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Rand Paul Calls for Espionage Act Repeal as Trump Fumes Over FBI Search

  

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Via:  jbb  •  2 years ago  •  54 comments

By:   Newsweek

Rand Paul Calls for Espionage Act Repeal as Trump Fumes Over FBI Search
The Republican senator said Saturday that the federal law has been "abused from the beginning to jail dissenters."

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Senator Rand Paul, a Kentucky Republican, called for repealing the Espionage Act less than a week after the FBIexecuted a search warrant at former President Donald Trump's Florida residence, with the legal document citing a provision of the federal law that the federal agency suspected had been violated.

The FBI, with the approval of Attorney General Merrick Garland, carried out the Monday raid of Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort home, searching for top secret and sensitive compartmentalized information, as well as other classified documents. Trump and his allies have condemned the raid, with the ex-president calling it part of a "hoax" and an ongoing "witch hunt" targeting him.

On Friday, the warrant for the search was unsealed, revealing that it cited potential violations of federal laws 18 USC 2071—Concealment, removal or mutilation, 18 USC 793—Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information, and 18 USC 1519—Destruction, alteration or falsification of records in Federal investigations. The federal statute 18 USC 793 is part of the Espionage Act.

rand-paul.jpg?w=790&f=bdd670875f392a22dbd4dda3ebd84a25 Senator Rand Paul, a Kentucky Republican, called for the repeal of the Espionage Act in a Saturday Twitter post. Above, Paul attends a Senate Homeland Security Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Spending Oversight on Capitol Hill on August 3 in Washington, D.C. Drew Angerer/Getty Images

Paul, a supporter of the former president, took issue with the Espionage Act in a Saturday Twitter post.

"The espionage act was abused from the beginning to jail dissenters of WWI. It is long past time to repeal this egregious affront to the 1st Amendment," he wrote. The GOP senator included a link to a June 2019 article titled "Repeal the Espionage Act" published by The Future of Freedom Foundation.


The espionage act was abused from the beginning to jail dissenters of WWI. It is long past time to repeal this egregious affront to the 1st Amendment.
Repeal the Espionage Act - The Future of Freedom Foundation https://t.co/3KCgujpS9z
— Rand Paul (@RandPaul) August 13, 2022

Newsweek reached out to Paul's press representatives for comment.

The article shared by the senator, which was written by the foundation's founder and president, Jacob Hornberger, said that the World War I-era law should be repealed in connection to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. Hornberger called the Espionage Act "a tyrannical law" that had been enacted and used to "punish" political dissidents.

"In fact, it is that World War I relic that U.S. officials are now relying on to secure the criminal indictment of Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks head who released a mountain of evidence disclosing the inner workings and grave wrongdoing on the part of the U.S. national-security establishment, especially with respect to the manner in which it has waged it undeclared forever wars in the Middle East and Afghanistan," he wrote.

Paul has previously called for Assange to be granted immunity from prosecution.

"I think that he should be given immunity from prosecution in exchange for coming to the United States and testifying," the Kentucky Republican told The Gateway Pundit in August 2018. "I think he's been someone who has released a lot of information, and you can debate whether or not any of that has caused harm, but I think really he has information that is probably pertinent to the hacking of the Democratic emails that would be nice to hear."

Paul's Democratic opponent, former state Representative Charles Booker, slammed the GOP senator's call for repealing the federal law.

"Rand Paul is now calling to repeal the Espionage Act after the world learned Donald Trump is under investigation for violating it. When I am elected to the Senate, you will never have to question my loyalty to our country," Booker wrote in a Saturday tweet.

"Rand Paul's actions are shameful," the Democratic candidate added in a follow-up post.


Rand Paul is now calling to repeal the Espionage Act after the world learned Donald Trump is under investigation for violating it.
When I am elected to the Senate, you will never have to question my loyalty to our country.
— Charles Booker (@Booker4KY) August 14, 2022

Paul also previously said, without any evidence, that the FBI may have planted classified information at Mar-a-Lago during the raid. "Do I know that the boxes of material they took from Mar-a-Lago, that they won't put things into those boxes to entrap him?" Paul asked during an interview with Fox News show Fox & Friends on Wednesday. "How do we know?"

News first broke in early February that the former president had improperly taken classified documents to his Florida home, with the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) confirming that it had been searching for 15 boxes of records. The ex-president did not deny the story at the time, saying that it was a mix-up as his staff hastily moved him out of the White House.

After the boxes were returned to the NARA, the collection led to additional concern that the former president still had additional classified materials. Federal investigators began interviewing Trump staffers to determine what had been taken from the White House. The interviews, and a broader investigation overseen by a U.S. attorney, resulted in a grand jury subpoena served against Trump in late May to produce specific documents.

When the documents were not turned over, the FBI and the Justice Department chose to take the unprecedented step of carrying out a search warrant against a former president. A federal judge, as is required due process, approved the warrant—believing that the FBI had demonstrated probable cause.

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JBB
Professor Principal
1  seeder  JBB    2 years ago

Rand's logic is that if Trump engages in espionage, make it legal...

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
1.1  squiggy  replied to  JBB @1    2 years ago

It worked for drugs.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  squiggy @1.1    2 years ago

Are Trump and Rand Paul on drugs? Is that the gop's excuse today? I cannot keep up. First there were no secret documents. Then the FBI planted them. Next Trump declassified them. Now we should change to law to make espionage, selling our top secrets, legal? 

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
1.1.2  squiggy  replied to  JBB @1.1.1    2 years ago

Alcohol, weed - liberals would embrace their misery rather than fight them. Just lower the bar.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.3  Ender  replied to  squiggy @1.1.2    2 years ago

republicans have been lowering the bar for years. Do keep up.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  squiggy @1.1.2    2 years ago

Clueless plus nothing but deflection

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
1.1.5  squiggy  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.4    2 years ago

Just the mention of lowbar brings 'em screamin.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @1    2 years ago

Rand is a fucking moron like his hero trumpturd

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2  seeder  JBB    2 years ago

original

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @2    2 years ago

Mos Eisley is Disneyland compared to Mar-a-lardo

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
3  bbl-1    2 years ago

Alleged Libertarian Rand Paul has been spending every waking moment defending the Trump.  Why?  About time to follow the money.  Remember the Russian Butina lady, her connections to the NRA and various GOP funding mechanisms?  What ever happened with that?

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
3.1  evilone  replied to  bbl-1 @3    2 years ago
Remember the Russian Butina lady, her connections to the NRA and various GOP funding mechanisms?  What ever happened with that?

According to wiki - In December of 2018 Maria Butina pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 18 months in prison. She served 9 months in prison while waiting for trial and after sentencing served an additional 5 months before she was released and deported back to Russia. In 2021 she was elected to the Lower House of the Federal Assembly of Russia as a member of United Russia. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4  seeder  JBB    2 years ago

Beginning by at least 2014 and continuing right up to election day in 2016 Trump was in secret negotiations with Vlad Putin to build a new Trump Tower in Moscow. The documents taken from Mara Lago were probably going to be used by Trump to finally close the Putin deal...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @4    2 years ago

ontinuing right up to election day in 2016 Trump was in secret negotiations with Vlad Putin to build a new Trump Tower in Moscow. 

That's the fantasy.  The reality, as explained by Robert Mueller, is that Michael Cohen exchanged some emails with property owners in Russia to license the name "Trump Tower."  

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1    2 years ago

The military secrets in Trump's basement are worth billion$...

To Vlad Putin!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.1.1    2 years ago

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Snuffy
Professor Participates
4.1.3  Snuffy  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.2    2 years ago

Removed for context

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4    2 years ago

still sticking with that insane, debunked crapola, I see.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2    2 years ago

Except, according to Don Trump Jr and Rudy Giuliani it is all true.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.1    2 years ago

what if it is? is it illegal, or what????

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @4.2.1    2 years ago
according to Don Trump Jr and Rudy Giuliani it is all true.

No it isn't.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.3    2 years ago

He is just throwing shit at a wall, hoping desperately some of it sticks.

same stuff has been going on since Trump first announced he was running.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
5  sandy-2021492    2 years ago

Good grief, I was sure this was satire.

 
 
 
GregTx
PhD Guide
5.1  GregTx  replied to  sandy-2021492 @5    2 years ago

Nope, ridiculous no?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  sandy-2021492 @5    2 years ago

If Trump cannot be stopped from selling our Nation's top secrets to our enemies then the obvious solution is to make it legal to do so...

That is an example of satire but Rand Paul seriously wants to do it!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.2    2 years ago

you have nary a shred of evidence Trump sold or intended to sell.

just wild speculation

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.2.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.1    2 years ago

Yet the judge who signed the warrent saw enough evidence to predicate searching Trump's hime on The Espionage Act!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.2.2    2 years ago

I will believe it when you prove it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.2.2    2 years ago

So. again, no proof.

Seems like an occurrence happening frequently.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.2.5  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.4    2 years ago

Are you really still unaware of the fact that the judge used The Espionage Act as a predicate for the search warrant?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.2.5    2 years ago

still can't or won't prove your claim, I see.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6  Ender    2 years ago

Ol Rand has become a stooge.

Wonder if his neighbor beating the shit out of him impacted his brain.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
7  Thrawn 31    2 years ago

Lol, the GOp answer when trump breaks the law? Change the law. So much for law and order, of course that was always a line of total bullshit from them in the first place.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
8  Gsquared    2 years ago

Rand Paul is so out of touch with reality maybe he's using psychedelic drugs for his PTSD.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9  Sean Treacy    2 years ago

Repealing the Espionage Act and/or calling it unconstitutional was a standard talking point on the left in 2016 when Hillary Clinton was under investigation.

It makes these responses doubly funny. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
9.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @9    2 years ago

Trump advocated for and signed the law he is suspected of breaking!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @9.1    2 years ago

Trump did not sign the Espionage Act. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
9.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @9.1.1    2 years ago

Wrongo! Trump signed the current Espionage Act in 2017.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @9.1.2    2 years ago

Lol. Try again.  

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
9.1.4  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @9.1.3    2 years ago

Can you see a pyramid from your vantage point on that river?

Who was President in 2017 when the current law was signed?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @9.1.4    2 years ago
Can you see a pyramid from your vantage point on that river? Who was President in 2017 when the current law was signed?

Damn, I really hate to burst your bubble, but have you ever read your own link?

Let me quote from a real link:

There is one summary for H.R.2426. Bill summaries are authored by CRS.

Shown Here:
Introduced in House (05/16/2017)

Secure Government Buildings from Espionage Act of 2017

This bill instructs the General Services Administration, the Architect of the Capitol, or any other federal agency (other than the Department of Defense), before entering into a lease agreement with a public or private entity to accommodate a federal agency in a building or other improvement that will be used for high-security leased space, to require such entity:

  • to identify each beneficial owner of such entity;
  • to disclose to such agency any beneficial owner that is a foreign person; and
  • if such agency is assigning the building or other improvement to a federal tenant, to notify that tenant of any such disclosure.

The agency shall require such entity to:

  • provide such identification and disclosure when first submitting a proposal in response to an agency solicitation, and
  • update such information within 60 days of any change in the beneficial owners of that entity or the information required to be provided relating to each such owner.

H.R.2426 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Secure Government Buildings from Espionage Act of 2017 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

Now, do YOU know who signed the Espionage Act of 1917???????????

Here are two relevant hints for you.

1. It was not Trump.

2. It was Woodrow Wilson.

Get it now????
 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
9.1.6  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.5    2 years ago

The current Espionage Act of 2017 was enacted in 2017.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @9.1.6    2 years ago
The current Espionage Act of 2017 was enacted in 2017.

Well, duh.

THAT is why I gave you the link!

What you claim and what reality is are continents apart.

So a judge signed off on a warrant based on Secure Government Buildings from Espionage Act of 2017?

LMMFAO!

HOW on earth can you even believe that crap?

How????????

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @9.1.6    2 years ago

Is the judge who signed the warrant a complete dumbfuck?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @9.1.6    2 years ago

I GAVE you a summary of the Act of 2017.

Now, can YOU give me a shred of legal reasoning a judge would use to sign off on a warrant for Trump's residence BASED ON THE ACTUAL ACT?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
9.1.10  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.8    2 years ago

The CIA and FBI and MI6 and Interpol did not start out to spy on Trump. They were just doing their thing spying on other spies when Trump and Co were seeking out and meeting with and establishing long term relationships with Russian spies.

If you or I did that too we would be charged with espionage.

Now, Trump has been busted hiding reams of highly secret classified documents that are worth billions to our enemies.

The law the judge used as predicate for the warrent he authorized against Trump was updated and signed by Trump because he was infuriated Hillary had not been charged.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @9.1.10    2 years ago
The law the judge used as predicate for the warrent he authorized against Trump was updated and signed by Trump because he was infuriated Hillary had not been charged.

So prove it then--which is ALL I have been begging you to do now for over an hour.

Why can't you?

I gave you the link to the Espionage Act of 2017 and asked how a judge could use it to sign off on a warrant for Trump's residence. 

You keep claiming stuff you just are unable to prove. 

Which of course makes me highly suspect the veracity of your claims.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
9.1.12  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.11    2 years ago

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9.1.13  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @9.1.6    2 years ago

Do you know what the espionage act is? 

lol.  This is one of the funnier things that has happened on this site in a while.   

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9.1.14  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @9.1.10    2 years ago

now you are just making things up again. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9.1.15  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @9.1.6    2 years ago

For starters. What day was the “espionage  act of 2017”  signed into law by president Trump? For some reason, your  link is missing that information

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @9.1.10    2 years ago

This is just the tip of the iceberg of that lifelong thugs' criminal acts

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9.1.17  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @9.1.2    2 years ago

When was this signed by trump? What statute from this supposed law did the judge cite?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.2  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @9    2 years ago

You and your little buddies have CDS and HBDS yet you accuse us constantly of having tds

 
 

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