The faux outrage that Biden is stockpiling baby formula for undocumented immigrants

  

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The faux outrage that Biden is stockpiling baby formula for undocumented immigrants
We mentioned that Trump was no fan of Flores. He tried to get rid of it but was blocked by the courts. So he followed the law, too. “We also observed all Border Patrol stations had food, snacks, juice, and infant formula available for children,” said a 2020 Department of Homeland Security Inspector General report on how the administration struggled to manage the 2019 migrant surge.

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The faux outrage that Biden is stockpiling baby formula for undocumented immigrants


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“They are sending pallets, pallets of baby formula to the border. Meanwhile, in our own district at home, we cannot find baby formula.”


— Rep. Kat Cammack (R-Fla.),   on social media , May 12


“While mothers and fathers stare at empty grocery store shelves in a panic, the Biden administration is happy to provide baby formula to illegal immigrants coming across our southern border. This is yet another one in a long line of reckless, out-of-touch priorities from the Biden administration when it comes to securing our border and protecting Americans.”


  Joint statement   by Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) and National Border Patrol Council (NBPC) President Brandon Judd, May 12

Cammack sparked a furor Thursday when she   posted photos   that compared what she said were stockpiles of baby formula for undocumented immigrants with empty grocery shelves for Americans in local stores. “You see the American government sending by the pallet thousands and thousands of containers of baby formula to the border, that would make my blood boil,” she said.

The Texas governor,   along with other Republicans , quickly jumped on the bandwagon, issuing a joint statement with a president of a labor union that represents Border Patrol agents.

Cammack said she was not blaming the babies — “it is not the children’s fault at all” — but she and Abbott blasted the Biden administration for allowing this happen.

The problem is that the Biden administration is following the law — a law that President Donald Trump also followed (though he wasn’t happy about it).


The Facts



At issue is something called the Flores consent decree, which began as a class-action lawsuit regarding the treatment of migrant children. The Justice Department negotiated a settlement in 1997 during President Bill Clinton’s administration.

The Flores settlement requires the federal government to release rather than detain undocumented immigrant children, first to their parents if possible, to other adult relatives if not, and to licensed programs willing to accept custody if no relatives are available.   A 2015 judicial ruling   then said the Flores settlement covered all children in immigration officials’ custody, regardless of whether they were apprehended crossing the border alone or with family.

Here’s the relevant section of   the settlement , which refers to the now-defunct Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS).

Note the reference to food: “Whenever the INS takes a minor into custody, it shall expeditiously process the minor and shall provide the minor with a notice of rights, including the right to a bond redetermination hearing if applicable. Following arrest, the INS shall hold minors in facilities that are safe and sanitary and that are consistent with the INS’s concern for the particular vulnerability of minors. Facilities will provide access to toilets and sinks,   drinking water and food as appropriate , medical assistance if the minor is in need of emergency services, adequate temperature control and ventilation, adequate supervision to protect minors from others, and contact with family members who were arrested with the minor.”

A 2015 Customs and Border Protection (CBP) document   laid out   national standards for transport, escort, detention and search processes. These standards are derived from the Flores settlement and a 2008 law that codified elements of Flores, the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act.

Among those standards: “Food must be appropriate for at-risk detainees’ age and capabilities (such as formula and baby food).”

We mentioned that Trump was no fan of Flores. He tried to get rid of it but was blocked by the courts. So he followed the law, too. “We also observed all Border Patrol stations had food, snacks, juice, and infant formula available for children,”   said   a 2020 Department of Homeland Security Inspector General report on how the administration struggled to manage the 2019 migrant surge.

“CBP takes seriously its legal responsibility to ensure the safety and security of individuals in our custody,” a DHS spokesman said. “Ensuring migrants, including children and infants, in our custody have their basic needs met is in line with this Administration’s commitment to ensuring safe, orderly, and humane processes at our border. CBP complies with all applicable regulations for the purchase of products used in CBP facilities.”

We sought comments from Cammack, Abbott and Judd but did not get responses.


The Pinocchio Test



This is a ridiculous faux outrage. The shortage of baby formula is a serious issue that the administration is seeking to address. But at the same time, the administration cannot be faulted for following the law and providing baby formula to undocumented immigrants. Anyone who suggests this is the result of specific Biden policies, i.e., his “reckless, out-of-touch priorities,” earns Four Pinocchios.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    one week ago
This is a ridiculous faux outrage. The shortage of baby formula is a serious issue that the administration is seeking to address. But at the same time, the administration cannot be faulted for following the law and providing baby formula to undocumented immigrants. Anyone who suggests this is the result of specific Biden policies, i.e., his “reckless, out-of-touch priorities,” earns Four Pinocchios.
 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one week ago

And the Washington Post is a left leaning source.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @1.1    one week ago

It seems that the Biden administration doesnt have a choice about providing migrant families with baby formula. That is the issue here. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    one week ago
the Biden administration doesn't have a choice about providing migrant families with baby formula. That is the issue here. 

He's the President and his party refuses to end the b..s Flores consent decree the Washington Post believes shields him.  He "doesn't have a choice" because he refuses to give himself one. He's hiding behind an excuse of his own making. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Snuffy @1.1    one week ago

What does that have to do with the law? We all know that gov runs ass-backward. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.2    one week ago

You want him to void the law so he can starve migrant babies?  Get a grip man. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.3    one week ago
We all know that gov runs ass-backward.

I'm insulted.  I and my fellow, tireless government servants struggle mightily to run forward with our asses behind us.  

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.1.6  cjcold  replied to  Snuffy @1.1    one week ago

Truth does have a liberal bias.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    one week ago
It seems that the Biden administration doesnt have a choice about providing migrant families with baby formula.

Then he should be providing it to US Citizens as well.  

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.8  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    one week ago
It seems that the Biden administration doesnt have a choice about providing migrant families with baby formula. That is the issue here. 

But it doesn't stop the Washington Post from running cover for the administration, does it.  You are so quick to hammer a post from a right-wing source but will use a left-wing source yourself.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.9  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.8    one week ago

The Washington Post is a main stream newspaper. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.5    one week ago

Thanks for the laugh!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.11  Ozzwald  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.8    one week ago
But it doesn't stop the Washington Post from running cover for the administration, does it.

In right wing speak, does "running cover" mean, reporting the truth about the situation?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @1.1.6    one week ago

"Truth does have a liberal bias."

Indeed it does.  Truth/reality=LIBERAL

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.13  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.9    one week ago

Doesn't mean it's not a left leaning source.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.14  Ozzwald  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.13    one week ago
Doesn't mean it's not a left leaning source.

Left leaning or right leaning is meaningless, as long as their articles are factual. 

Unfortunately too many of the extreme examples try to pass off opinions for facts, or even make them up entirely.

Note: I did not separate the extremes to either left or right.  Both sides do it to a greater or lesser degree.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.15  Snuffy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.14    one week ago

My reply was aimed directly at one person who yesterday attempted to shoot down my comment as my evidence came from a right-leaning source.  The article was factual but he didn't care and dismissed it due to the bias of the source.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.16  Ozzwald  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.15    one week ago
My reply was aimed directly at one person who yesterday attempted to shoot down my comment as my evidence came from a right-leaning source.

Hey, my comment was in response to yours, in this thread.  It had nothing to do with anything else outside this one particular thread.  In fact you should accept as support for what you said, if that was true and factual.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.17  Snuffy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.16    one week ago

Comment 1.1.13 was a reply directed to one person, not  you.  The fact that you replied to it does not indicate that the meaning of my post was wrong as it was aimed directly at the actions of the person it was aimed at and the actions of that person the day before.  This has nothing to do with you. That he has not responded to my comment merely indicates that he is in agreement with it. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    one week ago

faux outrage

The Washington Post  believe no one is mad?   Lol.

s Stockpiling Baby Formula

The article doesn't say he isn't. How is it a lie?

he administration cannot be faulted for following the law

Lol.. No one can be mad if you are just following orders. The Democrats control Congress and the Presidency. They can end Flores anytime they want, given Republicans long support for doing so.

Another great fact check.   The allegations are true, but no one can be mad at Biden even though he and his party refuse address the issue. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    one week ago

Then why didn't Trump get rid of the law?

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1.1  Snuffy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1    one week ago

The Trump administration did try to get rid of the Flores settlement (it was a SCOTUS case, not a law) but was blocked by the courts.  And Congress would not assist with the Democrats blocking it.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Snuffy @2.1.1    one week ago

Snuffy, if it was a SCOTUS case, it is kind of hard to get rid of.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.2    one week ago
nuffy, if it was a SCOTUS case, it is kind of hard to get rid of.

All it takes is Congressional action. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1.4  Snuffy  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.3    one week ago

True but you have to have a Congress that will work with you.  I am fairly sure that the Democrats at the time were against almost any action that Trump wanted to take.

 
 
 
charger 383
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3  charger 383    one week ago

And, if they were not allowed to cross the border, this would not be a problem.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  charger 383 @3    one week ago

They come across whether or not we want them... and now a good portion of them are Cubans.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.2  Tessylo  replied to  charger 383 @3    one week ago
All those pesky feral cats.

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.2.1  charger 383  replied to  Tessylo @3.2    one week ago

     "All those pesky feral cats."

now that you bring it up, there seems to be a shortage of cat food, too  

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.3  Ronin2  replied to  charger 383 @3    one week ago

There is the winning answer. Don't let them cross in the first damn place! 

Of course that takes putting the BP back on the front lines; and away from the processing centers!

Something Biden has no damn intention of ever doing.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4  Drinker of the Wry    one week ago

Sending formula to the border isn't the bigger issue here. There are real questions on the FDA and should they have caught this problem much sooner.  Last Sept, the FDA knew about a possible connection between Abbott formula and deadly infant infections.  Yet it took four additional months and at least two dead babies with others hospitalized before the recall was issued.

 FDA had documented serious safety concerns at this Abbott plant in 2019, 2021 and 2022.  The FDA found cronobacter in this plant and Abbott had to previously destroyed formula due to contamination that they caught in 2019 and 2020.

Digging into FDA and Abbott actions should be a focus of Congressional and media investigative reporting.

 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4    one week ago

Posted a comment yesterday about that very same subject. Largest manufacturer and they have been shut down for 3+ months now due to bureaucratic "red tape" ( read bullshit)

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.1.1  Snuffy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1    one week ago

I don't have young children so cannot test this out.  But a friend mentioned yesterday that  you can go to Amazon, at the bottom change your country to Canada and  you can order as much formula as you want and it will be delivered even to an address here in the US.  Interesting to say the least..  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.1    one week ago

Very interesting.................

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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4.1.3  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1    one week ago
Largest manufacturer and they have been shut down for 3+ months now due to bureaucratic "red tape"  ( read bullshit)

FDA OKs Release of Baby Formula From Closed Michigan Plant Linked to Recall – NBC New York

Last month , however, the FDA and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention   told NBC News   none of the bacterial strains taken at the Abbott plant matched those collected from the infants , and the agencies haven't offered an explanation for how the contamination occured.

For its part, Abbott says its formula “is not likely the source of infection,” though the FDA says its investigation continues.

I wonder "WHEN" they actually knew this ?

 
 
 
JaneDoe
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4.1.4  JaneDoe  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.1    one week ago

I joined an online group to help others find the formula they are looking for and there were a few posts about that on there. I too was wondering if it really worked.

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1.5  Hallux  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.1    one week ago

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.1.6  Snuffy  replied to  Hallux @4.1.5    one week ago

Ahh, good information.  Thanks.   Makes sense that it could be more expensive depending on the current exchange rates, a higher shipping cost and any potential import duties.

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1.7  Hallux  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.6    one week ago

It's a win on the exchange rate, 1$ US will buy you 1.29$ Canadian.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.1.8  Snuffy  replied to  JaneDoe @4.1.4    one week ago

I think it would be interesting to test out.  I did a quick search on Amazon.ca  and there were some of the baby formula's that stated they shipped from the USA.  If there are artificial limits would the fact that it ships from the US to a US address make any difference..  

 
 
 
JaneDoe
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4.1.9  JaneDoe  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.8    one week ago
  If there are artificial limits would the fact that it ships from the US to a US address make any difference.. 

Good question. I went and checked it out a bit, just to see if any of the formulas I have been watching for were in stock. Seems they are low on similac supplies too but all the ones I checked into were shipped from Canada. I will have to look into if there is a Canadian generic versions of some of them and see if they are available.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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4.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4    one week ago

You nailed it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  seeder  JohnRussell    one week ago

There is a legal requirement for the government to provide baby formula to migrant families.  There is no legal requirement that it be provided to American families. Maybe there should be. 

Y'all want the government out of your lives , right? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5    one week ago
There is a legal requirement for the government to provide baby formula to migrant families.

And you have a link to this "legal requirement" where?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1    one week ago

Get lost or learn how to read posted material. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    one week ago
The Flores settlement makes it an administrative responsibility to release children from detention without unnecessary delay to a parent or adult relative or licensed juvenile programs willing to accept custody. If temporary detention is deemed necessary for the child’s well-being, the settlement mandates that the government must provide an age-appropriate setting with few restrictions, the ability to contact family, and appropriate standards of care and comfort, including food, water, and medical care. Since 1997, attorneys have regularly intervened on behalf of 

 children and their families to force the federal government to respect the terms of the settlement.

The Flores Settlement - Immigration History
 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    one week ago
Get lost or learn how to read posted material. 

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    one week ago

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JohnRussell
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5.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.4    one week ago

I cant help you any further. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.5    one week ago

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charger 383
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5.2  charger 383  replied to  JohnRussell @5    one week ago

NO! I don't want those who should not be here, in the first place, put ahead of Citizens and Taxpayers

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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5.3  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @5    one week ago
Y'all want the government out of your lives , right?

Out of their lives, but into their wombs.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6  Right Down the Center    one week ago

Go to a grocery store and tell a woman that can't find formula for her infant that they are supplying the formula to illegals. Then tell her that she has 'rediculous faux outrage'. I dare you. Why do liberals care more for illegals than citizens?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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6.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Right Down the Center @6    one week ago

Why do liberals care more for illegals than citizens?

Since, as the article pointed out, Trump also supplied illegals with infant formula.  Are you claiming Trump is a liberal?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @6.1    one week ago

See 2.1 above..................

The Trump administration did try to get rid of the Flores settlement (it was a SCOTUS case, not a law) but was blocked by the courts.  And Congress would not assist with the Democrats blocking it.
 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @6.1    one week ago

You skipped the part where trump tried to get rid of Flores but the demoncrats wouldn't let him.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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6.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.1    one week ago

See 2.1 above..................

The Trump administration did try to get rid of the Flores settlement (it was a SCOTUS case, not a law) but was blocked by the courts.  And Congress would not assist with the Democrats blocking it.

So Trump was okay, because he didn't want to supply immigrant babies with food, but Biden isn't because he wants to feed immigrant babies?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @6.1.3    one week ago

 There was no shortage until joe. Now there is. Finish your sentence, wants to feed immigrant babies while there is a shortage for babies of citizens.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @6.1.3    one week ago

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Ozzwald
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6.1.6  Ozzwald  replied to  Right Down the Center @6.1.4    one week ago
There was no shortage until joe.

Beside the point.  The article pointed out that they were both required to provide the formula.  But you give Trump a pass because he didn't want the infants fed, and you don't agree with Biden because he does.  That is your argument.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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6.1.7  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.5    one week ago
See 6.1.2 and please work on your thread following

6.1.2 is you stating that Trump wanted to remove the requirement to providing food, water, medicine for the immigrants, including infants.  And that is why his actions were okay with you.  Your comment make so mention of supply.

I suggest you read what you wrote yourself.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @6.1.6    one week ago

The fact that there is a shortage now is totally relevant and to the point as to what is going on now.  Biden and the dems could change it since it is a current crisis yet they won't do anything other than say they are looking into it.  Trying to hide behind but but but Trump is just sad.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @6.1.7    one week ago

But but but Trump.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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6.1.10  Ozzwald  replied to  Right Down the Center @6.1.8    one week ago
The fact that there is a shortage now is totally relevant and to the point

The fact you have to add it later, to try and justify your position is utter bullshit.  It had nothing to do with your original comment.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @6.1.10    one week ago

My original comment was about going into a grocery store and telling a woman that can't find formula that her outrage was faux.the fact that you are stuck on trump is utter deflection bullshit.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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6.1.12  Ozzwald  replied to  Right Down the Center @6.1.11    one week ago
My original comment was about going into a grocery store and telling a woman that can't find formula that her outrage was faux.the fact that you are stuck on trump is utter deflection bullshit.

In fact you are being even more dishonest by refusing to acknowledge your own comment in its entirety.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @6.1.12    one week ago

But but but trump is all you have. Twist away and it always comes back to trump. So tell me, why do liberals care more about illegals than citizens? Try answering without  but but but trump.

 
 
 
JaneDoe
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6.2  JaneDoe  replied to  Right Down the Center @6    one week ago
Then tell her that she has 'rediculous faux outrage'.

I think that would earn a well deserved throat punch!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JaneDoe @6.2    one week ago

Not to mention a kick someplace else.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7  seeder  JohnRussell    one week ago

This issue really relates to the basic dishonesty of some of the political right. 

The Biden administration, the federal government, is legally mandated to provide care to detained migrant children, including providing baby formula . Right wing politicians and media make it sound like Biden has chose to favor illegal immigrants over American babies. This is the sort of dishonesty we see pretty much every minute of every day from the right, which is why the fact checker gave the anti-Biden claim four Pinocchio's. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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7.1  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @7    one week ago

Ding Ding....    A bit of truth and a bit of ah shit from you...

Right wing politicians and media make it sound like Biden has chose to favor illegal immigrants over American babies.

Absolutely fucking true..   in this case the right wing had something they could use politically against the left and they ran with it.  Hot Damn...   that's politics in this country.  Just toss around dirt on the other side, make it sound just as offensive as it can, all in order to score some "points" and gin up your base.  

This is the sort of dishonesty we see pretty much every minute of every day from the right

You see the same shit from the left when they can use something politically against the right.  Hell, try to tell me that the vote yesterday on abortion in the Senate was anything other than a political ploy from the Democrats to gin up an attack on Republicans for the mid-terms.

which is why the fact checker gave the anti-Biden claim four Pinocchio's. 

Perhaps "fact checkers" had relevance in the past but in today's political climate they are just as biased.  They gave this four Pinocchio's while disregarding the actual outrage that consumers are having when trying to find baby formula.  It's not a faux outrage, it's actual outrage.  How the fuck would you expect a mother to feel when she is shopping all around and cannot find the food her baby needs.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @7.1    one week ago
Perhaps "fact checkers" had relevance in the past but in today's political climate they are just as biased.  They gave this four Pinocchio's while disregarding the actual outrage that consumers are having when trying to find baby formula.  It's not a faux outrage, it's actual outrage.  How the fuck would you expect a mother to feel when she is shopping all around and cannot find the food her baby needs.  

It's "faux outrage", not because American parents dont have a legitimate gripe about formula shortages, but because the right has outright said that Biden favors migrants over Americans. That is , seemingly, a lie. The Biden administration is following the law. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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7.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    one week ago

Biden and the Democrats have been asking for this since their primaries. They have been ringing the dinner bell for illegal immigrants long, loud, and hard. Then they are shocked when the numbers coming into our country set records.

Now Biden is ending Title 42 in the middle of a new Covid surge (unless the courts block him). The dinner bell will be a dinner gong for all illegals coming to this country. 

U.S. intelligence officials are privately bracing for a massive influx of more than 170,000 migrants at the Mexico border if COVID-era policies that allow instant expulsions during the public health emergency are ended, sources with direct knowledge of the discussions tell Axios.
  • The response under way includes a newly created — and previously unreported Southwest Border Coordination Center (SBCC), essentially a war room to coordinate an interagency response.

Why it matters: Border officials have used Title 42 more than 1 million times to rapidly expel migrants at the southern border without hearing asylum claims. But the Trump-era order wasn't set up to be permanent, and senior Biden officials are preparing for its end as the virus is brought under control.

  • Department of Homeland Security intelligence estimates that perhaps 25,000 migrants already are waiting in Mexican shelters just south of the border for Title 42 to end.

Biden and the Democrats are encouraging this massive surge; and are violating our immigration laws. 

Why do Democrats care more about illegals than they do US citizens? 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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7.1.3  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    one week ago

The only sites where I see any "faux outrage" is on left leaning sites, I do not see the same or any indicated outrage elsewhere.  If  you have a central or right leaning site that promotes outrage please share it.  And I do not go to far-right leaning sites so if it exists on those sites I would never see it.  There are limits as to what I can stomach.  On the right leaning sites I see where Republicans call it out and I see stories where parents are upset with the inability to find baby formula.  On left leaning sites I see where Republicans are quoted but I don't see outrage in the quoted words, but in the descriptions and opinions put in after.

Could it be that perhaps the outrage is more manufactured by the writers on the sites due to the words they chose rather than any actual outrage being displayed by Republicans?  

 
 
 
Nerm_L
PhD Principal
8  Nerm_L    one week ago

The shortage of baby formula is obviously a failure of central planning by private institutions.  The government also obviously does not produce and distribute baby formula so blaming government would be ridiculous.  But the seeded article makes an argument that's so over the top it cannot be allowed to pass without comment.

Children of an age that require baby formula cannot be unaccompanied minors.  Children of that age are being carried across the border; they aren't crossing the border on their own.  Obviously children of an age that requires baby formula were fed before they were carried across the border.  So, it seems apparent that these very young children are being used as anchor babies.

The part of Flores that discusses food only applies while the people are in custody.  Biden's resumption of 'catch and release' policy means these people should not be custody for long.  The pallets of baby formula required by the court decision (not legislation) only demonstrates how large the number of people crossing the border has become.

So, this is really a story of autocratic courts imposing requirements onto the country in an undemocratic manner, the failure of Congress to address these issues over decades, and a President that arbitrarily enforces laws for political purposes.  The Washington Post is only using Pinocchio as political firewood and is fanning the flame.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Quiet
9  charger 383    one week ago

Taxpayers can't get formula for their babies, but their tax dollars are buying it for illegals.    That is just wrong!

 
 
 
Snuffy
Senior Guide
10  Snuffy    one week ago

Did anybody happen to catch Psaki's last press conference today?  She stated that the administration had been working on the baby formula shortage for months now.  Have to ask, if they've been working on it for months and the shortage has gotten progressively worse over the past months, just who the hell is in charge of the team working on this?  If you are working on solving a problem and the problem just gets progressively worse, isn't that a good indication that what ever  you are doing is just wrong and you need to do something different?

The White House has not provided a timeline for when shelves will be restocked, though press secretary Jen Psaki maintained Thursday that the government has been working "for months" on this issue as they roll out new steps aimed at alleviating the problem.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Freshman Guide
11  Right Down the Center    one week ago

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