Mr. Trump’s plan would create what he called a Palestinian state with limited sovereignty, and would guarantee that Israel have control of a unified Jerusalem as its capital and not require it to uproot any of the settlements in the West Bank.
“My vision presents a win-win for both sides,” Mr. Trump said at a White House ceremony beside Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, but no counterpart from the Palestinian leadership, which is not on speaking terms with the Trump administration.
3 weeks more like. It was only just now released, like the China trade deal (part 1), as a distraction from the impeachment and to prove to his sycophants that he is doing something.
Unfortunately, anyone who looks will see that both deals are worth less than the paper they are written on.
as a distraction from the impeachment and to prove to his sycophants that he is doing something.
You mean the impeachment that the democrats promised their triggered snowflakes if they elected them in 2018? Congress should be doing their jobs instead of chasing smoke and mirrors.
The event in the East Room of the White House had a Kabuki-theater quality to it as the president ended years of suspense over a highly touted peace plan that was widely considered dead on arrival. Rather than a serious blueprint for peace, analysts called it a political document by a president in the middle of an impeachment trial working in tandem with a prime minister under criminal indictment and about to face his third election in the span of a year.
Nearly three years in the making and overseen by Mr. Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, the plan is the latest of numerous American efforts to settle the 70-plus-year conflict between Israel and the Palestinians. But it marked a sharp turn in the American approach, dropping decades of American support for only modest adjustments to Israeli borders drawn in 1967 and discarding the longtime goal of granting the Palestinians a full-fledged state.
Trump supports Israel so strongly because his major GOP donors like Sheldon Adelson require it of him, and more importantly I think, because his evangelical Christian base requires it of him.
Trump has made disparaging remarks about Jews in his past, but since he took office I think his eyes are on the prize (his voter base). There is nothing in it for him to offer a peace plan Palestinians could agree to.
Right...Just like the Iranian missile defense treaty.
The snap back sanctions were supposed to be applied to missile violations as well. Why would Iran need to develop missiles, especially intercontinental ballistic ones, that are capable of carrying a nuclear payload? It is not like they can create a nuclear warhead or anything?
Oh wait.
Uranium particles of man-made origin have been discovered at a site in Iran not declared to the United Nations, the U.N. atomic watchdog agency said Monday as it confirmed a litany of violations by Tehran of the 2015 nuclear deal.
The International Atomic Energy Agency said Iran has begun enriching uranium at a heavily fortified installation inside a mountain, is increasing its stockpile of processed uranium, and is exceeding the allowable enrichment levels.
All such steps are prohibited under the agreement Iran reached with world powers to prevent it from building a bomb.
I mean they have such a great track record of honoring treaties. We should trust them implicitly to honor a limited, non binding, nuclear agreement that restricts where and when inspections can be conducted.
Iran is part the of ME. They are as fucked up as the rest.
Iranian peace treaty was working until Trump bailed.
What peace treaty was that, You mean the bullshit Nuclear deal that the worthless ass obama passed? The one where lead from behind obama gave Iran everything they asked for without congress consent, that one? The one Iran kept violating so President Trump pulled out, that one?
The "DEAL" Obama and his minions cobbled together was such a piece of shit that he knew better than to even attempt getting it ratified in the Senate as a treaty.
Yet, that "piece of shit", as you put it, was working as designed.
By asking the Palestinians to make far more territorial concessions than past proposals, though, Mr. Trump’s plan provided an American imprimatur of support to decades of aggressive Israeli settlement-building in Palestinian areas seized in two wars between Israel and Arab states. And it sent a grim message to the Palestinians that they have missed their chance to win the “two-state solution” they long pursued — as least so long as Mr. Trump is president.
Mr. Kushner and a small circle of Trump officials chose not to pursue the traditional path of brokering talks between the two parties that could lead to a joint proposal, but to hand one down from Washington. Peace-process veterans say that last happened under President Ronald Reagan in 1982.
Working secretively, Mr. Kushner and his team — which included the American ambassador to Israel, David M. Friedman, a strong supporter of Israeli settlement construction — consulted closely with Mr. Netanyahu’s government. But their contact with Palestinian officials ended after Mr. Trump moved the United States embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv in December 2017.
Rather than court the Palestinians after that, the Trump administration only increased pressure on them, cutting off American funding for Palestinian areas and shuttering the Palestinian diplomatic office in Washington.
That dashed the initial hopes of Palestinians who believed that Mr. Trump’s unorthodox approach toward foreign policy, and his love for a grand deal, could lead him to pressure Israel to a degree they felt previous American presidents had not.
In the near term, the 80-page plan is most likely to stir up Israeli and American politics. Mr. Trump is sure to cite the plan’s pro-Israel slant on the 2020 campaign trail to win support from conservative Jewish Americans in Florida and other key states, along with the Evangelical Christians who are some of his strongest backers and support Israeli expansion in the Holy Land.
While the Palestinians are nearly certain to reject the plan, Trump allies say they will be closely watching other Arab governments with whom Mr. Trump has established close relations and who have thawed relations with Israel, to see whether they might give the plan any political cover.
Speaking in Tel Aviv on Monday, Nikki Haley, Mr. Trump’s former United Nations Ambassador, suggested that such Arab support could force the Palestinians to come to the table. “If the Arab countries respond favorably to the plan, or even if they don’t run to the Palestinian side, that’s going to be a huge, telling lesson to the Palestinians that they may not have the backing they had before,” she said.
As the story says, there is no negotiation that resulted in this plan. It was handed down on high from the White House, which of course means the Palestinians reject it out of hand.
What most likely happen is that the status quo will stay for 20 more years and every now and then there will be violent uprisings killing and hurting many people.
"...which of course means the Palestinians reject it out of hand."
Oh come on, John, it's so obvious that the only thing that will make the Palestinians including Hamas happy is "Palestine will be free from the river to the sea." Surely we are all not so naive to think that anything less would be acceptable.
Oh DO tell me all about your vast knowledge about the Six Day War Xx. It may behoove you to review the FACT that it was between Israel, Egypt, Syria and Jordan. The Palestinians weren't 'combatants' nor did the surrender to anyone.
And it sent a grim message to the Palestinians that they have missed their chance to win the “two-state solution” they long pursued — as least so long as Mr. Trump is president.
They've never wanted a "two-state solution". They've rejected every "peace plan" for decades now. Quit trying to sell that lie.
There is as much a chance of the Palestinians accepting this so-called "Deal of the Century" as there is of all Americans giving up their guns. It just ain't gonna happen - what an unbelievable waste of time and effort. Even the discussion about it is a waste of time and effort.
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
Three years and a DOA peace plan.
Trump said his son in law Kushner would make peace in the M.E., or no one could.
Which one is this, lol.
3 weeks more like. It was only just now released, like the China trade deal (part 1), as a distraction from the impeachment and to prove to his sycophants that he is doing something.
Unfortunately, anyone who looks will see that both deals are worth less than the paper they are written on.
You mean the impeachment that the democrats promised their triggered snowflakes if they elected them in 2018? Congress should be doing their jobs instead of chasing smoke and mirrors.
Document that promise or admit your statement was a lie.
Impeachment is part of their jobs....duh....
No it's not a lie, it seems like you are using selective memory...as usual, or just lying.
Yet you provide no evidence to back up your claim.
Like a two state solution has not been thought of before.
You should know, like the rest of us, is that the so called Palestinians, aka Hamas, do not want or desire a "full-fledged state"
They only want to abolish the nation of Israel.
So it fails. Name one ME peace plan that has ever worked?
So much for Trump being anti Semite. Unless you want to claim he is too stupid to know Israel is the home of the Jews./S
Trump supports Israel so strongly because his major GOP donors like Sheldon Adelson require it of him, and more importantly I think, because his evangelical Christian base requires it of him.
Trump has made disparaging remarks about Jews in his past, but since he took office I think his eyes are on the prize (his voter base). There is nothing in it for him to offer a peace plan Palestinians could agree to.
When did he do that, and please provide a reference.
Really, John? Why didn't he prevent his daughter from marrying a Jew?
Iranian peace treaty was working until Trump bailed.
Off topic.
Right...Just like the Iranian missile defense treaty.
The snap back sanctions were supposed to be applied to missile violations as well. Why would Iran need to develop missiles, especially intercontinental ballistic ones, that are capable of carrying a nuclear payload? It is not like they can create a nuclear warhead or anything?
Oh wait.
I mean they have such a great track record of honoring treaties. We should trust them implicitly to honor a limited, non binding, nuclear agreement that restricts where and when inspections can be conducted.
Iran is part the of ME. They are as fucked up as the rest.
What peace treaty was that, You mean the bullshit Nuclear deal that the worthless ass obama passed? The one where lead from behind obama gave Iran everything they asked for without congress consent, that one? The one Iran kept violating so President Trump pulled out, that one?
Yet, that "piece of shit", as you put it, was working as designed.
No it was not, and you can't prove it. The Iranians cheated from the get-go.
That's right, as apiece of shit just like the one that forced it on the American people.
Proof...
Every country involved, including America found no violations. So prove your claim or admit it as another lie.
This was November AFTER Trump trashed the deal. Can't you find anything that has to do with what we're talking about?
And here, I'll help you out with more violations that occurred AFTER...
UN reports increasing violations of Iran nuclear deal
By asking the Palestinians to make far more territorial concessions than past proposals, though, Mr. Trump’s plan provided an American imprimatur of support to decades of aggressive Israeli settlement-building in Palestinian areas seized in two wars between Israel and Arab states. And it sent a grim message to the Palestinians that they have missed their chance to win the “two-state solution” they long pursued — as least so long as Mr. Trump is president.
Mr. Kushner and a small circle of Trump officials chose not to pursue the traditional path of brokering talks between the two parties that could lead to a joint proposal, but to hand one down from Washington. Peace-process veterans say that last happened under President Ronald Reagan in 1982.
Working secretively, Mr. Kushner and his team — which included the American ambassador to Israel, David M. Friedman, a strong supporter of Israeli settlement construction — consulted closely with Mr. Netanyahu’s government. But their contact with Palestinian officials ended after Mr. Trump moved the United States embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv in December 2017.
Rather than court the Palestinians after that, the Trump administration only increased pressure on them, cutting off American funding for Palestinian areas and shuttering the Palestinian diplomatic office in Washington.
That dashed the initial hopes of Palestinians who believed that Mr. Trump’s unorthodox approach toward foreign policy, and his love for a grand deal, could lead him to pressure Israel to a degree they felt previous American presidents had not.
In the near term, the 80-page plan is most likely to stir up Israeli and American politics. Mr. Trump is sure to cite the plan’s pro-Israel slant on the 2020 campaign trail to win support from conservative Jewish Americans in Florida and other key states, along with the Evangelical Christians who are some of his strongest backers and support Israeli expansion in the Holy Land.
While the Palestinians are nearly certain to reject the plan, Trump allies say they will be closely watching other Arab governments with whom Mr. Trump has established close relations and who have thawed relations with Israel, to see whether they might give the plan any political cover.
Speaking in Tel Aviv on Monday, Nikki Haley, Mr. Trump’s former United Nations Ambassador, suggested that such Arab support could force the Palestinians to come to the table. “If the Arab countries respond favorably to the plan, or even if they don’t run to the Palestinian side, that’s going to be a huge, telling lesson to the Palestinians that they may not have the backing they had before,” she said.
As the story says, there is no negotiation that resulted in this plan. It was handed down on high from the White House, which of course means the Palestinians reject it out of hand.
What most likely happen is that the status quo will stay for 20 more years and every now and then there will be violent uprisings killing and hurting many people.
You just described and unconditional surrender, NOT a peace plan.
and every now and then there will be violent uprisings killing and hurting many people.
That will result from Israel being attacked and provoked by Hamas, just like always.
They aren't in a position to force the issue, since they are at a material and manpower disadvantage and they always start the violence.
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Oh come on, John, it's so obvious that the only thing that will make the Palestinians including Hamas happy is "Palestine will be free from the river to the sea." Surely we are all not so naive to think that anything less would be acceptable.
Oh DO tell me all about your vast knowledge about the Six Day War Xx. It may behoove you to review the FACT that it was between Israel, Egypt, Syria and Jordan. The Palestinians weren't 'combatants' nor did the surrender to anyone.
The PLO didn't become the representatives of the Palestinian people until 1993.
Does it say in there when the Palestinians surrendered?
They've never wanted a "two-state solution". They've rejected every "peace plan" for decades now. Quit trying to sell that lie.
My vision presents a win-win for both sides,” Mr. Trump
Translation - I know there is a way I can profit from this. (Blows Ben a kiss).
There is as much a chance of the Palestinians accepting this so-called "Deal of the Century" as there is of all Americans giving up their guns. It just ain't gonna happen - what an unbelievable waste of time and effort. Even the discussion about it is a waste of time and effort.
"Mr. Trump’s plan would create what he called a Palestinian state with limited sovereignty"
Maybe.....Just maybe..... if they showed any inkling of "Producing anything more than just Terrorism", they could get Full Sovereignty ?