The Survivor

  

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By:  buzz-of-the-orient  •  one month ago  •  36 comments

The Survivor

The Survivor 

I didn’t know his background, if you didn’t know either, you might be interested.




In June of 1941, Hitler's Army began a rampage through Ukraine, razing towns, unleashing death squads, and massacring Jews by the hundreds of thousands.







In one village in the Pale of Settlement, virtually the only region of the Soviet Empire in which Jews were permitted to reside, four Jewish brothers enlisted in the military, said goodbye to their parents, and walked off to fight the Nazis. 







By the war's end in 1945, only one of the brothers, named Semyon, was still alive. 







He returned to find that the Nazis had torched his entire village, burning his parents to death. Semyon’s family was dead, and his beloved Ukraine was in ruins.







The Nazis had murdered between 1.2 and 1.6 million Ukrainian Jews.







Semyon married a fellow Ukrainian Jew who had survived the war by fleeing her city, in which the Nazis had killed 5,000 Jews. 







Two years later, in that same city, they had a son, Oleksandr, keeping alive the family line that the Nazis had brought a razor's width from extinction. 







Thirty-one years after that, Oleksandr had his own little boy. That boy was Volodymyr Zelenskyy, who grew up to become the President of independent, democratic Ukraine. 




Today, he leads his outmanned, outgunned, ferociously defiant nation against the onslaught of Russia. As Russia dashes itself against the will of his people, Zelenskyy, the survivor of survivors, summons the resilience of his ancestors.

He does not bend.


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Buzz of the Orient
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1  author  Buzz of the Orient    one month ago

This story was sent to me in an email by my brother.  I would appreciate if someone who has access to more web sites than I do would research to determine the veractiy of this story.  If it is not true I will delete this article. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1    one month ago

I did find this (Link) ->

 
 
 
shona1
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1.2  shona1  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1    one month ago

Evening Buzz...yes it is correct...🇺🇦🇺🇦

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2  Gsquared    one month ago

The story is true.  It was reported extensively in all of the media and has become very well known since the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

These are the people the fascist butcher Putin pretends are Nazis. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3  Kavika     4 weeks ago

The story is true and has been reported on by every media source in the world, though probably not in China. 

The Russians have also killed a number of Holocaust survivors in Ukraine, they are Nazi's ya know. /s

Reading the story that is the headline story for NT today will also give you a real/true view of the Russian invasion.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @3    4 weeks ago

It doesn't matter if it wasn't reported in China, I read USAToday, npr world and American news, CTV News (Canada Television News) and Microsoft Bing News every single day, and I had not seen that story before.  

Holocaust survivors have been killed in many countries, such as France, Israel and America as well.

Yes, I read that story, very sad.

Kavika, my mother was born in Kiev (as it was then known), and my father was born in White Russia.  I must have family in both countries although I don't know them.  I have immediate parental blood in my veins from both sides and I will NOT take sides no matter how much I am taunted and insulted for not doing so. 

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.1  JBB  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1    4 weeks ago

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Gsquared
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3.1.2  Gsquared  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1    4 weeks ago

One of my grandfathers was born in Kiev and one was born in White Russia.   The family that had they had left there were killed when the Germans invaded.

Doesn't not "taking sides" when the moral position is so clear, and the criminal behavior so egregious, become the equivalent of siding with evil?  You are NOT a person who I think would do that.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Martin Niemöller

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Visitors stand in front of the quotation from   Martin Niemöller   that is on display in the Permanent Exhibition of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. Niemöller was a Lutheran minister and early Nazi supporter who was later imprisoned for opposing Hitler's regime.

  • US Holocaust Memorial Museum

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.2    4 weeks ago
and one was born in White Russia. 

Was there any other kind?

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.4  Gsquared  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.3    4 weeks ago

"White Russia" is what people of my grandfather's era called Belarus.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.5  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.2    4 weeks ago

I'm not going to bother repeating for the 10th time on this site why because of my profession and yours, I am aware that there are always going to be two sides (at least) to every story, and as the late Paul Harvey (where is he when we need him more than ever?) said there was always more to a story than what one is usually told.  I said from the beginning that all the deaths, maimings, destruction, displacemts, trillions of dollars required for rebuilding, could have been avoided when the final result will most likely be exactly what could have been avoided by negotiations and compromise before it started.  Of course I detest what is happening because as I said back then everyone has to prove what big balls they have.  You will not shame me into taking sides here - I have nothing to gain from the fortunes being made by the American amament manufacturers due to more and more military aid being provided by America which will only prolong but not quickly end what is happening in Ukraine.  You chose your side, I choose neither side. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.6  Gsquared  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.5    4 weeks ago

You have said from the beginning that you detest what is occurring.  There is no question about that, and I have never even hinted otherwise.  I just believe that you are mistaken if you believe that there is a moral equivalence between what Russia is doing and what the Ukrainians are doing.  I also do not think that negotiations that led to anything other than the complete capitulation of the Ukrainians to Putin were possible.  I'm sure you are well aware of the history of the Sudetenland in 1938.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.7  Kavika   replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1    4 weeks ago

Good to know that you won't take a stand when a genocide of the Ukraine people is taking place. Your parental blood doesn't mean a damn thing since you have no qualms in seeing the Ukrainians slaughtered. 

Your comment on all of this could have been avoided through negotiation is ridiculous on its face. Putin doesn't have negotiation he wants Ukraine to no longer exist. WTF were the Ukrainians going to negotiate for Buzz. Do you see the Ukrainians killing Russian civilians? That is what the Russians are doing by killing thousands of civilians, committing war crimes, and genocide. 

What if Syria with Russian backing invaded Israel, would you be calling for Israel to negotiate and give part of their country away? Because that is exactly what you what Ukraine to do. 

I'm not taunting or insulting you, I'm pointing out the facts and it will be the last time I bother with that. Stay in your little world in China and ignore the genocide before your eyes. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.8  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.6    4 weeks ago

I don't recall saying there was ever a moral equivalence - would you like to point out where I said there was?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1.9  Kavika   replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.5    4 weeks ago
I have nothing to gain from the fortunes being made by the American amament manufacturers due to more and more military aid being provided by America which will only prolong but not quickly end what is happening in Ukraine.  You chose your side, I choose neither side.

If it wasn't for those American armament manufacturers and the US Israel wouldn't exist. 

BTW, China is the world's 3rd largest arms exporter and Israel is the world's 10th largest arms exporter. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @3.1.9    4 weeks ago
If it wasn't for those American armament manufacturers and the US Israel wouldn't exist.

Perhaps, but the US didn't start supporting Israel with any significant aid until after the 1973 Yom Kippur War.  The inept Arabs greatly outnumbered the Jews but failed in multiple attempts to kill them.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.11  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @3.1.7    4 weeks ago

Never did I say which side was right and which side was wrong.  All I ever did is say that there are two sides to every story with no comment as which was right or which was wrong and have paid for staying out of it and not making myself the judge of the world and so losing friendships on this site because of that.  Fuck everyone. 

Yes, I have personal opinions about Israel, that in fact it is legally entitled to ALL of Israel notwithstanding the opinions of the majority of the United Nations and all other Palestinian terrorist sympathizers, so in the circumstance you related I do not agree with your "hypothetical".

You and others can play up the fact that Zelinskyy is Jewish as much as you wish, but all that does is fire up emotions, doesn't it?.  He is the leader of a nation, and that is what is important. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.12  Gsquared  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.8    4 weeks ago

I said "if you believe there is a moral equivalence".

Why do you think I might see that as a question?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
3.1.13  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.12    4 weeks ago
"I said "if you believe there is a moral equivalence". Why do you think I might see that as a question?"

The fact that you even mentioned it in relation to me has more meaning than you are willing to admit. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1.14  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.10    4 weeks ago

Israel started purchasing arms from the US in 1962.  In 1968, with strong support from Congress, U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson approved the sale of F-4 Phantom II fighters to Israel, establishing the precedent for U.S. support for Israel's qualitative military edge over its neighbors.

In the Yom Kipper war, Nixon sent 120 tanks and other arms when it looked like Israel was going to be overrun. Egypt wasn't the weak link for the Arabs in that war it was Syria. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.15  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @3.1.9    4 weeks ago
"BTW, China is the world's 3rd largest arms exporter and Israel is the world's 10th largest arms exporter. "

World's Largest Exporters Of Arms  (WorldAtlas)

Rank Country Arms Exported (Millions of Dollars)
1 United States 47,169
2 Russia 33,186
3 China 9,132
4 France 8,564
5 Germany 7,946
6 United Kingdom 6,586
7 Spain 3,958
8 Italy 3,823

You're comparing China with the United States?  And Israel isn't even close...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1.16  Kavika   replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.11    4 weeks ago

Quit whining you're not paying for anything. 

Yes, I have personal opinions about Israel, that in fact it is legally entitled to ALL of Israel notwithstanding the opinions of the majority of the United Nations and all other Palestinian terrorist sympathizers, so in the circumstance you related I do not Cragree with your "hypothetical".

Ukraine is entitled to all of its land just like Israel that is why your comments are hypocritical.

You and others can play up the fact that Zelinskyy is Jewish as much as you wish, but all that does is fire up emotions, doesn't it?.  He is the leader of a nation, and that is what is important. 

I stated that Zelensky was Jewish in another article and confirmed the question you asked in this article I didn't play up any fact so stop with the BS, Buzz. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1.17  Kavika   replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.15    4 weeks ago
You're comparing China with the United States?  And Israel isn't even close...

China is the 3rd largest exporter of arms is what I said. Is it false? No, it isn't and Israel is 10th so quit fucking whining about the US arms companies and the US.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.18  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @3.1.14    4 weeks ago
In 1968, with strong support from Congress, U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson approved the sale of F-4 Phantom II fighters to Israel,

A sale not aid.  Did the USSR provide Egypt free MIGs?   

Nixon sent 120 tanks and other arms when it looked like Israel was going to be overrun

On 14 Oct 1973, Nixon authorized military aid to Israel.  On 15 Oct, Israel counterattacked and crossed the Suez.  US aid of course hadn't arrived.  Israel finished kicking Arab ass on 25 Oct and the war ended.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.19  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @3.1.7    4 weeks ago
"I'm not taunting or insulting you"

LOL.  If you don't consider "... you have no qualms in seeing the Ukrainians slaughtered."  to be an insult I'm beginning to wonder about what you DO consider to be an insult.  I preferred to reply to you rather than flag that. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.20  Gsquared  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.13    4 weeks ago

If you say so.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
3.1.22  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @3.1.17    4 weeks ago

So why did you even MENTION China and Israel Arms exports?  That's kind of a "tailored" comment, a little "poke" eh? since they have nothing to do with the issue of arms provided to Ukraine.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1.23  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.18    4 weeks ago
A sale not aid.  Did the USSR provide Egypt free MIGs?   

I didn't state it was aid, it's quite clear that is was sale. Did USSR provide Egypt free MIGS? that would be a question for you to answer since I didn't state or refer to that anywhere in my comment.

On 14 Oct 1973, Nixon authorized military aid to Israel.  On 15 Oct, Israel counterattacked and crossed the Suez.  US aid of course hadn't arrived.  Israel finished kicking Arab ass on 25 Oct and the war ended.  

Which of course doesn't have anything to do with Nixon sending 120 tanks and other aid. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3.1.24  Kavika   replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.22    4 weeks ago
So why did you even MENTION China and Israel Arms exports?  That's kind of a "tailored" comment, a little "poke" eh? since they have nothing to do with the issue of arms provided to Ukraine.

I mentioned it to point out to you your obsession with the US arms manufacturers that your country of residence is a major seller of arms as well. Of course, Israel is also an exporter of arms. Is the money China and Israel receive from selling arms any different than the money that the US receives? Do they have a special dispensation?

Should the US stop selling arms to Israel, it's been $7.2 billion in the last 10 years.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
3.1.25  author  Buzz of the Orient  impassed  Kavika @3.1.24    4 weeks ago
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Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.26  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @3.1.23    4 weeks ago
Which of course doesn't have anything to do with Nixon sending 120 tanks and other aid

Nor did it have anything to do with the Israel victory over the numerically superior, but militarily inferior Arabs.  

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4  Nerm_L    4 weeks ago

Here is Volodymyr Zelensky's family history from Wikipedia:    (Note: the embedded links have been left intact.)

"Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelenskyy was born to  Jewish  parents on 25 January 1978 in  Kryvyi Rih , then in the  Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic . [15] [16] [17] [18]  His father,  Oleksandr Zelenskyy , is a professor and computer scientist and the head of the Department of Cybernetics and Computing Hardware at the  Kryvyi Rih State University of Economics and Technology ; his mother, Rymma Zelenska, used to work as an engineer. [19] [20] [21]  His grandfather, Semyon (Simon) Ivanovych Zelenskyy, served as an infantryman, reaching the rank of  Colonel , [5]  in the  Red Army  (in the  57th Guards Motor Rifle Division ) [22]  during  World War II ; Semyon's father and three brothers died in  the Holocaust . [23] [24] [25] [26]  In March 2022 Zelenskyy revealed that his great-grandparents had been killed after German troops burned their home to the ground during a  massacre . [27] Prior to starting elementary school, Zelenskyy lived for four years in the Mongolian city of  Erdenet , where his father worked. [16]  Zelenskyy grew up speaking Russian. [28] [5]  At the age of 16, he passed the  Test of English as a Foreign Language  and received an education grant to study in Israel, but his father did not allow him to go. [29]  He later earned a law degree from the  Kryvyi Rih Institute of Economics , then a department of  Kyiv National Economic University  and now part of  Kryvyi Rih National University , but did not go on to work in the legal field. [16] [30] "

Here is Volodymyr Zelensky' biography from the Encyclopedia Britannica: 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
5  author  Buzz of the Orient    4 weeks ago

I posted this article as a credit to Zelenskyy and I'm paying the price for having done so.  If anything, obviously Zelenskyy is a "David vs Goliath" hero and I'll be shocked if he isn't the next Time Magazine Person of the Year. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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5.1  Gsquared  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    4 weeks ago

You're not paying any price.  There is a discussion going on.  I thought that's what this place was about.

Zelensky is the Man of the Year.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Quiet
5.2  charger 383  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    4 weeks ago

I would like to see that

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
6  author  Buzz of the Orient    4 weeks ago

I should not have even bothered to post this article, which I thought was a compliment to Zelenskyy.  It is now locked for good.

 
 

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