Trump's 'plane loaded with thugs' conspiracy theory matches months-old rumor

  

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Via:  jbb  •  3 weeks ago  •  31 comments

By:   Ben Collins (NBC News)

Trump's 'plane loaded with thugs' conspiracy theory matches months-old rumor
The conspiracy theory that President Donald Trump pushed Monday that a plane "almost completely loaded with thugs" was set to disrupt the RNC was almost identical to a rumor that went viral on Facebook three months ago.

Trump is our fake lyingass gossip monger in chief...


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The conspiracy theory that President Donald Trump pushed Monday that a plane "almost completely loaded with thugs" had been set to disrupt the Republican National Convention was almost identical to a rumor that went viral on Facebook three months ago.

In an interview with Fox News host Laura Ingraham, Trump claimed that "we had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with thugs, wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms, with gear and this and that."

He then claimed the matter was "under investigation right now."

There is no evidence of any such flight. When Ingraham asked for more information about the flight, the president said, "I'll tell you sometime." He then alleged the people had been headed to Washington to disrupt the RNC.

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Before mentioning the uniformed men who allegedly boarded the plane, Trump claimed that there are "people that are in the dark shadows" and "people that you haven't heard of" controlling Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

Ingraham pressed the president for more details and said it sounded like he was alleging a conspiracy.

"They're people that are on the streets. They're people that are controlling the streets," Trump said.

The claim about the flight matches a viral Facebook post from June 1 that falsely claimed, "At least a dozen males got off the plane in Boise from Seattle, dressed head to toe in black." The post, by an Emmett, Idaho, man, warned residents to "Be ready for attacks downtown and residential areas," and claimed one passenger had "a tattoo that said Antifa America on his arm."

That post was shared over 3,000 times on Facebook, and other pages from Idaho quickly added their own spin to it, like the Idaho branch of the far-right militia group 3 Percenters.

One post claimed that "Antifa has sent a plane load of their people" and that the Payette County Sheriff's Office confirmed it. Within days, that version of the rumor picked up enough steam in Idaho Facebook groups that the Payette County Sheriff's Office had to release a statement insisting that the viral rumor was "false information."

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Rumors of marauding bands of Antifa supporters have plagued local Facebook groups, chain emails and forwarded text messages since mid-May. One of the most viral rumors on an Antifa invasion into the suburbs was taken down after Twitter said it was created by a troll account with ties to white nationalists.

Some armed Americans took to town squares in several towns to fight off fictitious busloads of Antifa in June, spurred by false rumors on Facebook pages. Seven days after the original Idaho rumor went viral on Facebook, armed men stood guard over protests in Missoula, Montana, worried about the planeloads of Antifa supporters.

Ben Collins

Ben Collins covers disinformation, extremism and the internet for NBC News.


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JBB
1  seeder  JBB    3 weeks ago

Thank Goodness our National Nightmare is ending...

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
1.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  JBB @1    3 weeks ago

With the end of the Trump "Reality Show."

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2  Paula Bartholomew    3 weeks ago

Those weren't thugs.  They were members of the RNC wearing black in mourning for the death of Trump's campaign.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3  Dismayed Patriot    3 weeks ago

Could you imagine how the right would react if this story was reversed?

"The conspiracy theory that Vice President Joe Biden pushed Monday that a plane "almost completely loaded with Nazi's" had been set to disrupt the Democrat National Convention was almost identical to a rumor that went viral on Facebook three months ago. In an interview with MSNBC host Rachel Maddow, Biden claimed that "we had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with Nazi's, wearing MAGA hats, black uniforms, with swastika gear and this and that".

He then claimed the matter was "under investigation right now.

There is no evidence of any such flight. Maddow asked for more information about the flight, the vice president said, "I'll tell you sometime." He then alleged the people had been headed to Wisconsin to disrupt the DNC."

People on the right would be losing their minds screaming about what a liar and fake he is for making such outrageous false claims. Sadly, with Trump doing it it's just another Tuesday... No one is surprised in the least and half of Trump supporters buy into the bullshit and the other half just chortle and claim they love how Trump "triggers" progressives with his many lies.

 
 
 
Gsquared
4  Gsquared    3 weeks ago

I'll tell you sometime.

Right.  Crawl back under your rock Donald.  We'll let out... sometime.

 
 
 
Gsquared
4.1  Gsquared  replied to  Gsquared @4    3 weeks ago

Correction"  "We'll let you out..."

 
 
 
CB
5  CB     3 weeks ago
Trump is our fake lyingass gossip monger in chief...

We have a conspiracy-theorist in charge of us, with nuclear codes. And, conservatives are "OKAY!" with that. Now if Joe Biden was a conspiracy-theorist what would the landscape look like? Donald is tin-foil loopy (with control of this nation's secrets and nuclear codes).

Donald is heaving the kitchen sink at us already.

 
 
 
Tessylo
6  Tessylo    3 weeks ago

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Trump continues claiming someone he knows saw plane ‘loaded with thugs’

CHRISTOPHER WILSON
Sep 1st 2020 1:05PM

For the second time in as many days, President Trump claimed without evidence that a plane filled with left-wing agitators either was or had been traveling somewhere within the U.S. 

“A person was on a plane, said that there were about six people like that person, more or less, and what happened is the entire plane filled up with the looters, the rioters, the anarchists, people that were obviously looking for trouble and the person felt very uncomfortable on the plane,” Trump said Tuesday at Joint Base Andrews before departing to visit Kenosha, Wisconsin.

Trump’s recent talk of planes filled with “the looters, the rioters” is confusing even some of the president’s allies and those who ignore his sometimes bizarre tangents. Trump has spent the last several weeks attempting to link his Democratic rival Joe Biden to the unrest in a number of American cities this month, but now appears to have taken that line of argument in a more conspiratorial direction. 

The president has yet to reveal the identity of the person who allegedly saw the left-wing activists on the plane. “I will see whether or not I can get that person to speak to you but this was a first-hand account of a plane going from Washington to wherever and I’ll see if I can get that information for you, maybe they’ll speak to you, maybe they won’t,” he said Tuesday. 

 
 
 
CB
7  CB     3 weeks ago

Russians are interfering in our elections (again). We need a president who will stand up to Putin, who poisons his political challengers. Trump is seriously crazy. And is supporting Russia's Putin. Why?

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1  Texan1211  replied to  CB @7    3 weeks ago

gee, and we were told how the Great Obama stood up and really punished the Russians!

I guess they didn't have much respect for him.

 
 
 
CB
7.1.1  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @7.1    3 weeks ago

Yeah. ODS bothering you again today there, Texan? Since you're lurking around, how about that news today from Germany: Putin critic Alexei Navalny poisoned with Soviet-era nerve agent, Germany says.

Will Donald speak out against this in his speech today in Wilmington, NC?

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  CB @7.1.1    3 weeks ago

Sorry, Charlie, but I just can't bring myself to get all worked up over some Russian dying.

But you go ahead with the faux-poutrage!

 
 
 
CB
7.1.3  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.2    3 weeks ago

The Russian is in a deep coma—but you go ahead and prep a faux-grave. Back to the question (not about you anyway):

Will Donald speak out against this in his speech today in Wilmington, NC?

It's presidential-level dealings, Texan. Surely, a president should state something, yes?

 
 
 
Texan1211
7.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  CB @7.1.3    3 weeks ago
The Russian is in a deep coma—but you go ahead and prep a faux-grave.

So I have heard. Sad.

Back to the question (not about you anyway):

Logically, if it isn't about me, why say anything about it not being about me?

Will Donald speak out against this in his speech today in Wilmington, NC?

Don't know, don't care. Nothing Trump can do about it anyways.

It's presidential-level dealings, Texan. Surely, a president should state something, yes?

Why? To make you feel something or some way?

 
 
 
CB
7.1.5  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.4    3 weeks ago

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Texan1211
7.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  CB @7.1.5    3 weeks ago

Got to hand it to you for originality! !

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Sean Treacy
7.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @7    3 weeks ago

Russians are interfering in our elections (

Sure are. They got just busted running a propaganda site that supports the riots and attacks trump. Unsurprisingly, a lot of it’s propaganda consisted of stealing articles from left wing journalists and reposting them.

 
 
 
CB
7.2.1  CB   replied to  Sean Treacy @7.2    3 weeks ago

Take it upstairs, Sean. I won't be spending time in dull understandings today. See ya. @7.1.1

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
7.2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.2    3 weeks ago
They got just busted running a propaganda site that supports the riots and attacks trump.

They weren't "attacking Trump", they were pretending to be supposed violent ANTIFA intentionally stirring up right wing extremists by feeding them the same bullshit narrative that all the "liberals" are the real violent folk even though it's right wing extremists who are the most deadly domestic terrorists in America as they have been for the last decade.

Unsurprisingly, a lot of it’s propaganda consisted of stealing articles from left wing journalists and reposting them.

Pure fantasy Sean. Apparently they were inciting violence at the protests, something right wing Boogaloo bois were trying to do as well, and then directing web traffic to Biden's campaign site to make it appear as if ANTIFA was somehow officially connected to Biden.

"Based on copies of the site on the Internet Archive, it was blank from 2013 until June of this year when it   began to feature a message   in support of the protests that erupted around the U.S. following the killing of George Floyd. The page declared, “we are actively increasing Membership” but provided no contact information for anyone interested in joining.

“We Are Antifa: Join Us & Take Action,” the note said, adding, “More to come ... Check back regularly for updates & How you can be part of something that is changing the world".

" people in control of any website can redirect to another, without the permission or even knowledge of the second site"

https://news.yahoo.com/atifa-website-one-america-chanel-rion-russia-004727528.html

 
 
 
Kavika
8  Kavika     3 weeks ago

It seems Trump's claims of a plane full of thugs is true. 

Here is the proof.

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pat wilson
8.1  pat wilson  replied to  Kavika @8    3 weeks ago

Pre-covid ?

 
 
 
Raven Wing
8.1.1  Raven Wing  replied to  pat wilson @8.1    3 weeks ago

If not pre-COVID, then there was not only a plane full of thugs, but, also a plane full of totally brainless people for not wearing any masks.

 
 
 
Kavika
8.1.2  Kavika   replied to  pat wilson @8.1    3 weeks ago
Pre-covid ? I believe so, pat.
 
 
 
Gsquared
8.2  Gsquared  replied to  Kavika @8    3 weeks ago

Just like a ship of fools.

 
 
 
Kavika
8.2.1  Kavika   replied to  Gsquared @8.2    3 weeks ago

If you look closely there are a number of Trump administration people there. Jim Jorden, Ben Carson, and others. 

Truly a ship of fools.  

 
 
 
MUVA
8.2.2  MUVA  replied to  Kavika @8.2.1    3 weeks ago

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Kavika
8.2.3  Kavika   replied to  MUVA @8.2.2    3 weeks ago

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Tessylo
8.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @8.2    3 weeks ago

A ship of trumpturds.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @8.2.3    3 weeks ago

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Thrawn 31
8.2.6  Thrawn 31  replied to  MUVA @8.2.2    3 weeks ago

Ben Carson is still alive?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
8.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  Kavika @8    3 weeks ago

Super gay. 

I will never let myself look like such a tool (outside of unit photos from the USMC).

 
 
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