MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski Calls Out Diehard Trump Supporters: 'How Stupid Can You Be?'
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Lindsey Ellefson August 14, 2020
MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski went off Friday morning, urging supporters of President Donald Trump not to be so "stupid" and Republican lawmakers to "wake up" about the ways she says the president is dangerously impacting the country.
"There's clear disdain that I have for this president, but look at the facts," the "Morning Joe" co-host said. "Look at how he's worn us down, from his paid-off porn star to Russia lies to racism in Charlottesville, racism across the board, children in cages… I mean lie after lie after lie. Conspiracy theories. Our country right now is really at a breaking point. If we don't find a way to hold this president accountable with his attempts to undermine the Post Office and also his apparent negligence — perhaps purposeful — on saving the American people's lives in this pandemic. You are pathetic at this point."
She went on, accusing Trump of "choosing not to" keep people alive amid the coronavirus pandemic and accusing his fellow GOP lawmakers of letting it happen.
Brzezinski's anti-Trump remarks lasted the duration of a three-hour show and caught attention online Friday.
"How stupid can you be, at this point, if you follow this president?" she demanded at one point. "I beg you not to be, for your life!"
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A lot of Americans are asking the same question...
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You have no answers, do you, Greg?
Never does....... Goes so far to ask the same questions time and time again even when they are answered.
Greg is here to waste our time.
So let's not indulge him
Nothing new there.
... but you have no details and no links...
Yay!
"None so blind... "
Have you ever read about Manafort, Stone, Gates, Papadopoulos and Flynn?
Reporter: The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump : "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.
Interesting that you jump to boarder crossings for that one. You should have kept your power dry for the next one.
Trump has exhibited racism enumerable times.
Ok.........now what do YOU want to talk about.
Or... there's also this;
US Senate report goes beyond Mueller to lay bare Trump campaign's Russia links
Bipartisan intelligence panel says that Russian who worked on Trump’s 2016 bid was career spy, amid a stunning range of contacts
There's lots more here.
Uh....Trump wasn't president when that pix was taken
FAIL!
Uh, Trump sure as fuck WAS President when that picture was taken.
"Immigrant children at Central Processing Center in McAllen, Tex., on May 23, 2018 (Photo courtesy of U.S. Border Patrol)."
FAIL!
Did someone get charged with spying on the Trump campaign that I missed?
Yes.
Actually, we both gave examples.
You didn't ask a question.
I'm sorry, gig... I have neither the time nor the desire to bring you up to date on US and world events of the last four years. I highly recommend that you find some reliable sources, and do a lot of catching up.
Judging from you below comment, no.
What?
What?
What part of my 1.1.10 post didn't you understand?
Perhaps if you read my 1.1.10 post more slowly you'd recognize them.
If you're going to insist that I give answers, you'll need to.
Since I didn't say anything about 'racist comments', I can't help you.
Is this a private party? Last I knew, it was an open forum...
Why get pissed at me because you can't constructed a fucking cogent question?
You're comment proves unworthy of my time answer.
Anyone who hasn't seen or heard Trump's racism either hasn't been paying attention or is lying to themselves.
Four more years! I love that!
Never expect an honest answer to a honest question from some folks here. Expect sophomoric insults, deflections, redirects and the simple spewing of more disingenuous narrative.
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You and yours really could use some education on how to cogently form interrogatories.
If your desperate for claims of racism, go watch the RNC again.
Stupid is as stupid does . . .
I've already asked that very question, but to no avail, because there are those on NT who continue to blindly follow, even emulate, their Pied Piper. His attempts to stifle mail-in ballots made me think he was capable of going so far as to blow the electricity sources in America to prevent anyone from watching the DNC virtual convention.
Now I know that squirrels can shut down power grids - I'm just not sure if being squirrelly is enough to do it.
Maybe if squirrel has moose for sidekick...
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Trump has already said that the only way he would lose is if the election is rigged. So there is his way out of accepting the election results if he does not win.
And then there is this from the WH as to whether or not he will accept the election if he loses.
So he is already prepping his base and armed militia to prevent his being made to leave the WH if he loses. He has also stated that he will run for a third term.
Are you listening America? Trump plans to refuse to accept the results of the election if he loses. And he is doing all he can to make sure that he wins, by hook or crook, which is his forte, and the only way he knows how to win.
Back in the spring of 2016, when it began to be clear that Trump would be the GOP nominee, I said that sooner or later America would have to confront Trump supporters. The point came, even that long ago, when his supporters became more of a problem and threat to our nation than Trump himself.
Of course I have been attacked and harassed by Trump supporters on NT pretty much every day since. All I can tell them is that they are the problem here, not me. They are the ones who mindlessly support the worst president in U.S. history, not me.
They really should be hoping he loses, so they can finally get off the hook. There isnt a chance in hell Donald Trump will ever be judged by history to be a decent president or even a decent human being. His followers are deluded and only fooling themselves. History will not be kind.
I liked the 'Good Ole Days', didn't you?
Think about that, making up his own facts. This clip above was May 2017 when the US Labor Bureau of Statics put these statistics out.
Seven states at historically low unemployment rates in May 2017
June 22, 2017
In May 2017, unemployment rates in seven states were at their lowest levels since the state unemployment data series began in January 1976. Colorado had the lowest unemployment rate in May, 2.3 percent, followed by North Dakota, 2.5 percent, both of which were the lowest rates ever recorded in those states. The rates in Arkansas (3.4 percent), California (4.7 percent), Mississippi (4.9 percent), Oregon (3.6 percent), and Washington (4.5 percent) were also at series lows. Alaska and New Mexico had the highest jobless rates among the states, 6.7 percent and 6.6 percent, respectively.
didnt watch the video and am not going to, but dont you think that in Jun of 2017 Barack Obama was more responsible for the low unemployment rate at that time than Trump was ?
Now how can you learn anything if you refuse to open your eyes and see and open your ears and hear?
Well, here's some more from US Labor Bureau of Statistics for May 2018.
May 2018Gosh, man! Picked that up from Bunker Joe. Pretty good, huh? Here's a transcript I worked up for you.
Joe: "That's what I hear from all the Trump supporters that I talk to who were Trump voters and are still Trump supporters. Tthey say yea, yea, you guys are going crazy. He's doing, what do you think of the President, he's doing exactly what he said he was going to do."
Mika: "Well and I think the danger you know that uh, uh, as is here, is he is trying to undermine the media , trying to make up his own facts and it could be while unemployment and the economy uh, uh, worsens he could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control ah, exactly what people think and that is, that is our job."
Don't ask me to do that again, especially for Mika!!!
You've got a lot of links. What are your conclusions ?
Pat, you'd have to look at the video and work your way down to understand the point and conclusions.
"Pat, you'd have to look at the video and work your way down to understand the point and conclusions."
What a waste of time that would be.
You should post your conclusions instead of a shitload of links and ask us to come to our conclusions.
What a mishmosh of links you've thrown together.
It's a method. Throw up a ton of links - no matter their relevance - in hopes that the interlocutor will waste lots of time, discovering that there was no point.
The purpose is not to arrive at the truth. The purpose is to "win".
"Win what?," you ask. Good question.
Or you could simply condense that into one or two coherent conclusions.
BTW who is "Bunker Joe" ? You may be thinking of Bunker trump. Remember when he was ushered to the White House basement when there were loud protestors outside ?
even as some of his campaign advisers were recommending that he deliver a televised address to an anxious nation.
Donald Trump had only been in office for four months and had passed no related bills and done nothing to help further reduce unemployment, he was just riding the trend already created by President Obama who had seen it drop to 4.7% by January 2017 under his watch. Getting another half percent by May (4.1% national unemployment) was inevitable no matter who won the election that year as it had been steadily dropping since May 2016.
There are three different populations among Trump supporters:
1 TrumpTrueBelieversTM, adepts in a sect, who literally cannot believe that their Prophet is less than perfect;
2 TrumpApostles TM, senior members of the sect, who transmit the Prophet's Word, with instructions on how to diffuse it (via forums like NT, for example);
3 TrumpBloodsuckersTM, the cynics who gull the TrumpTrueBelieversTM, selling everything from MAGA caps to books to speeches to ...
None of these can ever recognize the slightest fault in the Prophet, whether by fervent Belief or by gutter-level self-interest.
Carrying on with Mika's "It's our job to control what people think", this fellow, who, by the way must be in one of your 3 categories of Trump supporters. He can't be black. The Democrat plantation is very deceitful and even I don't run around telling everyone I'm a Trump supporter because you know, it can be pretty dangerous. I think this fellow can take care of himself, though. We'll show our faces when we vote for Donald Trump at our own peril, but we still believe in freedom for all and will put ourselves out risk. Of course the Democrats will be filling out voter ballots in the rest homes for the elderly, so we have a real job ahead of us.
The only thing open and honest about the comment is her disdain. Russia lies? Is she talking about the lies Clinesmith is in the news for? Kids in cages...during Obama's admin? Racism? Holy shit, if it weren't for Trump, there never would have been slaves in the US, right?
clinesmith? who is that?
LOL
There is no reason why a Black cannot be a TrumpTrueBelieverTM.
TrumpTrueBelieversTM, by definition, believe the Prophet's Word rather than the evidence of their own eyes... so there's no reason a Black cannot be blind to Trump's racism.
Right? Nothing to see here folks.
Another village is missing its idiot.
No wonder they have such a hard time. They open a book, read a page and wonder why they don't understand what the book is about. Geezzzzzzz.......
If they are like my sister, they read a page, claim to know everything the book is about, and get offended when confronted with the realities of the book.
Sounds like a few of our liberal friends here
Wow. That's awesome.
You have a sister who is representative of all of them!
Wow!
No, she isn't, which assertion cannot even be inferred from my comment. Apparently, you failed to read the first 6 words of the comment, to-wit:
The irony here amazing. My comment clearly suggests that some people, like my sister, read only a portion of a work, then make claims on the substance thereof. Then you come along.
So... you are citing your sister because........ she isn't representative of anything...?
Look... lots of us have problems with our sibs. I do. But NT is probably not the best place to try to gauge the extent of those problems.
Its actually a great place. I already had a good sense that you shared many things in common with her. You've backed that up twice with your responses to me.
1) You didn't read, or deliberately ignored, portions of the 1st comment. Which was the very subject of the comment you responded to. Again, the irony there is amazing. and,
2) When faced with the plain flaw with your first comment, you fall straight to a position of unreasonableness. You went from my sister representing everyone to my sister being representative of nothing. I got it. You are Darth Plagueis. Only the Sith deal in such absolutes as you are attempting to apply here.
... OK... I give up...
Why are you citing your sister?
We've heard it all before, and no matter how many times it's repeated, it's still bullshit.
No matter what Republican got elected, this same foolishness would still be going on.
Progressives keep losing elections for very good reasons, the main one being is they can't govern.
Do you think that Trump is "just another Republican"? It seems to me that he is either different or a distillation. Other Republicans have shown disdain for democratic norms, but none so blatantly as Trump.
It doesn’t matter. Crazed leftists attacked bush’s first inauguration and immediately talked about impeaching him. Then forged docs were used against him in 2004. Bush derangement syndrome was the Original derangement syndrome. Then McCain was, In the words of John Lewis, the same as a church bomber. The Democratic leader of The senate proudly lied about Romney’s tax returns while joe Biden claimed he would put black people back in chains.
it goes back further, Goldwater was a Nazi, Reagan, per the speaker of the house, was evil. I could go on and on.
it doesnt matter who the republican is, the response is always over the top hysteria from Democrats.
That's terrible! Do you have a link?
look up cbs news’s coverage of the 1964 Republican convention. I can’t remember the reporters name off hand.
Here a sample of some psychiatrists calling Goldwater crazy with a hitler like profile:
Ruth Adams of New York replied that she saw in the GOP candidate “a strong identification with the authoritarianism of Hitler, if not identification with Hitler himself,” and other responding psychiatrists echoed that theme. “I believe Goldwater has the same pathological make-up as Hitler, Castro, Stalin and other known schizophrenic leaders,” wrote Chester M. Johnson, Jr., of Long Beach, while Philadelphia’s Paul Fink observed that, like the Führer, the Republican nominee “appeals to the unconscious sadism and hostility in the average human being.” G. Templeton, of Glen Cove, New York, warned that “if Goldwater wins the Presidency, both you and I will be among the first into the concentration camps.”“
The left has been playing from the same playbook for 50 plus years.
funny how modern progressives wax poetic about him now that he’s safely dead.
So... the answer is "No, you do not have a link."
You accuse "crazed leftists" and the Democrats... but then you cite random guys who you say are psychiatrists. You give no indication of why you consider their opinions significant.
I have never heard of these guys - that's not necessarily a problem...... But they return zero hits in a Google-search... which kinda is a problem.
Either you are citing quidams of no standing, which would be a worthless attempt to cover the fact that you have no serious source for your accusation... or you're just makin' shit up because hey!
answer is "No, you do not have a link."
I'm sorry Bob, I thought you were familiar with American history. I didn't think the genesis of the "Goldwater rule" needed a link. But here you go:
To recap, psychiatrists, without actually evaluating Goldwater, compared him to Hitler in an article and slandered him in the same way all Republicans get slandered by Democrats. The article then got promoted in all the major liberal newspapers. This so embarrased the APA they passed a rule to stop psychiatrists from diagnosing public figures (though they continue to do it with Republicans with regularity)
t they return zero hits in a Google-search... which kinda is a problem.
You must have a problem with Google! A simple cut and paste of the quote I provided returned numerous hits.
Here's one
, “us source for your accusation... or you're just makin' shit up because hey!
Nah, I just overestimated your ability to use Google. For me, googling quotes is pretty easy. I'll try and remember you aren't so skilled.
I'm sorry, Sean... I thought you were talking about
... oh, wait... you were talking about "crazed leftists"...
... who suddenly morphed into... psychiatrists...
Did you perhaps intend to say "crazed leftist psychiatrists"? That's quite a demographic!
Since you apparently did not read my post , I'll repeat it here: " I have never heard of these [persons whom you cited nominatively , Sean] - that's not necessarily a problem...... But they return zero hits in a Google-search... which kinda is a problem."
Sean... you chose to cite those persons, as if their opinion was important at the time. If that was the case... Google has forgotten them...
And then... you changed to a different Google search. And hey! You have one that works for you! Isn't that amazing??
You're sure to always be right, Sean, when you change the subject to whatever you want, right in the middle of the conversation.
I guess Adam Schiff's name is blacked out in so many words. These people are desperate. They know the poop is coming down the drain toward the sewer where they live.
Actually I don't blame them for being desperate. They have good reason to be.
Mika and Joe were Trump's biggest cheerleaders back in 2015 and 2016. Trump hasn't changed since then so Mika and Joe can't use that as a defense to justify their 180.
But once the liberal watchdogs got upset with them, they over corrected. After all, they work for MSNBC and only one narrative is acceptable there.
So they changed tunes for a paycheck. And apparently people still take them seriously.....
This is classic.
We are suppose to listen to this "triggered" liberal lemming?
Hilarious!
All that nonsense and the link doesn't work!
Don't ask a question that you don't already know the answer to, willful ignorance is the defining characteristic of anyone who avoids facing the reality of a failed presidency and still supports that level of failure.
It's still going strong, has not failed
Facts are fun
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It might make one feel better but it is pointless to call your opposition stupid.
Can I find any points in common with a Trump supporter. No.
Can I find any points in common with a constitutionally conservative Republican - there might be a couple. Some goals - yes - but the path to those goals - no.
Do I entertain any hope that a government requiring compromise with the present Republican party would produce something I would approve of. No.
So there really is not any reason for prolonged debates. "Your mama wears Army boots." "So does yours." After that, I'm ready to find a new seed to do research for.
Short of a two state solution, I'm afraid we will, as a country, careen left and right until my generation and perhaps another dies off.
But I'm optimistic - perhaps our great grandchildren will turn out to be better at this.