Derek Chauvin Trial Devastating To Witnesses And A Juror

  

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By:  john-russell  •  2 weeks ago  •  68 comments

Derek Chauvin Trial Devastating To Witnesses And A Juror


Powerful testimony and footage from Chauvin murder trial. 

Witnesses are breaking down in tears, repeatedly. One of the jurors has told the judge she was physically overcome by stress after yesterday's testimony. 

They just played footage of Floyd being put into the squad where he continuously bleats out that he has claustrophobia . There has been the allegation in the past that Floyd fought with the cops. That did not happen. He was handcuffed behind his back. For what appears to be little cause they place Floyd on the pavement and kneel on him. 

Watching all this, one has to assume, that with the "whole world" watching this devastating evidence, if Chauvin is acquitted there will be more "rioting" . Why wouldn't there be ? 


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

I wouldnt be too surprised, given the video footage, if there are protests on the street during the trial. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

This unnecessary violence to any person of color is quite devastating.  Happens every day.  Justice needs to be done here.  

Think of all these families that have gone through this every day - someone they love - their family - their friend - their loved one - dying for no reason and so viciously and hatefully...every day of their lives  

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @2    2 weeks ago

This was unnecessary violence to any person regardless if color. I agree that justice needs to be done.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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2.1.1  r.t..b...  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2.1    2 weeks ago

Agreed.

And it must be held in context...no prior acts, from neither the officer nor the perpetrator need be considered as a determining factor. Neither should any potential results of their deliberations influence their vote. 

Let the evidence speak for itself. 

(not hopeful of the outcome nor the fallout)

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  r.t..b... @2.1.1    2 weeks ago
"Agreed."

Thanks!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2.1    2 weeks ago

"This was unnecessary violence to any person regardless if color. I agree that justice needs to be done."

Yet this isn't happening on a daily basis to white folks.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.1.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.3    2 weeks ago

I never said otherwise.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2.1.4    2 weeks ago
"to any person regardless if color"

Yes, you did.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.1.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.5    2 weeks ago

Then you mistook my meaning.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2.1.6    2 weeks ago

No

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2.1.4    2 weeks ago

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Duck Hawk
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2.1.9  Duck Hawk  replied to  r.t..b... @2.1.1    2 weeks ago
no prior acts, from neither the officer nor the perpetrator need be considered as a determining factor.

These two men had prior work relationship (working at a club, 1 as bouncer, the other as off-duty security) that was aggressive on Chauvin's part. That needs to be admitted as evidence.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.10  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.8    2 weeks ago

SJW with zero clue

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @2.1.10    2 weeks ago

Clueless?  You must be looking in the mirror.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3  Ronin2    2 weeks ago
Watching all this, one has to assume, that with the "whole world" watching this devastating evidence, if Chauvin is acquitted there will be more "rioting" . Why wouldn't there be ? 

If Chauvin doesn't get a harsh enough charge for those on the extreme left there will be rioting. If Chauvin gets charged and the rest are let off, there will be rioting. [deleted]

[The deleted] don't need any damn excuses for rioting.  [(labeling)]

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @3    2 weeks ago

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bugsy
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3.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @3.1    2 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
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4  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

I've been watching the coverage on MSNBC.

The trial with the pre-determined ending. We need to put it on all networks/s

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    2 weeks ago

It is extremely difficult to see what Floyd did that made the cops think they should kneel on his neck for 9 minutes. Good luck with that "I was distracted defense" that Chauvin's lawyer is using. Talk about desperation. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 weeks ago
It is extremely difficult to see what Floyd did that made the cops think they should kneel on his neck for 9 minutes.

There was no excuse for the 9 minutes, despite the practice being part of Minneapolis Police policy at the time.


Good luck with that "I was distracted defense" that Chauvin's lawyer is using. 

Lol, thus MSNBC has described it. Floyd resisted arrest, correct?. The film we saw for the first time yesterday showed that they actually had Floyd in the police car. I never saw that film before. My real interest at this point, is finding out what Floyd did while in the car that caused those cops to get him back out and down on the ground.

As to the trial, I think Chauvin is clearly guilty of manslaughter, but I am convinced he will be found guilty on the more serious murder charge, which is what they are charging him with.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

One more note:

"A key witness who was with   George Floyd   on the day he died has informed the court that he will invoke the Fifth Amendment if asked to testify in Derek Chauvin's murder trial.

The Hennepin County Public Defender's Office filed a notice Wednesday on behalf of Morries Lester Hall, 42, who was in the car with Floyd when police approached him for allegedly using a fake $20 bill at Cup Foods in Minneapolis. 

"Mr. Morries Lester Hall, through undersigned counsel, hereby provides notice to all parties in this matter that if called to testify he will invoke his Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination,"  said a notice filed  by assistant public defender Adrienne Cousins. "Therefore, counsel for Mr. Hall respectfully moves this court to quash the subpoena ... and release Mr. Hall from any obligations therein."



How many people knew that Floyd had a friend in his car with him?

"Many judges would be miffed about a witness who is actively engaging in public interviews about what he saw while refusing to do so under oath. However, Hall clearly has a constitutional right to refuse to testify." ...Jonathan Turley

I'm not so "miffed."

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

It was murder.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    2 weeks ago

Who gives a fuck what Jonathan Turley has to say?

Or Fox 'news' for that matter?

What difference does it make?  Whether there was a friend in the car with him or not?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.3    2 weeks ago
It was murder.

Of course, why else would Keith Ellison make that the charge?/s

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.5    2 weeks ago

Always blaming the victim.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.7  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    2 weeks ago

What does the person in the car with Floyd have to do with what Chauvin did? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.7    2 weeks ago

"What does the person in the car with Floyd have to do with what Chauvin did?"

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.9  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.7    2 weeks ago

It opens a few doors for the defense. If the person in the car was a drug dealer (which he was) it could give some background as to why police were called in the first place. Remember the clerk who took the fake $20?  He said he thought Floyd was on something. My point is that his testimony would only be desirable to the defense.

What Chauvin did relates to what went on in the back of the squad car. I think we can agree that it was beyond what was necessary.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.8    2 weeks ago

Did you want to have a trial?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.7    2 weeks ago
He's really trolling your article big time.  You should do something about that.  
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.12  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.9    2 weeks ago

The murder of George Floyd does not stem from him being placed on the ground with his his hands cuffed behind his back. The murder stems from what happened after that. 

Someone on pavement with his hands cuffed behind his back is not capable of much resisting, particularly when there are three or four cops within 10 ft of him. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.13  author  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.12    2 weeks ago

I am aware that multiple people have been trolling this article. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.14  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.12    2 weeks ago
The murder of George Floyd

Murder requires intent. You know that right?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.13    2 weeks ago

If you're referring to me, then I won't grace your articles any longer.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.16  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.13    2 weeks ago
I am aware that multiple people have been trolling this article. 

It is being covered on MSNBC. You happen to have an article on it. I'll be glad to leave it.

It's interesting what people call trolling. A discussion is trolling. Smearing people 24/7 is not. Got it.  Good by John.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.17  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.15    2 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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4.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.14    2 weeks ago

I'd say kneeling on someone's neck for almost 10 minutes would be intent.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Right now we are finding out why Morries Hall has invoked the 5th.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    2 weeks ago

Why?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1    2 weeks ago
Why?

One reason was that Hall was providing drugs to Floyd and his addicted "girlfriend."  (Floyd had her listed on his phone as "Momma.")

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

So fucking what?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.2    2 weeks ago

I think it's fascinating.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
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5.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.4    2 weeks ago

We got it Tess. So is it murder or manslaughter?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.3    2 weeks ago

What's 'fascinating' about it?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.5    2 weeks ago

YOU APPARENTLY DON'T GET IT!

IT WAS MURDER

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.6    2 weeks ago

We are getting to see the daily lives of these individuals. It's only been in recent days that I learned that Floyd has somebody with him in his car and that person was a drug dealer. We also learned today that Floyd's "girlfriend" knew he was spending the night with another woman the night before he died.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.9  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.7    2 weeks ago

You mean Derek Chauvin fully intended to kill George Floyd in broad daylight in front of all those people?

I see.

I think you'll get the murder conviction rather than the appropriate manslaughter conviction anyway.

Enjoy.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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5.1.10  Thrawn 31  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.9    2 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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5.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.8    2 weeks ago

"We are getting to see the daily lives of these individuals. It's only been in recent days that I learned that Floyd has somebody with him in his car and that person was a drug dealer. We also learned today that Floyd's "girlfriend" knew he was spending the night with another woman the night before he died."

AGAIN, SO FUCKING WHAT?

Where did you 'learn' that?  From Fox 'news'?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.12  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.11    2 weeks ago
Where did you 'learn' that? 

From MSNBC

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.13  bugsy  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5.1.10    2 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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6  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
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7  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Can you imagine watching MSNBC all morning?  Not bad if you can ignore the analysis. I think the trial is moving right along as expected. I'll give an A to the prosecution. It may be the state's finest.

More analysis: The claim that Floyd's girlfriend may have connected with the jury. What's really connecting with that jury is the thought of Minneapolis going up in flames if they don't vote guilty of "murder" in 2nd or 3rd degree!

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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7.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    2 weeks ago

Or the fact that the asshole with the badge knelt on the guys neck until he died, for no apparent reason, and it was witnessed by numerous people and the whole thing is on video. 

I doubt too many are going to vote either way out of a fear of rioting.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Thrawn 31 @7.1    2 weeks ago
I doubt too many are going to vote either way out of a fear of rioting.

The judge, the prosecutor, the defense and ya, the jury all are thinking about the impending threat of rioting. The verdict is guilty of murder, whether or not it applies. You heard it here first.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.1    2 weeks ago

Ya that pig murdered George Floyd in cold blood.

You heard it here first!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.2    2 weeks ago

Well, that settles it. Let's save the time and money on this trial.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.1    2 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
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7.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.4    2 weeks ago

I'll have to remember that!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.3    2 weeks ago

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bugsy
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7.1.7  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.4    2 weeks ago

Who cares what the fake black dude says?

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.1.8  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.6    2 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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7.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @7.1.8    2 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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7.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @7.1.7    2 weeks ago

Who cares what someone who is always blowing dog whistles has to say?

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.1.11  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.10    2 weeks ago

Woof woof...tweet   tweet 

Now, what did I whistle?

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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7.1.12  r.t..b...  replied to  bugsy @7.1.11    2 weeks ago

‘I wish I was in Dixie...’

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.1.13  bugsy  replied to  r.t..b... @7.1.12    2 weeks ago
I wish I was in Dixie..

well, being that i already am...

no wishing necessary.

what"s your point?

 
 
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