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We Are No Longer a Serious Country

  

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Via:  bob-nelson  •  last year  •  11 comments

By:   Paul Krugman

We Are No Longer a Serious Country



And the world is starting to notice


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This is another way of talking about TACO, perhaps...

Or about yo-yos.

Or about bounce-houses...




S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


512 “If you’re explaining, you’re losing.” This line is usually attributed to Ronald Reagan. Whoever said it definitely had a point, and not just about politics. If you’re trying to explain to people, be they voters or bond investors, that you aren’t really as bad or untrustworthy as you seem, you’re already in deep trouble.

So when I saw Scott Bessent, the treasury secretary, declaring Sunday that “The United States of America is never going to default, that is never going to happen,” my reaction was, “Uh-oh.”

And it’s not just me. For generations investors have treated U.S. government debt as the ultimate safe asset. Whenever disaster strikes — even if it’s disaster largely made in America, like the 2008 subprime crisis — bond buyers pile into U.S. Treasuries, because America is a serious country, and the idea that we would fail to honor our debts was unthinkable.

But are we still that country? Markets seem to have doubts.

Yesterday the Financial Times had a neat chart showing that there used to be a clear relationship between U.S. interest rates and the international value of the dollar. Actually, the chart was a bit too neat: When I set out to reproduce it, I found that the FT chose a time period during which the relationship looked especially clear. Still, it used to be true that when U.S. interest rates rose, so did the dollar, because higher yields pulled in foreign capital. But since Donald Trump returned to power, that relationship has broken down. Instead, we’ve seen a combination of rising interest rates and a falling dollar:



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As many have noted, what we’ve been seeing in recent months, with interest rates and the dollar moving in opposite directions, doesn’t look like what we normally see in the United States, or for that matter advanced nations in general. Instead, it’s the kind of thing one sees in emerging markets, where big market moves often reflect crises of confidence: International investors lose faith, pulling their money out, and capital flight causes both a falling currency and rising interest rates.

Here, for example, is what Mexico looked like during the “tequila crisis” of 1994-5, which involved both soaring interest rates and a plunging peso:



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Why are markets beginning to treat America as unreliable? It’s not just the debt numbers. Yes, we have large debts, but we’re an immensely wealthy country that, among other things, has lower average taxes than most of our peers. So we certainly have the resources to honor our debts.

But do we have the political will? Maybe even more important, do we have the political seriousness ?

Like many economists, I’ve spent a lot of time analyzing the substance of Trump’s tariffs — how much they are likely to raise prices and reduce trade volumes. I’ve also written about the impacts of policy uncertainty, about how hard it is for businesses to make plans when they have little idea what tariff rates will be even a few months from now, let alone over the next few years.

But I wonder whether we’ve spent enough time looking at the policy process — how decisions get made in Trump’s America. Consider: On April 2, “Liberation Day,” Trump announced extremely high tariffs on many countries, the biggest tariff hike in U.S. history. The tariff rates — which differed hugely from country to country — were determined by a formula universally panned as stupid and ridiculous. And this tariff announcement was made with so little planning and forethought that it included taxes on imports from remote islands inhabited only by penguins .

Then, a week later, these tariffs were replaced by a completely different set of tariffs. How did that happen? Two of Trump’s cabinet members were able to beard him in the Oval Office while Peter Navarro, responsible for the original tariffs, was in another meeting .

Does this sound like policymaking in a serious country?

Then there’s the budget bill making its way through Congress. It’s a terrible thing, imposing savage cuts on social programs (and decimating U.S. science) while giving such big tax cuts to the wealthy that it will explode the deficit. But content aside, notice that this hugely important piece of legislation is being rushed through with essentially no hearings or analysis.

And when outsiders, including the Congressional Budget Office and a variety of think tanks — conservative and centrist as well as progressive — have put out the analyses the bill’s sponsors won’t, pointing out the likely effects on debt, health coverage, and so on, the G.O.P. response has basically been to accuse all of the independent analysts of being part of a globalist conspiracy.

Wait, it gets worse. The name of the legislation — not its nickname, its official title — is the One Big Beautiful Bill Act , because that’s what Trump has been calling it. Are we a mature republic with a normal head of state, or are we being ruled by Kim Jong Un in orange makeup?

Why, next thing you’ll be telling me that key policy decisions, leading to layoffs of hundreds of thousands of federal workers and many deaths around the world, have been made by a presidential crony whose erratic behavior may have reflected massive consumption of ketamine, Ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms. Oh, wait .

Imagine yourself as a foreigner considering investing in the United States. You may well know that the One Big Beautiful Bill Act contains a “ revenge ” provision that would allow the U.S. government to impose extra taxes on foreign investors whose home countries have policies America doesn’t like. You probably know that one of Trump’s advisers has suggested the forced conversion of short-term debt into century bonds . Once upon a time everyone would have dismissed these things as stuff that couldn’t happen in America. Now? Who knows?

In a way, the amazing thing is that we haven’t seen even more capital flight. Presumably investors still can’t believe that America has changed so much from the responsible, reliable nation it seemed to be just a few months ago.

But I think they’re headed for a rude awakening.


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Bob Nelson
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1  seeder  Bob Nelson    last year

Keystone Kops led by a mad king. What could possibly go wrong?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Bob Nelson @1    last year

it's more like the keystone fire dept with trumpski's lawless administration ...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    last year

Foreign ownership of US treasuries is at all time high levels. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year

The great majority of US debt is owned by Americans. 

Who Owns the U.S. National Debt?

The Bottom Line

The U.S. national debt is the sum of public debt that is held by other countries, the Federal Reserve, mutual funds, and other entities and individuals, as well as intragovernmental holdings held by Social Security, Military Retirement Fund, Medicare, and other retirement funds.

Many people believe that much of the U.S. national debt is owed to foreign countries like China and Japan, but the truth is that most of it is owed to Social Security and pension funds right here in the U.S. This means that U.S. citizens own most of the national debt.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    last year

The point is foreign countries and foreigners are still snapping up our debt. It undercuts the whole premise of this article.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    last year

I think the average uninformed American thinks that all or almost all of the US debt is owned by China or other un American places , and that is not close to being true.  America owes itself the vast majority of the debt. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    last year

As of Dec 2024 foreign countries own only 15% of US debt.

Charted: Here's Who Owns U.S. Debt

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    last year

It's amazing what a little bit of research will turn up

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    last year
f Dec 2024 foreign countries own only 15% of US debt.

Great. That really has nothing to do with my point. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.6  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    last year
I think the average uninformed American thinks that all or almost all of the US debt is owned by China or other un American places , and that is not close to being true.  America owes itself the vast majority of the debt.

Correct.

Sean's point is also correct.

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NEW YORK, May 16 (Reuters) - Foreign holdings of U.S. Treasuries soared to a record high in March, data from the Treasury Department showed on Friday, rising for a third straight month, as demand for U.S. government debt remained robust a few months after President Donald Trump took office.
Holdings of U.S. Treasuries surged to $9.05 trillion in March, an all-time peak and up more than $233 billion from $8.81 trillion in February. Compared with a year earlier, Treasuries owned by foreigners rose nearly 12%.
Krugman has let his politics overtake his common sense.  Again.
 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.7  Split Personality  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.6    last year
Krugman has let his politics overtake his common sense.  Again.

Like Thurley, his opinions are covered by the law. if you want infallible fact, you will have to discover it first.

Should be a hoot to copyright.

 
 

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