Why saying Liz Cheney isn't a Republican proves the GOP is just a cult of personality

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  3 weeks ago  •  49 comments

Why saying Liz Cheney isn't a Republican proves the GOP is just a cult of personality
The move has zero practical impact -- Cheney will still run as a Republican in next year's primary election -- but it is a telling indicator of how far the Republican Party has strayed from first principles as it morphs into a cult of personality around former President Donald Trump. Start here: By every measure you can find, Liz Cheney is not only a Republican, but a pretty conservative one.

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Why saying Liz Cheney isn't a Republican proves the GOP is just a cult of personality







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Over the weekend, the Wyoming Republican Party voted to   no longer recognize Rep. Liz Cheney as one of their own .

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"To further her own personal political agenda, Representative Liz Cheney has not only caused massive disruption, distraction and division within the House Republican Conference, but has also willingly, happily, and energetically joined forced with and proudly pledged allegiance to democrat Speaker of the House Pelosi, as a means of serving her own personal interests while ignoring the interests, needs and expectations of Wyoming Republicans,"   read the resolution dropping Cheney from the GOP , as reported by the Casper Star-Tribune.


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The move has zero practical impact -- Cheney will still run as a Republican in next year's primary election -- but it is a telling indicator of how far the Republican Party has strayed from first principles as it morphs into a cult of personality around former President Donald Trump.

Start here: By every measure you can find, Liz Cheney is not only a Republican, but a pretty conservative one.

According to the   conservative Heritage Action group , Cheney's lifetime vote score is 80%. National Journal's vote ratings give her a composite 77% conservative score.   Calculations done by 538   show that Cheney voted with Trump 92.9% of the time during his term in office.

Heck, Cheney's main rival for the Republican nomination in 2022, Harriet Hageman, endorsed her 2016 campaign! "I know that Liz Cheney is a proven, courageous, constitutional conservative, someone who has the education, the background and experience to fight effectively for Wyoming on a national stage,"   Hageman said at the time . "There have been and will continue to be concerted efforts to force true conservatives to sit down and shut up. Those efforts have never worked on me and I know that they will not work on and have no effect on Liz Cheney."

What happened over those five years? Did Cheney change?

Nope! Again,   according to Heritage Action , Cheney had a 61% conservative rating in the 115th Congress, which was in session in 2017 and 2018. In the 116th Congress, her score jumped to 82%. And so far in this, the 117th Congress, Cheney's rating is 96%.

So, if anything, Cheney has gotten MORE conservative -- at least in terms of her voting record -- since she came to Congress (and since Hageman praised her as a "proven, courageous, constitutional conservative" back in 2016).

Cheney hasn't changed. What has changed is what it means to be a Republican.

Out are things like adherence to smaller government or hawkishness in foreign policy. Or even so-called "family values." In is worshiping at the altar of Trump.

See, the ONLY thing that's changed about Cheney is that she was one of the most outspoken Republicans in Congress in condemning Trump for his role before, during and after the   January 6 riot   at the US Capitol. She was one of 10 Republicans in the House who voted to impeach him. She has said repeatedly -- and publicly -- that she does not believe he should have a role in the future of the party.

For those views, she was ousted earlier this year from her role as the third-ranking Republican in the House -- and replaced with New York Rep. Elise Stefanik, a Trump favorite. (Stefanik's lifetime score with Heritage Action is 48%.) And for those views, she is in the fight of her political life against Hageman,   whom Trump endorsed in September . (In that endorsement statement, the former president called Cheney a "warmonger" and a "disloyal Republican.")

Cheney is in all of this political trouble not because she abandoned conservative principles or moved to the left ideologically. She's in this position for one reason: because the modern Republican Party is a cult of personality and she had the audacity to speak out against the cult leader.






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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago
Cheney is in all of this political trouble not because she abandoned conservative principles or moved to the left ideologically. She's in this position for one reason: because the modern Republican Party is a cult of personality and she had the audacity to speak out against the cult leader.
 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2  Greg Jones    3 weeks ago

Whatever.....the bitch will be primaried out and lose

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @2    3 weeks ago
the bitch will be primaried out and lose

Because she refuses to march lockstep with the rest of the Trumpster republicans.

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Ronin2
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2.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1    3 weeks ago

You mean like Manchin and Sinema refuse to march lockstep with the rest of the far left wack job Democrats? Don't see Republicans hounding Liz into bath rooms, onto boats, in airports, and anywhere else they can find her. They are just resolute that she will pay in the primaries for being Pelosi's bitch. She stopped being a Republican the second she allowed herself to be nominated to the the commission by Pelosi. She is not representing the Republicans; but Nancy Pelosi. They never certified her position. Democrats can scream she is a Republican forever; it won't make it true.

Reagan said it best.

“America stands on four main values: Faith in God, Freedom of Speech, Family and Economic Freedom.  If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism.”

So your goose stepping image is best suited for the Democrats.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.1    3 weeks ago
Don't see Republicans hounding Liz all over the place. They are just resolute that she will pay in the primaries for being Pelosi's bitch.

The state Republican Party declared that she is not a Republican anymore.  You dont consider that "hounding"?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.1    3 weeks ago
You mean like Manchin and Sinema refuse to march lockstep with the rest of the far left wack job Democrats?

How have the democrats punished them for having a difference of opinion?  Democrats may not like it at times, but they don't punish other democrats for disagreeing like republicans do.

GOP Ousts Cheney From Leadership Over Her Criticism Of Trump

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1.4  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    3 weeks ago

No, that is called decertification; which means she isn't a Republican- got it? Republicans are allowed to say who are in their ranks; and she isn't one any longer.

Which means the entire damn she is a Republican argument is pure BS.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2.1.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1    3 weeks ago

Calling her a bitch is laughable considering the whinny little bitch he idolizes.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.1.5    3 weeks ago
Calling her a bitch is laughable

Also ironic since if we call any other right wing a bitch we get crucified

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.7    3 weeks ago

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Ronin2
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2.1.9  Ronin2  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.3    3 weeks ago

Again, she is not a Republican. She was bounced for being appointed to the Jan 6th commission by Pelosi; period. The Democrats would do the exact same thing to any of their members that allowed themselves to be appointed by any Republican leader to any commission. The entire article is BS.

Seems that Manchin is considering leaving the Democrat Party because they have treated him so well./S

In recent days, Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) has told associates that he is considering leaving the Democratic Party if President Joe Biden and Democrats on Capitol Hill do not agree to his demand to cut the size of the social infrastructure bill from $3.5 trillion to $1.75 trillion, according to people who have heard Manchin discuss this. Manchin has said that if this were to happen, he would declare himself an “American Independent.” And he has devised a detailed exit strategy for his departure.

Manchin has been in the center of a wild rush of negotiations with his fellow Democrats and the White House over a possible compromise regarding Biden’s ambitious Build Back Better package, and Manchin’s opposition to key provisions—including Medicare and Medicaid expansion, an expanded child tax credit, and measures to address climate change—has been an obstacle that the Democrats have yet to overcome. As these talks have proceeded, Manchin has discussed bolting from the Democratic Party—perhaps to place pressure on Biden and Democrats in these negotiations.

He told associates that he has a two-step plan for exiting the party. First, he would send a letter to Sen. Chuck Schumer, the top Senate Democrat, removing himself from the Democratic leadership of the Senate. (He is vice chair of the Senate Democrats’ policy and communications committee.) Manchin hopes that would send a signal. He would then wait and see if that move had any impact on the negotiations. After about a week, he said, he would change his voter registration from Democrat to independent.

There are calls for Sinema to leave the Democrat Party.

New York Times editorial board member Michelle Cottle last week called for Sen. Kyrsten Sinema , D-Ariz., to leave the Democratic Party and become an independent. 

In a Friday op-ed , Cottle cited the moderate Democrat's split with others in her party on major issues related to President Biden's Build Back Better agenda as a reason she should consider leaving and suggested her departure could wind up "being positive for all involved."

Cottle wrote that progressives remained angry at Sinema over what they saw as "betrayals" when she decided to oppose an increase in the minimum wage and support maintaining the Senate filibuster rule . She added that Sinema might be on the same path to abandon her "team" altogether, listing past senators who switched parties during their terms.

She referenced the harassment Sinema had received from protestors since announcing her opposition to the massive Democrat-backed $3.5 trillion spending bill still being negotiated in Congress, and claimed that people didn't have a clear sense of what her principles actually were, or what mattered to her.

"Some have suggested that she’s charting a path out of office entirely. But Ms. Sinema’s better course may be not to leave the Senate but to split with her party. Her departure might even wind up being a positive for all involved," she wrote. 

Have to love the ever tolerant left.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.8    3 weeks ago

Are you implying that one of my friends is ugly? Let's not go there.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.10    3 weeks ago

Nope. Just has no room to talk that's all.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.1.12  Sparty On  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.10    3 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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2.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.10    3 weeks ago

Sounds like I'm being doxed here.  How would anyone know what I look like?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.12    3 weeks ago

NO one was talking to you yet you piped in without a clue.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.13    3 weeks ago

very good question

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.16  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.14    3 weeks ago

I have him on ignore but he still insists on replying to me. Was it his usual snarky, no value comment?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.16    3 weeks ago

Well that is all he's got so that would be a safe assumption.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.9    3 weeks ago

They should both get the fuck out then - they're DINOs.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.20  Ozzwald  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.9    3 weeks ago
The Democrats would do the exact same thing to any of their members that allowed themselves to be appointed by any Republican leader to any commission.

Bullshit.

Seems that Manchin is considering leaving the Democrat Party because they have treated him so well.

Awww, poor baby....

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.1.21  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.14    3 weeks ago

Yawn ..... pretty close to beer thirty

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.22  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.9    3 weeks ago
The Democrats would do the exact same thing to any of their members that allowed themselves to be appointed by any Republican leader to any commission.

Wasn't Sinema attacked a bathroom because she wouldn't stay in line with the party?

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.23  devangelical  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.22    3 weeks ago

nah, some thumpers were trying to snap a picture of her sporting a dick in the women's restroom.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.24  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.22    3 weeks ago

Wasn't Sinema attacked a bathroom because she wouldn't stay in line with the party?

No

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.25  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @2.1.23    3 weeks ago

The left would have loved to see those pictures.  

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.26  devangelical  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.25    3 weeks ago

why, when there's melania. she sports the biggest dick on the planet.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.27  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @2.1.26    3 weeks ago

It must suck to have that man live rent free in your head.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.28  Tessylo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.27    3 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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2.1.29  Tessylo  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.21    3 weeks ago

"Yawn ..... pretty close to beer thirty"

Whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.30  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.29    3 weeks ago

It's meant to dismiss you.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.31  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.30    3 weeks ago

I was oblivious to that ignorance and probably in bed at that time.  

 
 
 
evilgenius
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3  evilgenius    3 weeks ago
What has changed is what it means to be a Republican.

That's pretty much the crux of the Republican Party now and many Democrats are willing to follow them down that same rabbit hole of "party purity".

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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4  Raven Wing    3 weeks ago

The right proves once again that, if you are not in lock step with Trump, and your lips are not firmly affixed to his a$$, then you are not worthy to be a Republican. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5  Buzz of the Orient    3 weeks ago

If the Republican Party was made up of politicians who had Liz Cheney's principles Americans would be a lot better off than they are today. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.1  Sparty On  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    3 weeks ago

You mean we need more carpetbagging politicians of no substance that had their way into politics paved my their daddy?

I don't think so .....

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sparty On @5.1    3 weeks ago
"Follow the fold and stray no more
Stray no more, stray no more"
(Guys and Dolls)
 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.1.1    3 weeks ago

“He knows nothing; and he thinks he knows everything. That points clearly to a political career.”
― George Bernard Shaw, Major Barbara

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sparty On @5.1.2    3 weeks ago

Bravo, Sparty On.  Damn, it's great to see that there are right-wingers who have and use classic knowledge.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.1.3    3 weeks ago

I find that one of the biggest mistakes some people make is underestimating folks who are not of like mind.

A foolish mindset to have and yet, many folks today still fall into that trap.

 
 
 
Duck Hawk
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5.2  Duck Hawk  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    3 weeks ago

Instead we have unprincipled politicians and voters who are willing to forgo all of their ethics and morals to keep people in power who do not and never did have their interests at heart. What has the republican party done of their constituents other than "own" a few "libs."

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Duck Hawk @5.2    3 weeks ago

You will see at the midterms

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.2.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.1    3 weeks ago

As I said to you previously, "Not so fast, Louie" (Rick Blaine / Humphrey Bogart to Captain Louis Renault / Claud Rains in Casablanca)

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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6  Mark in Wyoming     3 weeks ago

A little clarification here , it is the STATE Gop that has decided to not recognize her as a republican , not the national counterpart.

 that simply means they wont be giving her any money for a campaign .  and it is the state gop that will determine for themselves whom they will contribute to under the party banner within the state .

not being a member of the party , i really dont care what they say or think .

 
 
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