Here are all of Biden's progressive campaign promises that got cut from his $1.75 trillion social-spending package

  

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Via:  texan1211  •  one month ago  •  76 comments

By:   insider@insider.com (Juliana Kaplan,Ayelet Sheffey) 57 mins ago (MSN)

Here are all of Biden's progressive campaign promises that got cut from his $1.75 trillion social-spending package
Biden released a social spending plan half the size of the original package. Paid leave and free community college are gone, among others.

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  • President Joe Biden announced a pared-down social spending framework on Thursday.
  • It appears to have been whittled down to win over centrist Sens. Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema.
  • Progressive priorities that Biden ran on like paid leave and free community college are gone.

President Joe Biden unveiled a $1.75 trillion framework for Democrats' social-spending bill on Thursday - nearly half the cost of the initial $3.5 trillion proposal.

It's a far cry from the $6 trillion proposal that Sen. Bernie Sanders was drafting over the summer. And, some key social safety net provisions on which Biden hung his presidential campaign are gone.

"When enacted, this framework will set the United States on course to meet its climate goals, create millions of good-paying jobs, enable more Americans to join and remain in the labor force, and grow our economy from the bottom up and the middle out," the White House said in a press release.

It's unclear, however, whether the framework has the support it needs from Democrats to pass Congressional votes.

As Insider reported, the framework does include $555 billion in investments toward clean energy and the climate, $400 billion for child care and preschool, and $150 billion for housing, among other things. But key higher education priorities, and a climate program Biden campaigned on, were cut largely due to opposition from centrist Democratic holdouts Sens. Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema. While some measures, like Medicare expansions, weren't part of Biden's 2020 campaign, progressives like Sanders have been fighting for them throughout negotiations.

Here are the measures that didn't make the final cut:

  • Tuition-free community college
  • Paid family and medical leave
  • Clean Energy Performance Program (CEPP)
  • Dental, vision Medicare expansion
  • Lower prescription drug prices
  • Five years of extended child tax credit
  • A tax on billionaire income
  • Investments in child nutrition

Biden is set to head to Glasgow next week for the United Nations climate summit, and he made clear he wanted to have a framework to show to world leaders US' efforts in combating climate change.

Still, many Democrats have made clear that until they see the actual text of the bill, they will continue to fight for the inclusion of those progressive priorities. For example, Michigan Rep. Andy Levin told Insider that he's "going to fight right up until the closing whistle" to get free community college in the bill.

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York said in a Wednesday statement that, "until the bill is printed, I will continue working to include paid leave in the Build Back Better plan."

And Sen. Ron Wyden, the chair of the Senate Finance Committee, disputed on Wednesday that a billionaire's tax was off the table, telling Insider: "I'm not saying that it's dead!" However, it looks like Manchin's 15% "patriotic tax" may have made it in instead.

But Biden's announcement of this framework does not mean every Democrat is on board, including Manchin and Sinema. Progressives like Congressional Progressive Caucus Chair Pramila Jayapal are still holding firm that they need to see the bill text before signing off on the framework, and will not vote for an infrastructure bill until the social-spending bill meets their priorities.

The framework indicates the tenuous hold that Democrats have on both chambers of Congress, and the power that centrists have to dictate their agenda - even with Sanders chairing the Senate Budget Committee, and Wyden overseeing Senate Finance.

Biden is set to speak later today, before heading to Rome to attend the G-20 summit (and meet with Pope Francis).

"I've never been a liberal in any way, shape or form," Manchin told reporters in September, adding that if progressives want to "get theirs," they need to "elect more liberals."

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Texan1211
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1  seeder  Texan1211    one month ago

Anyone want to bet that no progressive liberal will complain about Biden's broken promises?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @1    one month ago

And there they are in #2, #3 and #4.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1    one month ago

You find the truth in #2, #3, and #4.

Not so for yours and the other's whose opinions, etc., etc., ain't worth a penny!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1    one month ago
And there they are in #2, #3 and #4.

Of course!!!

Here's the deal.

Democrats control the House, the Senate, and the WH.

Failure to pass their President's signature legislation falls solely on Democrats, no matter what a bunch of yahoos think.

Democrats can't lead while in the majority, and every few years, America has to be reminded of that fact.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.1    one month ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.2    one month ago
Failure to pass their President's signature legislation falls solely on Democrats, no matter what a bunch of yahoos think.

I think many don't have the ability to comprehend that fact.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.5  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.4    one month ago
I think many don't have the ability to comprehend that fact.

Sadly, I know you are right about that.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.3    one month ago

It's laughable that you think you've provided any facts or truth or anything to back up your claims.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    one month ago
It's laughable that you think you've provided any facts or truth or anything to back up your claims.

How did you put it... Oh that's right.  

I don't have to prove DICK. 3.2.3  
 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.7    one month ago

And you never have proven DICK!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.18  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.8    one month ago

I have removed part of this thread for no value and a slap fight of insults. This will stop now or tickets will be given out with points. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @1    one month ago
Anyone want to bet that no progressive liberal will complain about Biden's broken promises?

First of all, do you want them to complain?   Seems to me you should prefer that they not complain about dropping items that you would prefer be dropped.

Second, it is actually good for people to not believe campaign promises.   That shows a level of political maturity that I think is healthy for the nation.   So those progressive liberals who do not complain might be sophisticated enough to look at the big picture and not pretend that a PotUS has the power to hold true to all of his/her campaign promises.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @1.2    one month ago
First of all, do you want them to complain? 

Yes, at least that would show some integrity.

Second, it is actually good for people to not believe campaign promises.   That shows a level of political maturity that I think is healthy for the nation.   So those progressive liberals who do not complain might be sophisticated enough to look at the big picture and not pretend that a PotUS has the power to hold true to all of his/her campaign promises.

Maybe you can sell that to Jayapal?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.2  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.1    one month ago
Yes, at least that would show some integrity.

Did you complain on every campaign promise that Trump failed to deliver?

Maybe you can sell that to Jayapal?

Do you think it is wise to not take campaign promises as truth?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.2    one month ago
Did you complain on every campaign promise that Trump failed to deliver?

No. Was that what we are discussing, my complaints?

Doyouthink it is wise to not take campaign promises as truth?

Yes, but if I voted for someone based on promises, I would expect most of them to be held.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.2.4  Snuffy  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.3    one month ago

Come on man...   campaign promises are just like "The check is in the mail"  and a couple other "promises" that I cannot repeat as I will get a COC ticket for sure...   hehe

I look at campaign promises like the wind...  it makes noise but overall it's mostly meaningless verbage to give a candidate the ability to make outlandish promises that they later on cannot fulfill because of other realities...   it was surprising to me that Trump was able to keep as many as he did. Quite unusual for a presidential candidate.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.5  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.3    one month ago
Yes, but if I voted for someone based on promises, I would expect most of them to be held.

Fair enough.   So if liberals/progressives expect most of their promises to be held , you would expect that there would be some complaining when this does not hold true.

So, in short, the act of complaining or withholding a complaint is not indicative of anything.   There are good reasons why some would complain and good reasons why some would not complain.   It really depends on the issue and whether or not an individual expected something to happen when it did not.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.6  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.5    one month ago

Continue parsing if you must, but without me.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.7  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.6    one month ago

Parsing?   Do you not recognize logical deduction when you see it?   What is the point of you engaging in a forum like this if you are going to dismiss intelligent discourse as parsing?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.8  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.7    one month ago
but without me.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    one month ago

By far Biden's biggest mistake was his belief that he could persuade some Republicans to vote for his plans. He lives back in the world of the 1980's when some senators and congressmen would act less partisan.  I am almost positive that Biden never thought his agenda would depend on the whims of Joe Manchin, a completely corrupt hack, and Krysten Sinema, a narcissistic ambitious, delusional , Arizona politician. 

Biden is not really the man for the job these days , and it probably really is because of his age. These days the top political jobs require fighters, and Biden wants to be a conciliator. He is out of step with the times. 

Now that this economic agenda package is out of the way, we have to hope that the Democrats will turn their attention to beating back the anti-democracy efforts of the right to steal future elections and send the country careening back into a racist good ole white boy past. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one month ago
By far Biden's biggest mistake was his belief that he could persuade some Republicans to vote for his plans

Why are you saying that as if Republicans in the Senate haven't already backed and voted for the real infrastructure bill? You must remember it--the bill Nancy is obstructing from coming to a vote in the House? The bill Biden personally torpedoed with his dumb-fuck comments as soon as it was agreed to? 

I am almost positive that Biden never thought his agenda would depend on the whims of Joe Manchin, a completely corrupt hack, and Krysten Sinema, a narcissistic ambitious, delusional , Arizona politician. 

Man, that sure is a far cry from the gloating some Dems did when Sinema and Manchin assured their majority.

Biden is not really the man for the job these days , and it probably really is because of his age. These days the top political jobs require fighters, and Biden wants to be a conciliator. He is out of step with the times. 

Congrats on recognizing at long last what many of us knew all along.

Now that this economic agenda package is out of the way, we have to hope that the Democrats will turn their attention to beating back the anti-democracy efforts of the right to steal future elections and send the country careening back into a racist good ole white boy past. 

Whoo Boy!! LOL!

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.2  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one month ago
By far Biden's biggest mistake was his belief that he could persuade some Republicans to vote for his plans.

What do you call the bipartisan infrastructure bill? Let me guess, that doesn't count anymore. As for the rest, why should Republicans support any of the far left wish list in the reconciliation bill? They represent their constituents as well; and their constituents are not in favor of it. There has been no give or take with the Republicans on the reconciliation bill; it has been one gigantic fuck you to every conservative and moderate out there.

He lives back in the world of the 1980's when some senators and congressmen would act less partisan.  I am almost positive that Biden never thought his agenda would depend on the whims of Joe Manchin, a completely corrupt hack, and Krysten Sinema, a narcissistic ambitious, delusional , Arizona politician. 

Anyone to the right of Marx or Lenin in other words. So much for Democrats being the big tent party. Either go full on Socialist/Communist or get out. Would love it if Manchin became a Republican. Hell, he should run for president as a Republican. Worked for Trump; and Manchin is far better liked among independents than Trump is. It would tear the legs right out from underneath the Democratic Party. 

Biden is not really the man for the job these days , and it probably really is because of his age. These days the top political jobs require fighters, and Biden wants to be a conciliator. He is out of step with the times. 

Biden can't run any more to the left than he already is. He ran as a moderate; but has caved to the bat shit crazy far left liberals of his party. 

Now that this economic agenda package is out of the way, we have to hope that the Democrats will turn their attention to beating back the anti-democracy efforts of the right to steal future elections and send the country careening back into a racist good ole white boy past. 

Like Democrats don't try to steal elections John? Please. Why does Delaware have the most restrictive voting laws around John? That is definitely a Blue state; and Biden's home turf. Far more restrictive than the Georgia and Texas laws that Democrats are in a huff over.

Of course Democrats are not above outright violating the law; but there is no fraud in elections right John?

As far as your continued "racist rant". I find those that are screaming about racism the loudest need to look in the mirror to find out where the true racist is. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2    one month ago
What do you call the bipartisan infrastructure bill?

Obstructed by Democrats.

Biden can't run any more to the left than he already is. He ran as a moderate; but has caved to the bat shit crazy far left liberals of his party. 

Getting hard to tell who is in charge of the House--Pelosi or the Progressive Caucus.

As far as your continued "racist rant".

Same every damn day.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2    one month ago

The new plan is going to partially subsidize child care for working families. This will positively effect millions and millions of families.  I suppose this is your idea of socialism. To pay for this corporations and the wealthy are going to be required to actually pay taxes.  The horror !

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.2    one month ago
The new plan is going to partially subsidize child care for working families.

Exactly when did Democrats decide that parents can't care for their own kids they chose to have?

How on God's green earth did we ever survive without all the freebies?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.3    one month ago
Exactly when did Democrats decide that parents can't care for their own kids

Back in the day, one income was sufficient for a family in most cases. I recently saw a statistic that there are now 2 1/2 times more families with both mother and father working than there was in 1960. Most of these families need the two incomes to make ends meet .  Child care for the time period when parents are at work is very expensive. It is almost so expensive that it defeats the purpose of having the second parent work. 

One day people will realize that we live in a capitalist society and that requires social spending, because capitalism by its nature keeps some people poor and almost poor. If we want the goodies of capitalism we also have to pay the price of social spending on the lower classes (the losers in the capitalist game).  It is just the way it is.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.5  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.4    one month ago

People shouldn't have kids if they can't support them on their own.

People's priorities have changed, so of course there are more families with both parents working.

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.2.6  Veronica  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.4    one month ago

I love it when people think we should go back to make progress.  And to think that one income can support a family today is ludicrous.  For example, with one income most families could not afford to take a vacation - there goes the entertainment and hospitality sectors.  How many wealthy families go to Disneyworld and go to the beach?  I mean really - do they?  Those types of business rely on the middle & working classes to survive.  Take a 2 income family of $100,000 grand & cut it in two if "mom" stays home.  How much vacation money, movie going, doing out to eat will there be realistically?  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.2    one month ago
The new plan is going to partially subsidize child care for working families.  This will positively effect millions and millions of families.

Anything to keep the people sucking off the government.  It will affect millions of families.  They're called taxpayers.  

I suppose this is your idea of socialism. 

And you don't?  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.8  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Veronica @2.2.6    one month ago

Credit card debt, student loan debt, 40k autos, $1500 cell phones, poor or no planning, and the unwillingness to forego instant gratification is why most can't afford child care.

Why does it become MY responsibility to ensure that people who wanted kids can get subsidies to care for them?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Veronica @2.2.6    one month ago

Yep. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.7    one month ago

Social spending is the price we pay for having capitalism. The real problem is that we allow those who benefit absolutely the most from capitalism, the rich, to use loopholes and dodges to keep from paying the taxes that could pay for the social spending. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.11  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.10    one month ago

If one is truly interested in all paying their fair share, one supports a graduated flat tax without any deductions whatsoever.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.10    one month ago

It's moronic/idiotic to think that a flat tax helps the already wealthy and obscenely wealthy 'pay their fair share'

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.13  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.12    one month ago

One must understand what a graduated flat tax is.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.2.14  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.5    one month ago
People shouldn't have kids if they can't support them on their own.

Says republicans who are opposed to abortions and birth control.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.15  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.14    one month ago

I am a Republican, and I am all for abortion and birth control, and have no qualms at all paying for me and mine.

I do resent being told what others choose to do becomes my responsibility to pay for.

 
 
 
evilgenius
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2.2.16  evilgenius  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.3    one month ago
Exactly when did Democrats decide that parents can't care for their own kids they chose to have?

When Reaganomics fucked the lower middle class. When business decided it was cheaper to move to China than pay American workers a fair living wage. When the Chamber of Commerce became a Washington lobby group. When the US shifted from a manufacturing economy to a service based one. There are a whole lot of finger pointing going, but this was a collective effort by the nation... not just one political party.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.10    one month ago
Social spending is the price we pay for having capitalism.

Keep telling yourself that.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.18  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  evilgenius @2.2.16    one month ago

Reagonomics????

Lmao!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.19  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.17    one month ago

Of course it is.  Otherwise before long you would have revolution on your hands. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.2.20  Sparty On  replied to  evilgenius @2.2.16    one month ago
When Reaganomics fucked the lower middle class. When business decided it was cheaper to move to China than pay American workers a fair living wage. When the Chamber of Commerce became a Washington lobby group. When the US shifted from a manufacturing economy to a service based one. There are a whole lot of finger pointing going, but this was a collective effort by the nation... not just one political party.

There is so much wrong with that comment i'm not sure where to start.

So, do you like your $350 50" flat screen TV?   If yes it will never be made with a "living" US wage.   If it is made here be prepared to pay 4-10 times more for it but then you can be happy people are getting paid a living wage making it.

So you'd have that going for you.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.2.21  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.15    one month ago
I do resent being told what others choose to do becomes my responsibility to pay for.

Then you should leave civilization and become a hermit in some uninhabited corner of this planet.  Because society requires all who are part of it to shoulder the cost.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.22  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.21    one month ago
Then you should leave civilization and become a hermit in some uninhabited corner of this planet.  Because society requires all who are part of it to shoulder the cost.

How fucking asinine.

Society does NOT require all who are a part to shoulder the cost, which is the problem here--forcing others to pay for what some choose to do.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.2.23  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.22    one month ago

Liberal are only happy if someone else is footing the bill.   They're too stupid to realize that sooner or later, it WILL BE them or theirs paying for it.   Sad part is they don't care if they dump the bill on their kids or grandkids.   Pretty sad .....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one month ago
By far Biden's biggest mistake was his belief that he could persuade some Republicans to vote for his plans.

Were they his or Bernie Sanders?


 He lives back in the world of the 1980's when some senators and congressmen would act less partisan.  

I haven't seen any of that. All I see is an old man who is acting out on an extreme far left agenda that he would have rejected 15 years ago. Every one of his executive orders is an outrage. As for Congress the worst thing that has ever happened was allowing reconciliation. The democrats have the tiniest of majorities in the House and a tie in the Senate and they are operating like they have some kind of mandate. Seventy percent of the voters don't like the direction the country is going.




Biden is not really the man for the job these days , and it probably really is because of his age.

He's there because democrats thought Sanders was unelectable.....You know the guy who propably won the DNC primary in 2016 & 2020!


Now that this economic agenda package is out of the way, we have to hope that the Democrats will turn their attention to beating back the anti-democracy efforts of the right to steal future elections

You mean like Elias & Zuckerberg did?  Or the DNC did with Sanders?

BTW, the goal now for the radical left is "CLIMATE."  Clueless Joe has already got his orders.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    one month ago

Biden and the Democrats should claim all the credit for the infrastructure package. Trump was president for four years and did not even present an infrastructure bill , let alone get one passed.

I personally wish that all the proposals from the social spending bill had been included in the final version, but even without them all the Democrats can campaign on the fact that they did something for the American people while the Republicans whined about not wanting to wear masks and how "critical race theory" , a law school subject, was being taught to their 8 year olds. jrSmiley_30_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3    one month ago
Biden and the Democrats should claim all the credit for the infrastructure package.

The Democrats' wish list is ALL theirs.

Now, the real infrastructure bill was negotiated by Biden includes Democrats AND Republicans.

It could pass the House if Democrats would stop obstructing.

Maybe Nancy will bring it to a vote one day, who knows? The fact that she has promised to vote on it and renigged every time isn't going unnoticed.

Best prep yourself for the midterm disaster facing Democrats.

Their wish list has been pared down quite a bit by sane members.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3    one month ago
Trump was president for four years and did not even present an infrastructure bill , let alone get one passed.

It wouldn't have gotten passed.  All due to because of who he was.  On top of that the money was being wasted by Democrats on the Russian collusion hoax.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2    one month ago

For the first two years he was in office Trump had both a Republican Senate and a Republican House. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    one month ago
For the first two years he was in office Trump had both a Republican Senate and a Republican House.

And at this very minute, there is a bipartisan, real infrastructure bill already passed by the Senate that Democrats in the House are obstructing.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.2.3  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    one month ago

After the 2016 election, the Republicans held 51 seats in the Senate, after the 2018 election the Republicans held 53 seats. Hardly the powerhouse to do anything they wanted to get done.  Just like the Democrats this year, the Republicans had to reach across the isle to get an infrastructure bill passed.  As the Democrats were against giving Trump anything that looked like a win...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    one month ago

It wouldn't have gotten passed.  All due to because of who he was.  On top of that the money was being wasted by Democrats on the Russian collusion hoax.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2    one month ago
On top of that the money was being wasted by Democrats on the Russian collusion hoax.

Not true - plus there was no hoax.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4  Tessylo    one month ago

Thanks to that Dick Manchin and that bitch Sinema, DINOS BOTH.

Corrupt Manchin - you got that right John.

Fuck them both!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @4    one month ago

Makes sense, fuck the two sane members of your party.

Their sanity must be why Democrats are eating their own.

 
 
 
Kathleen
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4.1.1  Kathleen  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1    one month ago

Two that actually THINK.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Kathleen @4.1.1    one month ago

"Two that actually THINK."

About how to line their own pockets.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Kathleen @4.1.1    one month ago

That's why they are suddenly pariahs to fellow Democrats

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Guide
4.1.4  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1    one month ago
fuck the two sane members of your party.\

Probably not her party

Sinema and Manchin are members of the democratic party.

Most leftists on here tend to be more favorable of the socialist or communist parties.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @4.1.4    one month ago

They're cockroaches.  Some here have experience with that.

 
 
 
Kathleen
Professor Principal
4.1.6  Kathleen  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.3    one month ago

There is always an echo...

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Guide
4.1.7  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.5    one month ago
Some here have experience with that.

Yes, yes we have, but there is no reason to refer to yourself as an insect.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Senior Participates
4.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @4    one month ago
Thanks to that Dick Manchin and that bitch Sinema

It must really burn your ass that there are those in your own party with a brain and willing to stand up against the irresponsible spending.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2    one month ago

Those two assholes are just thinking of themselves, and lining their own pockets.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2    one month ago

You have no clue.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
PhD Quiet
4.2.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.1    one month ago

Just about like every other politician in DC is, both Republican and Democrat is to one extent or the other.

 
 
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