTalkers double standards at work.  

I am not proselytizing in any way. I posted that statement as proof that there are still some Christians who think that it is sinful for the races to intermarry.  Why do you ignore that sin and only focus on LGBT marriage? Its almost as if you have moved past race as a reason to claim a religious objection to minority rights and now only want to focus on citing your conservative religious beliefs to oppose LGBT rights instead? 

 If the Obergfell decision is wrong because of your conservative religious beliefs then Loving v. Virginia must also be opposed by your religion because legally they are the very same idea that marriage between 2 consenting adults is a constitutional right of all people.  You cannot ignore one and oppose the other on religious grounds without being a hypocrite that cherry-picks only what you choose to believe because it supports your currently held opinions. 

 
 
 
epistte
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4.1.14  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.13    7 years ago
As do I. Christians should be able to live their lives as per their beliefs.  

Even if those beliefs are a violation of secular law and discriminate against others? The Bible says that some people should be stoned to death for their actions. Should that be permitted because it is a religious belief?  Should Maurice Bessinger have been permitted to deny equal service to black and interracial customers at his BBQ joint because of his racist religious beliefs, despite the protections of the 1964 Civil Rights Act? 

How can we have a Constitution with equal rights for all if people only need to claim that their religious rights are an exemption to secular law?  Your idea sounds suspiciously close to a Christian counterpart to Islamic Sharia law.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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4.1.15  bbl-1  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.13    7 years ago

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bbl-1
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5  bbl-1    7 years ago

Religion and Liberty?  How does that work?  For whom does it work? 

Would it not be simpler to simply allow 'the over religious' to just persecute each other?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  bbl-1 @5    7 years ago

They already did that back during the Protestant Reformation.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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5.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  bbl-1 @5    7 years ago
Would it not be simpler to simply allow 'the over religious' to just persecute each other?

Hence why I don't get overly upset when the Christians and Muslims go at each other, those two groups are the worst. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
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5.2.1  bbl-1  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5.2    7 years ago

The Abrahamic religions thrive on fear and violence.  It is their only redemption.

 
 
 
epistte
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5.2.2  epistte  replied to  bbl-1 @5.2.1    7 years ago
The Abrahamic religions thrive on fear and violence.  It is their only redemption.

And yet believers claim that their god is a loving God.  By that same claim Torquemada apparently was Mr. Rogers. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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6  Thrawn 31    7 years ago
A 'Wrecking Ball' On Religious Liberty

I love how not being able to be a total fucking asshole is a threat to religious liberty. Really just proves everything I have said about religion.

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1  epistte  replied to  Thrawn 31 @6    7 years ago
I love how not being able to be a total fucking asshole is a threat to religious liberty. Really just proves everything I have said about religion.

If as the Bible claims that humans were made in his image then his most devout follower's actions would suggest that their god is a combination of Charles Manson, Warren Jeffs, and David Koresh. I certainly wouldn't worship that amoral prick but apparently, some people have no problem doing so. 

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.2  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.1    7 years ago
Simply ridiculous.  But since I can’t speak my mind or defend my position or my own beliefs/ opinions with out being censored for so called proselytizing while you all can freely use the Bible to attack my beliefs and values I’m simply locking the seed.   I will not be subject to one sided attacks unable to defend myself while like minded moderators simply delete any thing they personally don’t like or agree with.  

I don't believe your bible and I am not trying to convert anyone to the Christian faith. I only use the Bible to throw these ideas back in your face that you want to ignore because they don't support your very narrowly defined beliefs. 

 You want to ignore these inconvenient ideas because they don't support your claims, but I'm not going to allow you to do that. I'll stop doing it as soon as you admit that you pick and choose the passages that you approve of instead of obeying all of the Bible.   You claim that Jesus is the son of God and your chosen savior but when it comes time to obey his teachings you want to act like his existence is as questionable as the latest Elvis sighting. The Sermon On The Mount is arguably his most famous teaching but conservative Christians treat those compassionate commands are 20 tons of religious kryptonite.

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.4  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.3    7 years ago
You may not believe the Bible.  That’s not the issue.  We just expect that those who do believe it be allowed to live their lives as they believe it says and have the free exercise there of right to follow given beliefs in all aspect of their personal, career, and business lives.  

Maurice Bessinger and slave owners said the same thing when they believed that black and interracial people were inferior and to be ke[pt separate from whites. That bigoted idea is why we have the 1964 Civil Rights act with guarantees of equal service in a public business.

Why do you consistently ignore this bible passage like the plague? Does your bible have an annotated section listing exceptions to this teaching? If you are claiming that religious-based discrimination in secular rights and in public business then you must be able to prove it with an unambiguous passage from the person who you claim to be the son of god and your savior to defend that statement.

Luke 6:31

And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.1.5  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.3    7 years ago
We just expect that those who do believe it be allowed to live their lives as they believe it says and have the free exercise there of right to follow given beliefs in all aspect of their personal, career, and business lives.  

Actually Xx, you don't.

As has been pointed out to you ad nauseam, there are a plethora of biblical edicts that neither you or the vast majority of Christians argue should be allowed by our society. 

 
 
 
Don Overton
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7  Don Overton    7 years ago

 
 
 
bbl-1
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7.2  bbl-1  replied to  Don Overton @7    7 years ago

I totally agree.  This...………….piece...……..is a vacuum. 

 
 

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