San Francisco votes overwhelmingly to recall progressive DA Chesa Boudin - CBS News

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  3 weeks ago  •  67 comments

By:   Musadiq Bidar (CBSPolitics)

San Francisco votes overwhelmingly to recall progressive DA Chesa Boudin - CBS News
He's been considered one of the most progressive DAs in the nation but crime has surged under his watch and residents apparently blame him.

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San Francisco residents voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to recall District Attorney Chesa Boudin, one of the nation's most progressive top prosecutors.

Partial results from the San Francisco Department of Elections on Tuesday night showed the recall measure - also known as Proposition H - had the support of nearly 60% of voters, with 40% voting against it.

Boudin sought to reform the criminal justice system, ending the use of cash bail, stopping the prosecution of minors as adults, and focused on lowering jail populations amid the COVID-19 pandemic. Boudin also became the first San Francisco DA to file homicide charges against city police officers.

At an election night gathering, Boudin told his supporters he is just getting started in the push for criminal justice reform.

"We have two cities. We have two systems of justice. We have one for the wealthy and the well-connected and a different one for everybody else. And that's exactly what we are fighting to change," he said.

"We know that this is a system that has systematically failed us, not just for decades, but for generations."

San Francisco Mayor Landon Breed will choose Boudin's replacement.

Whoever is appointed will have to run in the general election to fill the remainder of Boudin's term, which was to last through 2023.

Proponents of the recall claimed Boudin — a longtime public defender — wasn't prosecuting criminals aggressively and said his instituting progressive policies was putting the safety of residents at risk. They spent over $7 million blasting that message to voters in San Francisco throughout the course of the campaign.

"This election does not mean that San Francisco has drifted to the far right on our approach to criminal justice," Mary Jung, a chair of the recall campaign, said in a statement. "In fact, San Francisco has been a national beacon for progressive criminal justice reform for decades and will continue to do so with new leadership."

Momentum to recall Boudin picked up steam throughout 2021 as hate crimes against Asian Americans in San Francisco increased dramatically and victims blamed Boudin, saying he was siding with criminals. Recall supporters also pointed to car break-ins and viral smash-and-grab robberies at major retail stores, claiming they were becoming common occurrences as consequences of Boudin's policies.

Boudin's team maintained throughout the campaign that there was no direct correlation between the spike in some crimes and the DA's policies. But Tuesday night's results indicate voters didn't buy that message.

The recall in San Francisco could have implications for other progressive, reform-minded prosecutors across the country. Boudin narrowly won in 2019 as progressive prosecutors pledged to focus on alternatives to incarceration and hold police officers accountable.

In Los Angeles, organizers are now close to gathering enough signatures to force a recall vote for their district attorney, George Gascon. He was elected in 2020 and previously served as San Francisco's DA. His resignation and subsequent move to Southern California paved the way for Boudin to take office.

There are still votes to count and election results will need to be certified before Breed gets to appoint a replacement.

Breed has not officially weighed in on the DA recall. In October 2019, Breed appointed Susie Loftus, the former president of the San Francisco Police Commission, as the interim DA following Gascon's resignation.

During that November's election, Boudin got 36% of the support in the initial count, but San Francisco's ranked-choice voting system propelled him to victory over Loftus by fewer than 3,000 votes.

Last month, District Two Supervisor Catherine Stefani became the first elected official in the city to endorse the recall. Multiple political operatives involved with the recall effort told CBS News that Stefani would likely be considered by Breed as a potential replacement.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

"Boudin was born in  New York City  to  Jewish  parents. [7]  His parents,  Kathy Boudin  and  David Gilbert , were  Weather Underground  members. When Boudin was 14 months old, both were arrested and convicted of murder for their role as getaway car drivers in the  Brink's robbery of 1981  in  Rockland County, New York . [8]  His mother was sentenced to 20 years to life and his father to 75 years to life for the  felony murders  of two police officers and a security guard. [9] [10]

After his parents were incarcerated, Boudin was raised in Chicago by adoptive parents  Bill Ayers  and  Bernardine Dohrn , who, like his parents, had been members of the  Weather Underground . [11]  Boudin reports that he did not learn to read until age nine. [12]  Kathy Boudin was released under parole supervision in 2003. [13] [14]"



The liberals of San Fransisco elected him and even they couldn't endure their own ideology in action!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2  Drinker of the Wry    3 weeks ago

Last night Boudin observed that his recall campaign “exploited an environment in which people are appropriately upset.  They were given an opportunity to voice their frustration and their outrage, and they took that opportunity.”

You think?

 
 
 
squiggy
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2.1  squiggy  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2    3 weeks ago

"Alex, I'll take 'Things That Biden Would Say' for $500."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2    3 weeks ago

It took somebody like him to sober up the indoctrinated voters of SF.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3  Jeremy Retired in NC    3 weeks ago
"In fact, San Francisco has been a national beacon for progressive criminal justice reform for decades and will continue to do so with new leadership."

And it put Boudin in as it's DA.  That's not a "beacon" anybody wants.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3    3 weeks ago

Just another tragedy for California. What a terrible state!

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    3 weeks ago

You have never been to California and you know absolutely nothing about California.  It is the richest, most diverse, most beautiful state in the country with the most creative, hard-working and forward-thinking people.

You live in a state of denial and delusion.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.1    3 weeks ago

Here is what I know:

California has the ninth -highest combined state and local sales taxes in the country. It may not effect you but it hits the middle class and the poor. Recently CA slapped an additional sales tax on goods that residents purchase on-line from out of state sellers. Those taxes brought CA a temporary budget surplus. Back in 2020 CA exhausted it's reserves and piled up the largest budget deficit in the country.

California is home to the nation's largest population of illegal immigrants and homeless people. The state secretary of state doesn't even know how many of them are voting!

California is among the worst states for education and infrastructure.

SF ranks first in the nation among cities in property crimes per capita.

The massive ruins of the state's partially built and now cancelled/postponed multi-billion-dollar high-speed rail system are covered with graffiti.

CA now has a massive water problem because it hasn't built a major reservoir in decades. It is totally dependent on massive transfers from the California water project. The far left ideology holds that  dams and reservoirs are scars on the landscape. So the people are in need of water.

California has the highest gas taxes in the nation with further gas taxes scheduled for the next decade.

And last but not least, CA has lost it's once thriving middle class. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.1    3 weeks ago
You have never been to California and you know absolutely nothing about California.

Pretty fucking presumptuous.  

It is the richest,

But will come crying for taxpayer money when the state burns to the ground year after year.

most diverse, most beautiful state in the country

Are you implying the rest of the country doesn't have the same diverse people or are barren waste lands?

with the most creative, hard-working and forward-thinking people.

All from the state that gave us Harvey Weinstein.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    3 weeks ago

It's a liberal shit hole. Really not surprising.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.1.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.3    3 weeks ago
All from the state that gave us Harvey Weinstein.

? That fat disgusting sexual predator was born and raised in New York, just like that other fat disgusting sexual predator Donald Trump.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.1.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.4    3 weeks ago
It's a liberal shit hole.

I'll try and meditate about that when I walk down and have lunch on the beach this afternoon...

R.81264a975388545f8beaf0cfef57ac03?rik=GaaOCLVcNCfGdw&riu=http%3a%2f%2fdishadiscovers.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2021%2f02%2fcarmel-by-the-sea-beach-towns-in-california.jpg&ehk=2%2bgISMlfx8TdJ4S1OI1KWaDVrA4YGDECERdiDgbhxc0%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

If this is a shithole, then I can't imagine what heaven must be like...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.6    3 weeks ago

Just make sure you don't sit on the crackheads syringe.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.1    3 weeks ago
with the most creative, hard-working and forward-thinking people.

Is the state still losing population like in 2020 and 2021?  Are there any Black people left in San Francisco?

 
 
 
arkpdx
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3.1.9  arkpdx  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.6    3 weeks ago

Ever been  to South Central L.A.? How about East L.A?  Hunters Point?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.4    3 weeks ago
It's a liberal shit hole.

At least SF provides a poop app so you know were not to step on the crappy streets.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.11  Kavika   replied to  arkpdx @3.1.9    3 weeks ago
Ever been  to South Central L.A.? How about East L.A?  Hunters Point?

All of the above and lived in Boyle Heights in ELA for a number of years. One of my favorite restaurants, El Tepeyac on Evergreen,  been serving fine Mexican food since the 1950s. 

512

You ever spent anytime there guey?

 
 
 
arkpdx
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3.1.12  arkpdx  replied to  Kavika @3.1.11    3 weeks ago

I lived in Pico Rivera when I was a kid. .I know Whittier, Montebello and east LA  MY BIL was born and raised east LA. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.13  Kavika   replied to  arkpdx @3.1.12    3 weeks ago

Pico Rivera, anywhere near the old Ford plant on Telegraph? On Sunday morning would head out to Whittier Blvd for some menudo to clear our heads.

Eres Mexicano?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.14  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  arkpdx @3.1.12    3 weeks ago

Is his first name Cheech?

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.15  Kavika   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.14    3 weeks ago

Love Cheech and Chong, but this is what it's all about. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.16  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Kavika @3.1.15    3 weeks ago

Perfect.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.17  Gsquared  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.7    3 weeks ago

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Gsquared
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3.1.18  Gsquared  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.8    3 weeks ago

With 40,000,000 people, no one is the least bit upset if the population decreases a bit.  Mostly, they are red state immigrants returning home.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.19  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    3 weeks ago
California is among the worst states for education and infrastructure.
CA has lost it's once thriving middle class

Not true.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.20  Gsquared  replied to  arkpdx @3.1.9    3 weeks ago
Ever been to South Central L.A.? How about East L.A?

Many times.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.21  Gsquared  replied to  Kavika @3.1.11    3 weeks ago
One of my favorite restaurants, El Tepeyac

One of mine, too!

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.22  Gsquared  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.6    3 weeks ago

Beautiful!  That looks like Carmel.  Heaven on Earth.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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3.1.23  arkpdx  replied to  Kavika @3.1.13    3 weeks ago

I lived like one block from Rosemead and Whittier. 

jestem Polakiem

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.24  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.22    3 weeks ago
That looks like Carmel.  Heaven on Earth.

You must have never tried to drive there in the summer. 

If you're interested I saw a 2 Bed, 1 bath, 992 sq ft on a 4,000 sq ft lot on Monte Verde for only $2.1M

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.25  Kavika   replied to  arkpdx @3.1.23    3 weeks ago
jestem Polakiem

Not a lot of Poles in PR. Do you know the Los Nietos area?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.26  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.18    3 weeks ago
Mostly, they are red state immigrants returning home.

It's surprising then that they ever moved into the Bay area.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.27  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.18    3 weeks ago
With 40,000,000 people, no one is the least bit upset if the population decreases a bit. 

Didn't they lose their first Congressional seat?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.28  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.19    3 weeks ago

Is income inequality still growing there faster than the national average?  I saw that the state had the highest rate of poverty at 15.4%, as measured by the Census Bureau’s supplemental poverty measure.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.29  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.17    3 weeks ago

I saw that housing affordability, as measured by the number of Californians who could afford a median-priced, single-family home, hit 23% in the second quarter of 2021, according to the California Association of Realtors. But why buy if you only staying there awhile.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.30  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.20    3 weeks ago

Nearly one in six (16.4%) Californians were not in poverty but lived fairly close to the poverty line (up to one and a half times above it). All told, more than a third (34.0%) of state residents were poor or near poor in 2019. The share of Californians in families with less than half the resources needed to meet basic needs (the deep poverty rate) was 4.6%.

Did that get better or worse during COVID?

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.31  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.26    3 weeks ago

Most of them are in the central valley, northern CA, north of the Bay Area and the Inland Empire.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.32  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.27    3 weeks ago
Didn't they lose their first Congressional seat?

Yes

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.33  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.29    3 weeks ago
I saw that housing affordability, as measured by the number of Californians who could afford a median-priced, single-family home, hit 23% in the second quarter of 2021, according to the California Association of Realtors. But why buy if you only staying there awhile.

Great news, my townhouse in HB is worth millions now.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.34  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.30    3 weeks ago
All told, more than a third (34.0%) of state residents were poor or near poor in 2019. The share of Californians in families with less than half the resources needed to meet basic needs (the deep poverty rate) was 4.6%. Did that get better or worse during COVID?

The poverty rates for 2022 are as follows

CA isn't close to the top.

Are you aware that the GNP of CA is $3.4 trillion no other state is close to that. Additionally, they are number one in agriculture, number seven in oil production. Number one is tourism and then there is Silicon Valley and the major international ports. 

All and all they seem to be in fairly good shape.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.35  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @3.1.33    3 weeks ago
Great news, my townhouse in HB is worth millions now.

That's great for you and bad for those younger.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.36  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @3.1.31    3 weeks ago
Most of them are in the central valley,

Well screw them then, rednecks.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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3.1.37  arkpdx  replied to  Kavika @3.1.25    3 weeks ago

Nope. Never heard of it. We moved to Canoga Park after about a year. I was about 11yrs old

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.38  Kavika   replied to  arkpdx @3.1.37    3 weeks ago

It's right on the edge of Whittier, it's one of the oldest Spanish land grants in CA.

Canoga Park, one end of LA to the other.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.39  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @3.1.33    3 weeks ago
Great news, my townhouse in HB is worth millions no

Yes, California is great place to be  rich and the very poor.  Its designed to be that  be that way. Land use restrictions make sure not enough homes are built and so housing is always at a premium. Affordable housing is the street corner. 

 It's why California has  the highest poverty rate is perennially among the leader in income inequality. Great for you, sucks for the middle class who are leaving the state in doves. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.40  Gsquared  replied to  Kavika @3.1.15    3 weeks ago

Native Son.  That's me!  Los Angeles is the greatest city in the world.  I have traveled to many wonderful places around the globe, but there is no place like our town.

Love Los Lobos, too.

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.41  Ender  replied to  Kavika @3.1.34    3 weeks ago

Mississippi...Number one again...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.1.42  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.22    3 weeks ago
That looks like Carmel.

That it is. That spot on the beach is five blocks from my office.

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.43  Ender  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.42    3 weeks ago

I didn't know you were a Californian. Was there when I was really young. I just remember the water was cold.  Haha

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.44  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    3 weeks ago

Fun with internet collected statistics.

However, every paradise has its dark side. We’ve uncovered some of the most shocking and depressing facts about Massachusetts, and they will definitely make your eyes widen.
1. According to the Insurance Research Council, Massachusetts drivers really are the worst. Massachusetts leads the nation in motor vehicle insurance claims.

2. Massachusetts has the second highest suicide rate in the nation, according to the National Center for Health Statistics. New York is the only state with a higher rate.
3. Massachusetts was the first state in the nation to ban “happy hour.”
4. Massachusetts has one of the highest concentrations of poor working women in the nation, according to a study by the Working Poor Families Project. The report finds that nearly half of the state’s low-income households are headed by single mothers struggling in low wage jobs.
5. A shocking 85 percent of crimes on Cape Cod are opiate-drug related. In fact, HBO recently released a documentary entitled "Heroin: Cape Cod, U.S.A."
6. Massachusetts has TWO of the Top Ten Worst Zoos for Elephants in North America, according to an international animal protection organization. Buttonwood Zoo ranked 5th worst, and Southwick Zoo came in 10th place.
7. According to the most recent data, almost 25 percent of adults in Massachusetts are obese.
8. The city of Boston ranks 8th in the nation when it comes to Googling depression-related terms, according to Google Trends.
9. Of the top 50 most violent cities and towns in Massachusetts, nine belonged to Worcester County. This is according to the latest FBI crime statistics.
10. Forbes ranked recently Massachusetts as the 5th worst state in the nation for retirement.
11. Massachusetts has three of the worst highway  the country, according to the The American Highway Users Alliance.
12. Massachusetts ranks among the lowest states in the nation when it comes to giving its citizens access to state documents and public records. This ranking comes from the Center for Public Integrity, a nonprofit, nonpartisan investigative news organization.
 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.45  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.39    3 weeks ago

I have heard that carrier pigeons really resent being called 'doves'.

/s

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.46  Split Personality  replied to  Ender @3.1.43    3 weeks ago

Good advice, don't swim in the Pacific above Monterey.

If the sharks or Orcas don't get you the hypothermia will.

Quickly

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.47  Ender  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.46    3 weeks ago

There was a vid a while back where some people on their boat filmed a seal that was being chased by orcas and the seal jumped on their boat. They started to freak out as the orcas circled the boat.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.48  Gsquared  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.42    3 weeks ago

You are so lucky.  Carmel is a place of unsurpassed beauty.  I've thought about moving there many times.  It may happen some day, except that I love where I live so much.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.1.49  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Ender @3.1.43    3 weeks ago
I didn't know you were a Californian.

Technically I'm a buckeye, born and raised in Ohio but moved to CA about 30 years ago now. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.50  Kavika   replied to  Split Personality @3.1.44    3 weeks ago

Seems that they are having another type of problem as well:

It is happening here: Massachusetts has a growing neo-Nazi movement

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.51  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.39    3 weeks ago

So I take it you won't be moving to California but will stay with the cheeseheads.

Good to know.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.52  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.44    3 weeks ago

Massachusetts is another blue state. I'm not like some people. I don't defend where I live like it's some kind of sports team.

So let's continue:

1. According to the Insurance Research Council, Massachusetts drivers really are the worst.

In RI they call them "Mass holes."


2. Massachusetts has the second highest suicide rate in the nation, according to the National Center for Health Statistics. New York is the only state with a higher rate.

Interesting.


3. Massachusetts was the first state in the nation to ban “happy hour.”

And we close bars in Boston at 2 AM.  The T used to close at 1 AM.


4. Massachusetts has one of the highest concentrations of poor working women in the nation, according to a study by the Working Poor Families Project. The report finds that nearly half of the state’s low-income households are headed by single mothers struggling in low wage jobs.

It has to be up there with CA, yet MA has nowhere near the poverty level of CA. MA is one of the states with the highest levels of income.


5. A shocking 85 percent of crimes on Cape Cod are opiate-drug related. In fact, HBO recently released a documentary entitled "Heroin: Cape Cod, U.S.A."

I'll bet. And don't bother taking your little kids to Provincetown. There are some novel sights there.


6. Massachusetts has TWO of the Top Ten Worst Zoos for Elephants in North America, according to an international animal protection organization. Buttonwood Zoo ranked 5th worst, and Southwick Zoo came in 10th place.

In the words of Norm Macdonald: "Oh Lord!"


7. According to the most recent data, almost 25 percent of adults in Massachusetts are obese.

MA is top heavy with professional people who sit on their asses all day.


8. The city of Boston ranks 8th in the nation when it comes to Googling depression-related terms, according to Google Trends.

How will the state live that down?


9. Of the top 50 most violent cities and towns in Massachusetts, nine belonged to Worcester County. This is according to the latest FBI crime statistics.

Worcester County contains Worcester (the states second largest city). Gee, I wonder what kind of population can be found there?


10. Forbes ranked recently Massachusetts as the 5th worst state in the nation for retirement.

It's very expensive, like all blue states.


11. Massachusetts has three of the worst highway  the country, according to the The American Highway Users Alliance.

Right up there with CA's neglected freeways.


12. Massachusetts ranks among the lowest states in the nation when it comes to giving its citizens access to state documents and public records. This ranking comes from the Center for Public Integrity, a nonprofit, nonpartisan investigative news organization.

Now there's something to ponder.


Let me clue you in: There are only two reasons why I haven't moved to Florida: One is 5 years old and the other 4. 

One other thing: Your sorry defense of the peoples republic of California has failed dramatically.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.53  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.5    3 weeks ago
That fat disgusting sexual predator was born and raised in New York,

A worked in the culture of California.  I'll give you credit for trying.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.54  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.10    3 weeks ago

You know it's a shitty city when they have an app like that.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.55  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.52    3 weeks ago
One other thing: Your sorry defense of the peoples republic of California has failed dramatically.

It wasn't a defense.  It was a lesson for your few devoted readers;

just like your asinine condemnation of a state you have never lived in,

all you did was collect bias political BS to bolster your evil opinions

of people you imagine to be defective.

It's easy. Anyone who can ask the question correctly, can find whatever

negative tripe they want on the internet to condemn another state. 

It's easy.  It proves nothing except your intolerance and lack of objectivity.

I am sure I proved that point pretty clearly.

At least I served my 3 years in California and have the memories,

good and bad and indifferent

Let me clue you in: There are only two reasons why I haven't moved to Florida: One is 5 years old and the other 4.

Sounds like a weak excuse.  Move to Florida, abandon the snow, the cold 

and the greyness.  You will do yourself  and your family a service.

Break those old habits, you will be rejuvenated by both the weather and the

Floridians in spite of their politics.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.56  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.52    3 weeks ago
In RI they call them "Mass holes."

I enjoyed that.

I spent TDY time in RI and found all of them to be Americans, first & foremost.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4  Just Jim NC TttH    3 weeks ago

I read the article and at first I thought it said preparation H instead of proposition H. They did get rid of what seems to be a major pain in the ass though so maybe the former is appropriate.

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Sean Treacy
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5  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

Progressivism met reality and progressivism lost, again.

Utopian movements that deny human nature never do well at governing. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    3 weeks ago

The progressive brand will be totally discredited for the near future.

The bad part is all the ruined lives left in it's wake.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
6  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

This is the wikipedia page of his mother:

Kathy Boudin  (May 19, 1943 – May 1, 2022) [1]  was an American  leftist  terrorist and convicted murderer. She was a member of the radical left militant organization  Weather Underground  who was convicted of  felony murder  for her role in the  1981 Brink's robbery . The robbery resulted in the killing of two  Nyack, New York , police officers and one security guard, and serious injury to another security guard. [2]  Boudin was released from prison on parole in 2003 and became an  adjunct professor  at  Columbia University . [3]

Explains so much about our country. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
7  Drinker of the Wry    3 weeks ago
CA isn't close to the top

Thanks Kavika, my fault for believing a website called Public Policy Institute of California.

 
 

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