Trumpism without Trump

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  4 weeks ago  •  51 comments

Trumpism without Trump
"He put a gun to his head and pulled the trigger," McConnell said while standing in a doorway of the Capitol after midnight, according to the excerpt. "Couldn't have happened at a better time."

He first has to win a Governor's election, which he is now favored to do, but the heir apparent to Donald Trump has governed the state of Florida exactly as an America First Republican should. As Governor he has fought for the people against the woke elite. Most recently, while giving a stern warning to illegal migrants, he passed a Parent's Rights Bill. The state of Florida has flourished under his leadership. 

Btw, I went to look up DeSantis accomplishments from last year and guess what I found?

https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/14956/gov-desantis-6-big-achievements-of-2021

I won't bother to list them again. Let's just say he outdid himself this year with the Parent's Rights Bill.

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His impact:

"At the end of 2021, Florida GOP’s voter registration numbers officially overtook the state Democratic Party , giving Republicans the lead in a state steadily shifting red.

Now, Republicans in Florida outnumber Democrats for the first time by over 100,000 voters, in both new registrants and party switches, according to internal numbers from   Gov. Ron DeSantis ' re-election campaign exclusively obtained by Fox News Digital."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-registered-republican-voters-100k-gain-democrats

He has youth and experience on his side and thus far he carries none of the political baggage of Donald Trump. I say thus far, because I'm sure democrats will try to smear him as they did Trump. Fortunately, progressives are still focused on Trump and intend to take him out/prosecute him. Trump's refusal to accept his 2020 loss may have doomed him, but if it hasn't I believe the democrats will find a way to take him out of the running in 2024.

"The Democrats are going to take care of the son of a bitch for us," McConnell said of the House's 2021 impeachment proceedings, according to Times reporters Alex Burns and Jonathan Martin."

https://news.yahoo.com/mitch-mcconnell-privately-said-democrats-152632316.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

I don't agree with McConnell's characterization, but I do believe that someway, somehow all the forces that the democrat party possess will be used to stop Donald Trump from running again. They can remove Trump, but Ron DeSantis will restore the policies of Trump. Based on the performance of Biden vs the performance of the Governor of Florida, I think the Presidential election of 2024 will be a cake walk.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

"TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida Republicans have been in power in the state for more than 20 years — but Gov. Ron DeSantis achieved in just three short days what would once have been unthinkable.

The GOP governor pressed legislators to act with dizzying speed during this week’s special legislative session to muscle through a new congressional map that will likely boost Republicans’ power significantly. The governor also convinced lawmakers to  approve two bills  that punish Disney over the company’s public criticism of a new law that restricts how sexual orientation and gender identity are addressed in schools."

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 weeks ago
Gov. Ron DeSantis achieved in just three short days what would once have been unthinkable.

... a fascist theocracy within the US.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.1  Ender  replied to  devangelical @1.1    4 weeks ago

Amazing they admit what they are doing and the republicans still either cheer or turn a blind eye.

 
 
 
gooseisback
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1.1.2  gooseisback  replied to  devangelical @1.1    4 weeks ago
a fascist theocracy within the US.

Is that how Democrats view a Governor that is doing what the people want?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  gooseisback @1.1.2    4 weeks ago

I think that we can conclude, at long last, that most democrats don't care about the American people.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.4  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    4 weeks ago

Imagine that...  a political party that despite their rhetoric doesn't really care about the people...

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    4 weeks ago

no democrats I know think of trumpsters as american after 1/6/21.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.4    4 weeks ago

It's all about an ideology:

"Real Time" host   Bill Maher   appeared on "Cuomo Prime Time" and offered   CNN   viewers something they rarely see on the network: criticism of   Democrats

During an interview on Wednesday, Maher insisted, "Anyone with a D next to their name is just completely toxic" to ordinary Americans, particularly in the age of wokeism. 

"Woke -- I don't remember the day the term was born, although I hear AOC says, ‘Only old people use it now.’ Well, you gave it to us. Like five years ago. So sorry we didn't get the memo," Maher told CNN anchor Chris Cuomo on Wednesday. "In its best sense, if we're talking about being aware of things we should have always been aware of more, reckonings that we've had… but there's a reason why the term ‘woke’ has come to signify going too far. And doing things that don't make sense."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.1.5    4 weeks ago
no democrats I know think

That's right, they don't do much thinking at all.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    4 weeks ago
most democrats don't care about the American people

What kind of bullshit is that? If that's the conclusion you've drawn than perhaps you should extract the cranium from the conservative alternate universe that clearly has you beyond confused. Democrats are Americans and they love America and their fellow citizens. The ones truly refusing to care about the American people are the ones who haughtily proclaim that liberals, progressives, lgtbq Americans and minorities aren't somehow American enough for equal rights simply because they refuse to be controlled by the dying diseased white religious conservative patriarchy.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.1.9  Ender  replied to  devangelical @1.1.5    4 weeks ago

I have come to the conclusion they like being told what to do.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.10  devangelical  replied to  Ender @1.1.9    4 weeks ago

... and what to think.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.8    4 weeks ago
Democrats are Americans and they love America and their fellow citizens.

Then explain the democrat logic raised by Sen Tom Cotton:

"The $1.6 trillion of student loan debt that Biden wants taxpayers to pay is ~$13,000 for every family in America. Why should those who didn't go to college or responsibly paid their loans be responsible for $13,000 in new debt?"

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.12  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.7    4 weeks ago
That's right, they don't do much thinking at all.

Is it grade school retort day? This is the second one in the last hour coming from conservatives. Do they imagine that this kind of taunt is effective?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.12    4 weeks ago
Is it grade school retort day?

Take a look at your buddies comments. You tell me.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.14  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.11    4 weeks ago
Then explain the democrat logic raised by Sen Tom Cotton:

Perhaps because a quality education for our citizens is important and can increase the quality of life for more than just the educated. A rising tide lifts all boats. It's sad that those that lack higher educated are so bitter about their lot in life that they have to reject any idea of helping more people afford the quality education they chose not to pursue.

Helping those in financial straights due to educations financial burden is showing true love for the American people. Refusing to help out your fellow citizens out of greed, selfishness or bitterness is the real sign of a cancerous heart and an inability to show compassion for others.

 
 
 
Sunshine
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1.1.15  Sunshine  replied to  devangelical @1.1.5    4 weeks ago
no democrats I know think of trumpsters as american after 1/6/21.

who are these trumpsters?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.14    4 weeks ago

I have two daughters who paid off their student loans. 

I'm sure that the votes of those under the burden of student loans will be very important in the coming elections. Oh, did I give it away?

 
 
 
Sunshine
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1.1.17  Sunshine  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.14    4 weeks ago
Helping those in financial straights due to educations financial burden is showing true love for the American people.

you didn't answer the question.

"The $1.6 trillion of student loan debt that Biden wants taxpayers to pay is ~$13,000 for every family in America. Why should those who didn't go to college or responsibly paid their loans be responsible for $13,000 in new debt?"

How is placing extra burden on your fellow citizen to pay "true love"?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  Sunshine @1.1.17    4 weeks ago

Maybe he subscribes to the AOC economic theory of how to pay for things -- you just pay for it!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.19  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.14    4 weeks ago

I think it very un-American to demand others pay your personal debts, especially when Biden's economy is doing so great!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @1.1.1    4 weeks ago

[Deleted.]  Or was it a standing ovation?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.21  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1.5    4 weeks ago

"no democrats I know think of trumpsters as american after 1/6/21."

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Ya!  You are correct, as usual.  

 
 
 
Sunshine
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1.1.22  Sunshine  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.18    4 weeks ago
Maybe he subscribes to the AOC economic theory of how to pay for things -- you just pay for it!

Sounds like he got it from some dumbass progressive website.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.23  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.20    4 weeks ago

Are you generalizing?

How about a link?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.24  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.14    4 weeks ago

I think we can apply the following to education also

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Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.25  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sunshine @1.1.17    4 weeks ago
How is placing extra burden on your fellow citizen to pay "true love"?

Because it's an investment in America's future. It's sad that this obvious conclusion is so hard to reach for some. Perhaps those who are still confused should avail themselves of a higher education, then the money will be going to help them personally and it will alleviate their irrational bitterness.

"Education is the passport to the future, for tomorrow belongs to those who prepare for it today." - Malcom X

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.26  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.24    4 weeks ago
I think we can apply the following to education also

What are the criticisms on the habits of the poor by the well-educated? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.27  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.26    4 weeks ago

I don't know

Why don't you ask them?

 
 
 
Sunshine
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1.1.28  Sunshine  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.25    4 weeks ago
 It's sad that this obvious conclusion is so hard to reach for some. Perhaps those who are still confused should avail themselves of a higher education, then the money will be going to help them personally and it will alleviate their irrational bitterness.

You can't explain it so personal digs are your weapon instead of using the basic knowledge of what a burden is and what an investment is.

I understand your frustration, the dumbass progressives like to package their messaging with all kinds of bullshit.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.29  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.27    4 weeks ago
I don't know

Then how are you applying it to education?

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1.30  Hallux  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.26    4 weeks ago
What are the criticisms on the habits of the poor by the well-educated?

As Lenny Bruce opined ... "when rich people are depicted having sex it is called eroticism, when poor people are depicted having sex it is called pornography."

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.31  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.29    4 weeks ago

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Texan1211
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1.1.32  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @1.1.5    4 weeks ago
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Jack_TX
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1.1.33  Jack_TX  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.6    4 weeks ago
but there's a reason why the term ‘woke’ has come to signify going too far. And doing things that don't make sense.

I think this expresses it incredibly well.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.34  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.23    4 weeks ago

No need.  It's the truth.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.35  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1.10    4 weeks ago

. . . and what to say.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.36  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Hallux @1.1.30    4 weeks ago

As Lenny Bruce opined

LoL, Thanks Hallux, I haven't thought of that wayward evangelist in years.  

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1.37  Hallux  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.36    4 weeks ago

I toss The Berkeley Concert onto the turntable every several years to remind me how crazy I was in the late 60's ... I'm far crazier than that now. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.38  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Hallux @1.1.37    4 weeks ago

That was his last performance wasn't it?  

Firesign Theatre does it for me.

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1.39  Hallux  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.38    4 weeks ago

I believe so.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.40  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.33    4 weeks ago

Funny how it came to mean what it should.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago

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Texan1211
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2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 weeks ago

Always amusing when one political extremist berates someone else for being extreme.

Not one thing hypocritical about that, no sir!!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 weeks ago

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Hallux
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2.2.1  Hallux  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2    4 weeks ago

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Ronin2
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2.2.2  Ronin2  replied to  Hallux @2.2.1    4 weeks ago

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Hallux
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2.2.3  Hallux  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2.2    4 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
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2.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2    4 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
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2.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @2.2.1    4 weeks ago

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MonsterMash
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2.3  MonsterMash  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 weeks ago

Unless you have untreated mental illness most free minded Americans understand while Republicans aren't perfect the other side, at least most members of the other side are crazy, and of course the leader of the other side is Joe Biden.

 
 

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