The horror of the nation's second largest city

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  2 weeks ago  •  63 comments

The horror of the nation's second largest city
“These two heroes paid the ultimate sacrifice. Today they were murdered by a coward. And we are grieving, and it hurts,” El Monte Police Interim Chief Ben Lowry said at the briefing.

In the lawless city of Los Angeles two brave police officers were murdered Tuesday night. They were shot  while responding to a possible stabbing at a motel. There won't be many headlines informing the public of the loss of these two brave men, nor of the sad state of affairs in Los Angeles. The suspect fled the building and later died in a shootout with police.



Here is the thug's picture:

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Justin William Flores

The killer had a long record of violent crime and served two prison terms. In Flores case social justice prevailed and he was allowed to go out and slaughter two young police officers. Let us all give thanks that he no longer walks the earth.


"Flores was on probation for being a felon in possession of a firearm at the time of the deadly shooting and had previously served time in prison for vehicle theft and first-degree burglary. 

He pleaded guilty last year to that felony charge that could have sent him back to prison for three years.

Instead, he was sentenced to two years of probation and 20 days in jail and  LA County District Attorney George Gascón  is facing criticism for Flores’ plea deal. The DA is also facing a recall effort for his progressive policies."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/wife-suspect-killed-2-la-cops-warned-gun?yptr=yahoo


Another day and another injustice in the shit hole of Los Angeles.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

How did we let them have such power?

Or maybe it was 5 million non-citizens?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago

Maybe it's as a top Poker player believes:

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Hallux
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1.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago
Or maybe it was 5 million non-citizens?

This is my problem with diehard partisans, they have but one rule that dominates all others: never miss an opportunity to cast aspersions.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  Hallux @1.2    2 weeks ago

Being a diehard partisan yourself, you would know.

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2.2  Hallux  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.1    2 weeks ago

You can rightfully call me that when I start seeding articles from the far left, and that is not going to happen.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.2    2 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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1.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.3    2 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
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1.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.4    2 weeks ago

Removed for context

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.5    2 weeks ago

Removed for context

 
 
 
squiggy
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1.2.7  squiggy  replied to  Hallux @1.2    2 weeks ago

"This is my problem with diehard partisans, they have but one rule that dominates all others: never miss an opportunity to cast aspersions."

...like a gun rant on a car recall?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2  Right Down the Center    2 weeks ago

Just another day in a Democratic run city.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    2 weeks ago

And don't bother the homeless....they have rights!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    2 weeks ago

Probation for a gun related felony!

Nicely sums up the idiocy of progressives’ gun control policy.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    2 weeks ago

They need new laws that they won't enforce so people will think they are serious about gun violence.  One look at them ignoring Chicago tells you how serious they really are.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1    2 weeks ago

Chicago died during a period of dramatic change. Los Angeles kind of followed the pattern.

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.2  charger 383  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    2 weeks ago

Gun laws are to apply only to certain groups, others get a free pass in name of social justice 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  charger 383 @3.2    2 weeks ago

I am looking for a tee shirt that says "Don't blame me, I am doing it for social justice"

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  charger 383 @3.2    2 weeks ago
others get a free pass in name of social justice 

Correct and you get today's A +

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    2 weeks ago

Don't forget: It's social justice. That poor bastard suffered from systemic racism don't ya know. He should be granted some liberal privilege/s

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 weeks ago
There won't be many headlines informing the public of the loss of these two brave men, nor of the sad state of affairs in Los Angeles.

Of course there won't be for a few reasons.

  1. They were law enforcement.
  2. LA is a Democrat run shit hole.
  3. California is a Democrat run shit hole.

The Democrats and the media are a effective as an ashtray on a motorcycle.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6  Texan1211    2 weeks ago

This is the justice that Soros'-backed idiots give America as DA's.

Hope you idiots who voted for this crap are satisfied now.

Tell us some more tall tales of how you support law and order and are appreciative of our police force.

Tell us some more lies about your gun-control laws and how the idiots you elected to prosecute cases are woke and SJW's.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7  Texan1211    2 weeks ago

Gee, maybe we need Kamala to figure out the 'root causes' of why Soros-backed DA's are such freaking IDIOTS.

And then we need someone intelligent to figure out why Democrats were stupid enough to elect these clowns.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @7    2 weeks ago

As she says, "It is time for us to do what we have been doing. And that time is every day. Every day it is time for us to agree that there are things and tools that are available to us to slow this thing down."

 
 
 
Gsquared
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8  Gsquared    2 weeks ago

The only people who could possibly think that Los Angeles is a "shit hole" think the Third Reich was paradise.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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8.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Gsquared @8    2 weeks ago

One of the world’s greatest cities.

As often times is the case, fear and ignorance warp perspective. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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8.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  afrayedknot @8.1    2 weeks ago
One of the world’s greatest cities.

With one of the world's shittiest DA's.

As often times is the case, fear and ignorance warp perspective. 

So does ignoring reality.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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8.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @8.1    2 weeks ago
One of the world’s greatest cities.

Do you live there?


You better prepare yourself for the coming articles about your shity

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  afrayedknot @8.1    2 weeks ago

I think they've written off San Francisco, LA, and Chicago.   If those who have written them off would stay away, they wouldn't be shithole cities.  

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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8.1.4  afrayedknot  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.1    2 weeks ago

“With one of the world's shittiest DA's.

As often times is the case, fear and ignorance warp perspective. 

So does ignoring reality.”

So in your myopia, thus ignoring the posit in focusing on one individual and thus ignoring the millions of individuals who make it a thriving, vibrant, and important metropolis says all one need know. 

And just where do you live, tex? Does your city hold similar educational, financial, and cultural significance? 

Your insignificance may just mirror your answer. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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8.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  afrayedknot @8.1.4    2 weeks ago
So in your myopia, thus ignoring the posit in focusing on one individual and thus ignoring the millions of individuals who make it a thriving, vibrant, and important metropolis says all one need know. 

Well, if one actually READS what I say, one finds I didn't comment on the nature of the city itself. How about asking something legitimate about what I really posted?

And just where do you live, tex? Does your city hold similar educational, financial, and cultural significance? 

In a very small community on the outskirts of Waco, TX.

Why do you keep asking me about stuff I didn't write?

But I can tell you we don't have a dumbass DA who let's violent felons get off easy.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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8.1.6  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.2    2 weeks ago

“Do you live there?


You better prepare yourself for the coming articles about your shity”

No, but my two sons do, and have visited too many times to count. Have never felt threatened. In fact, have been welcomed by an incredibly diverse population in every instance.

The articles you promise will do nothing to dissuade the fact that it was, is, and will always be a special place. They will only serve to further an agenda, rendering them simply specious. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
8.1.7  afrayedknot  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.5    2 weeks ago

“But I can tell you we don't have a dumbass DA who let's violent felons get off easy.”

Well I guess you can sleep well tonight, even though he has absolutely no impact on your life in your small town outside of Waco. I’m sure the residents of LA appreciate your comments. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.5    2 weeks ago
In a very small community on the outskirts of Waco, TX.

I have a friend that retired from the Army to a small ranch next door outside of Lott.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  afrayedknot @8.1.7    2 weeks ago

yes, I will sleep well, much better than the victims and their families who are unfortunate enough to live in LA

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.8    2 weeks ago

been to Lott, not far from here

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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8.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.3    2 weeks ago

They are already staying away. But it is good that you are admitting they are shithole cities.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9  Texan1211    2 weeks ago

Ah, California--the Land of Fruits and Nuts.

It's a great place to be a criminal in!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @9    2 weeks ago

Or somebody making over $500,000 per year. There are basically two kinds of people left there.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10  Texan1211    2 weeks ago

Well, at least the woke folk are showing some sense and not trying to defend this DA's actions.

Now, will they support a recall of him?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @10    2 weeks ago
Now, will they support a recall of him?

Remember what happened with the Governor?  We got to a recall and then came another election. Obama got on the phone and the illegals got to the polls.

I know this is just the recall.  In California the people are always up against it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1    2 weeks ago
I know this is just the recall.  In California the people are always up against it.

hey, they managed to get rid of the terrorists' son, so why not?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.1    2 weeks ago

Celebrate every victory. It is a one party state.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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11  Dismayed Patriot    2 weeks ago
"In the lawless city of Los Angeles two brave police officers were murdered Tuesday night."

So first, that's clearly a horse shit partisan lie and is extremely disrespectful to the hard working men and women putting their lives on the line to keep a city safe and a slap in the face for these two brave officers.

There won't be many headlines informing the public of the loss of these two brave men, nor of the sad state of affairs in Los Angeles.

More complete horse shit. I live over 350 miles away and there were headlines in our local paper and it was on our local news. The dumb shit lies coming from partisans who can only complain and whine and lie about our State no less than nothing about the reality here, they just regurgitate useless right wing partisan talking points that do nothing but make themselves feel a little bit better about their sorry lot.

Another day and another injustice in the shit hole of Los Angeles.

Are there parts of the city that are "shitholes"? Yes. I used to be a building inspector and worked in East LA and there were some communities I didn't feel all that safe testing asphalt for new roadways being a white 6'2" male wearing a bright orange vest, but the vast majority of the people in the community are hard working law abiding citizens. The desire to denigrate them all by painting these communities as some Democratic failure is monumentally ignorant.

So in response to the ridiculous opinion disregarding the hard working police officers by claiming LA is "lawless" and that all of LA is a "shithole", go copulate with a cactus prick.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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11.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11    2 weeks ago

“…disregarding the hard working police officers by claiming LA is "lawless" and that all of LA is a "shithole”…”

Well said. Just more of the same hyper partisan invective. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
11.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  afrayedknot @11.1    2 weeks ago

Crime in LA is behind that in Detroit, New Orleans, Baltimore and San Francisco so there is that.  

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
11.2  Kavika   replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11    2 weeks ago

Come on cabron, you didn't feel safe in ELA. Just tell anyone that messes with ya that the Redman with the street name of El Indio said you were cool.jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png

Lunch at El Tepeyac, on me.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
11.2.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @11.2    2 weeks ago
El Tepeyac

I was born in East LA

Took a walk to the corner store
Just to buy a loaf of bread and a box of s'mores
Up pulled a guy in a yellow van
Shiny gold badge flashing in his hand

He said, alright all you mohuddles down here
I want you all to hit the floor
I got one thing to ask you and nothing more
So answer in English, if you can
Where were ya born, man

Huh? where was I born?

That's right, I said Where were ya born?

Hey, are you one of those dudes who do horoscopes, man
Hey, I'm a cancer with a bad moon rising

Look here Alfago, watch my lips
Where were ya born?

I was born in East L.A
Man, I was born in East L.A

Oh yeah, you were born in East L.A
Let's see your green card

Huh? green card?
I'm from East L.A

Alright, then who's president of the United States

Oh, that's easy, man
That guy that used to be on death valley days, John Wayne

Alright, let's go, come on

Next thing I know, I'm in a foreign land
People talkin' so fast, I couldn't understand
There was nobody there to lend a helping hand
I was cold, it was dark where is a burger stand

I want to go back to east L.A
I wish I was back in East L.A
I don't belong here in downtown t.j.
Cause I was born in East L.A, ole

I crawled under barbed wire, swam across a stream
Rode in six different trucks packed like a sardine
Walked all day in the burning sun
Now I know what it's like to be born to run

Up ahead was the promised land
Shining like a star just beyond my hand
All I could see was a golden door
I looked up, a sign said five billion sold

And I was back in East L.A
Yes, I was back in East L.A
You know I'm never gonna stray
Cause I was born in East L.A, oh L.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
11.2.2  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @11.2.1    2 weeks ago

Yeah, Cheech and Chong but I prefer Los Lobos ''Native Son''

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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11.2.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Kavika @11.2    2 weeks ago
you didn't feel safe in ELA.

It was the mid 1990's and while many of my co-workers and friends were Latino, they were the ones who told me not to look in passerby's eyes and not to stare at vehicles. It wasn't a race thing but a road rage and gang thing and there were stories of road workers and others getting shot at especially when lanes were blocked and traffic is slowed because of the road work which gets anyone in 105 degree heat mid summer with high smog levels in bumper to bumper traffic annoyed. But it was the local PD that would often be out patrolling around us and eating lunch with us at a local taqueria that made us feel much safer which is why it pisses me off when some disparage their hard work and try and blame two of our dedicated officers deaths on Democrats when these out of state conservative dip shit whiners have no fucking idea what they're talking about.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
11.2.4  Kavika   replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.2.3    2 weeks ago

Some members make comments about LA or Ca without any knowledge of it some without ever having been there. 

As the old saying goes ''if bullshit were dollars bills they would be independently wealthy''

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.3  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11    2 weeks ago

Doesn't do the cops any good or instill much confidence when you have a DA willing to let criminals off easy.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
12  Drinker of the Wry    2 weeks ago
 Just more of the same hyper partisan invective.

Exactly, not only isn't LA our the worst city for crime. It's not the worst city for racial segregation.  The good blue people in LA only have the 6th most segregated metropolitan area in the nation.  New York, Chicago, Milwaukee, Detroit and Miami are worse.  Surprisingly, only one of these cities are in the South.

 
 
 
GregTx
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12.1  GregTx  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @12    2 weeks ago

Huh? But I bet they rank really well on diversity right?..

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
12.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  GregTx @12.1    2 weeks ago

Absolutely, just in different neighborhoods.  

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
13  Kavika     2 weeks ago

For a crime infested city the LA metroplex has 3 of the safest cities in the US and CA have a total of 5 of the safest cities. 

TOP 10 SAFEST CITIES IN NATION No. 1 - Frisco, Texas No. 2 - McKinney, Texas No. 3 - Santa Clarita, California No. 4 - Sunnyvale, California No. 5 - Glendale, California No. 6 - McAllen, Texas No. 7 - Cary, North Carolina (tied) No. 7 - Santa Clara, California (tied) No. 9 - Plano, Texas No. 10 - Torrance, California

Read more at:

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
13.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @13    2 weeks ago

Exactly, state wide and even citywide stats aren't very useful, you need neighborhood stats to evaluate risk.  

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
14  Kavika     2 weeks ago

LOL, of course, but having lived in the LA metroplex for 43 years I'm quite familiar with the cities and the neighborhoods. The list per CA is pretty accurate.

Here is a good article on segregated metro areas in the US.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
14.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @14    2 weeks ago
Here is a good article on segregated metro areas in the US.

Good data, the West Coast hasn't ever been very welcoming to Blacks and I understand that LA like, San Francisco is continuing to lose Black population.  

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
14.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @14.1    2 weeks ago

True and the main reason is that many blacks have moved out of predominately black areas, (Compton et al) and moved to other areas of CA and out of Ca searching for more affordable houseing. 

BTW, blacks are not the only minority in CA, Asians, Hispanic, Asians, PI and NA make up a large part of California's population. The diversity of culture and foods is unlimited. 

What area has ever been welcoming to blacks or any minority?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
14.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @14    2 weeks ago

Many years ago, I lived in Monterey and would visit LA once or twice a year.  From the mid 90's to 2010, I traveled on business to LA twice a year.  I remember the  El Tepeyac Café, as a special place.  

My work had me around West Rancho Dominguez so heading up to I-10E /I-5N was a bit of a drive but I always thought that the Machaca, Hollenbeck Burrito and Menudo on Fridays was worth it.  I hope it is still as good as I remember.

If you are ever in El Paso, try the L&J Cafe, their brisket tacos are amazing.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
14.2.1  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @14.2    2 weeks ago

Mr. Menudo on Whittier Blvd on Sunday was the thing. A hard night partying on Saturday and it was Sunday morning menudo.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
14.2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @14.2.1    2 weeks ago

Good recovery soup!  You’re right about Los Lobos, my favorites include Kiko, Colossal Head, The Neighborhood and The Ride.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
14.2.3  Kavika   replied to  Drinker of the Wry @14.2.2    2 weeks ago

One Night in America.

 
 

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