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Republicans' anti-government chickens have finally come home to roost

  

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Via:  s  •  3 years ago  •  64 comments

Republicans' anti-government chickens have finally come home to roost
The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help. "

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t was a clever comment that the leaders of the conservative movement never took seriously, of course. The Republicans were always big boosters of first responders, cops and the military who are generally the ones who literally say "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." But the anti-government sentiment worked well for the wealthy benefactors who paid these politicians handsomely to keep their taxes low and regulations scarce.

They also used that message to persuade voters that the government was trying to oppress them with everything from creeping communism to affirmative action and women's rights. In other words, everything these people already hated was blamed on Big Government by the very people who ran it. The subtext of much of this was race, of course, as the cynical conservatives managed to convince people that the government was doling out handouts to the "undeserving" (and I think you know who they were talking about) in the form of welfare, while the hard-working Real Americans were paying the freight and getting the shaft.

Over time they were able to demagogue the issue so thoroughly that average Republicans routinely voted against their own interests out of a reflexive hostility to anything the government tried to do (other than wage war, which they loved.) When the financial crisis hit in 2007 and the government was required to intervene or risk the whole economic system going into free fall, it was clear just how successful they had been.

Almost immediately, a rebellion against the government helping "irresponsible" homeowners became the rallying cry of the anti-government right and the Tea Party was born. The GOP knew that government intervention was necessary but they made sure that the banks and the wealthy were taken care of while forcing everything else to be done on the cheap. The result was a very slow recovery and long-term damage to the average American household, which worked out well for them politically and further discredited government in the minds of many Americans.

The Obamacare wars flowed naturally from that, with half the country hysterical at the idea the government was going to choose their doctors and decide who lives or dies. Their fears were stoked by right-wing politicians who suspected that the program might work and restore people's faith in the government to deliver needed benefits. Then where would they be?

There were dozens of conspiracy theories  floating around  from "death panels" to implanted microchips, to a giant government database that was going to house every personal piece of health information on every American. All of this inane resistance was fueled by the right's decades-long anti-government propaganda campaign.

Fast forward to 2020 and the first global pandemic in a hundred years with an incompetent narcissist in charge. Between his ineptitude and self-serving desire to pretend that the crisis didn't exist and the years of mistrust in the government, the U.S. ended up with an epic disaster and half the population refusing to acknowledge it existed. Today, we're facing a situation in which tens of millions of people are refusing vaccines because they believe in daft conspiracy theories or are convinced the government is lying to them even in the face of over 600,000 deaths.

Throughout all this, most Republican officials have either been actively hostile to medical experts and their advice or they have been strangely passive, simply shrugging their shoulders as if this is just a normal part of life and everyone just needs to buck up. They refused to wear masks and social distance, they've egged on protesters and encouraged the right-wing media, which has been feeding snake oil, lies and conspiracy theories to their voters since the pandemic began.

Fox News has been  particularly egregious  in its objectively pro-COVID propaganda. Their headliners Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity have all taken slightly different approaches. Carlson has gone with his patented dark conspiracy-mongering, playing off of the right's new "Deep State" narrative to suggest that the government is forcing people to take vaccines  against their will  and that  the shots are killing people.  Ingraham has been an inveterate pusher of quacks and bogus cures while  blaming it all on immigrants  as usual while Hannity has been  playing both sides , telling people to take the virus seriously in one breath and skepticism in the other. (One suspects this relates to his close relationship with Donald Trump, who similarly twists himself into a pretzel on this subject, wanting credit for the vaccines but being unable to buck the conspiracy addled anti-vax sentiment of his followers.)

Most of the rest of the right-wing media have followed the same trends — at least until this week.

Suddenly, we have been seeing members of Fox News breaking with their stars and making heartfelt PSA's  exhorting people  to get the vaccines, something we've never seen before: Watch the latest video at  foxnews.com . Newsmax CEO, and friend of Trump, Chris Ruddy wrote  a glowing op-ed  complimenting President Biden on his vaccine program. One of the House leaders, Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La, a vaccine holdout, very ostentatiously got vaccinated and  told anyone who'd listen  that they should do it as well. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis actually went out and  urged his constituents  to get vaccinated now that his state is being overrun with COVID. Again.

The question on everyone's mind is, "What happened?"

Obviously, it's tied to the new surge of cases as the highly transmissible Delta variant runs through the population of unvaccinated people who are, according to  a study  by the Kaiser Family Foundation, heavily tilted toward Republicans. As of the end of last month, 86% of Democrats had at least one shot compared to 52% of Republicans.  And it's not getting any better.

Have they seen polling indicating that they are losing ground with their own voters over their lack on engagement? Are they suddenly worried that their base is going to die and leave them short of needed votes? It's hard to say. But I think MSNBC's Chris Hayes was on to something when he suggested that they had thought they could stick with the base and its anti-vax, anti-Big Government attitude about this (continuing to reap the rewards that brings to them politically) and let Joe Biden's administration do the heavy lifting of getting their states vaccinated — at which point they would swoop in and say what a terrible job he did. (This works for them every time a GOP administration leaves the country in shambles and the Democrats have to clean up their mess.)

The problem is that the virus is spreading, restrictions have been lifted and the Republican base is refusing to save itself. The anti-government chickens have finally come home to roost — and they're killing Republicans. 


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Sean Treacy
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1  seeder  Sean Treacy    3 years ago

This topic may require open discussion where both sides of the aisle can post without fear of partisan censorship.

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Hallux
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1.1  Hallux  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    3 years ago
without fear of partisan censorship.

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Texan1211
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1.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @1.1    3 years ago

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Hallux
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1.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.1    3 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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1.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    3 years ago

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JBB
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2  JBB    3 years ago

We must suspend belief in math to buy supply side.

You will not ever increase income by cutting taxes...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2    3 years ago

yeah, the whole article was all about supply side crap.

Good job recognizing that unknown fact.

This is an opinion piece by the author.

Take it for what it is worth---next to nothing.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.1  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    3 years ago

That comment is worthless! Why even bother?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.1.1    3 years ago

I wondered how many people would understand it.

Total thus far:

Zero.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3  devangelical    3 years ago
the Republican base is refusing to save itself. The anti-government chickens have finally come home to roost — and they're killing Republicans. 

gee, that's a bummer...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  devangelical @3    3 years ago
ee, that's a bummer..

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Sean Treacy
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3.1.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1    3 years ago

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Sean Treacy
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4  seeder  Sean Treacy    3 years ago

Sadly, many progressives rejoice and mock the deaths of their fellow Americans who die from Covid, because they think it devolves to their partisan advantage.   No surprise that some progressives on this site  are more than happy to celebrate the deaths of Americans, but the reality is that minorities are  under represented among the vaccinated and overrepresented among the fatalities from covid.  Given their racialist obsession, it seems odd they are so happy covid has killed a disproportionate share of minoritie  and that trend will continue given their lagging vaccination rates.  But if it kills some Republicans, I guess that's a trade they are happy to make,

 
 
 
JBB
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4.1  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    3 years ago

Can you even see Earth from that alternate reality?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @4.1    3 years ago

 even see Earth from that alternate reality

Can you ever put together an argument? 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.1    3 years ago

The seething anger and dripping contempt and condescension coming from some toward the values and beliefs that we share has prevented civil discussion and debate with comity across all of our seeds.  

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1.3  Hallux  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.2    3 years ago

Considering the "seething anger and dripping contempt and condescension" for liberals/democrats within 99% of your seeds, your call for comity is derisively laughable. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.1.4  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Hallux @4.1.3    3 years ago

320 This is how all his seeds can be summarized.

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.2  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @4    3 years ago
but the reality is that minorities are  under represented among the vaccinated and overrepresented among the fatalities from covid. 

The reality of it is that Native Americans/Alaska Natives have the highest vaccination rate followed by Asians than Whites and Native Hawaiians/Pacific Islanders than Latinos and Blacks. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.2.1  Hallux  replied to  Kavika @4.2    3 years ago
The reality of it is that Native Americans/Alaska Natives have the highest vaccination rate

This comes as no surprise when we consider the amount of vermin eurotrash introduced to both North and South America with our 'advanced civilization' and set about the 'great taming' of a 'savage nature' ruled by 'savages'. Survival has become their driving force.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2.2  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @4.2    3 years ago
is that Native Americans/Alaska Natives have the highest vaccination rate followed by Asians than Whites and Native Hawaiians/Pacific Islanders than Latinos and Blacks. 

Funny how rates of vaccination among minority groups suddenly became on topic in the other post. Crazy how that happens. 

Okay. The point is that alot  non white Republicans aren't vaccinated and have disproportionally high fatality rates. Why some here root for deaths thinking it will help them politically says alot of the left these days. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.2.3  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.2    3 years ago

Don't know about other posts and don't much care. Just pointing out the actual breakdown by race. 

Okay. The point is that alot  non white Republicans aren't vaccinated and have disproportionally high fatality rates. Why some here root for deaths thinking it will help them politically says alot of the left these days. 

A lot of non white republicans aren't vaccinated, what would that number be, I hadn't heard that. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.3  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    3 years ago

Sad but true.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5  Texan1211    3 years ago

Interestingly, despite the opinion of the author, whites are vaccinated in higher percentages than blacks or Hispanics.

Seems odd given that those two groups are pretty solidly Democrats and the Democratic Party is dependent on them to win elections but they lag behind on vaccinations.

Progressive liberals cheerleading for Republicans to die if not vaccinated should best watch out for their own base.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @5    3 years ago

Yep.

Here's the link to the data .

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @5    3 years ago
rogressive liberals cheerleading for Republicans to die if

It's really sad to see the amount of hate so many progressives have for their fellow Americans. 

It's chilling. I can't imagine rooting for Americans to die for partisan gain. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2    3 years ago

Just a little more of that well-publicized "tolerance" lies that progressive liberals try to snow people with.

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2    3 years ago
really sad to see the amount of hate so many progressives have for their fellow Americans

some of us no longer consider some of those people americans. that's a familiar concept to the right.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @5.2.2    3 years ago
some of us no longer consider some of those people americans.

Well, everyone has an opinion.

Not everyone gives a shit what others think about them.

 
 
 
Duck Hawk
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5.2.4  Duck Hawk  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2    3 years ago

No one is celebrating seeing other Americans die no matter what their political leanings. We just wish all the irresponsible people on the Right would get their shit together and "promote the general welfare" of this nation. GET THE SHOTS, protect yourselves, your families and our communities.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  Duck Hawk @5.2.4    3 years ago
No one is celebrating seeing other Americans die no matter what their political leanings

Untrue.

gee, most of the delta variant victims are the unvaccinated, what a bummer. this is the type of republican voter suppression I can support.

And

I love what you just said.  I may get a tee shirt made that says CV IS THE GREATEST REPUBLICAN VOTER SUPRESSION EVER!

Both comments appeared in the other seeded article that is the same.

We just wish all the irresponsible people on the Right would get their shit together and "promote the general welfare" of this nation. GET THE SHOTS, protect yourselves, your families and our communities

What about all the irresponsible people on the left?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.2.6  XXJefferson51  replied to  Duck Hawk @5.2.4    3 years ago

Why is your post only directed at the right.  Wanna talk to your African American and Hispanic American peers who have lower vaccination rates than we do with the same degree of condescending arrogance projected above in our direction?  

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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5.2.7  Bob Nelson  replied to  Duck Hawk @5.2.4    3 years ago
No one is celebrating seeing other Americans die no matter what their political leanings.

You know that. I know that. Even Sean knows that.

Sean rarely quotes. He "reformulates". His reformulations bear little or no ressemblance to anything real. [Deleted]

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2.8  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Duck Hawk @5.2.4    3 years ago
ating seeing other Americans die no matter what their political lea

 Did you read the responses above you? Or the other post?

What a bizarre claim. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.9  Texan1211  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.2.7    3 years ago

I just proved that to be false.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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5.2.10  Bob Nelson  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.9    3 years ago

Oh... Did I say "Sean"?

Sorry...

I meant "Tex"... 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.11  Texan1211  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.2.10    3 years ago

Oh..do you understand that this is an open forum?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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5.2.12  Bob Nelson  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.11    3 years ago

Certainly. TPTB don't mind that lots of members lie all the time. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.13  Texan1211  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.2.12    3 years ago

When you parrot a claim that has already been debunked, it gives the appearance of ignoring reality.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2.14  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.2.7    3 years ago
e "reformulates".

You've already been proven wrong by Tex.  

We've seen this show before. Your repugnant/easily falsifiable claim gets  proven wrong and you resort to personal attacks because your falsehoods were exposed. . 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.14    3 years ago
You've already been proven wrong by Tex.  

Must not be any shame in parroting false claims.

Even after you learn they are false.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.15    3 years ago

The bla bla bla is strong in some here. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.17  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.16    3 years ago
The bla bla bla

Bla bla bla might be more fitting than "parroting false claims".

Thanks!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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5.2.18  Bob Nelson  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.13    3 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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5.3  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @5    3 years ago

Maybe they realize that that base of theirs is soon to become part of ours so they just don’t care anymore?  

 
 
 
Duck Hawk
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6  Duck Hawk    3 years ago

You folks on the right seem to place an inordinate amount of pride in the US Constitution. Why don't you feel the need to follow its precepts? Do you remember in the Preamble it states why this document is important to the US? "To promote the general welfare," is what the vaccinations and mask mandates are for. Contrary to what Tucker and Fox News have to say there are no microchips in it nor is the gov't going to force sterilizations on people.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.1  Texan1211  replied to  Duck Hawk @6    3 years ago
You folks on the right seem to place an inordinate amount of pride in the US Constitution. Why don't you feel the need to follow its precepts? Do you remember in the Preamble it states why this document is important to the US? "To promote the general welfare," is what the vaccinations and mask mandates are for. Contrary to what Tucker and Fox News have to say there are no microchips in it nor is the gov't going to force sterilizations on people.

How does that explain that the two of the largest subgroups of Democrats lag behind on vaccinations?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1    3 years ago

Notice how the left here totally ignores all references to those demographics being slow to vaccinate.  

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.2  bugsy  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.1    3 years ago

Here in the city I live in, 44 percent of whites have been vaccinated, 23 percent of blacks. Whites could do better, and so could blacks, obviously, but these numbers are correct especially since I see far more blacks wearing masks than whites.

Bottom line, it's not only whitey Trump supporters that are spreading the disease, much like the left wants you to believe.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7  Bob Nelson    3 years ago

Since the start of the pandemic, the Republicans Fascists have not taken it seriously. Remember Trump asking on camera if it might be a good idea to inject bleach?

"It'll just go away." "It'll be over by April."

Now all that disregard for the deadly danger is coming home. TrumpTrueBelievers are dying because they listened to Fox. This should be news. It should especially be reported by those who have spent the past year telling their audiences to not take Covid seriously.

Sure...... 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1  Texan1211  replied to  Bob Nelson @7    3 years ago

Why are True Biden Believers dying then?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7.1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1    3 years ago

They must be secretly TrumpTrueBelievers... 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Bob Nelson @7.1.1    3 years ago

Secret conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen.

This one may be extra-special, though.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7.1.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.2    3 years ago

I prefer public conspiracy theories... 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Bob Nelson @7.1.3    3 years ago

Sure you do.

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.2  bugsy  replied to  Bob Nelson @7    3 years ago
Since the start of the pandemic, the Republicans Fascists have not taken it seriously. Remember Trump asking on camera if it might be a good idea to inject bleach?

Do you have any proof that Trump supporters are facists, or are you just blowing shit out your mouth again?

Also, show us where Trump said to inject bleach.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
7.2.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  bugsy @7.2    3 years ago
Do you have any proof that Trump supporters are facists....? 

I'm stating the obvious. The definition of "fascist" is "authoritarian and xenophobe". Trump fits that description, so Trump is a fascist. Followers of a fascist are themselves fascists.

Therefore, "Trump supporters are fascists".

Are you a Trump supporter?

Are you authoritarian?

Are you xenophobe?

Are you a fascist? 

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
7.2.2  bugsy  replied to  Bob Nelson @7.2.1    3 years ago

So you have no proof, just blowing shit and letting your feelings drive your thought process.

Not surprised.

Now, how about that proof Trump told people to inject bleach

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7.2.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  bugsy @7.2.2    3 years ago

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
8  Texan1211    3 years ago

Right. Millions of black and Hispanics are all secretly Trump supporters.

Makes as much sense as other crackpot theories.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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8.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @8    3 years ago
Millions of black and Hispanics are all secretly Trump supporters.

NT is really a window into some serious cognitive dissonance on the left.  

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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9  Ed-NavDoc    3 years ago

"I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."

Undoubtedly be one of the biggest oxymorons ever written in the history of humanity!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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9.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @9    3 years ago

Yeah! 

Let's let Big Business do whatever it wishes! I'm sure wwe can have confidence that they will ensure the safety of their products. They have always done so in the past....

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JBB
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9.2  JBB  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @9    3 years ago

Unless you are in Florida after a hurricane or Texas after a flood or Oklahoma after a tornado. In those cases the gop wants government help...yesterday!

 
 

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