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ACLU Celebrates Ginsburg's Legacy by Editing Out Her Actual Words as Offensive

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  2 years ago  •  38 comments

By:   JONATHAN TURLEY

ACLU Celebrates Ginsburg's Legacy by Editing Out Her Actual Words as Offensive
The American Civil Liberties Union had a curious way of honoring the late Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg this week by editing out her words -- removing offensive references to "woman" and "she." I expect that Ginsburg herself would have had little patience with such woke revisionism. The ACLU wanted to not just memorialize…

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The American Civil Liberties Union had a curious way of honoring the late Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg this week by editing out her words — removing offensive references to "woman" and "she." I expect that Ginsburg herself would have had little patience with such woke revisionism.

The ACLU wanted to not just memorialize the one year anniversary of Ginsburg's death but highlight the fight over abortions in states like Texas. The quote, from Ginsburg is taken from her confirmation hearing in 1993:


"The decision whether or not to bear a child is central to a woman's life, to her well-being and dignity. It is a decision she must make for herself. When Government controls that decision for her, she is being treated as less than a fully adult human responsible for her own choices."

The ACLU however did not want to use the term "women" to refer to those who have abortions or the pronoun "she." So that quote was reproduced in this form with "women" substituted with "person's" and "she" substituted with "they":


"The decision whether or not to bear a child is central to a [person's] life, to [their] well-being and dignity… When the government controls that decision for [people], [they are] being treated as less than a fully adult human responsible for [their] own choices."

Many (including Ginsburg) could object to the use of the plural "they" for a reference to the singular "her" life as not just changing the words but the meaning.

The ACLU also cut "It is a decision she must make for herself." That was arguably the crux of the quote but it was axed entirely.

The removal of "woman" is in response to objections that biological females who identify as male are "men" and therefore "men" can get pregnant and have abortions.The result is a rewriting of Ginsburg's celebrated writings:

What is particularly curious is that the ACLU can still remove such references to "woman" or "she" in its own writings without editing historical quotations or writings. If one accepts this view that the reference to "woman" is offensive, you can still accept that historical documents should be read in their original form. You can then editorialize or contextualize with any objections or warnings.

For my part, I am a strong advocate for leaving historical documents unchanged and quoting them in their original forms. I also recently criticized the decision of the National Archives to add "trigger warnings" to historical documents as "bubbling wrapping history." I believe that people can understand such documents in their historical text, even a quote that was first spoken as recently as 1993.

It is of course ironic that this iconic liberal jurist is now the subject of corrective editing. The ACLU might be wise to consider this other Ginsburg quote:

"Fight for the things you care about, but do it in a way that will lead others to join you."




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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

She must be rolling over in her grave.

The ACLU has gone woke!

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
1.1  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 years ago

She must be rolling over in her grave.

Since this 'News' is from Sept. 2021, I doubt it. 

The ACLU has gone woke!

RBG co-founded the Women's Rights Division at the ACLU, so it's been 'woke' for DECADES. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 years ago

Yes, exactly.  They have gone away over the top woke.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
2  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 years ago

Just when you think the left can't get any more ridiculous they go and do something this stupid.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2    2 years ago
Just when you think the left can't get any more ridiculous they go and do something this stupid.

I never make that mistake anymore, thus am not shocked when idiocy like this occurs.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
2.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    2 years ago

it's a good way to look at it.  The whole "lets see how moronic they are being today".  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    2 years ago

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Vic Eldred
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3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 years ago

Just in on Twitter:

"Raise your hand if you want me to run for president in 2024."

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JohnRussell
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3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    2 years ago

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Tessylo
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3.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    2 years ago

Time to go take a trump.

Those two cups of coffee just went right through me.

Time to vomit also.

Why spoil my breakfast with that ugly pile of steaming shit?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.2    2 years ago
Those two cups of coffee just went right through me.

Coffee run is over?

There is nothing like a happy office.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    2 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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3.1.5  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    2 years ago

Consider my hand raised way high.  Trump 2024!  Let’s MAGA again!  

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.1.6  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    2 years ago

Did you tweet that? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.2    2 years ago
Time to go take a trump.

Where you taking yours to?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 years ago

Is being a SJW always tiring?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    2 years ago

Prefect demonstration of how batshit crazy the left has gone. The most extreme movement in recent American history.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    2 years ago

We have Biden projecting. He says it's those who love the country who are "radical."

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    2 years ago

He says it's those who love the country who are "radical."

Which group stormed the Capitol attempting to overturn a legal election again?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1.1    2 years ago
Which group stormed the Capitol attempting to overturn a legal election again?

The question should be which group last stormed the Supreme Court?

Clue:

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    2 years ago
The question should be

Was my question too hard??? 

How many of yours were arrested for illegal trespass and breaking in?  How many people died?  How many nooses were hung?  

Come on Russia!  You can come up with better crap than this to justify it.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1.3    2 years ago

If you were referring to 1/6/21............................

How many of yours were arrested for illegal trespass and breaking in?

823 was the last number I saw.

  How many people died?

1 Ashley Babbitt

  How many nooses were hung? 

I seem to remember 1

And who the hell is Russia? Countries talk now? Weird

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.1.5  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.4    2 years ago
If you were referring to 1/6/21.......................

That desperate to avoid answering?  Why would I be talking about 1/6 when I was replying to Vic?  Read Vic's comment, then mine, then get back to me.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.1.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1.5    2 years ago

Well after further examination, you should have labeled it rhetorical since you knew the answer

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    2 years ago
The question should be which group last stormed the Supreme Court?

You're not supposed to remember stuff like that.  It makes the left look band and they'll cry.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.7    2 years ago

The "crying game" shall resume come November.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.8    2 years ago

Oh, it's already started.  The closer to November we get the louder it will be.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.10  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.9    2 years ago

They keep leaking...drip by drip from the Jan 6th Committee. That final report will be submitted 6 weeks before the election. They think everyone is stupid

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
4.1.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.10    2 years ago

I've noticed that when it's a Democrat run "investigation", or "Committee" there are always leaks.  I wonder why that is.....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.12  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.11    2 years ago
I wonder why that is.....

That's been bothering me too!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.1.13  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.6    2 years ago
Well after further examination, you should have labeled it rhetorical since you knew the answer

I apologize, I would have spelled out and footnoted it for you, if I knew it was necessary for your understanding.

P.S. That was sarcasm...

 
 
 
JBB
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5  JBB    2 years ago

Pronouns are the least of Americans worries today!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5    2 years ago
Pronouns are the least of Americans worries today!

And yet the ACLU chose to alter RBG's statements.

Go figure.

But I will give you credit for making an actual, true statement.

Americans do have other things to worry about--like a tanking stock market, high inflation, rising interest rates, and a whole slew of things the Biden Administration is woefully inept at handling.

I notice you have stopped touting the Biden economy as great.

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
5.2  squiggy  replied to  JBB @5    2 years ago

John met the group, then they went to the store.

Who went to the store, (in Wokeland)?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  seeder  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

It is worth noting who just left. We'll just have to wait until 11:AM.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7  Tacos!    2 years ago

Seems really unnecessary, but also disrespectful of both RBG and the legal process. If the law needs to be clarified at some future date, that will be the business of the Court or Congress, not the ACLU.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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8  Thrawn 31    2 years ago

That’s dumb, quote her or don’t but don’t start changing her wording because what you are really doing is changing her meaning.

additionally people really need to start discerning between sex and gender. The two are not the same thing and cannot be used interchangeably.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
9  Thrawn 31    2 years ago

That’s dumb, quote her or don’t but don’t start changing her wording because what you are really doing is changing her meaning.

additionally people really need to start discerning between sex and gender. The two are not the same thing and cannot be used interchangeably.

 
 

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