Hillary Clinton Did It

  

Category:  Op/Ed

Via:  vic-eldred  •  one month ago  •  109 comments

By:   The Editorial Board (WSJ)

Hillary Clinton Did It
Her 2016 campaign manager says she approved a plan to plant a false Russia claim with a reporter.

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T



The Russia-Trump collusion narrative of 2016 and beyond was a dirty trick for the ages, and now we know it came from the top—candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton. That was the testimony Friday by 2016 Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook in federal court, and while this news is hardly a surprise, it's still bracing to find her fingerprints on the political weapon.

Mr. Mook testified as a witness in special counsel John Durham's trial of Michael Sussmann, the lawyer accused of lying to the FBI. In September 2016, Mr. Sussmann took claims of a secret Trump connection to Russia's Alfa Bank to the FBI and said he wasn't acting on behalf of any client. Prosecutors say he was working for the Clinton campaign.

Prosecutors presented evidence this week that Mr. Sussmann worked with cyber-researchers and opposition-research firm Fusion GPS to produce the claims on behalf of the Clinton campaign, and to feed them to the FBI. An FBI agent testified that a bureau analysis quickly rejected the claims as implausible. (Mr. Sussmann has pleaded not guilty.)

Prosecutors asked Mr. Mook about his role in funneling the Alfa Bank claims to the press. Mr. Mook admitted the campaign lacked expertise to vet the data, yet the decision was made by Mr. Mook, policy adviser Jake Sullivan (now President Biden’s national security adviser), communications director Jennifer Palmieri and campaign chairman John Podesta to give the Alfa Bank claims to a reporter. Mr. Mook said Mrs. Clinton was asked about the plan and approved it. A story on the Trump-Alfa Bank allegations then appeared in Slate, a left-leaning online publication.

On Oct. 31, 2016, Mr. Sullivan issued a statement mentioning the Slate story, writing, “This could be the most direct link yet between  Donald Trump  and Moscow.” Mrs. Clinton tweeted Mr. Sullivan’s statement with the comment: “Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank.” “Apparently” is doing a lot of work in that sentence.

In short, the Clinton campaign created the Trump-Alfa allegation, fed it to a credulous press that failed to confirm the allegations but ran with them anyway, then promoted the story as if it was legitimate news. The campaign also delivered the claims to the FBI, giving journalists another excuse to portray the accusations as serious and perhaps true.

Most of the press will ignore this news, but the Russia-Trump narrative that Mrs. Clinton sanctioned did enormous harm to the country. It disgraced the FBI, humiliated the press, and sent the country on a three-year investigation to nowhere.  Vladimir Putin  never came close to doing as much disinformation damage.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    one month ago

For most with a rational functioning brain, there never was any doubt.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago

Yep, lots of rotted brains out there.    
Rotted by liberal/progressive propaganda and TDS.

 
 
 
JBB
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2  JBB    one month ago

The CIA and FBI had been investigating Trump's Russian connections for years prior to the Fall of 2016!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2    one month ago

R-i-g-h-t.

Because you say so.

That particular farce is getting really, really stale.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    one month ago
That particular farce is getting really, really stale.

It's sad.  Imagine lying over and over thinking you are helping to cover for a politician. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @2    one month ago

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riiiiiiigghht

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.3  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @2    one month ago

Still lying about the CIA I see ..... sad!

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.4  1stwarrior  replied to  JBB @2    one month ago

Lemme see - does "click-click-click-click" sound familiar?  That's what a broken record sounds like, and that has been the sound you've been emitting for a while with ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF to provide.

Aw well, eh?

 
 
 
JBB
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2.4.1  JBB  replied to  1stwarrior @2.4    one month ago

The proof has been provided numerous times...

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.4.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.4.1    one month ago

That silly meme doesn't prove whatever you think it does.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.4.3  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @2.4.2    one month ago

Well, they picked a representative spokesman that’s for sure.    Out of touch with the regular American, crazy and unbalanced ...... very representative of that lot .....

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.4.4  1stwarrior  replied to  JBB @2.4.1    one month ago

People across the political spectrum rated Insider as  Lean Left  on average in a Feb. 2022 AllSides Blind Bias Survey .  

Yup - good source to not prove your point.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.4.5  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @2.4.1    one month ago

Your meme is just as full a shit as every other time you have used it.

Putin could give a rats ass about Trump. He was out to divide the US; and Hillary and the Dems proved more than willing patsies. 

The Russians were also accused of promoting discord after the election by simultaneously holding New York rallies, one in support of Trump’s victory and another under the name “Trump is NOT my President!” according to an indictment released Friday by U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller. There was a separate post-election, anti-Trump rally in Charlotte, North Carolina.

July 9, 2016: Washington, DC

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Demonstrators with Black Lives Matter march during a protest in Washington, DC on July 9, 2016. Joshua Roberts/Reuters

Around June 2016, the Russians started using a Facebook group called "United Muslims of America" to promote an upcoming rally in DC: "Support Hillary. Save American Muslims."

During that rally, they allegedly paid a real American to hold a sign portraying Clinton alongside a quote: "I think Sharia Law will be a powerful new direction of freedom."

November 12-19, 2016: New York and North Carolina

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Michael Moore, a left-leaning documentary filmmaker, attended an anti-Trump rally in New York on November 12, 2016. The event was allegedly organized by Russians. Twitter

Russian interference didn't end with Trump's election victory.

Shortly after the November vote, the Russians helped organize several pro-Trump rallies at the same time they organized anti-Trump protests, calling on people to object to the election results.

On November 12, the Russians helped coordinate an anti-Trump rally that drew as many as 25,000 people, according to NBC News .

Fox News reported that Michael Moore, the prominent documentary filmmaker who strongly opposes Trump, attended that rally.

About a week later, the Russians organized a protest called "Charlotte Against Trump" in North Carolina.

These rallies represented just a fraction of the dozens of other rallies that took place in cities across the US after Trump's victory.

And to quote the Democrat savior Barack Obama, "Not one vote in the 2016 election was changed or altered". 

The left like to scream about fake news; false narratives; and "disinformation". That "facts have a liberal bias". That is because leftist facts are full of shit they made up themselves; and have repeated so often they fully believe them. Reality be damn!

Jump up and down, scream, yell, and throw a tantrum. It will never change the fact that Hillary and the Democrats used the US government to spy on a political opponent; and then used the power of the government to investigated an entire administration and everyone surrounding them searching for information that might give their "Trump colluded with Russia narrative" even the tiniest shred of substance. They came up with jack shit of nothing. Just like all of their other attempts to "get Trump". During the process they used the FBI and DOJ to entrap witnesses; and force testimony- and they still couldn't come up with shit!

Hillary did Putin's work far better than he ever could have; and it didn't cost a penny. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.4.6  Sparty On  replied to  Ronin2 @2.4.5    one month ago

Moore in front of a Five Guys?

How apropos.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3  Texan1211    one month ago

Pretty damn funny her own campaign manager told the truth about her!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @3    one month ago

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1stwarrior
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3.1.1  1stwarrior  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1    one month ago

Removed for Context

 
 
 
arkpdx
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3.1.2  arkpdx  replied to  1stwarrior @3.1.1    one month ago

Removed for Context

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    one month ago

"Most of the press will ignore this news, but the Russia-Trump narrative that Mrs. Clinton sanctioned did enormous harm to the country. It disgraced the FBI, humiliated the press, and sent the country on a three-year investigation to nowhere.   Vladimir Putin   never came close to doing as much disinformation damage."

Sums it up perfectly.

 
 
 
JBB
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4.1  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    one month ago

As if Trump's Russian dealings were not well known and widely reported by the Fall of 2016. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @4.1    one month ago

I have to laugh at people who think is some sort of innocent. How deluded can people be? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    one month ago
I have to laugh at people who think is some sort of innocent.

As usual, I will assume you are referring to Trump.

What is he guilty of?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.2    one month ago
What is he guilty of?

Its sad that someone could be living in America for the last 6 or 7 years and not know what he is guilty of. 

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Sean Treacy
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4.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    one month ago

Okay commander burge.  As long you think someone is guilty of something, somewhere, the rules go out the window, huh?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.4    one month ago
Okay commander burge.  As long you think someone is guilty of something, somewhere, the rules go out the window, huh?

Don't bother.

After all these years, when pressed for what crimes Trump has committed, the left has zilch.

And that is with Hillary "helping"!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    one month ago
Its sad that someone could be living in America for the last 6 or 7 years and not know what he is guilty of. 

I won't indulge in your fantasy of crimes you think Trump has committed.

You can't list even a single conviction, can you?

I remember what Reagan said.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    one month ago
Its sad that someone could be living in America for the last 6 or 7 years and not know what he is guilty of.

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif What he's guilty of.  jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

You do realize there has to be evidence and a trial to find somebody "guilty".  So far you've failed across the board on that.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    one month ago

At this point, the Trump was right proclamation is going to need it's own monument.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.9  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @4.1    one month ago

Ironically, it was the defense that outed Clinton!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.1.10  Greg Jones  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.9    one month ago

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.11  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.10    one month ago

Oh yes, I love this quote:

"The Russia-Trump collusion narrative of 2016 and beyond was a dirty trick for the ages, and now we know it came from the top—candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton. That was the testimony Friday by 2016 Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook in federal court, and while this news is hardly a surprise, it’s still bracing to find her fingerprints on the political weapon.

Mr. Mook testified as a witness in special counsel John Durham’s trial of Michael Sussmann, the lawyer accused of lying to the FBI. In September 2016, Mr. Sussmann took claims of a secret Trump connection to Russia’s Alfa Bank to the FBI and said he wasn’t acting on behalf of any client. Prosecutors say he was working for the Clinton campaign."

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.7    one month ago
What he's guilty of. 

You do realize there has to be evidence and a trial to find somebody "guilty".  So far you've failed across the board on that.

This comment is as mind numbingly dumb as it was the first 20 times you said it. 

Definition of   guilty

1 :   justly chargeable with or responsible for a usually grave breach of conduct or a crime  Does the defendant plead   guilty   or not   guilty ?
2 a :   suggesting or involving   guilt
The children exchanged   guilty   looks.
b :   aware of or suffering from guilt        guilty   consciences
If you look at definition 1 it has the word OR in it.  What the definition is telling us is that "guilty" can refer to a crime legally punishable, OR it can refer to responsible for a usually grave breach of conduct which would not necessarily result in a court verdict. 
Now look at definition 2.  guilty conscience.   If someone cheats on their wife, he very well may have a guilty conscience, but it is unlikely he has committed any legal crime. 
You dont know what you are talking about, so maybe you should stop talking. 
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.11    one month ago
"The Russia-Trump collusion narrative of 2016 and beyond was a dirty trick

The Trump campaign of 2016 colluded with the Russians. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.4    one month ago

Sean, do you think Trump is innocent?  Remember, your personal credibility is on the line with your answer. 

THREE TIMES now Trump has personally asked foreign governments to interfere in US elections Trump was running in. 2016, the Ukrainian phone call in 2019, and just a couple months ago in 2022 when he asked Putin to release whatever dirt he may have on Biden. One would have to be a moron to not see a pattern here. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.15  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.13    one month ago

We know that Putin ordered the successful Russian hack of computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party.  What  damaging info did they leak to Trump?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.16  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.14    one month ago
Sean, do you think Trump is innocent?

Can you address what the Clinton campaign did without deflecting to  Trump ?

Is there any lie or crime you won't justify if it hurts Trump?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.17  Sparty On  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.15    one month ago
We know that Putin ordered the successful Russian hack of computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party.

That was simple payback for when the Clinton interfered with his election. At least in Putin’s mind it was.

Any other explanation is simply a useful idiots folly.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.13    one month ago
The Trump campaign of 2016 colluded with the Russians. 

Funny how the Great Mueller claims that he couldn't find any evidence of collusion.

Are we to believe a man tasked to find said collusion, or a random person on the internet?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.19  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.16    one month ago
Can you address what the Clinton campaign did without deflecting to  Trump ? Is there any lie or crime you won't justify if it hurts Trump?

Rhetorical question, right?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.20  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.12    one month ago

Good boy.  You know what "or" means.  You seem to miss justly chargeable and a crime.  But lets focus on the part that talks about your opinion.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.21  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.13    one month ago
The Trump campaign of 2016 colluded with the Russians

I'll ask you since I've ask everybody else on the left and they failed to provide it -

  1. Where is the evidence that lead to charges?
  2. Exactly where in the USC is that a chargeable offense

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.22  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    one month ago

So you have nothing that he's guilty of.  Or should we believe the fiction in this:

The specific evidence Sussmann was providing demonstrated that there was an unusual connection between servers affiliated with the Trump organization and those connected to Alfa Bank—Russia's largest private financial-services company.

Wonder where she come up with that steaming pile of fictitious bullshit.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.1.23  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.13    one month ago

Please go provide your definitive evidence to Mueller and his Hillary and Obama hand picked team of sycophants. They couldn't find anything; so moved directly on to obstruction of their BS investigation.

They could really do with your vast knowledge of Trump's collusion- they spent millions of tax payer dollars and couldn't find it. The used to power of the DOJ and FBI to entrap and coerce Trump administration and campaign officials- and came up with jack shit that way as well.

What is sad is the same TDS driven leftists trotting this shit out day after day- no matter how much evidence is presented to them that they are absolutely wrong. Nothing worse than Democrats starting to believe the very bullshit they created.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.24  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.13    one month ago
The Trump campaign of 2016 colluded with the Russians.

AKA THE BIG LIE!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.25  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.24    one month ago

You think Trump is innocent, you think he doesnt lie, you think he is an ethical businessman. You sound like someone who has never read a word about him. NO ONE other than far right Trump cultists will take you seriously. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.26  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.25    one month ago
You think Trump is innocent, you think he doesnt lie, you think he is an ethical businessman.

I know he is innocent of the Russia hoax charges.  He does embellish - He can't be the greatest of everything since time began. He seemed to be an astute businessman. Here is the important thing: HE WAS A GREAT PRESIDENT!

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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4.1.27  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.26    one month ago

i never use this, but this is especially hilarious   LOL

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.28  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  igknorantzrulz @4.1.27    one month ago

More than anyone else, you can testify to Trump being innocent and serving out his term.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.29  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.12    one month ago

The desperation and of course, the TDS, is strong with you.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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4.1.30  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.28    one month ago
More than anyone else, you can testify to Trump being innocent and serving out his term.

No Vic, no more, no less, just N E 1 with an IQ near room temperature, can see for certain and sure, that ANYONE who believes Trump is innocent from communicating and being USED by Vladimeer Putin and Russia, is just unaccepting of SO MANY FACTS, SO MUCH EVIDENCE, and EVEN TRUMPS' OWN ADMISSIONS, it is cause for intuition, to not even be a factor, in such a prime, example of a lime, being fought over by citrus suppliers, of those, in need of MORE ACID ...! Cause Trump is off the ph scale, asz he can't even spell the numeric expressions used like confessions, to Bzasically admit , to a Judas PRiest, how Trump was valued the least, outb of all, short and tall, skinny and lanky, like an Olive Oil Brutus wood pursued, as Popeye waited for Tuesday, to be gone, with the wind, as it certainLy Blows better than Wimpy, B sides, he brings his A game  right B 4 people C, what D evelopment should not be pre-applied and attempted, when working to coat  and or thoroughly douse the ignited flame that burns , not the same, cept inspected, via a jeep, where we've lined our tanks, as the fish were proud, and lined their pockets with wireless marker & Lint, as not just for Lent...that somehow meant more to the wisdumb and demise of want too, yet failing , groups of gals N  guys,like vegan carnivores, meat , eat, and greet dem,ise of these guys who used their gals, to say HAY, And then Bail, till the very large 'elderly women, behind a closed door', begged, downright BEGGED for more, so she was pegged, like a bicycle whore built four , one, two, three, and possibly more, till very sore was she, asz the blood returned to her vessels as she be Christened, like to a Lying Lion,, who bit his tongue, and his own asz at the same time, as Champagne bottles broke over, oddly enuff, all their heads, as no one flipped the tails told by tall tale tellers, banking on turning the feat around, till eventually reaching another arms exchange where they tried to get a leg up off the ground, so as knot to short out, the ties that bind, when the POTUS and his gaggling flock of followers, do appear to be blind, as they are Putin and Cast, to believe and allow Russias Putin da MAN, to execute his simple plan, that like Trump, LIED back in Helsinki, as Trump bought it hooker line and sinker, over our intelligence agencies, and do you know why Trump was so damn Convinced....because Putin 'Said' HE DIDN'T DO IT ! and just like Trump, we knew neither one would, could, ever LIE to US for " what reason would he have to lie about it",. besides EVERY....???? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.31  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  igknorantzrulz @4.1.30    one month ago

An easy score: The day you said he wouldn't serve out his term!

Any predictions on the midterms?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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4.1.32  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.31    one month ago

Who could have predicted how far and low, the GOP could lower and go....

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.33  Tessylo  replied to  igknorantzrulz @4.1.32    one month ago

They haven't even reached the bottom yet . . . . . . . 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5  Jeremy Retired in NC    one month ago
“Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank.”

Gee, I wonder where she got the idea for that.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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5.1  1stwarrior  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5    one month ago

Wonder if it was in her basement?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2  Sparty On  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5    one month ago

Well, at least her useful idiots still believe her ....

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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5.2.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sparty On @5.2    one month ago

coming from the defenders of Trump, The King of the LYING POLS, accusations of others being "useful idiots" is just too ironic to not magically, and magnetically, attract the ugly, disfigured, disenfranchised of our Nation, to sit down, for their standing ovation, as they stand up for one who would, put himself and damn ugly party, head & shoulders above all those who gave life and limb as they fought for our 'Rights' , to allow open and free elections, where the will of the People, Was and Is not read, to leave all of our Countries 'Rights', to that FCKD up deranged Mental Midget Trump, the long lost nephew who was on his Neice, trying to get another Peace  OUT

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.2.1    one month ago

Time to switch to decaf friend ......

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.2    one month ago

Do you know what point he was trying to make?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.4  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.3    one month ago

He’s consciously streaming the hives programming, it’s an acquired skill to decipher ..... a skill I have acquired by reading too many of those posts here on NT. 

It’s a tough job but someone has to do it.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sparty On @5.2    one month ago

That's not saying much.  Most have a little man living rent free in their heads.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.2.1    one month ago

That's one hell of a word salad you threw up there.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.7  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.4    one month ago
It’s a tough job but someone has to do it.

I admire your fortitude and patience to do it.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.8  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.7    one month ago

Booze and drugs help .....

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7  Tessylo    one month ago

It's absolutely moronic to think that Hillary Clinton is  guilty of anything here.  You have nothing as usual.

Still waiting on the indictments of the entire Obama administration yet this is all you have.  Nothing

 
 
 
Sparty On
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7.1  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @7    one month ago
It's absolutely moronic to think that Hillary Clinton is  guilty of anything here.

The only moronic thing here is that comment

 
 
 
RU4Real
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7.2  RU4Real  replied to  Tessylo @7    one month ago

Wait, the oversized and heavy pixelated birth certificate shown on Fox wasn't enough to convince you that non-America born Muslim Obama was up to heinous crimes??  The never-put-forth sh!t-tons of  "evidence" from the never-seen agents of Drumpf didn't convince you that no-good non-Amerikkkan Obama was up to harm Amerikkka?

That cutting up and selling baby parts as toppings on Clinton pizza couldn't convince you  Hillary "Benghazi" Clinton is a no-good-nick?!?!?!  C'mon now, with all that "proof" you have to be...what's the word...intelligent...to not believe.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7    one month ago
It's absolutely moronic to think that Hillary Clinton is  guilty of anything here.

It's too late. Mook spilled the beans.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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8  bbl-1    one month ago

Clinton's claim is not false.  The only falsehood is anything connected to Trump.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  bbl-1 @8    one month ago
Clinton's claim is not false.  The only falsehood is anything connected to Trump.

Exactly, Trump is a lier while Hillary is just inauthentic and dishonest.  She has amused us for years with tales of commodities trading, the White House travel staff, Vince Foster’s suicide and bimbo eruptions.  She has grown her policy positions from free trade to gay marriage. And don’t get us started on her private email server or Trump’s Russian problem.  

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Guide
8.1.1  1stwarrior  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1    one month ago

Don't forget the assassination attempt while getting off the plane in Bosnia.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
8.1.2  bbl-1  replied to  1stwarrior @8.1.1    one month ago

Of course.  So---------Were the Trump kids lying when they said Trump businesses did not need funding from US banks because (they) were getting all of the money they needed from Russia and the Saudi Dynasty?

Were the Trump kids lying?  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
8.1.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1.2    one month ago
Were the Trump kids lying?

What can you do with Hunter, or Donald Jr?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
8.1.4  bbl-1  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.3    one month ago

Answer the question.  Take your deflections and stick them up your arse.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
8.1.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1.4    one month ago
Answer the question.m

What question did you ask me?

Take your deflections and stick them up your arse.

Deflections?  Why are you so hostile l?

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Guide
8.1.6  1stwarrior  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1.2    one month ago

Not even close to responding to my comment - nice try though.

 
 
 
Gulliver
Freshman Guide
8.1.7  Gulliver  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1    one month ago

And lets not forget how the Clinton Foundation was a tin cup to curry favor with a future president. Donations to the foundation dried up after Clinton lost in 2016.

I still think she would have been a better president than Trump, though.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1.4    one month ago

I second that!!!!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Gulliver @8.1.7    one month ago

There is absolutely  no doubt about that.  

Whatshisname didn't do dick except line his pockets.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
8.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.8    one month ago
I second that

You're in second place a lot.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
8.1.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.9    one month ago
There is absolutely  no doubt about that.

Wow, you recognize that the Clinton Foundation was a tin cup to curry favor.  There is hope for you yet, Tess.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.10    one month ago

See 8.1.4.  Second sentence.

Wash

Rinse

Repeat

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.11    one month ago
"I still think she would have been a better president than Trump, though."

"There is absolutely no doubt about that."

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
8.1.14  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.13    one month ago

I must admit, she would have better than the dimbulb we have in the WH right now but better than Trump?

Nope, not even close.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.15  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @8.1.14    one month ago

I'll bet many are wondering how they came to vote for Biden and against themselves.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
8.1.16  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.15    one month ago

Yep, every time they fill their car up, every time they go to the grocery store, every time they go out to eat, every time they pay a utility bill, etc, etc, etc

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.17  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @8.1.16    one month ago

They can't even remember what the other guy said that was so terrible.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
8.1.18  bbl-1  replied to  1stwarrior @8.1.6    one month ago

This seed is about Clinton's accusations that Trump has dealings with Russia.  

I ask again.  Were the Trump kids lying when they said the Trump businesses did not need American Bank's financing because they (the Trump businesses) were getting all the money they needed from Russia and The Saudi Dynasty?  Were the kids lying or not?

I commented on the story.  Not you.  You are not relevant to the story.  Only the story is relevant. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
8.1.19  bbl-1  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.5    one month ago

Read 8.1.2.  Hostile?  No, just tired of deflective stupidity or an inability to carry on a constructive debate.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
8.1.20  bbl-1  replied to  Gulliver @8.1.7    one month ago

False.  The Clinton Foundation still stands.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
8.1.21  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1.19    one month ago
Were the Trump kids lying when they said the Trump businesses did not need American Bank's financing because they (the Trump businesses) were getting all the money they needed from Russia and The Saudi Dynasty? 

How would I or you really know?  Which kid?  Multiple statements or a one time thing?  When?  I thought they borrowed money from Deutsche Bank.

tired of deflective stupidity or an inability to carry on a constructive debate.

You think that your question without background, context or cited statements is constructive?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
8.1.22  bbl-1  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.21    one month ago

Were the kids lying?  You can't grasp the question?  What in the holy hell are you doing here?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
8.1.23  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1.22    one month ago
Were the kids lying? 

I don't have access to the business ledger.

You can't grasp the question? 

I understand the question, just not the background, context which kid etc.

What in the holy hell are you doing here

Being amused by you pretentions of a constructive debate.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
8.1.24  bbl-1  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.23    one month ago

Never saw the videos.  OK.  You don't know and don't know that you don't know.  End of story.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
8.1.25  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1.24    one month ago

Dam, and I so much wanted to participate in that constructive debate your looking for.  I’m sorry that you gave up so easily.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
8.1.26  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1.4    one month ago

Why do you want things in my arse?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
8.1.27  bbl-1  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.25    one month ago

Congratulations.  You, along with two others on this forum are on my 'personal ignore'.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
8.1.28  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1.27    one month ago

I don’t know that I can handle that notoriety.   

 
 
 
Gulliver
Freshman Guide
8.1.29  Gulliver  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1.20    one month ago

I did not say the Clinton Foundation ceased to exist.

I said donations sharply declined after Hillary Clinton lost her election bid in 2016.

 
 
 
arkpdx
PhD Participates
8.1.30  arkpdx  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1.27    one month ago

Am I one of the other two? I would be so honored. If not can I be number three?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
8.1.31  bbl-1  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.30    one month ago

No.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
8.1.32  bbl-1  replied to  Gulliver @8.1.29    one month ago

Yes, donations declined.  Clinton Foundation still exists and continues the work it was doing.

Trump Foundation on the other hand is shut down, has paid massive fines, with more fines being litigated and is barred from anything and everything.

 
 
 
Gulliver
Freshman Guide
8.1.33  Gulliver  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1.32    one month ago

The point is that the motivation to curry favor with a future president by donating to their foundation was no longer operative.

Why are you bringing up Trump? Do you think anyone doesn't know he is a con artist? Even the Qanon Shaman knows Trump is a huckster.

Trump once used his "foundation" to pay the registration fee to the Boy Scouts for his son Barron. Can you imagine how pathological you have to be in order to tell someone to pay the Boy Scouts out of your fake foundation?

Me? I like my politicians without shady foundations. Having said that, I voted for Hillary several times. She was my hometown Senator in addition to being my party's presidential candidate. Between the primaries and the general elections I must have voted for her around a half dozen times.

But I have no illusions about the Clintons.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
9  Drinker of the Wry    one month ago

Bravery under fire.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
9.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @9    one month ago

Was that Trump, in his own personal Viet Nam Hell, as he had to worry about venereal diseases while banging pornstars and prostitutes in the 70;s, all while carrying the heavy burden of bone spurs, that if he could remember which foot, could affect his ability to Bronco Bust one of those Bitches....

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
9.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  igknorantzrulz @9.1    one month ago

Exactly, both Trump and Biden, like Bill Clinton, found ways to avoid Vietnam.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
9.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @9.1.1    one month ago

And they'll only "discuss" Trump DoD approved Viet Nam waiver.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10  seeder  Vic Eldred    one month ago

Devin Nunes: 'We all knew' Hillary was involved:

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https:// bit.ly/38GsP22

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
10.1  bbl-1  replied to  Vic Eldred @10    one month ago

Involved in what?  She was not at Helsinki.  Or laid her hands on the Saudi Golden Globe.  Or did the Saudi Sword Dance with Melania present, being the only woman there and not in head-to-toe Islamic female dress.

 
 

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