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Biden suggests uncle eaten by ‘cannibals’ in New Guinea — but military says his WWII plane lost at sea

  

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Biden suggests uncle eaten by ‘cannibals’ in New Guinea — but military says his WWII plane lost at sea

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President Biden twice   implied Wednesday that his uncle Ambrose Finnegan was eaten by cannibals   in New Guinea after his plane went down during World War II — even though military records show that the aircraft disappeared over the Pacific.

“He got shot down in an area where there were a lot of cannibals at the time,” Biden initially told reporters before boarding Air Force One as he departed Scranton, Pa.

“They never recovered his body, but the government went back when I went down there and they checked and found some parts of the plane.”

After arriving in Pittsburgh, the 81-year-old president told the same story to United Steelworkers union members.


“He got shot down in New Guinea and they never found the body because there used to be — there were a lot of cannibals, for real, in that part of New Guinea,” Biden said

The Pentagon’s Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency says that Finnegan’s plane actually was lost over the open ocean.

“For unknown reasons, this plane was forced to ditch in the ocean off the north coast of New Guinea. Both engines failed at low altitude, and the aircraft’s nose hit the water hard,”   the military’s account   says....

While president, Biden has  shared at least 13 times   a debunked story involving an Amtrak conductor, claimed in 2022 that his uncle Frank Biden  won the Purple Heart   — even though the details of his account make it factually impossible, and has   said twice that he was picked   to attend the Naval Academy, though no supporting documentation exists.

Biden in 2021  told Jewish leaders  that he remembered “spending time at” and “going to” Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue in 2018 after the worst anti-Semitic attack in US history, in which 11 people were murdered.

The synagogue said Biden never visited and the White House  later claimed  he was thinking about a 2019 phone call to the synagogue’s rabbi.


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Sean Treacy
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1  seeder  Sean Treacy    9 months ago

Biden just told this story again for the second time today: He claimed his uncle was a pilot, was shot down over Guinea and eaten by cannibals. Ambrose Finnegan was a passenger on a plane that was ditched due to engine failure and he drowned in the ocean

It's elder abuse to let him talk in public.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    9 months ago

The people that want to see him continue his crash and burn for another four years should be ashamed of themselves.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.2  Snuffy  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    9 months ago

That's a pretty good memory for a kid who was only 1.5 years old when 'Uncle Bosie' died. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    9 months ago
It's elder abuse to let him talk in public.

Its America population abuse to let Trump talk at all. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.3.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @1.3    9 months ago

There is the obligatory pathetic "but Trruuummmmppppp!!!!!!" comment. 

Just can't seem to stay on topic can you?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.3.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.2    9 months ago

The things that trigger a Trump response are getting more sad every day.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.3.5  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.4    9 months ago

Not so much degraded as deranged.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.3.7  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.3.3    9 months ago
The things that trigger a Trump response are getting more sad every day.

actually, what is sad, is even attempting to compare the two. Is there proof Unc wasn't eaten by cannibals? Cause didn't know the Lucky Charms Leprechaun was at Gettysburg, cause 45 apparently lost the address, but really, if you think you could compare Bidens Bull to Trumps, you guys are crazy. Yep , Biden embellishes now and then, Trump punts on 1st and 10 kilometers krazy asz psychotic neurotic uphill fightin Irish Trumpullthinskin, is a few epidurals' short of an abortion gone wild cause he's our Orange colored child, that the cats would have buried, if not defiled buy the pussy grabbin back stabbin miscreant marshmallow small handed fellow ship of the rings around his anus that were forced in , by his space force gang of green, envious of all his court ships,  sank in the straights of whore muze, butt, he shore can amuze

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.3.9  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.8    9 months ago

prove Bidens Uncle wasn't eaten by cannibals'

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.3.11  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.10    9 months ago

rebut whoever you want, just don't be sneakin round my back door

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.3.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.3.7    9 months ago

Ah. But but but trump. The response of choice when you can't defend biden.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.3.14  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.3.13    9 months ago
actually, what is sad, is even attempting to compare the two. Is there proof Unc wasn't eaten by cannibals? Cause didn't know the Lucky Charms Leprechaun was at Gettysburg, cause 45 apparently lost the address, but really, if you think you could compare Bidens Bull to Trumps, you guys are crazy. Yep , Biden embellishes now and then, Trump punts on 1st and 10 kilometers krazy asz psychotic neurotic

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.3.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.3.14    9 months ago

well put

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.3.18  Right Down the Center  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.3.14    9 months ago
what is sad, is even attempting to compare the two.

Then why are you doing it.  The article is about Biden.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.3.19  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.3.18    9 months ago

Bingo!

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.3.20  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.2    9 months ago
We live in a degraded nation, because of those among us who can't get Trump off their minds whenever anything negative about Biden is said.

Perhaps.

But what about all the people that can't get Biden off their mind whenever anything negative about Trump is said???  jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.3.21  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @1.3.20    9 months ago
But what about all the people that can't get Biden off their mind whenever anything negative about Trump is said??? 

And don't get me started about Hillary's laptop!!!

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.3.22  Krishna  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.3.7    9 months ago
Is there proof Unc wasn't eaten by cannibals?

You can't prove a negative.

If something actually happened it might be possible to prove it.

But how can you prove that something didn't happen? 

(Especially when its something as shocking as having someone eat a relative-- say, for example, someone eating your uncle! jrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png )

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.3.24  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Krishna @1.3.22    9 months ago
You can't prove a negative.

yea, well i'm positive i can, i have a dark room

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    9 months ago
He claimed his uncle was a pilot, was shot down over Guinea and eaten by cannibals.

I think the rest of it goes that the cannibals later said he was delicious.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @1.4.1    9 months ago

They would say he is an old Irish guy who likes to tell stories.

I grew up in an Irish neighborhood and I don't recall old Irish guys habitually making up bullshit stories.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.4.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.2    9 months ago

I am Irish.

Biden has an "unfortunate" habit of trying to make his personal stories more interesting to the listeners. So do many other Irishmen. 

Has nothing to do with his ability to be president. 

Trump lies constantly because he is mentally ill with malignant narcissism. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.4.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @1.4.3    9 months ago
Biden has an "unfortunate" habit of trying to make his personal stories more interesting to the listeners.

They're called lies.  For once get it right.

So do many other Irishmen.

What a pathetic excuse. 

Has nothing to do with his ability to be president. 

Has a lot to do with his ability to be president.  He can't keep things straight about his own fucking family, how is he going to handle real world problems.  

Trump lies constantly because he is mentally ill with malignant narcissism. 

Another pathetic deflection.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.4.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @1.4.1    9 months ago

Hell, look at how unhinged they are when he states FACTS.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.4.7  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4    9 months ago
He claimed his uncle was a pilot, was shot down over Guinea and eaten by cannibals.
I think the rest of it goes that the cannibals later said he was delicious

Is that an uneaten part of an uncle in your pocket...or are you just glad to see me?

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.4.8  goose is back  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4    9 months ago
cannibals later said he was delicious.

They had him with some fava beans and a nice chianti. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.4.9  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @1.4.3    9 months ago

So in other words Biden lies his ass off to Irish and  non Irish alike just to get attention. Sounds like you are playing semantic games here JR.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.4.11  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @1.4.10    9 months ago

Pretty much.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.5  Krishna  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    9 months ago
Biden just told this story again for the second time today: He claimed his uncle was a pilot, was shot down over Guinea and eaten by cannibals. Ambrose Finnegan was a passenger on a plane that was ditched due to engine failure and he drowned in the ocean

Maybe the whole thing is a hoax-- and the cannibals that ate him didn't do it in New Guinea, but rather they were actually on the plane when they ate him?

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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1.5.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Krishna @1.5    9 months ago

Interesting thing is , canabalism was a part of WW 2, look up Chi chi jima.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.5.2  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.5.1    9 months ago
Chi chi jima.

I just learned of that the other day and that George Bush was shot down on that mission as well, but luckily over water.   I was familiar with the absolute brutality the Japanese treated their prisoners, but that's on another level.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    9 months ago

Biden is an old Irish guy who likes to tell stories. Who gives a fuck? 

Some of you want to put a provable traitor in as president. 

Plus Trump is a psychopath , malignant narcissist, which is a mental illness. What is wrong with you people? 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @2    9 months ago

Trump is not the subject of the article. Do try to stay on topic.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2    9 months ago
"Biden is an old Irish guy who likes to tell stories. Who gives a fuck?" 

He's a deranged pedo pervert POS who likes to tell lie after lie after lie...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2    9 months ago
Biden is an old Irish guy who likes to tell stories. Who gives a fuck? 

The people that don't want to vote for a dementia ridden old man with delusions.  You know, normal people.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.4    9 months ago

there is nothing normal at all about believing trump is fit to hold office

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.4.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.4.1    9 months ago

Maybe you should mention that in an article about Trump, there are several here every day.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.5  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2    9 months ago
psychopath , malignant narcissist

No, he's just an old German guy who likes to tell stories. 

 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    9 months ago

"Grandma said she hoped

When Joe became a man

He'd be a missionary 

Like her older brother Dan

Who eaten by the cannibals 

That live on Ceylon Isle

Where every prospect pleases

And only man is vile"

Author Unknown...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  seeder  Sean Treacy    9 months ago

He's at the stage of dementia where childhood memories merge with Looney Tunes shorts from the 1930s.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  Vic Eldred    9 months ago

It was very entertaining. He again told us of the son he always talks about and some child who gave him the finger.

Again, he mentioned Charlottsville, which supposedly got him into the race. He again lied about his opponent's statement about statues and from there he talked about following the rules and seeing a campaign sign that said F- Biden.

He knows every world leader by their first name.

No kidding.

He's thinking of writing a history book on what the next few years would look like.

Here is a brief portion:

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6  Vic Eldred    9 months ago

Then in an attempt to imitate his opponent's authenticity he stopped in at a coffee shop in Scranton PA.



Nobody paid him much attention.  He got 80 million votes somehow?

That was two days he spent campaigning in PA.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    9 months ago
Then in an attempt to imitate his opponent's authenticity he stopped in at a coffee shop in Scranton PA.

no candidate ever appeared at a coffee shop or diner until trump did? 

feel free to dispense with the comedy at any time

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.1    9 months ago

You know that doesn't matter.  The article is calling out Biden and his mental deficiencies so they have to deflect.  They just can't stand the obvious problems with what they support.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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6.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    9 months ago

You think Brandon and his team came up with this idea on their own?

This is as staged as every last one of his media interviews.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7  Vic Eldred    9 months ago

When he went outside in Scranton, protestors were waiting for him.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8  Jeremy Retired in NC    9 months ago

The excuses made for Biden are pretty pathetic. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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8.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8    9 months ago

Biden's main mouthpiece KJP just cannot seem to get it through her head how foolish she sounds defending and constantly making excuses for him. But that's what she gets paid to do I guess.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @8.1    9 months ago

That's what happens when you are a "Check the block" applicant.  

 
 
 
charger 383
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9  charger 383    9 months ago

What will he say next?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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9.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  charger 383 @9    9 months ago

And how will his minions defend it and how foolish will they look attempting it..

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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9.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  charger 383 @9    9 months ago

You ask for it:

Biden says Trump ‘doesn’t deserve to be the Commander in Chief for my son’

President  Joe Biden  on Wednesday choked up as he blasted  Donald Trump , saying the presumptive  Republican  presidential nominee “doesn’t deserve to be the Commander in Chief for my son.”

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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9.2.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @9.2    9 months ago

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Drinker of the Wry
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9.2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @9.2    9 months ago

Didn’t Hunter get kicked out of the Navy after failing a drug test?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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9.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @9.2.2    9 months ago

Joe Biden's Son Hunter Biden Discharged From Navy After Positive Cocaine Test

  Hunter Biden  was discharged from the Navy in February after testing positive for cocaine, a person familiar with the case confirmed to ABC News.

Imagine that. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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10  Greg Jones    9 months ago

They really need to keep Biden cooped up in the basement.

 
 
 
GregTx
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10.2  GregTx  replied to  Greg Jones @10    9 months ago

Nah, looks like alot more people need to see how out of it Biden really is....

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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11  Drinker of the Wry    9 months ago

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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12  Drinker of the Wry    9 months ago

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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13  Hal A. Lujah    9 months ago

Biden is still a better candidate than a blind, deaf, and dumb paraplegic, but I’d vote for any blind, deaf, and dumb paraplegic over Trump anyways so Biden it is.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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13.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @13    9 months ago
Biden is still a better candidate than a blind, deaf, and dumb paraplegic,

Are you thinking of Tommy, the Pinball Wizard?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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13.2.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.1    9 months ago

I didn’t say he was a good candidate, I said “better candidate than a blind, deaf, and dumb paraplegic”.  There’s a difference, and Donald Trump is far beneath that bar.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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13.2.4  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.3    9 months ago

Who should I vote for?  I’ll wait.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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13.2.7  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.6    9 months ago

Yeah but, if they can’t possibly win then I would be contributing to the election of someone worse than a blind, deaf, and dumb paraplegic.  When are you Republicans going to learn this?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.2.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @13.2.7    9 months ago
When are you Republicans going to learn this?

The weight of constant media apathy is normalizing Trump more every day. When critical mass is reached the country is fucked. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.2.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.10    9 months ago

The media has never held Trump's feet to the fire. Never. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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13.2.14  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.12    9 months ago
media has never held Trump's feet to the fire. Never. 

Amazing..

 
 
 
George
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13.2.15  George  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.12    9 months ago

Well played John! That is the funniest thing I’ve seen in a while.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.2.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @13.2.14    9 months ago

Really? By all means point to one tough interview Trump has ever "endured".

Kristen Welker of NBC asked him what he was doing on the afternoon of Jan 6th, and when he said "Im not going to tell you" she dropped the subject. 

In 2020 Savannah Guthrie asked Trump about Q Anon. He said he didnt know anything about it except that he knew they liked him . She let it go at that. 

He has been babied since he started. 

 
 
 
GregTx
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13.2.17  GregTx  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.16    9 months ago
He has been babied since he started.

jrSmiley_81_smiley_image.gif

By whom?...

 
 
 
Ronin2
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13.2.19  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.16    9 months ago

You want to compare that to the staged media interviews Brandon has? Where he is given the questions in advance; and interviewers aren't allowed to deviate from the set questions.

How about Brandon's cue cards that literally tell him when to pause. When to laugh. When to breath. And when to leave. They still haven't figured out how to get him off stage. A trained rescue dog might work; but as we all know all of Brandon's dogs bite those around them.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.2.20  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.18    9 months ago

By all means point to one tough interview Trump has ever "endured".

He put out hateful, vicious , and bizarre "Christmas and Thanksgiving" messages. No reporter asked him why and challenged him about them. 

If Biden put out a Christmas message attacking his enemies the reporters would be shouting at him about it all day long. 

I could literally find hundreds of times over the past 9 years where the media did not confront Trump when they should have. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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13.2.21  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.20    9 months ago
If Biden put out a Christmas message attacking his enemies the reporters would be shouting at him about it all day long. 

Oh bullshit................

I could literally find hundreds of times over the past 9 years where the media did not confront Trump when they should have.

In your opinion only. Glad you aren't the arbiter of information.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.2.22  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @13.2.21    9 months ago

Reporters never confront Trump. Never. 

If you think they do, give us some examples. 

Has any reporter ever asked Trump why he gives people stupid nicknames that would embarrass a ten year old ?  I've never seen it. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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13.2.23  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.22    9 months ago
Has any reporter ever asked Trump why he gives people stupid nicknames that would embarrass a ten year old

Who cares why? He does it. He's Trump. I think everyone understands that.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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13.2.24  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.22    9 months ago
Reporters never confront Trump.

Why would they when bloggers ran with the fiction that the Democrats gave them without a single check on any validity.

Has any reporter ever asked Trump why he gives people stupid nicknames that would embarrass a ten year old ?

I imagine the intent was to make the TDS liberals cry.  And it worked.  Look at you all.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.2.25  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @13.2.23    9 months ago
He's Trump.

Exactly. The most unfit to be president politician in US history. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.2.26  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @13.2.24    9 months ago

Do I look to you like I am crying ? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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13.2.30  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.22    9 months ago
Reporters never confront Trump. Never. 

They used to debate him daily!!!!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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13.2.31  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.26    9 months ago

Yes.  You've been doing it for 8 years now.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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13.2.32  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.16    9 months ago
y all means point to one tough interview Trump has ever "endured"

This is insane.  As pointed out below  Biden gets scripted questions while Trump battled the press for hours upon end in press conferences. Just because Trump handled the press doesn't mean they weren't trying their best to get him. 

This might be the worst argument you've ever made. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.2.33  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @13.2.32    9 months ago

You are out of your mind. The ONLY reason I dont list all the times the media has let Trump off the hook is because there wouldnt be time to do anything else. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.2.34  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @13.2.32    9 months ago

Name one reporter in any interview who has asked Trump why he lies so much. 

They just accept it as "Trump being Trump". It is far beyond absurd. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.2.35  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.34    9 months ago
It is hard to see how any responsible news executive would defend CNBC’s actions as beneficial, nevermind smart. Asked why the network allowed Trump to repeatedly lie on its air without scrutiny, a CNBC spokesperson told me: “We asked former President Trump questions that are important to our audience such as social security and entitlement spending, and challenged him throughout the discussion on business issues like tariffs and their impact on the nation’s relationship with China. Additionally, the CNBC digital team has followed up with reporting throughout the day pointing out areas of inaccuracies and including comments from others questioning his statements.”

Regardless of how debatable that characterization is, it is remarkable that after nearly a decade of covering Trump as a politician, prominent news outlets, having witnessed the democracy-threatening effects of Trump’s lies, have reverted to lowering their guardrails, allowing him to once again poison the public discourse with false claims. It’s even more striking given the stakes.

CNBC invited Trump on its air. The network didn’t even try to stop his lies | CNN Business
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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13.2.36  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @13.2.32    9 months ago
This might be the worst argument you've ever made. 

It is truly laughable.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.2.38  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.2.36    9 months ago

You are all in profound denial. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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13.2.39  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.34    9 months ago
Name one reporter in any interview who has asked Trump why he lies so much. 

Why not just spit in his face or assault him.

You don't want journalism or even decency.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.2.41  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.2.30    9 months ago

Look how easily and quickly the fool Trump lost his temper over these mild questions. 

LOL. 

He is remarkably lucky no one ever gets harsh with him. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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13.2.42  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.2.39    9 months ago

“…decency.”

That has been eliminated from any political discussion in the divisive daze. 

As it has alway been, it is incumbent on each of us to show our decency in our actions, in our personal interactions…in our hearts.

The rest is but pablum, only uttered to satisfy some warped sense of self gratification. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
13.2.43  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.2.39    9 months ago
Name one reporter in any interview who has asked Trump why he lies so much. 
Why not just spit in his face or assault him.You don't want journalism or even decency.

Your comment is distressingly strange. He can get away with lying thousands of times because it would be mean or impolite to call him out?   To his face.  That is what you seem to be saying. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
13.2.44  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.12    9 months ago

I beg to differ with you. There are far more that have than those that have not. You really think Biden has not gotten a free pass from the leftist liberal MSM the last three plus years? 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
13.2.46  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.29    9 months ago

The next PotUS will be either Biden or Trump.   Which of those two is better for the nation?

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
13.2.48  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @13.2.46    9 months ago

Which of those two do you think is better for the nation?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
13.2.49  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.47    9 months ago

One will be PotUS;  do you see no difference whatsoever between these two men in terms of their impact on our nation?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
13.2.51  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.50    9 months ago

This is the response that typically follows a probative question that is too difficult (or embarrassing) to answer.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
13.2.52  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @13.2.48    9 months ago

Biden.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
13.2.54  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.53    9 months ago

All these words when the answer could be a single word:   'Biden' or 'Trump'.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
13.2.56  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.55    9 months ago

You ask me a question while refusing to answer my very clear question.   One who honestly wants to discuss would not presume one sided disclosure.

... who are you going to vote for if Trump--for any reason--is not on the ballot or ineligible?

That depends on who becomes the GOP nominee.   For example, if Haley becomes the nominee she has my vote.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
13.2.58  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.57    9 months ago
So you are going to sit it out and let responsible adults decide for you?

Where exactly did you read that?   You even quoted my example (given we do not know who is the nominee):

TiG@13.2.56  ☞ For example, if Haley becomes the nominee she has my vote.

Looks to me as though you had your response enqueued no matter what I replied ... even if (as is the case) your reply makes no sense whatsoever.

And still, you cannot muster the strength to answer my question: 

TiG@13.2.46 The next PotUS will be either Biden or Trump.   Which of those two is better for the nation?
 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
13.2.60  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.59    9 months ago

Yet another lame deflection (and I think everyone knows why) when the answer to my question could be as easy as one word:  'Trump' or 'Biden'.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
13.2.62  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.61    9 months ago

In order to answer a question of 'who would you vote for:  Biden or _____', I think most rational human beings would need to actually know the opponent.  

More deflection rather than admit that Biden and Trump as PotUS are NOT equal in terms of what is good for this nation.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
13.2.64  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @13.2.51    9 months ago
This is the response that typically follows a probative question that is too difficult (or embarrassing) to answer.

1.  Probative?  You have to be kidding.

2.  Too difficult or embarrassing?  Probably just doesn't want to because the merry go round gets boring.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
13.2.67  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.65    9 months ago
I stated CLEARLY many, many, many times

Actually many many many many many many many times, but who is counting.  jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
13.2.69  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.68    9 months ago
Since I refuse to vote for either,

I am not sure if it means who would you not vote for more or who would you not vote for less.  I get confused without my second cup of coffee.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
13.2.71  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.63    9 months ago
Dodging the question. Why so evasive? Can you really just not say who you WILL vote for?

You asked me who I would vote for if Trump is not the nominee.   

How would I possibly know who I would vote for in a Biden vs. _____ matchup?    To answer that question, I need to know who would replace Trump.

For example, I told you that if Haley were to be the nominee, I would vote for her.   The candidate actually matters.   Hello?

You dodge simple direct questions (for obvious reasons) and then engage in ridiculous, dishonest contortions when I answer your questions.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
13.2.72  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.65    9 months ago
I stated CLEARLY many, many, many times neither are good for the country, but you want to pretend I made a claim one is better? Ha!

Not the question.   I asked you:

TiG@13.2.46  The next PotUS will be either Biden or Trump.   Which of those two is better for the nation?

Responding that neither is good for the country dodges the question.   Assuming that neither is good, which of the two is better (or worse, if you prefer)?

No doubt those watching you write all sorts of nonsense trying to dodge a question that can be answered with one word:  'Biden' or 'Trump' will draw a conclusion as to why you are spending so much time with obfuscation rather than simply answer the question.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
13.2.75  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.73    9 months ago
Who will you vote for if Trump isn't on the ballot or is ineligible?

If Trump is not on the ballot then someone else will be the nominee.   Who is that?   I am not going to vote for whoever is the replacement nominee.   I need to know who that is.

Faux obtuseness.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
13.2.77  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @13.2.72    9 months ago
Assuming that neither is good, which of the two is better (or worse, if you prefer)?

Why does it seem to matter so much?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
13.2.79  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.76    9 months ago
And since you have repeatedly claim you will vote for Biden only if Trump is the opponent, who WILL you vote for?

I have not claimed that I will vote for Biden ONLY if Trump is his opponent.   I have stated that I will vote for Biden IF Trump is his opponent.

Why not just flat out admit that you have always considered voting for Biden and will do so no matter the opponent?

Because that is incorrect.   In my first response I gave you an example of Nikki Haley who I would vote for if she replaced Trump.   

Amazing that no matter how clear my responses, you just cannot stop pushing a false narrative.


TiG @13.2.46     The next PotUS will be either Biden or Trump.   Which of those two is better for the nation?
 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
13.2.81  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.78    9 months ago
Hence the endless comparisons even when Trump is out of the equation.

It is kinda like asking which you would prefer to have dropped on your head, an atom bomb or a hydrogen bomb.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
13.2.83  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.43    9 months ago
He can get away with lying thousands of times

You seem to be OK with Biden getting away with lying thousands of times.

Why don't you break out your old "Trump lies xxxxxxx thousands of times"comments and apply them rightly to Biden?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
13.2.84  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @13.2.83    9 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
14  Jeremy Retired in NC    9 months ago

Remember.  Back in 2020 this dumbass claimed he was ‘Constantly Tested’ For Cognitive Decline.  

So lets see the results.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @14    9 months ago

I think the results are among the missing along with the drivers testimony.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
14.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1    9 months ago

The driver's testimony was put out there.  The claims that Trump tied to grab the wheel, like all the other claims the left and Democrats have made, were pure fiction.

There are no results for cognitive testing because none were done.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
15  Nerm_L    9 months ago

Oh, poi, finger lickin' good!  Is Biden pandering to Filipinos with another racial stereotype?

800

(BTW, for the easily aroused, this post gets the /sarc tag.)

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
16  seeder  Sean Treacy    9 months ago

Biden in 2020: it’s “nakedly xenophobic” for Trump to call it the “Chinese virus”

Biden 2024: those savages in Papua New Guinea ate my uncle

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
17  Kavika     9 months ago

Any one with the name Ambrose Finnigen has a good shot at being eaten in Papau. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Guide
18  Drinker of the Wry    9 months ago

I went to a cannibal wedding once.  They had a wonderful reception until it was time toast the lovely couple.

 
 

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