Majority says Biden is out of it, aides are doing his job

  

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Majority says Biden is out of it, aides are doing his job
Preelection concerns that President Joe Biden wasn't physically or mentally up for his new job at age 78, the oldest-ever chief executive, are now settling in as the public sees him slow-walking, refusing to consider questions at press conferences, and seemingly befuddled with the crisis in Afghanistan.

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Read full articlePaul Bedard August 20, 2021, 11:07 AM·2 min read Majority says Biden is out of it, aides are doing his job

Preelection concerns that President Joe Biden wasn't physically or mentally up for his new job at age 78, the oldest-ever chief executive, are now settling in as the public sees him slow-walking, refusing to consider questions at press conferences, and seemingly befuddled with the crisis in Afghanistan.

Not only has his average approval rating fallen below 50%, the lowest of his presidency, but a new survey has found that in addition to likely voters believing that Biden is not all there, they believe that aides are doing his job.

In the survey, Rasmussen Reports said 52% of respondents said they are not confident that Biden is physically or mentally "up to the job of being president of the United States." And 41% of respondents said they are "not confident at all."

Another 46% said they are confident in Biden.

Women, men, white people, Republicans, and middle-aged to elderly voters lack confidence in Biden, according to the survey.

The survey outlet also asked, "Is Joe Biden really doing the job of president, or are others making the decisions for him behind the scenes?"

Again, a slight majority, 51%, said others are doing his work, while 39% said Biden is in charge, down from 47% in March.

Those numbers are worse than the findings from a similar SurveyMonkey poll just one month into his presidency when 33% said he isn't mentally sharp enough for the job.

The polling shift from a third to a majority having questions about Biden parallel other findings that the public does not expect Biden to finish out his term and expect Vice President Kamala Harris to fill in.

The Rasmussen survey also follows a troubled period for Biden. He has failed to push through his high-spending infrastructure bills, has seen election reform stall, is grappling with the largest illegal immigration crisis in U.S. history, and appears unconcerned about spiking inflation.


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Moose Knuckle
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1  seeder  Moose Knuckle    4 weeks ago

The show appears to be over folks.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2  Greg Jones    4 weeks ago

Sitting in his Delaware basement, eating ice cream in the dark....

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3  Sparty On    4 weeks ago

I see my dad in him almost every time he talks.  

My father is in a dementia ward right now.  

The similarities are striking unfortunately

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago

I think we saw this same article or a very similar one a couple days ago. 

Rasmussen is not a reliable poll source. It has been right wing -centric for years. 

seemingly befuddled with the crisis in Afghanistan.

To me, if anything Biden seems almost too sure of himself. He doesnt seem befuddled , he seems like someone who is wondering why everyone doesnt agree with him. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @4    4 weeks ago

A sure sign of senility.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1    4 weeks ago

no it isn't.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.2  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4    4 weeks ago
To me, if anything Biden seems almost too sure of himself. He doesnt seem befuddled , he seems like someone who is wondering why everyone doesnt agree with him. 

Because he is a mighty mental midget. His policies lead directly to disasters that will take years to recover from. He likes to think he is smart; gets proven wrong repeatedly; and is too stupid and arrogant to learn. 

If only he had aides that were smart enough to do the job; but they were hand picked by Biden. Enough said.

The only thing I want to hear Biden say is, "What do you mean I am impeached!"

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.3  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @4    4 weeks ago

Rasmussen is one of the most reliable of all the polling organizations.  

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.3.1  Hallux  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.3    4 weeks ago

Only a few weeks before an election. FOX polls are far more reliable.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.3.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.3    3 weeks ago
Rasmussen is one of the most reliable of all the polling organizations.

Even if it were, which it's not, who the fuck cares about random people opinions which are not based on any actual knowledge of what's happening in the white house? Why should I care that a bunch of bitter conservatives 'believe' is happening?

"Not only has his average approval rating fallen below 50%, the lowest of his presidency,"

This was a rather funny statement since they avoid mentioning that even at just below 50% it's still a better approval rating than his predecessor ever enjoyed.

 
 
 
JBB
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5  JBB    4 weeks ago

I just saw Biden on TV. He seemed totally in control.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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5.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JBB @5    4 weeks ago

Person … Woman … Man … Camera …TV.  

I bet Biden could do even better.

 
 
 
Kathleen
Professor Principal
5.2  Kathleen  replied to  JBB @5    4 weeks ago

LOL!

You call pulling out the military before evacuating people over there “being in control?” jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.1  Ender  replied to  Kathleen @5.2    4 weeks ago

You know for a fact every single military person was out of there...

 
 
 
Kathleen
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5.2.2  Kathleen  replied to  Ender @5.2.1    4 weeks ago

I know for a fact that Biden executed this badly.... don’t you think? This may cause many people to lose their lives. Looks like we have to wait and see how he tries to fix this disaster. 

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.3  Ender  replied to  Kathleen @5.2.2    4 weeks ago

I know it would be a disaster no matter who was in charge.

There is no fixing it, there is only getting out.

 
 
 
Kathleen
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5.2.4  Kathleen  replied to  Ender @5.2.3    4 weeks ago

No. Biden screwed this up.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.5  Ender  replied to  Kathleen @5.2.4    4 weeks ago

Keep the glasses on if you want, we all know if donald was in charge, everyone would be saying the same things, only in reverse.

No pullout from there would ever go well.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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5.2.6  Ronin2  replied to  Ender @5.2.5    4 weeks ago

Bullshit. There is a right way and a wrong way of doing it. The only way that Biden could have fucked this up more is by handing out the names and last know locations of every last US citizen and Afghan supporter.

Seems that some leftists will never admit they elected the most arrogant incompetent POS ever to the Oval Office. Don't even bother with the "But Trruuuummmmppppp!!!!!" BS. Biden has won that roll in seven short months. 

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.7  Ender  replied to  Ronin2 @5.2.6    4 weeks ago

There is a right way and a wrong way...

So you have experience with this? These different ways of evacuating from a war zone...

Could you explain these different ways to the rest of us...

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.8  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.2.7    3 weeks ago

Step one:   Leave no man behind

Step two:   Take what ever actions necessary to assure step one is accomplished.   E.g. don't prematurely remove your only means to accomplish step one.

Step three:   See step one

 
 
 
Kathleen
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5.2.9  Kathleen  replied to  Ender @5.2.5    3 weeks ago

Who is wearing the glasses now?

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.10  Ender  replied to  Kathleen @5.2.9    3 weeks ago

Not me. I am not blindly placing blame...

I am not faux nice...

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.11  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.8    3 weeks ago

Step one. Set a date.

Step two . Leave.

Step three. Have to save all the idiots that waited until the last minute to leave.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.12  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.8    3 weeks ago

Oh, I forgot step four. Sit at home at a computer acting like you could have done it smoothly...

 
 
 
Gazoo
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5.2.13  Gazoo  replied to  Ender @5.2.12    3 weeks ago

Simple logic says you get civilians, embassy staff and contractors out first. The last to leave should be the people that are trained and armed to defend themselves, the military. Dipshit did the opposite.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.14  Ender  replied to  Gazoo @5.2.13    3 weeks ago

So you know for a fact all of our troops were out of there?

I don't. I never see any mention that our troops were fully withdrawn.

And again, they have known for months this was going to happen.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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5.2.15  Gazoo  replied to  Ender @5.2.14    3 weeks ago

No, they aren’t all out of there, but enough were shipped out to allow the taliban to run rough shod over the country. 

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.16  Ender  replied to  Gazoo @5.2.15    3 weeks ago

You actually think that in any realm of possibility, they would not? 

As far as most are concerned, we are out of there.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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5.2.17  Gazoo  replied to  Ender @5.2.16    3 weeks ago

Do you see what’s going on over there? Apparently not because no one in their right mind would defend the dumbass who created this mess.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.19  Ender  replied to  Gazoo @5.2.17    3 weeks ago

Perhaps others should take of the blinders.

What part of everyone knowing months in advance we were leaving yet people decided to stay there up until the last minute, do you all seem to not understand.

I would have booked a flight out at least a month ago.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.20  Ender  replied to  Gazoo @5.2.17    3 weeks ago

And I guarantee you, even when we are out of there, there will be someone that said they were scared and stayed behind and are now in trouble.

And people will just use it as a political football, which will only prove to me they never really cared about the people anyway.

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.2.21  GregTx  replied to  Ender @5.2.20    3 weeks ago

Bidens administration obviously didn't.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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5.2.22  Gazoo  replied to  Ender @5.2.19    3 weeks ago

Non-military personnel should have been given a hard date to exit. It should have been mandatory, not up to them. That is biden’s fault. He screwed the pooch big time on this one.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.23  Ender  replied to  Gazoo @5.2.22    3 weeks ago

As far as I know, they can't force people.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.24  Ender  replied to  GregTx @5.2.21    3 weeks ago

I will give you that. That was a stupid thing to say.

Makes me think if us laymen can figure it out, they knew.

I still don't think it would have changed anything though.

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.2.25  GregTx  replied to  Ender @5.2.24    3 weeks ago
Makes me think if us laymen can figure it out, they knew.

That's the point of the outrage over the way it was and still is being being treated by this administration.

I still don't think it would have changed anything though.

I don't think auxiliary and contract personnel would have stayed behind intentionally. This was fubar at the management level on up.....

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.26  Ender  replied to  GregTx @5.2.25    3 weeks ago

I can actually understand that. It is the over the top partisan vitriol that gets me.

I think for some reason he is trying to come off as stoic.

I still say even if trump were president, the same things would be happening and all the people would still be saying the same things, just from opposite ends.

I am sure there are some private companies there that don't want to lose their cash cow.

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.2.27  GregTx  replied to  Ender @5.2.26    3 weeks ago
It is the over the top partisan vitriol that gets me.

Yeah same here.

I think for some reason he is trying to come off as stoic.

Stoic? I don't really see that. He comes off as dispassionate for sure and in denial but stoic....not so much.

I still say even if trump were president, the same things would be happening and all the people would still be saying the same things, just from opposite ends.

And if he had been president that's exactly what should have happened. The reason people on both sides of the spectrum are piling on is because it was a colossal fuck up.

I am sure there are some private companies there that don't want to lose their cash cow.

I wouldn't want be the owner of one of those companies if there was any kind of communications from the state department about the possibility of such a rapid change of events and I failed to notify employees. Although you would think if there was such a warning it would have been given long ago right?

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.28  Ender  replied to  GregTx @5.2.27    3 weeks ago
not so much

Well I didn't say he pulled it off.   Haha

I still say, one can plan and try to execute, yet once it all goes to shit it is another story.

The closer it gets to the timeline, the worse the conditions will be.

I would think most companies there would have been warned in some fashion. Hell pullout was already announced.

I really haven't seen or heard anything either way.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.29  Ender  replied to  GregTx @5.2.27    3 weeks ago

I also just wanted to say, I think right now, instead of worrying about any fuckups we should just focus on cleaning up any mess we can and get the hell out of there.

We will deal with the aftermath for a long time to come I am sure.

There will be the endless congressional hearings, committees, etc.

This is going to drag on for years. So my focus is on finishing the objective.

 
 
 
Kathleen
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5.2.30  Kathleen  replied to  Ender @5.2.10    3 weeks ago

Sorry Ender, this was his call. 

On a difference note, I will wait and see how this unfolds. I surely hope that they get all the people out that want to get out of there. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.2.31  Ender  replied to  Kathleen @5.2.30    3 weeks ago

Yes it was his call, and I agree with it.

We are leaving. Good.

Then deal with all the partisan bullshit.

I actually agree with looking at how it all went down. Hell magnify it. Dissect it, learn from it.

Yet in the meantime, can we get what needs to be done...done.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.32  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.2.11    3 weeks ago
Step three. Have to save all the idiots that waited until the last minute to leave.

If that's all you think is going on there ..... well ..... that speaks volumes

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.33  Tessylo  replied to  Kathleen @5.2.2    3 weeks ago

No, you don't know it for a fact.  

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.34  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.32    3 weeks ago

What speaks volumes is only looking for fault...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.35  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @5.2.34    3 weeks ago

Indeed!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.36  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.2.34    3 weeks ago

What speaks volumes is finding fault in one but not another for the same type of behavior.

Many on the left are in massive denial right now in that regard.

Massive.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.37  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.36    3 weeks ago

And many on the right are in glee..

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.38  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.2.37    3 weeks ago
And many on the right are in glee..

I don't know many people in glee over this situation.   Perhaps you run in different circles.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.39  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.38    3 weeks ago

I see it here everyday. The anticipation and excitement some get over being able to bash Biden and the administration.

Funny thing with that, is you end up bashing the boots on the ground indirectly.

 
 
 
Kathleen
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5.2.40  Kathleen  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.38    3 weeks ago

Gee... I wonder where we seen this before.. Can you imagine if the former president made this decision?  Believe me... some of these people have no room to talk. 

 
 
 
Kathleen
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5.2.41  Kathleen  replied to  Ender @5.2.39    3 weeks ago

If Biden does something I like, I will say so.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.2.42  Ender  replied to  Kathleen @5.2.40    3 weeks ago

And what was it I have said time and again that we would be saying these same things in reverse.

Thanks for confirming my point...

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.43  Ender  replied to  Kathleen @5.2.41    3 weeks ago

I am on pins and needles.

Should I go ahead and scratch on my calendar a date in 2024.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.44  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.2.39    3 weeks ago
I see it here everyday.

"Here" is hardly "many" of anything.   This place if anything is left leaning by numbers so how you can square that as "many on the right are in glee" is beyond any reasonable logic..

Your comment is nothing nothing more than a disingenuous exaggeration.

Nothing more.

 
 
 
Kathleen
Professor Principal
5.2.45  Kathleen  replied to  Ender @5.2.43    3 weeks ago

2024? His ratings are not looking very good right now. jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.46  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.44    3 weeks ago

Aww. And I thought you all has that market cornered.

So looking back at all the comments on this thread, let's see which ones are hyperbole...

Ah, it seems all of yours are...

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.2.47  Ender  replied to  Kathleen @5.2.45    3 weeks ago

So you think low ratings means he will be canceled?

Funny you never cared about low ratings with donald.

 
 
 
Kathleen
Professor Principal
5.2.48  Kathleen  replied to  Ender @5.2.42    3 weeks ago

The only point you are trying to make is this is not a big deal. I have always been big on foreign policy, it’s one of the major things I look for in a candidate. Sometimes people don’t realize how important it is. 

 
 
 
Kathleen
Professor Principal
5.2.49  Kathleen  replied to  Ender @5.2.47    3 weeks ago

I don’t know... only time will tell. Trump only had one term, so it’s possible Biden will too.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.50  Ender  replied to  Kathleen @5.2.48    3 weeks ago

I have never once said it wasn't a big deal.

I am just sick of all the arm chair warriors doing nothing but condemning any efforts to get to the end of this whole thing.

The way some are acting you would think they don't want us to leave.

After we are completely out of there you all can do the usual bitch and moan.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.51  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.2.46    3 weeks ago

Nope, not even a nice try.

That shoe does fit you, so you should wear it.

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.52  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.51    3 weeks ago

No need. I can read what people actually type out on a daily basis.

You know one can see your comment history...

 
 
 
Sparty On
PhD Principal
5.2.53  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.2.50    3 weeks ago

Hey, as someone famous once said, elections have consequences.   How true and in this case the consequences are bad for the guy who won the election.   Oopsies!

After nearly five years of incessant , non-stop whining about Trump coming from the left, they have no high ground in this matter.

No high ground at all.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.54  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.2.52    3 weeks ago

Lol .... that deflection makes absolutely no sense in context.  

Of course deflections rarely do.

See 5.2.44, apply, lather, rinse and repeat as required

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.55  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.54    3 weeks ago

If pointing to your comment history is deflection....I am wondering if you know what that means..

But by all means, let's compare people complaining about donald when the right wing have said other people are the enemy...Nothing but four years of division and hatred.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.56  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.2.55    3 weeks ago

Once again please refer 5.2.44 with any questions.

Here are the highlights:

"I" am only one person

"Many" is more than one person.   Reason would dictate many. many more than one person but certainly more than what NT could represent.

As noted, i know of no one full of glee over this, including myself so stop trying to infer that i am.

There, glad i could help ....

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.57  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.56    3 weeks ago

So you think this is a microcosm and in no way represents any swaths of the country...

 
 
 
Kathleen
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5.2.58  Kathleen  replied to  Ender @5.2.50    3 weeks ago

Spare me.... this is nothing compared to the moaning and bitching you have done for 4 years...

 
 
 
Ender
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5.2.59  Ender  replied to  Kathleen @5.2.58    3 weeks ago

I have done?

So basically you are saying that because I complained about donald that gives carte blanche to just complain..

 
 
 
Kathleen
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5.2.60  Kathleen  replied to  Ender @5.2.59    3 weeks ago

My reason is because I just found out yesterday that my old neighbors and we are dear friends, have family over there and I was worried. I am waiting word. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.61  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.2.57    3 weeks ago

My comments have been clear and concise on what i meant.  

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Ender
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5.2.62  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.61    3 weeks ago

Nope. I didn't 'edit' anything.

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Ender
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5.2.66  Ender  replied to    3 weeks ago

Making shit up about people makes one desperate...

Almost comical considering I can see the original replies you make before you change them...

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.68  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.2.66    3 weeks ago

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Sparty On
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5.2.70  Sparty On  replied to    3 weeks ago

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Sparty On
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5.2.72  Sparty On  replied to    3 weeks ago

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Ender
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5.2.73  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.72    3 weeks ago

Again, I didn't change anything. [deleted]

Yet you were actually caught changing what you wrote to me and are going to deny it.

Typical. Accuse others of what you have done yourself...

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.74  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.2.73    3 weeks ago

Once again, wrong all accounts and i'm still waiting for you to produce.

Put up or shut up

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.75  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @5.2.73    3 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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6  Tessylo    4 weeks ago

The majority of trumpturdians agree

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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7  Thrawn 31    4 weeks ago

At least this DQs Trumps retarded ass as well, he is like a cunt hair younger. Glad to see folks finally acknowledging that at a certain point people are too fucking old be in certain positions… SCOTUS, I am looking at you. Congress, you’re next.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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8  Split Personality    4 weeks ago

Think of it like this.  Jumping out of a perfectly good airframe is an insane thing to do to win a war or get your kicks.

( it is a hoot after the first time you survive )

Joe Biden committed, he jumped and there is no going back.

Unbeknownst to the moronic American press and many anti Biden people,

special ops has been retrieving people from embassy, business and hotel roof tops for a week 

with no press coverage.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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8.1  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @8    4 weeks ago

Mr. Dowd was quoted here somewhere because he went from being a Democrat prior to 1999

Then a Republican in the Bush Administration until 2007

now an Independent since 2008 as if this nullifies his political observations.

As I said on this morning many in the media have not had perspective on Afghanistan.
For example more than 20000 people have been evacuated from there without a single loss of an American life.
At same time 5000 Americans have died from Covid and 500 have died from guns.
It's all about perspective, context and political bias.

Not that anyone is complaining, but why are diesel prices dropping so much?

The basic answer is that there’s a pretty big jump in domestic oil production combined with a decreased worldwide demand for crude. The price of North Sea Brent crude oil has fallen to roughly $91 per barrel, which is the lowest its been in more than two years and more than 20% lower than its year-to-date high total of $115, which came on June 19. Prior to the most recent decline, average monthly Brent spot prices traded within a $5 per barrel range, from $107 to $112, for 13 consecutive months through July.

While there have been substantial oil supply disruptions in the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), those were offset by increases in U.S. production and lower global demand. And recently, Libyan oil production resumed, which combined with the weakened outlook for global oil demand means diesel prices will remain down for the foreseeable future.

Early in the year, total energy consumption was 3% above consumption for the early part of 2013, but consumption growth has been outpaced by increases in total energy production, which lead to a 17% reduction in net imports compared with the first six months of 2013, according to the EIA.

This afternoon in my off the beaten path in Texas, diesel fuel was a fraction lower than unleaded regular gas at $2.84 per gallon.

Local stations are running out of diesel.  Nobody is patting Biden on the back because he has relatively little control over OPEC

but let the regular gas price rise to $3.85 and you would thinl the world is ending because Joe Biden stutters.

btw I paid $57.00 for 16 gallons of premium. @ $3.60 and I own shares of Shell.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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8.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Split Personality @8    3 weeks ago
Unbeknownst to the moronic American press and many anti Biden people,

special ops has been retrieving people from embassy, business and hotel roof tops for a week 

with no press coverage.

That doesn't make it very much better.  You don't thank the person saving you from the rooftop of your burning house if they're the ones who set it on fire to begin with.

We had control of the streets.  We could have spent months or years in an orderly, safe withdrawal of Americans and allies, allowing people to walk or drive themselves to airports in complete safety.

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
8.2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Jack_TX @8.2    3 weeks ago
That doesn't make it very much better.  You don't thank the person saving you from the rooftop of your burning house if they're the ones who set it on fire to begin with.

Oh good grief Jack...  One would have thought that out of all 345,000 security forces and tens of thousands of government workers, some one could have said to an American, "It's all arranged, a peaceful return to power has all been paid for by the Taliban.

We had control of the streets. 

No "we did Not", Afghan police controlled the streets, poorly.  First order of business everyday, look for someone to shakedown

to get a bribe. At least the Taliban offered receipts for tax purposes.

We could have spent months or years in an orderly, safe withdrawal of Americans and allies, allowing people to walk or drive themselves to airports in complete safety.

Apparently not.  Even with 2,500 combat troops to cover Kabul for three shifts a day = 833 combat troops per shift?

The Taliban had 18 months to accomplish a nearly peaceful takeover.

Hopefully it lasts another week.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Junior Quiet
8.2.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Split Personality @8.2.1    3 weeks ago
No "we did Not", Afghan police controlled the streets, poorly.

We had enough control of them that people could get to the airport without special operations forces to "retrieve" them.

Apparently not. 

Well... we certainly could have.

Hopefully it lasts another week.

I'm not optimistic.  There is less reason every day for the Taliban to behave themselves.

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
8.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  Jack_TX @8.2.2    3 weeks ago

Actually I see it the opposite.  The closer they get the more they stand to gain.

The last thing any one wants to see is another aircraft of evacuees or troops crash like in Vietnam.

Because this time we still have B52s and drones that can easily take down the Presidential palace.

On the last day I hope there is plenty of CAP and a dozen circling AC-130 gunships brought in to discourage

ISISK and the Taliban.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Junior Quiet
8.2.4  Jack_TX  replied to  Split Personality @8.2.3    3 weeks ago

You may be right, and I really, really hope you are.

I'm just concerned the Taliban will be thinking "they're not sending troops back in, no matter what we do", and see it as a chance to get a few parting shots in. 

I fear the following few weeks in Afghanistan will be sort of like a combination of the French Revolution and the Visigoth sack of Rome.  I'm not how that could have been avoided, but it's going to be ugly, nonetheless.

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
8.2.5  Split Personality  replied to  Jack_TX @8.2.4    3 weeks ago

Apparently there were 2 suicide bombers today, after which ISIS gunmen opened up around the Abby gate.

USMC and Taliban fighters were briefly allied in fighting off the terrorists.

Some of the hard core ISIS clowns think the Taliban are too soft and not religious enough.

They are concentrated in force near the Pakistan border reportedly in easy targets.

Hopefully we retaliate with those drones or B52s.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
10  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

After watching Biden’s five hour late public teleprompter reading, it’s clear he isn’t healthy.  He’s not going to serve out this term

 
 
 
Gazoo
Sophomore Silent
10.1  Gazoo  replied to  Sean Treacy @10    3 weeks ago

Hell no, it was clear to many during the campaign he wouldn’t last a full term.

 
 
 
dennis smith
Masters Silent
11  dennis smith    3 weeks ago

When the mainstream media and Dems in Congress blame Biden, only fools will say it is not Biden's fault.

Civilians our 1st, destroy military equipment 2nd, troop removal 3rd. 

Biden reduced troop levels 1st, did not destroy military equipment 2nd, sent back in military troops 3rd. Hopefully he will not withdraw troops again without getting civilians out.

Taliban, ISIS-K, Al Qaeda now have US military weaponry. America is now at the mercy of what they do with the weapons. 

And some still think the buck stops with Biden. He is a stubborn asshole who reached the Peter Principle decades ago. 

 
 
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