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Women in Suburbia Are Not Too Worried About Its Ruin, Polls Say

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  4 years ago  •  15 comments

Women in Suburbia Are Not Too Worried About Its Ruin, Polls Say
"I don't even think about it," said Judy Jones about a series of apartment buildings half a block from her home in the Minneapolis suburb of Bloomington. She sounded surprised that she was supposed to be troubled by them. Even for the traffic they cause? Or the strain they put on local schools? "Oh, no," she said. Ms. Jones, 72, grew up in Bloomington, when the local junior high and high school had no African-American students she could recall. "And now I go to my grandchildren's school,...

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President Trump has sought to fan fears about lower property values and crime, but polls suggest his general statements are not resonating locally.

President Trump's effort to court suburban women by promising to protect their neighborhoods is encountering one sizable hitch: Most suburban women say their neighborhoods aren't particularly under threat.

At least, not in the ways the president has described.

Their communities feel safe to them, and they're not too concerned about poorer neighbors moving in, according to polls in some key battleground states by The New York Times and Siena College. They say in a national Monmouth University poll that racial integration is important to them, and unlikely to harm property values or safety. In interviews, many have never heard of the federal fair-housing rule encouraging integration that the president has often cited by name in arguing that Joe Biden would abolish the suburbs.

They're not even all that worked up about the idea of new apartments nearby, sullying suburbs dominated by single-family homes.

"Nope, not at all. I have no concern whatsoever about it," said Diane Wonchoba, an independent in the Minneapolis suburb of Blaine. She pointed to an apartment recently built half a mile from her house. "It's beautiful. Way to go. We built our home, so we were the new people on the block 20 years ago."

"I don't even think about it," said Judy Jones about a series of apartment buildings half a block from her home in the Minneapolis suburb of Bloomington. She sounded surprised that she was supposed to be troubled by them. Even for the traffic they cause? Or the strain they put on local schools?

"Oh, no," she said.

Ms. Jones, 72, grew up in Bloomington, when the local junior high and high school had no African-American students she could recall. "And now I go to my grandchildren's school, and there is such diversity," she said. "It's just amazing."

Demographic change and new development in the suburbs have no doubt unnerved some longtime residents (and studies suggest those unnerved residents speak the loudest in local politics, often blocking housing that would make communities more integrated and affordable). But those anxieties are hardly proving a decisive force in the presidential election.

If Mr. Trump hopes that fanning fears of suburban decline, following a summer of urban unrest, will help coax back some of the suburban women who have turned away from the Republican Party over the past four years, there is little evidence that it's working.

In last week's Times/Siena College polls in Minnesota and Wisconsin -- two states particularly affected by unrest -- Ms. Wonchoba, Ms. Jones and a majority of other suburban women said they would not be concerned if new apartments, subsidized housing developments or new neighbors with government housing vouchers came to their neighborhoods.

They also said, by a two-to-one margin, that they support government vouchers for lower-income families to live in more affluent communities. (On these questions, suburban women were relatively similar to suburban men.)


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 years ago

Trump attempt to turn suburbanites into right wing bigots is failing. 

In last week's Times/Siena College polls in Minnesota and Wisconsin -- two states particularly affected by unrest -- Ms. Wonchoba, Ms. Jones and a majority of other suburban women said they would not be concerned if new apartments, subsidized housing developments or new neighbors with government housing vouchers came to their neighborhoods.
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  Vic Eldred    4 years ago

Here would be my requirement for all the well educated "suburban women", isolated from AOC's America, in their affluent suburbs:

Ms Diane Wonchoba & co should be taken at 3:AM (with whatever children they have) to West Garfield Park on the outskirts of Chicago's south side and dropped off there. From there they should be made to walk to Washington Park, then Englewood, then North Lawndale and finish their journey at Grand Crossing.

No police and or citizen protection along the way!

After that they can be allowed to vote.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.1  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    4 years ago

Here would be my requirement for all the supposedly "tough-guy" Trump supporters living in or near Chicago:

They should be taken by boat at 3 a.m., dropped off in the middle of Lake Michigan and forced to swim to shore.

No life vests or floaties along the way!

After that they can be allowed to vote.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gsquared @2.1    4 years ago

I know they'd do fine. Any Trump supporters living there have to be tough.


After that they can be allowed to vote.

The funny part of it is all those who accomplished my requirements would have something in common with those who accomplished yours:

THEY WOULD ALL BE VOTING FOR TRUMP!

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.1.2  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    4 years ago

I have no doubt you will volunteer for the swim.  After all, Lake Michigan is only 307 miles long.  How long do you figure it will take you to swim 153.5 miles? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gsquared @2.1.2    4 years ago

Don't know. What I do know is that you missed the point.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.1.4  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.3    4 years ago

The point is that your comment #2 is ludicrous.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    4 years ago

Your comment doesnt make any sense Vic but thanks for the effort. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2    4 years ago

His comment is horrible and just this side of death wishing

 
 
 
lady in black
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3  lady in black    4 years ago

I'm a suburbanite woman and my property values are going way up.  My house was purchased in 2004 for $89,000, Cape Cod House - 3 bedrooms, 1 1/2 baths, kitchen, living rm, dining rm, florida room, basement family room with wet bar, 2 1/2 car garage.  Today houses in my area are selling at $180,000 and up.  One house on my street went for over $200,000.

Orange conman is wrong once again.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  lady in black @3    4 years ago

We bought our house in 2004 and it's in the best neighborhood in town. The value on our house has gone up about 35% or more

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1    4 years ago

We bought ours for $69,000 35 years ago and it is now going to list for $630,000.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.1.1    4 years ago

Holy.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But you live in California, don't you?

 
 
 
CB
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4  CB    4 years ago

These insights into conservative-think are really tiresome. Many of them are really opinionated about a great many class issues for which they intend to not solve. In any significant way. A pretty self-righteous bunch, they think of themselves as the model all others want to be be and live. Incidentally, liberals don't expend the same level of time and strength crawling through conservative "underwear."

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @4    4 years ago
liberals don't expend the same level of time and strength crawling through conservative "underwear."

It's bad enough I have to wash conservative underwear.....

 
 

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