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Fauci warns protesters about dangers of ending lockdowns prematurely: 'It's going to backfire'

  

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Via:  buzz-of-the-orient  •  6 years ago  •  88 comments

By:   Brendan Morrow

Fauci warns protesters about dangers of ending lockdowns prematurely: 'It's going to backfire'

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Fauci warns protesters about dangers of ending lockdowns prematurely: 'It's going to backfire'

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Dr. Anthony Fauci is warning about the dangers of reopening the United States too quickly in a message to those protesting stay-at-home orders.

Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and member of President Trump's coronavirus task force, appeared on   Good Morning America   on Monday after protests in some cities against stay-at-home orders; at one in Texas,   video captured protesters   calling for Fauci to be fired. Polls, however,   have found   that more Americans are worried about restrictions being loosened too soon than not soon enough.

Asked for his message to those protesting, Fauci told ABC, "The message is that clearly this is something that is hurting from the standpoint of economics ... but unless we get the virus under control, the real recovery, economically, is not going to happen."

Fauci went on to stress the importance of a gradual reopening.

"If you jump the gun, and go into a situation where you have a big spike, you're going to set yourself back," he said. "So as painful as it is to go by the careful guidelines of gradually phasing into a reopening — it's going to backfire. That's the problem."

These comments come after President Trump on Friday appeared to express support for stay-at-home protesters in some states on Twitter. During a White House briefing on Sunday,   Trump said   those protesting stay-at-home orders have "cabin fever" and "want their life back."

“Clearly this is something that this is hurting …. but unless we get the virus under control, the real recovery, economically, is not going to happen.” — NIAID director Dr. Anthony Fauci on protests against stay-at-home orders.   pic.twitter.com/n7x3cunEAm

— Good Morning America (@GMA)   April 20, 2020


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Buzz of the Orient
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1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    6 years ago

If Americans don't wish to follow the guidelines, which worked when eveyone complied with them where I live, the results are bound to be regretted.  What's more important to Americans, their money or their life? (That sounds like something a mugger might say.).  

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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1.2  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1    6 years ago

China is going to receive their lumps when the dust settles on this pandemic from the international community. 

That being said, the only thing that Americans should be focused on is our Federal and local response to protect our people's health, that allows us get ourselves back open again.

 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2  Tacos!    6 years ago

You can’t make reasonable blanket statements on this topic that apply to every community.

I’d say if the healthcare in your community is in a good place, then go for it. Loosen things up. Just be prepared to clamp down with restrictions if the hospital admissions start spiking.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tacos! @2    6 years ago

Tacos,

I generally agree with you, but you also have to look at population density and proximity to those centers. A spike can very quickly turn into a large cluster and we all know how that goes. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.1  Gordy327  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1    6 years ago

Indeed. All it takes is 1 infected person to spread the virus. Then it escalates exponentially. That's how it took hold here. But if people want to be stupid and ignore lock down or distancing guidelines, then they're just asking to be infected. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gordy327 @2.1.1    6 years ago

Not only that, but with this virus you could show no symptoms for the first two weeks and not even know you have the virus, but it is still infectious during those two weeks and you can spread it.  That is one of the reasons why a more universal adherence to the guidelines is necessary.  Many of those protesters out there who are unmasked could not only be infected, but spreading it among others.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.3  Gordy327  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.2    6 years ago

Exactly. That's why the virus is so bad and why people should self quarantine. It's amazing how some people get upset and protest measures to keep them and others healthy and safe, and all because they find themselves inconvenienced. It's a selfish mentality. Well, if any protesters get Covid while breaking distancing and isolation measures, they shouldn't go to a hospital then. They willingly brought it on themselves due to their stupidity.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.4  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gordy327 @2.1.3    6 years ago

Thank you.  Thankfully there are members of NT who have a brain in their heads. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.5  Gordy327  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.4    6 years ago
Thankfully there are members of NT who have a brain in their heads. 

With certain exceptions, I'm not so sure. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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2.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  Tacos! @2    6 years ago
Just be prepared to clamp down with restrictions if the hospital admissions start spiking.

That might be a problem.  I can see folks rebelling against renewed restrictions.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.2    6 years ago

I do too and that worries me.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.3  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tacos! @2    6 years ago

IMO the only way this scourge can be eradicated is for universal adherence to strict guidlines. Wtihout that the numbers will pobably keep increasing.  That's what was done in the 32 million population city-state where I live, and things are now almost entirely back to normal except the schools/unversities are still closed, but I expect they will soon open.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.3.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @2.3.1    6 years ago

Seems to me all the propaganda is coming from Trump.  What have you seen from China?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.3.4  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @2.3.3    6 years ago

Pearl Harbour was an intentional invasion of the USA - the fact that you use it as a comparison is just your fantasy, looking for an excuse for revenge.  I'm surprised that some people who feel the way you do haven't gone out and beaten up a couple of Chinese-American kids to sate their anger.  Oh, wait a sec.  I think some have already done that. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.3.6  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @2.3.5    6 years ago

Do you mean what I am doing or what China is doing? 

If you mean what I am doing, then yes, I am intentionally posting on NT what I have seen with my own eyes or hear from those I trust, INCLUDING my criticism of the CCP for the silencing of the whistleblowers and whatever else I believe they did wrongfully, but I can also understand (although I don't necessarily agree with) their reasons for doing so.  I have not been doing that to spread the Communist gospel (as I have been accused of doing), but only to set straight the lies, misconceptions and ignorance that some post on this site.  

If you mean what China is doing, I do not believe they have intentionally caused harm to any country or their people since it has, and was bound to, cause similar harm to China and its people as well.  That logic seems to escape some people. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    6 years ago

Obviously some balance needs to be reached in the USA, but if the contagiousness of this pandemic is ignored, the guidlines not followed, (and I shake my head when I see the videos and photos of the number of people who are not wearing masks and keeping social distance in the USA), don't be surprised if your motto "Live Free OR Die":doesn't morph into "Live Free AND Die". 

 
 
 
pat wilson
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5  pat wilson    6 years ago

These protesters that end up contacting covid-19 will be treated by the medical community the exact same as everyone else, no matter the protesters selfishly rolled the dice with not just their own stupid lives but those in their immediate contact. Disgusting.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  pat wilson @5    6 years ago

No doubt that people will continue to defy the guidelines notwithstanding they don't even know during the first couple of weeks of being infected they will not show any symptoms, but will still be infectious and spread the disease to others. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
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5.1.1  pat wilson  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.1    6 years ago

The reality is we don't know who is or isn't a carrier. Even if you're tested today and you're negative who's to say you won't be contaminated tomorrow ??

No one wants to admit that it's pretty much a crap shoot whether you get it or not. Best we can do is do our own due diligence. Cover your face, wash your hands and be conscious of what's going on around you.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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5.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  pat wilson @5.1.1    6 years ago

Pat, 

You are right that you can not tell who is a carrier, but with the new antibody test, hopefully, we will be able to identify who is now immune (or we hope are immune). That is the goal. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
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5.1.3  pat wilson  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.2    6 years ago

Someone might be immune but could pass the contamination to others. How do you stop that ? You can't.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1.5  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  pat wilson @5.1.3    6 years ago

Everyone wearing a mask, whether or not they are sick, may not be prevented from catchng the virus, but it CAN be effective to prevent the person wearing the mask from spreading it to others. That is why universal adherence to the guidelines is necessary.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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5.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  pat wilson @5    6 years ago
These protesters that end up contacting covid-19 will be treated by the medical community the exact same as everyone else, no matter the protesters selfishly rolled the dice with not just their own stupid lives but those in their immediate contact. Disgusting.

My daughters being part of that medical community. You have no idea how much personal sacrifice goes into every hospital worker. I have not seen my girls in over 35 days now because they can't come in and risk infecting their grand parents. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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6  Dean Moriarty    6 years ago

We were hit hard early on so we are a couple weeks ahead of the rest of the country. We are now moving into the reopening stage. The rest of the state should be here soon and the stay at home order for the entire state is being lifted on Sunday.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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7  Perrie Halpern R.A.    6 years ago

I can't get the article, but I wish you and your state luck. 

 
 
 
Veronica
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10  Veronica    6 years ago

Can someone please explain to me why so many are blaming China & saying China should pay if Covid 19 is no worse than the flu.  If it is no big deal why are some making where it came from such a big deal?  Is it a big deal or is it not?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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10.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Veronica @10    6 years ago

I doubt many of them would want the US to be held responsible for H1N1, which started in California.

 
 
 
Veronica
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10.1.1  Veronica  replied to  sandy-2021492 @10.1    6 years ago

I guess my main thing is I keep being told that the economy needs to be opened up & since this is no worse than the flu there is no reason to have lockdowns, but the people that have stressed that to me over & over are also the ones screaming for China's head on a platter.

I do not remember any blame placed for H1N1 - of course I could have missed it.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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10.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  sandy-2021492 @10.1    6 years ago
H1N1, which started in California

From what I have read, it started in Mexico.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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10.1.3  sandy-2021492  replied to  Tacos! @10.1.2    6 years ago

I stand corrected.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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10.1.4  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tacos! @10.1.2    6 years ago

Okay, let's look at something else.  How about the damage, and in fact the deaths caused by the fact that Trump pulled out of the Paris accords and refuses to comply with international standards set for preventing global warming causing not only increased pollution but also physical damage especially caused by American lack of climate control?  Are people around the world saying "We'll get even with America for that"?  Are people going to blame Trump for what is bound to be an increase in uncontrolled sickness and death especially among poorer nations because of his defunding the WHO?  People in glass houses should not throw stones.  I agree that if what the CCP did or didn't do was INTENTIONALLY meant to harm the rest of the world it should be punished for doing so, but when what happened had so greatly harmed the health, lives and economy in China, I cannot believe that what happened was intentional. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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10.1.5  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tacos! @10.1.2    6 years ago

Where did HIV - AIDS start?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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10.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @10.1.5    6 years ago

It came from chimpanzees in Africa. They spread it to hunters.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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10.1.7  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tacos! @10.1.6    6 years ago

chimps, or monkeys ?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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10.1.8  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tacos! @10.1.6    6 years ago

Why didn't America sue Africa?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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10.1.9  Tacos!  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @10.1.8    6 years ago

Well, first, maybe because Africa isn't a country. It's hard to sue a continent.

But more importantly, the issue with China is negligence and/or fraud, intentionally endangering the whole world, etc.. In other words, they are actually culpable in some way.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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10.1.10  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tacos! @10.1.9    6 years ago

Okay, the Congo.  I'll put my money on the lawsuit failing, not just because a person would have to be totally brainless to know that the Plaintiff most likely kniew that already, but that wasn't his motive, it was for political points - in hopes for a November re-election.  In fact that's what ALL the blame China coming from Political voices from Trump down is really for, and everyone here knows it. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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10.2  Tacos!  replied to  Veronica @10    6 years ago
why so many are blaming China & saying China should pay

There is supposedly evidence indicating that China may have had control of this thing in a lab and it escaped through negligence. Then further, that the outbreak was covered up.

 
 
 
Veronica
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10.2.1  Veronica  replied to  Tacos! @10.2    6 years ago

Oh I get that, but the same people that are talking about suing China & how China is on the hook and should be punished for this are also the ones that keep saying that Covid 19 is no worse than the flu and we should all to back to our normal lives.

Mind you I am looking forward to the lightening up of our precautions in NYS.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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10.2.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tacos! @10.2    6 years ago

And guess who built that lab for them.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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10.2.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Veronica @10.2.1    6 years ago
Mind you I am looking forward to the lightening up of our precautions in NYS.

Tell me about it. But I also don't want to go backwards to the beginning again. 

 
 
 
Veronica
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10.2.4  Veronica  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10.2.3    6 years ago

Me neither.  I am glad he is leaving the masks in place right now.  Now if only people would take into consideration their health & the health of those around them.

Here is a little story:  Saturday I went to Target (they had a sign out front stating masks were mandatory) to buy birthday gifts for my daughter and pick up some supplies.  She needed new sunglasses so I went to the display only to see a woman & her son touching all the glasses with their masks (bandannas) pulled down & wiping their noses on their sleeves.  I made sure to disinfect the glasses when I got home.  No chance taking with my daughter's health. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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10.2.6  Tacos!  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10.2.2    6 years ago
And guess who built that lab for them.

If I build you a car, am I responsible for the way you drive it?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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10.2.7  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XDm9mm @10.2.5    6 years ago

Interesting how the story keeps changing as each time there is a realization it isn't true.

1.  The lab was insecure

2.   It wasn't the lab, it was the handling of the virus that allowed it to escape.

3.   It' was intentionally allowed to escape.

4.   It wasn't intentional it was negligence (i.e back to "handling"). 

5.   Maybe it wasn't negligence, but just accidental and covered up for 6 whole days.

...and round and round we go.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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10.2.8  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tacos! @10.2.6    6 years ago

No, but maybe there were flaws in the construction that caused the accident...like faulty brakes.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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10.2.9  Tacos!  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @10.2.8    6 years ago

Then you'd think they would be quick to point it out. Alas . . . 

 
 

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