The Border-Crisis Deniers

  

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Via:  1stwarrior  •  2 weeks ago  •  46 comments

The Border-Crisis Deniers
The defenses of Biden’s performance at the border are tendentious or dishonest.

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I t   should be perfectly obvious what’s happening at the border, but the Biden administration and journalistic allies are denying it all the same.

Homeland Security secretary Alejandro Mayorkas has been leading the way with a haze of misrepresentations.

On Sunday, he said that Title 42, the public-health authority   the Trump administration used   to quickly remove migrants during the pandemic, is largely still in place. “The border is closed,” he said. “We are expelling families. We are expelling single adults. And we ve made a decision that we will not expel young, vulnerable children.”

This is not true. It is a symptom of the crisis at the border that Border Patrol has been overwhelmed and simply releasing people.

According to   Axios , the use of Title 42 has been breaking down more broadly. It reported Department of Homeland Security data showing that just 13 percent of roughly 13,000 family members attempting to cross the U.S. in the week beginning March 14 were returned under Title 42.

Some migrants in the Rio Grande Valley,   per   Axios , are being released without a court date.

By way of blaming Trump for the crisis, Mayorkas said on Sunday, “Please remember something, that President Trump dismantled the orderly, humane and efficient way of allowing children to make their claims under United States law in their home countries. He dismantled the Central American Minors program.”

This is preposterous.   An analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies   explains the history. In response to the border crisis on its watch, the Obama administration created the Central American Minors program in 2014 to allow parents in the U.S. to petition for minors in the Northern Triangle to come to the United States. It was of limited use because it required that the parents be legally within the United States (when most parents who would have been interested are here illegally), while the minors had to qualify for refugee status (unlikely, since the Northern Triangle countries, whatever their other failures, generally aren’t persecuting people).

The Obama administration tried to make the program more attractive by expanding it in 2016 and working with the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees to establish something called the Protection Transfer Arrangement (PTA), which sought to process asylum-seekers via Costa Rica.

How useful was all of this? As a report from the Center for Immigration Studies notes, the U.N. evaluated PTA and found in a roughly two-year period just 140 people had been resettled and another 1,885 had been screened out, or had been rejected by a resettling country, or were still awaiting a decision.

There is no way that such programs, which are bureaucratically involved and, if they try to faithfully apply the standards for asylum, will approve only a small percentage of applicants, can possibly stanch the migrant flow. They can’t compete with the lure of showing up at the border and being assured entry into the U.S.

Finally, to defend the exemption that Biden created in Title 42 for minors, Mayorkas said, “We will not expel into the Mexican desert, for example, three orphan children whom I saw over the last two weeks. We just won’t do that. That’s not who we are.”

This is a tawdry distortion of what happened under Title 42. Children weren’t released back into the desert. They were flown home on government charter flights and handed over to social-service agencies for placement back with their families.

Even if we had wanted simply to push minors back across the border, Mexico had a policy against taking them.

Mayorkas, of course, always insists that there isn’t a crisis at the border, and he’s getting some back-up, however dubious.

An analysis piece at the   Washington Post   the other day was titled, “There’s no migrant ‘surge’ at the U.S. southern border. Here’s the data.”   The authors wrote, “We analyzed monthly CBP data from 2012 to now and found no crisis or surge that can be attributed to Biden administration policies.”

The article attributed the non-surge at the border to “seasonal changes,” plus “a backlog of demand.”

It’s hard to square this take with Mayorkas himself saying that the U.S. this year will have the biggest surge at the border in two decades.

Clearly, something is going on beyond seasonality (it is true that migration tends to pick up in the spring and then fall off in the summer).

Steve Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies has been crunching the numbers from Customs and Border Protection.

Per his analysis, there were more than twice as many unaccompanied minors apprehended in January of this year (5,694) than in January 2020 (2,680), prior to the pandemic.

In February, the number of unaccompanied minors, more than 9,000, was higher than it had been in any month since May 2019, when there was a widely acknowledged crisis at the border.

In February of this year, more family units were apprehended at the border, nearly 19,000, than in any month since August 2019.

March isn’t finished, but the number for minors is likely to be the highest on record, topping 17,000.

This would exceed the peak of both 2019 and 2014, when roughly 11,000 minors arrived during the highest months of those crises.

Also, apprehension numbers don’t capture what happens after the migrants show up at the border. There’s a difference between apprehending them and sending them home (what the Trump administration did), and apprehending them and releasing them into the U.S. (what Biden is doing with unaccompanied minors and many family units now).

Do the numbers of apprehensions always increase in January and February, as the   Washington Post   authors suggest? No.

In January and February 2017, the numbers of unaccompanied minors and family units markedly declined from the end of 2016 (this was a function of the so-called Trump effect — fear that Trump would ferociously enforce the laws).

And in January and February 2018, they ticked down some from the end of the prior year.

What in particular happened in January and February of this year that might have made numbers jump so high? Joe Biden became president promising a new approach at the border and blew holes in the system Trump had created.

There was clearly a “Biden effect,” where people expected the new president to welcome them to the U.S.

The president of Mexico, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, has noted this. “Expectations were created,” he has said, “that with the Government of President Biden there would be a better treatment of migrants. And this has caused Central American migrants, and also from our country, wanting to cross the border thinking that it is easier to do so.”

And then Biden implemented an exemption in Title 42 for minors that common sense and experience suggest would create an incentive for more minors to come — exactly what has happened.

Reasonable people can disagree about immigration policy, but there can be no doubt that we are experiencing a crisis at the border, and one of Joe Biden’s making.


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1stwarrior
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1  seeder  1stwarrior    2 weeks ago

Discuss the topic/thread - not the source nor the seeder.

What in particular happened in January and February of this year that might have made numbers jump so high? Joe Biden became president promising a new approach at the border and blew holes in the system Trump had created.

So, what happened to following the Immigration Laws that have been established and implemented since 1940?  Laws passed by Congress and ignored by this Administration - totally ignored.

migrants in the Rio Grande Valley, per Axios, are being released without a court date.

WTF - that ain't a lawful thing to do.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  1stwarrior @1    2 weeks ago

Mayorkas is a leftist liberal appointee beurocratic hack who has zero clue of the real conditions on our Southern borders! He has his head buried in the sand in DC and sends his minions out instead who report back distorted facts so as not to displease their boss or the Biden administration. Disgusting!

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2  Split Personality  replied to  1stwarrior @1    2 weeks ago

BP are still  turning away thousands.  It just took a couple of months for the kids to start arriving unaccompanied after the court decision.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2  Greg Jones    2 weeks ago

migrants in the Rio Grande Valley, per Axios, are being released without a court date.

Many likely carrying Covid

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.1  seeder  1stwarrior  replied to  Greg Jones @2    2 weeks ago

In one of the reports that is supportive of this seed, it is stated that at least 1/2 of those released "probably" have Covid.

Not quite sure where they get the "probably" - but - I'm not doing the study.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @2    2 weeks ago
"Many likely carrying Covid"

PROVE IT!

 
 
 
Ender
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2.2.1  Ender  replied to  Tessylo @2.2    2 weeks ago

What cracks me up is the right wing was and is downplaying the virus, yelling and screaming about wearing masks, I could even throw in the anti-vaxers yet when it comes to the border, now all the sudden they are scared that immigrants may have the virus...

Yeah right...

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Ender @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

well, you know, it's that deadly brown virus vs. the not as bad white virus version.

 
 
 
dennis smith
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2.2.3  dennis smith  replied to  devangelical @2.2.2    2 weeks ago

Just another racist comment

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.2.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Ender @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

Not all conservatives. The governor of AZ just this week ceased state mandates for masks in government and public spaces. Private businesses have the option to demand or not demand masks. I personally choose to continue to wear a mask in enclosed spaces outside my home here in SE Arizona on the border. Many of the residents here that I know on both sides of the political spectrum feel the same.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.2.5  devangelical  replied to  dennis smith @2.2.3    2 weeks ago

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Ender
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2.2.6  Ender  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2.2.4    2 weeks ago

I personally think it is still a little early to open everything up.

Even after I get my second shot I still plan on wearing a mask to crowded places.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @2.2.6    2 weeks ago

"I personally think it is still a little early to open everything up.

Even after I get my second shot I still plan on wearing a mask to crowded places."

It is too early.

Everyone should still practice social distancing, face masks, and hand washing/sanitizing

 
 
 
arkpdx
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2.2.8  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.7    2 weeks ago

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Ronin2
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2.2.9  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @2.2.5    2 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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2.2.10  Tessylo  replied to  arkpdx @2.2.8    2 weeks ago

Why you so nasty and hateful arkie?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.2.11  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Ender @2.2.6    2 weeks ago

Same here.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

So there was no 'crisis' at the border BEFORE Joe Biden became President Biden?

 
 
 
arkpdx
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3.1  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @3    2 weeks ago

No but he has made it substantially worse in a very short time.

With the wall, sending or keeping the aliens in mexico, and the deportations of those here illegally Trump was actually doing something to slow down the influx of illegal aliens in this country. Biden invited them in. 

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.1  Ender  replied to  arkpdx @3.1    2 weeks ago

512

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  arkpdx @3.1    2 weeks ago

"No but he has made it substantially worse in a very short time."

Not true.

"With the wall, sending or keeping the aliens in mexico, and the deportations of those here illegally Trump was actually doing something to slow down the influx of illegal aliens in this country. Biden invited them in."

No trumpturd didn't do a damn thing about that or anything else other than lining his pockets and his 'donors' pockets.

No, President Biden did not.  

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.1.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

In your own words, PROVE IT!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.1.3    2 weeks ago

I wasn't talking to you, plus, no need, it's not true.  

 
 
 
arkpdx
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3.1.5  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.4    2 weeks ago

You were talking to me so now prove your BS is true. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  arkpdx @3.1.5    2 weeks ago

I don't answer to you!

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.1.7  Ronin2  replied to  Ender @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

What happened at the end of 2019 and throughout 2020? Could it have been the jackass Democrats during the primaries promising everything under the sun to illegals if they won?

Democrats are unified on the broad-strokes message they want to send on immigration, and on the fact that some kind of “comprehensive immigration reform” is necessary. In Congress, House Democrats have rallied around the Dream and Promise Act, a pathway to citizenship for unauthorized immigrants who came to the US as children and those with temporary humanitarian protections.

Still, immigration remains one of the most contentious policy issues in the United States. And Democrats’ plans so far aren’t addressing the most divisive issues, including whom to deport and whom to let in.

For now, they have an out: Trump’s immigration agenda is so extreme, they simply want to undo it.

“My first executive orders will be to reverse every single thing President Trump has done to demonize and harm immigrants,” Sanders said.

Every candidate supports a path to citizenship for the people currently living in the United States without papers — not just those who came in as children. Sanders, Harris, and Castro have publicly said they would pursue legislation to provide a path to citizenship for the 11 million unauthorized immigrants currently living the United States in their first 100 days in office.

And candidates’ first priority is to stop Trump’s immigration agenda. Inslee said his immediate actions include stopping the construction of Trump’s border wall, reinstating the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program — which the Trump administration decided to sunset, and which remains tied up in courts — and increasing the number of refugees the United States admits.

But some candidates are taking the debate further. Castro, the only Latino candidate in the Democratic primary, was first to propose a radical reshaping of immigration enforcement by calling to repeal the provision that makes “illegal entry” into the US a federal crime. The law has been on the books for decades but was rarely enforced until the George W. Bush administration, when criminal prosecution of unauthorized immigrants for illegal entry became increasingly common.

Many candidates have followed suit: Sanders, Warren, Harris, Booker, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, Inslee, Rep. Seth Moulton, Marianne Williamson, Andrew Yang, and Miramar, Florida, Mayor Wayne Messam have all support repealing the provision that makes being apprehended at the border a criminal offense.

Warren’s plan , she admits, “has a lot of Castro” in it. It not only decriminalizes crossing the border without papers but also includes reductions in immigration detention, the elimination of private detention facilities, and protecting schools, medical facilities, and courthouses from immigration enforcement.

Warren also called for ending programs that allow local law enforcement to be deputized as federal immigration officers, pledged to admit six to eight times as many refugees as Trump has in her first years as president, and to implement proposals that would make it easier for asylum seekers to get a day in court. Almost all the candidates support alternatives to detention facilities , including electronic monitoring and social work monitoring.

The candidates acknowledge this is all going to be an uphill battle in Congress, which has repeatedly failed to pass comprehensive immigration reform — especially when one chamber remains in Republican hands.

Some candidates have proposals to get around that, too. Harris has called for using executive action to expand deferred action immigration programs, and to change the immigration status of DREAMers to “lawful immigrants” and retroactively allow them to be permitted to work, which she said would put 2 million DREAMers on the path to citizenship.

O’Rourke’s plans also focus on executive action. As Dara Lind explained for Vox, O’Rourke’s proposed executive orders include ending “metering” — which is how US officials restrict the number of asylum seekers allowed to enter legally at ports of entry each day, ending family separation, and expanding DACA to also include the parents .

That said, while calls to “ Abolish ICE ” has become a rallying cry for activists, only New York City Mayor Bill DeBlasio and Messam support abolishing Immigration and Customs Enforcement and reallocating its duties to other departments.

Democrats rang the dinner bell long, loud, and hard. Now they are shocked at all the illegal immigrants they have drawn to the US. They think Trump brought them here; showing how fucking clueless (or deranged) they really are.

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.8  Ender  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1.7    2 weeks ago

There was a rise despite the spin being put upon it. 

Comical trying to blame an administration that was not even an administration...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1.7    2 weeks ago

Your usual projection, deflection, and denial - I didn't really waste my time going through your nonsense - did you remember to include 'leftist brown shirts'?

 
 
 
arkpdx
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3.1.10  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.6    2 weeks ago

Can't back up your claims huh. Not surprised. 

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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3.1.11  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Ender @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

I'm wondering if anyone notices that the graph shows apprehensions. Wouldn't that suggest that border patrol and local law enforcement were doing what they were supposed to do?

Just a thought. I'm not placing blame on any administration; I'm simply making an observation of the chart itself.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.12  Split Personality  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @3.1.11    2 weeks ago

Similar chart showing "detained" as opposed to apprehended, all presumably deported

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Last week, people apprehended in Brownsville were complaining about being transported to El Paso

for deportation in "a strange place".

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.1.13  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  arkpdx @3.1.10    2 weeks ago

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dennis smith
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3.1.14  dennis smith  replied to  arkpdx @3.1.5    2 weeks ago

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MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
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3.1.15  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.12    2 weeks ago

Okay. That still doesn't change what I'd said previously. If you notice, there's far more detained and apprehended when Republicans were in office. May be a coincidence. I'm not judging either way.

Last week, people apprehended in Brownsville were complaining about being transported to El Paso for deportation in "a strange place".

What do these people want, a personal escort to their homes no matter where that may be? They made their way there, likely knowing the potential outcome, but did it anyways. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.1.13    2 weeks ago

Only Arkie has never challenged me, or you . . . . .

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  dennis smith @3.1.14    2 weeks ago

I'm not the subject of the seed dennis.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.1.18  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.16    2 weeks ago

Uh huh, right. If you say so.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.1.18    2 weeks ago

Thanks, I know!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

Yesterday on the CNN show Reliable Sources the topic was discussed of why was immigration brought up so much at Biden's press conference and other topics not brought up at all. 

The media are allowing the conservatives and Republicans to dictate the media agenda.  Every question was that this is a 'crisis' that should be what Americans think about all the time. 

The truth is this issue is a continuation of what has been happening, on and off, at the border for 20 years. It's not any more of a crisis than it was any of the other times a lot of people from southern countries wanted to seek asylum in the United States.

Right wing media will NEVER be honest about this. 

 
 
 
Ender
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4.1  Ender  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 weeks ago
what has been happening, on and off, at the border for 20 years

I would say for the last century.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Ender @4.1    2 weeks ago

Prior to 1912 when NM gained statehood and 1910 for AZ, there was no issue. 

People crossed the border in both directions at will.

After WWI immigration issues began to be codified to specifically limit immigration from unacceptable countries

of southern and eastern Europe.

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The immigration Act of 1924 made the quotas system stricter and permanent.

White prejudice against white ethnic groups continued until 1965 when the US dropped ethnic quotas

in favor of a more neutral appearing policy.

Mounted watchmen of the U.S. Immigration Service patrolled the border in an effort to prevent illegal crossings as early as 1904, but their efforts were irregular and undertaken only when resources permitted. The inspectors, usually called Mounted Guards, operated out of El Paso, Texas. Though they never totaled more than seventy-five, they patrolled as far west as California trying to restrict the flow of illegal Chinese immigration.

As in every government function, the focus of controlling the southern border revolves around taxation.

Head taxes and tariffs and taxes of commodities coming and going across the southern border

CBP processed 2.7 trillion in material for 80 billion in revenue in 2019.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

Thanks for the facts as usual, SP!

"THE REPUBS WILL NEVER BE HONEST ABOUT THIS"

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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4.2  seeder  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 weeks ago

1986 - 36 years ago - the Dems started this "issue" when they lied big time and did not produce the "promises" they made to President Reagan of penalizing employers for hiring Illegal Aliens and strengthening the enforcement, through not producing budget increases and manning, and not requiring the use of the "E" (employer verification of employment to the IRS).

They got what they wanted then, the amnesty of 2.9M Illegal Aliens and they want the same thing now - the amnesty of over 30M Illegal Aliens.

The Dems will NEVER be honest about this.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  1stwarrior @4.2    2 weeks ago

Who were those 'employers' you're referring to?  Plus, Prove it!  [deleted]

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.3  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 weeks ago

CNN is as left wing as it gets. Maybe they should look at which reporters are asking the damn questions- the Biden administration doesn't call on those from the right.

The left wing media are allowing? Right....Another denial of reality of what is going on at the border.

The truth is the Democrats got exactly what they were trying for; a large illegal immigration problem at the border- but now there is no Trump in office. They are being left holding the bag; and the "But Trruuummmmppppp!!!!!' BS is only being believe by severe TDS sufferers.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @4.3    2 weeks ago

You forgot 'leftist brown shirts'

 
 
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