An insurrection by any other name.
A few days ago, ICE agents who were doing their job conducting a raid when confronted by about a thousand protestors. The LA police were called to help protect the federal agents but did not respond for over 2 hours. That led to the President calling in the National Guard. The LA police weren't cowards. The problem was leftist local officials who are against enforcing immigration laws had effectively tied their hands. Both the Governor and the LA mayor expressed objections to the federal government protecting its agents and property with the National Guard. “We will not stand for this,” Bass declared, claiming that ICE’s actions “sow terror in our communities and disrupt basic principles of safety in our city.” She then bragged about being “in close coordination” with lefty “community organizations”
Karen Bass. Activist inciting a riot
Meanwhile things quickly got out of hand as they usually do in democrat run cities. It wasn't until the mob started torching driverless taxis, CA Highway Patrol cars and press vehicles that the LA Police finally began moving to disperse the anti-ICE rioters. Until then, cops were under orders to stand down as the “mostly peaceful protesters” hurled rocks, bricks and fireworks at federal agents.
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Gavin Newsom. A clown looking for a circus
The LA Police Department declared an “unlawful assembly” Sunday night as protesters failed to disperse in the downtown area and basically laughed at the meaningless words.
"ICE operations in LA this week resulted in the arrest of 118 illegal immigrants, including five gang members and those with prior criminal histories of drug trafficking, assault, cruelty to children, domestic violence, robbery, and alien smuggling, according to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Nationwide, 2,000 illegal immigrants were arrested this week.
The Paramount protest comes less than 24 hours after more than 1,000 Los Angeles rioters surrounded a federal law enforcement building and assaulted ICE agents , slashed tires, and defaced buildings."
National Guard to be deployed in Los Angeles County as anti-ICE protests rage: Tom Homan | Fox News
The situation remains tense. Waiting as long as they did, the LA Police gave the protestors plenty of time to recruit the usual reinforcements. The LA Police Chief admitted that he can't handle the mob. The question remains: Where was the LAPD in the early hours of this riot? As long as democrat officials side with the mob and encourage anarchy the inevitable confrontation between civilization and the American left can't be far away.
In other news:
U.S. and Chinese officials are expected to meet in London today for a second round of talks aimed at a truce in the two countries’ trade war.
The U.S. government is also scheduled to submit a legal brief outlining why Trump’s tariffs should be preserved after a trade court ruled many of them unlawful.
Trump’s travel ban on citizens of 12 countries is now in effect.
A man accused of assaulting a federal officer at an immigration protest in Paramount has been added to the FBI's most wanted list.
Police officers and protesters physically fought after a solidarity protest in San Francisco turned violent.
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I couldn't take my eyes off the coffee cup.......NOT!!!
The TV news broadcasts here are at least 60% on Los Angeles. I wonder if the people here are watching in wonderment another Americans vs Americans "Civil?" War.
The people here and the people where you are both are products of a civil war. I can't argue with anyone who believes the US is going through another Civil War.
I'll take "Stupid shit you say when your a liberal shitbag" for $100 Alex.
As we all recall, she was exploring her roots in Africa during the LA fires.
How convenient.
She has an interesting activist past, no wonder we see this unpatriotic behavior,
Disturbing secret history of woke LA mayor Karen Bass resurfaces amid immigration riots | Daily Mail Online
I can see why she liked Fidel Castro.
That eliminates any 1st Amendment protections the "protestors" claim.
It will now that we have a responsible DOJ.
Oh the whining and crying over that will be loud.
Yesterday I tuned into MSNBC. They said the protestors were scared people. I saw them throwing rocks at the police and burning cars. I don't recall ever seeing scared people act like that.
Multiple tours of Afghanistan and Iraq. Seen a lot of scared people running around. NONE acted like that.
They are not scared enough, they think they can get away with it
Throwing rocks, burning cars and assaulting federal officers must be stopped. If the LA Police can't do it the federal government must do it, The President has every right to restore order.
ICE arrested illegal alien felons with deportation orders. That's all it took to start this.
Funny how the "Nobody is above the law" people are suddenly against enforcement of the law.
Or as the stupid fucktards like to call them.....Just some father from Maryland.
Oh, is that about to be exposed.
or future Democrat voters!
Yeah, think about that. None of this was happening until ICE showed up. So it’s logical to consider what ICE may be doing that inspires such anger.
It’s not simply arresting criminals. The general public is not opposed to the arrest of criminals. LAPD does that every day without inspiring protests. So something about ICE and how they present themselves to the public, and/or how they conduct themselves is obviously different.
ICE is responsible for what is happening. You don’t get to terrorize or anger a population and then blame those people for what follows. That’s the bully blaming the victim.
It has been reported, quite logically, that rounding up criminals wasnt meeting Stephen Millers quota goals. A threat was made that agents and field offices that didnt reach quotas would be fired. Now they have started seeking out people at work. Raiding a workplace has the potential of finding a bunch of illegals all at once. The problem is that many of these illegals are long standing members of the community who keep their nose clean and pay taxes. Now their friends and neighbors are seeing them dragged away from their life. It effects people.
Someone who has lived here for 5 or 10 years, or more and is a contributing member of the society should not be deported, that horse has left the barn. Get Congress off their asses and create comprehensive immigration reform.
Perhaps ICE was doing their job..........with no backup from LAPD for 2 hours. And the precinct or HQ was only 3/10 of a mile away........somebody has to do it.
Where?
The President and conservatives supporting the Gestapo like new actions by ICE are the ones responsible for inspiring fear in not only undocumented immigrants but their children, friends, families and neighbors, many of whom are legal American citizens frightened by the new tactics and seemingly callous and inhumane way undocumented immigrants are being treated.
I think there should be a reasonable level of fear of getting caught for undocumented immigrants, they committed a misdemeanor and should pay the consequences. The problem is that the fear conservatives want to instill in them is one of inhumane treatment, so they'll never come back. So, while Democrats want to treat undocumented immigrants with empathy because the vast majority are just hard-working fellow humans trying to build a better life for their families, Republicans seem intent on making undocumented immigrants wish they'd never set foot here which requires being cruel and uncaring bullies.
I think it's also hilarious that rightwing conservatives are desperately trying to label this an "insurrection" because they simply hated being called insurrectionists after Trump supporters clearly attempted to prevent the peaceful transfer of power on January 6th and install their un unelected leader, the LOSER Donald Trump as President which was CLEARLY an attempted insurrection. Only now are they admitting that any violent uprising against authority or a government is technically an insurrection. After January 6th I recall many claiming it wasn't an insurrection because it wasn't successful as if the government successfully being overthrown was required to consider it an "insurrection".
They will do nothing. Immigration is too useful as a political football for both parties. Angst over the chaos gets them elected.
Why does doing their job require a massive military style presence in an otherwise peaceful civilian area?
Maybe if they rolled in not looking like an invading terrorist army, they wouldn’t need backup.
Yes, the “I’m rubber, you’re glue” ploy again. On the one hand, it’s pathetic, but unfortunately, people buy into the gaslighting.
Good point. How about shorts with their asses showing and 86-47 tees so they blend in............./S
Oh no, scarey uniforms that were STILL defied. Maybe if it hadn't taken LAPD 2 hours to respond, they wouldn't have had to even be there.
It does effect people. But these folks being deported are, as you say, illegal.
If we are going to live by the rule of law, we can't just ignore them.
Yes. 100%. 10,000%. That reform should include a massive increase in the quota of legal immigrants we allow. This is a self inflicted problem caused by the warring stupidity of our idealists on either end of the political spectrum.
Translation: Democrats want zero progress on this issue so they can use it for their personal political advantages.
If you deport people who have been living here peacefully and productively for 5 or 10 or 20 years you are going to get "riots".
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Maybe. We still can't ignore the law.
If they're only willing to stay peaceful if we agree to allow laws to be broken, then they need to suffer the consequences.
5 or 10 or 20 years is plenty of time to do the right thing. Now, the right thing is being done and you all are crying about it. Remember - Nobody is above the law.
Lesson: don’t arrest criminals because it might upset other criminals. Those who break the law and have deportation order now have veto power over removal because they can inspire terrorist acts by other foreign nationals.
It stopped being "peaceful" the second something was thrown at LEO's.
Maybe Democrats did what htey were legally obligated to do NONE of this would be happening.
It's amazing how you all are supporting violence...again.
Donald Trump was convicted by a jury of business fraud. The MAGA nation was and is fine with him avoiding the consequences of his crimes. Beyond that there is definitive evidence that he tried to steal the 2020 election. Republicans in Congress let him off the hook on that one. Dont talk about someone elses criminals when you dont care at all about what happens to your own.
America will never have peace while Trump is around. The sooner people like you and Vic realize that the sooner we can move forward as a nation.
He was "convicted" on misdemeanors past their statute of limitations inflated to "felonies" and backed by a pathetic partisan clown judge. Get your facts straight.
No. YOU won't. And even when he wasn't around you all cried about him to distract from the dementia ridden draft dodger Joe Biden.
Using a misdemeanor statute no one has ever been convicted under.
That now the PROSECUTOR in that is facing the exact same charges (only in this one they aren't inflated or fiction).
I know Donald Trump is now your standard for Presidential behavior, but wtf does he have to do with Californians rioting to keep foreign felons in their country and fighting to thwart federal law? Is Trump your hero? Why would you cite him as an authority to justify anything given your vitriolic denunciations of him as a threat to the country?
Trump went through the legal process and would have gone to jail if ordered. Why anyone imagines that gives Jefferson Davis in california the right to oppose the operation of federal law is bizarre beyond belief.
Had to squeeze it in there somewhere....................."But Trump" SMH
Proof? I like how you just assume that the government agents couldn’t possibly have started the violence. Everyone getting shot at or gassed by these terrorists just brought that shit on themselves, right?
What did this lady do to deserve this?
No. As I pointed out, LAPD arrests criminals every day and they do it without protesting or rioting happening.
Even if we accepted that nonsense as true, your argument is about the time it took to hold him accountable - not that he didn’t commit the crimes. So you agree that he’s a criminal, and you don’t care. You’re just mad he got busted for it.
If you paid ANY attention, you would see that the violence started with the rioters. But don't let obvious FACT get in the way of your idiotic narrative.
Once again. Pay attention. There isn't anything false about what I or Sean Treacy stated.
You have the same failing as Jeremy. You don’t dispute that he did the criminal behavior, or that it was, in fact illegal. You just object to him being charged, tried, and convicted for it.
You also don’t object to Trump using the Alien Enemies Act from 1798, which is explicitly intended for a time of “declared war” or “invasion” by a “foreign government” to go after ordinary criminals 227 years later. So it’s ok for Trump to use an obscure, rarely invoked law, which has never been used this way. But when it happens to your fuhrer, suddenly it’s outrageous.
For the second time, where is your proof?
Also, for the second time, explain why that reporter was shot.
I specifically set that aside, so you don’t need to argue it. Meanwhile, you ignored my point. Trump committed crimes, which you do not dispute, and you do not care that he did it.
But that would require letting in more people that don't look like or speak like white Anglo-Saxon protestants, and that is the only group rightwing conservatives are willing to support in America. Everyone else should apparently fuck off because if you don't fit in, if you're not a member of WASP club, then conservatives don't want you here. According to them, there's just not enough room or resources to go around. And they're already pissed off enough about having to deal with the legal citizens who don't conform like the atheists, lgtbq Americans, liberals, progressives, Muslims, Jews and anyone else that doesn't believe America is a white Christian nation. Of course, if you're a white Anglo-Saxon protestant farmer from South Africa, come on in! There's plenty of room and resources!
This has never really been about whether or not someone was 'breaking the law', it's always been about conservatives trying desperately to 'conserve' what they see as 'their' white Christian nation which isn't a melting pot of races, religions and cultures in their minds like with the rest of us, it's a society created by and for white conservative Christian protestants. Where towns should have spectacular Christmas parades and celebrations along with Halloween and Easter where white Christians are in charge of operations but the most you'll see of any other religion is perhaps a Menorah on some shopping mall tabard.
When conservatives shout about Democrats wanting "open borders" what they are really saying is that Democrats want immigration reform to legalize more of those seeking asylum and wanting to make a better life for their families. They see no difference between a Hispanic child brought across the border through no fault of its own wanting to stay, live, and grow up as an American and their own child wanting the same. Sadly, this doesn't seem to be true for conservatives who are desperately trying to prevent any and all increase in the number of legal Hispanic Americans because they see their growing numbers as a threat to their white conservative Christian control in many States, mostly the former confederate States that the rightwing white conservative Christians have controlled since our countries founding.
Put simply, conservatives will never work with Democrats to increase the number of legal immigrants coming to our country because it's not about legality, it's about race, language and culture. If they just approved the citizenship of the 11 - 12 million undocumented immigrants because they know, as do we, that the actual number of gang members, drug runners and rapists is a very tiny fraction of the 11 to 12 million undocumented immigrants in this country, then we'd just have an increase in wonderful hard working immigrants just like the rest of us who have come here over the last two centuries. But they claim, likely because they're massive racists who just refuse to admit it, that it's not about race, it's about refusing to accept criminals and because they are such massive sticklers for the rules, being in the US without going through the proper steps or overstaying a Visa is "illegal". Sure, for most, if it's their first offense, it's just a misdemeanor no different than a speeding ticket. But the way you hear conservatives talk about it, it sounds more like these undocumented immigrants just broke in and stole the cure for childhood cancer and destroyed it for no reason in front of the eyes of thousands of dying child cancer patients, which frankly, I've gotten pretty fucking sick of if you can't tell already.
Like I said, Republicans have ZERO motivation to do that because most of their constituents aren't concerned with creating immigration reform that lets in more immigrants as long as they aren't gang members, drug runners or rapists even though from the way they talk about it, you couldn't be blamed for making such a conclusion. Every time they scream to the heavens about not wanting the gang members, drug runners with "calves like cantaloupes" and rapists, what they're really saying is that they refuse to accept the Hispanic families, women and children who are either seeking asylum in fear of their lives or seeking a better life and are willing to work hard for it. These white scum bag conservative bigots don't care, they just want to "hold the line" and not let any more "others" into what they see as "their America".
Only really, really stupid people do, so it should be fine. Oh, wait, we're talking about Trump supporters... so we're fucked.
Anyone who thinks that Trump is innocent of criminal and totally corrupt unethical behavior is off their rocker. I know a lot of MAGAs including what we see here think that they will "win". They are not going to win. We are not going back to the 1950's or the Mckinley worldview at the end of the 19th century.
Trumpism only ends one way. It disappears.
Not at all. It absolutely was not a crime for a myriad of reasons, including that it was physically impossible for the disclosures to have effected an election that occurred before they were required to be made public. The theory of the crime is, in itself, completely incoherent. Upon appeal before judges who weren't the exemplar of partisan hack, it would have been overturned.
I'm simply pointing out the extraordinarily partisan nature of a prosecution where the prosecutor literally campaigned on getting him and then, like a good stalinist, made up a crime to charge him with, which is why the conviction had zero legitimacy.
But when it happens to your fuhrer, suddenly it’s outrageous.
Lol. Stooping to silly Nazi rhetoric is really desperate but I guess it's necessary to deflect from your pathetic comparison. The problem with the heretofore unused misdemeanor is not that it's old, it's that it's never been used against anyone else, even when Hillary Clinton broke it during the same election. It's the perfect example of a double standard and selective, partisan prosecution.
The ALien Act has, in fact, been used against aliens, unlike the provision required to "get" Trump. By all means, show an example of aliens who you think are covered by the act who Trump hasn't employed it against, and then we can see if he's using a double standard in deploying it. Which Republican is he protecting by not employing it?
Emphatically yes.
Because it was occurring long before the National Guard got there, That's LAPD firing the non-lethal
No one who is rational and sane believes he committed a crime.
It will end in 2028. The Dems will not win either the midterms or the general elections,
But why was she shot? Third time.
Trump would have lost the Trump University fraud case if it had gone to verdict. He settled and paid the plaintiffs 25 million.
Then why complain about the timing of his prosecution?
Maybe. So he might have paid a little more. Or less. What does that matter?
He was guilty.
He was liable. Not guilty. It wasn't a criminal case.
If you take the Democrats and Republicans out of those sentences and substitute "moral people" and "sadistic bastards" in their places, respectively, I think that would be a closer approximation of the truth. There are no good republicans left.
Still no takers?
Ill take a WAG (wild assed guess) then .
from what i have read, this lady is from the Australian press corp who decided to get as close as she could, no issue with that except maybe she had no identifying clothing on stating she was a member of the press , such as i saw 1 photog have . Hi vis yellow vest, big black block letters that said PRESS, and a shit ton of cameras.
From my understanding she as told to vacate the area by LEO since they wanted that particular real estate at that particular moment , known as "clearing the area", even the press is not exempt from having to follow LEOs orders in such a case and to do opposite , well she did find out. She wasnt "special".
what she was shot with most likely, basically a compressed air or CO2 charged paint ball gun that has been modified to expel non lethal projectiles a little faster and a little harder and since its non lethal can operate in a full auto capacity . 3 types of ammo /"bullets , solid , which is what she looks like she was hit with, hollow that is usually filled with some powder or liquid , pepperballs , and lastly weighted hollow balls filled with sand or salt .
In conclusion i have no sympathy for what happened to her , she was not readily identifiable , she ignored police orders to vacate for her "money shot " report from the front lines , and she showed a serious lack of common sense all around.
Yeah the microphone with the bright blue cube and white logo, and the cameraman could easily be mistaken as threatening. /s
So with her back turned to police, while walking away from them, and literally a danger to no one, she needed to be shot?
(at least you addressed it though. Props for that much.)
In this day and age of citizen reporters Who the fuck knows ? and in this day making assumptions on appearances can get someone dead in a hurry. cops dont like that happening to their own in general .
in this day and age a mic means shit a camera man means shit , actual press credentials and appropriate MINIMAL personal protection identifying clothing can make or break a situation she fuckethed about , and foundeth out and got a sore 3rd point of contact with the planet .
Let's don't forget that she was actively committing the crime she prosecuted him for at the time.
I would be interested to read that story. Do you have a link?
Jack as i said it was my understanding , and my understanding comes from 10 years military police training as well as civilian LEO training for 3 yrs in such situations of crowd control and riot reaction. both are pretty standardized as to what happens .
when LEO decides to set lines the first thing that happens is that civilians closest to their lines are told to egress the area by a pre designated route by dedicated teams , that tells those on the lines that people in that area are not confrontational, anyone that deviates from what is being told where to go is looked at with suspicion and a possible point of confrontation . and those on the line are told the safe egress routes as well so they do know where people are suppose to be headed .
My post to Tacos was exactly what i stated it was with the exception of saying she was a aussie reporter, it was a wild assed guess (WAG) but an educated one based on training and experiences i have had in life .antiquated as it may be to current training .
So you look at that woman and think “wow, she seems really dangerous?”
Ashly Babbitt ring any bells?
Not relevant ones. Gotta point?
Don't care.
How did you put it? Oh yeah.. where is your proof?
First off , I wasnt there , second , would I have shot? the answer is no to that , i cant pretend to answer for the one that did shoot, i cant read minds just yet , but best i can say is take it up with the organization involved via a complaint.
another piece of unasked for advice i would have for those in the affected areas or close by that are property or business owners , make sure your insurance is up to date and what exactly it covers .
could always go to koreatown and ask some of the old timers there how to keep rioters looters and vandals from having much of an impact as well.
If you stand between rioting pieces of crap and the police, what do you think that does to your odds of getting hit in the crossfire?
george , in all fairness , she was in an area the cops were clearing for their use in anticipation of confrontation , a staging area as it were . what exactly happened remains unknown except it happened and the resulting outrage .
personal thought on the press and wishing to be as close to the action as they can get and or embedding themselves with either side , they have a certain amount of personal responsibility for their own safety in such matters . the protesters /demonstrators dont care and will shift blame , and the cops are a little occupied with other things to be obligated to protect them in a manner others THINK they are obligated too.
if one is going to insert themselves in a less than optimal situation willingly, they are alone responsible for their safety and what happens is what it is . bet there are a ton of old school parents that let their kids find out about consequences themselves , saying "bet you wont be doing that again "
you tell someone dont do that , youll get hurt .
the other person ...
you say, bet you wont do that again.
More Pulitzer Prize reporting from the Washington Post:
"While calm reigned for much of the day, tensions flared anew in the afternoon as authorities lobbed tear gas at a growing crowd of protesters gathered by the Edward R. Roybal Federal Building."
L.A. protesters clash with officers as National Guard presence draws pushback - The Washington Post
To review, from this statement: The situation was calm. Then authorities shot tear gas into a crowd of unarmed civilians. And then you didn’t have calm anymore.
From your linked story:
So, for simply being out in public and expressing themselves, federal officers shot “tear gas and projectiles” into a crowd of unarmed and unarmored civilians. How TF is that ok?
Don't do the shit if you can't take the hit.
Oh geez. Internet bullies are so lame. I’m sure you know better, but I’m not interested in your fake flex.
The point being the biased reporting, making it seem like LEOs simply started lobbing tear gas cannisters because they got bored after they ran out of beer.
National Guard Randy Manner Condemns Trump's LA Riots Stunt
Former acting vice chief of the National Guard Bureau, Retired Major General Randy Manner , is openly criticizing President Donald Trump for sending National Guard to Los Angeles against the wishes of California Gov. Gavin Newsom .
In a statement reported by Fox News Pentagon reporter Jennifer Griffin, Major General Manner condemned Trump’s actions as “bad for all Americans concerned about freedom of speech and states’ rights.”
Ret. Major General Manner told Griffin:
Griffin posted the comment on her social media feed, but has not yet reported these comments on the Fox News broadcast as of Monday, 8 a.m.
There is a clear line between lawful protest and lawlessness. Btw these protests are not about rights, they are about defying the very idea of law enforcement when it clashes with an evil ideology.
Sorry that I'm not interested in some "General's opinion," which he shouldn't be giving.
Milley, who accepted a pardon to avoid prosecution, participated in the coverup of Biden's incapacity, publicly touting how sharp he was. His opinion could not be any more worthless.
Milley should never have gotten away with all he did. For that Afghan withdrawal alone he should have been fired. It is being looked at now. Beyond that was his flagrant violation of the Military Code:
"The MCM states any service member may be prosecuted under Article 88 (Contempt Toward Officials) if they use “contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Security, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present.”
UCMJ Article 88: Contempt Toward Officials - My Military Lawyers
Gen Randy Manner was the head of the federal agency that co-ordinates NG activities in the US.
There is no one with more expertise on the national Guard.
Donald Trump, the most ignoramus US president in history, is not even in the picture.
So, what?
What does he think of ICE agents being surrounded and the police not showing up for hours?
He doesnt have to agree with your description before he gets to comment on deploying the National guard
What would it take?
An agent being killed?
It's a free country. She "should" say whatever she wants.
Your interest, or lack thereof, is up to you.
That's how this works.
My apologies to her.
Now I think I understand who she is and what she is. Thus, the opinion.
I'm not attempting to validate her views or credentials. She may very well be completely full of shit. I don't know. It doesn't matter who she is, she should say what she thinks she needs to say. Because this is America.
I just think it's important.... especially when things get heated.... that we remain extremely, overly diligent about remembering what it is we're fighting over.
My father, a Korean vet, corrected me once when I voiced my support for a GHWB proposal to ban the burning of the American flag. He said "I didn't go over there to fight for a flag. I went over there to protect the freedoms it represents, and one of those is burning the flag." He was always far wiser than I.
In times like these, I worry it's all to easy to allow the urgency of protecting our country tempt us into shortcuts that compromise the reasons it's worth protecting.
First you corrected me. I sincerely thank you for that. It helped me to understand why such an officer (retired or otherwise) would chime in againts the President like that. I intend to google her, but I'm already getting it.
I just think it's important.... especially when things get heated.... that we remain extremely, overly diligent about remembering what it is we're fighting over.
My father, a Korean vet, corrected me once when I voiced my support for a GHWB proposal to ban the burning of the American flag. He said "I didn't go over there to fight for a flag. I went over there to protect the freedoms it represents, and one of those is burning the flag." He was always far wiser than I.
In times like these, I worry it's all to easy to allow the urgency of protecting our country tempt us into shortcuts that compromise the reasons it's worth protecting.
I understand what you are saying. I want you to understand that back when Gen MacArthur was making policy statements that conflicted with the President's, liberals got so pissed that they enacted a law forbidding military leaders from making statements contrary to the President.
And by the way, I just looked him up:
Retired Major General Randy Manner has been a prominent figure in national security and military operations. He served as the Deputy Commanding General of the United States 3rd Army in Kuwait and held various high-ranking positions in the Pentagon and around the world. Manner has been involved in significant military operations, including the withdrawal of US forces from Iraq in 2010 and the neutralization of chemical weapons in Russia. He has also been involved in military emergency response support during natural disasters and has worked on critical DoD systems and facilities against cyber and physical attacks. Manner's expertise and leadership have been recognized by the military and civilian sectors alike, making him a respected figure in his field
"This is an inappropriate use of the National Guard and is not warranted."
Your all wrong once again. The Posse Comitatus Act shows that Trumps's actions are appropriate and warranted in this case.
Posse Comitatus Act - Wikipedia From the article......
" In the mid-20th century, the administration of President Dwight D. Eisenhower used an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act, derived from the Enforcement Acts , to send federal troops into Little Rock, Arkansas , during the 1957 school desegregation crisis . The Arkansas governor had opposed desegregation after the United States Supreme Court ruled in 1954 in Brown v. Board of Education that segregated public schools were unconstitutional. The Enforcement Acts, among other powers, allowed the president to call up military forces when state authorities were either unable or unwilling to suppress violence that was in opposition to the citizens' constitutional rights. [ 9 ]
Didn't the democrats fight against that too? those stupid fuckers are always on the wrong side of history.
It was the same problem back then. The dems resisting the rule of law.
Another idiot "journalist" standing directly in the line of fire....LOL!
Journalist shot by police "rubber bullet" at LA protests
I think journalists should wear some sort of identification.
Bullshit. She was not "in the line of fire". Watch the video.
She is away from the protesters and away from the line of police officers. She is standing in front of a camera with a microphone clearly labeled with her Australian television station. Some LAPD shithead turns away from the protesters and deliberately shoots her in the back.
There is zero defense or excuse for this.
Look again, I believe she got it in the leg.............
The back of her leg. While her back was turned.
In Texas, that's the same thing.
The point being Jack, it that she is standing between the cops and the rioters, while rounds are being fired. We both know that at that distance, rubber bullets are not very accurate. The fool put herself at risk just to get the "shot"
There is zero evidence on the video to suggest that.
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How? She's already dead!
And would be where then? Yes, that is correct. Grave. Thus...............well you know the rest.
At least she learned to stay in town after creating a disaster.
"DNC Chair Ken Martin vented about party Vice Chairman and Parkland shooting survivor David Hogg to the point of near tears in a recent call with top Dem brass, saying, “No one knows who the hell I am.
“I’ll be very honest with you: For the first time in my 100 days on this job, the other night I said to myself for the first time, ‘I don’t know if I wanna do this anymore,’ ” Martin bluntly admitted in leaked audio of the May 15 Zoom meeting, which was obtained by Politico ,
Martin, who was elected boss of the Democratic National Committee in February, bemoaned the shadow that Hogg cast over him by igniting a firestorm within the party over his plans to fund primary challenges against incumbent Dems."
DNC chair claims David Hogg is making it impossible to lead party: 'No one knows who the hell I am'
OMG the democrats are in a mess. And now they have another riot going on!
So, I take it you're okay with the characterization that all Republicans and religious conservatives were guilty of bombing abortion clinics a few decades ago just like apparently all Democrats are guilty of any crimes committed now during any protest against Republicans, right? Just automatic guilt by association, to which I say, with a laugh and a smile, [ removed ] [ ✘ ] making such a ridiculous assumption.
Lol. Point out Republicans claiming it was the government's fault for legalizing abortion and if abortion was illegal there'd be no clinics to blow up, therefore abortion supporting Democrats are to blame for the clinics blowing up.
Wow. That's some crazy ass logic right up there with the "look at how short that skirt was, she was asking to get raped" scum bag defense. But I can't say I'm surprised, just par for the course I suppose.
I never condone violence. Those who firebomb clinics AND those who under Biden attacked Pro-Life groups should be prosecuted.
Like those that attack the US Congress, destroy property, hurt people (some who die) and illegally occupy the facility who were prosecuted, convicted and sent to jail only to be released in mass by The Apprentice.
That's some crazy ass logic right up there with the "look at how short that skirt was, she was asking to get raped" scum bag defense. But I can't say I'm surprised, just par for the course I suppose.
exactly. Glad you recognize the people blaming ice for enforcing the law are using a scum bag defense and that sadly it’s par for the course.
Glad to see you agree that every single person who violates any law, including trespassing during these protests should be hunted down and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and that doing so should be a primary focus of the fbi for the next three years.
treat the rioters exactly the same as those who rioted on j6.
Correct. They sat in jail for over a year waiting for trials. I want the same for the animals on the left.
I do agree and I also believe that the Jan 6 rioters and insurrectionists shuld still be in prison
Their right to a speedy trial was definitely abused, but the fact of the matter is that they should still be sitting in jail since they were found guilty and sentenced only to be forgiven by The Apprentice
Excellent. Multi-year manhunts, facial recognition and pre trial detention for everyone who committed any sort of crime.
Keeping in mind that the overwhelming majority already completed their sentences when the pardon was issued.
I don't get it Bob.
1) Very few of the 2020 rioters were arrested, let alone prosecuted and you are infuriated over the Jan 6th protestors who were tracked down to the man, some only for trespassing, via visual recognition by the FBI.
2) Right now, in LA we have people waving Mexican flags while burning American flags, yet they demand to stay here despite immigration law. Yet you have no thoughts on that.
Please help us understand.
And that's what make's the outrage over the pardons from the left so phony. THe 2020 rioters resulted in, effectively, mass pardons with refusals to prosecute on the local or federal level and little effort to track down violent offenders who attacked police. It's two tier law enforcement. Trump should not have pardoned people who engaged in violence, but many of them, at least, spent time in jail and money having to defend themselves. By contrast, so many 2020 protesters, even when arrested, were simply let go without charges even being filed or had them almost immediately dismissed.
J6 "protesters" are lucky they werent shot one by one as they climbed through the broken windows of the nation's legislature building. The idea that they should have been let into such a restricted area as innocent "tourists" is beyond absurd. Many of them said at the time that they were there to "stop the steal" and they called the day their "1776". It was an attempt, even if somewhat vaguely designed, to overthrow the US government.
And that is what encourages the left to engage in more rioting.
And so were progressives who attacked police and secret service defending the White House in 2020.
The facts:
Study of 2020 Protests Shows Difference Between Reality and Perception
While the summer of 2020 experienced 100 days of violence and destruction in cities, according to the U.S Department of Homeland Security, the most recent CCC study of 7,305 separate events in May and June suggests that 96.3% of events involved no property damage or police injuries and 97.7% of events had no injuries reported . Pressman spoke with UConn Today about the new report.
You report there was no property damage or injuries in more than 97 to 98% of protests.
When these numbers indicating peaceful protest are all so high, that should really tell us something about what’s happening. It is challenging to be writing about protests, which are ultimately about fighting over power in American society at a time when we are in such a polarized political environment. That is part of the reason why it’s so contested. I’m not a media specialist, but I do fall back on ‘if it bleeds, it leads.’ Certain imagery has an appeal in terms of ratings. Compare the visuals of throwing a trash can through a window with 20 people standing on a sidewalk holding signs and just talking.
Study of 2020 Protests Shows Difference Between Reality and Perception - UConn Today
The facts show that the conservatives perception of the protests in 2020 is VERY different from what actually took place simply because right wing media was only showing the conflicts, the fights, the disparate violence because showing footage of people just peacefully standing there protesting, which was overwhelmingly the case in the Floyd protests that year, doesn't get you the viewers and the ratings like showing the same footage or different angles of a singular violent event to represent the over 7,000 peaceful protests that took place. But I guess I shouldn't expect religious conservatives to ever be honest, they want to double down on their bullshit lies as they shout to anyone who will listen "It's all the violent liberals that should be feared! Not we righteous conservative white nationalists that have been stockpiling weapons and ammo for decades!".
Many charges against 2020 George Floyd rioters were dropped or reduced due to a combination of factors
Yes, exactly.
There is exactly ZERO evidence that liberal bias was one of those factors yet that's all those with less than half-a-brain believe.
So, in conclusion, over 96% of the 7,300 George Floyd protests in 2020 were peaceful protests and most of those arrested were for "crowd control purposes" which meant the police arrested people "based on limited evidence, and prosecutors later determined that there was insufficient evidence to proceed with criminal charges" in most cases.
Of course, Fox News and every other rightwing media company spent 100% of their airtime showing the 4% of protests that turned violent. They also spent very little time covering the rightwing conservative extremists that we know were among those protests that had gone with the specific intent of turning them violent hoping to spark a civil war like Stephen Carillo who shot and killed a security guard at a protest and later a county sheriff. That's a story that didn't get much air on rightwing media as soon as they learned it was likely an alt-right member involved but initially they ran with it as "violent liberals attacking the public!" because fearmongering to their incredible dense gullible base pays their bills.
Only people with no brain could possibly think this is relevant: over 96% of the 7,300 George Floyd protests in 2020 were peaceful protests . It shows a staggering inability to grasp relevance. Even the most dipshit of MAGA supporters isn't stupid enough to argue that because over 99% of election protests were peaceful, J6 rioters shouldn't have been charged with crimes or j6 isn't relevant because of all the election protests that weren't violent.
That's little consolation to small business owners who watched their livelihoods go up in smoke for no reason.
The attempted justifications based on the actual math are moronic, even by lefty protester standards. The more comprehensive ACLED report indicated that 93% of BLM protests were peaceful and only about 7% were "violent", defined as “acts targeting other individuals, property, businesses, other rioting groups or armed actors.”
The trouble is, anything else that erupted into violence one out of every 14 times would definitely be considered violent. There are about 14 NFL games every week. If one per week resulted in riots, looting, arson, or other violence, nobody would claim that was OK. If one of every 14 Cub Scout meetings resulted in a fistfight, we'd think there was a serious problem.
The idea that anything which results in violence that often is somehow "peaceful" is just batshit. $2 billion worth of innocent people's property was destroyed. Pretending that's not violent is just moronic.
Imagine trying to claim that Harvey Weinstein didn't to anything wrong because "97.7% of women reported no raping".
OK, but they were definitely dipshit enough to claim that "98% survival rate" meant Covid wasn't all that dangerous.
Anything else that killed you 1 out of every 50 times would be a massive emergency. Imagine if 1 of every 50 airplanes fell out of the sky.
Americans are generally bad at math, and the more politically committed they are, the worse those math skills tend to be.
Please help us understand.
I gave my view in very simple language - all should be able to understand it.
The rioters in 2020 in Minn, the rioters/insurrectionists on Jan 6/and those rioting and destroying property and assaulting people in LA should all be in jail.
If there is something specific in that sentence that you do not understand, ask a specific question.
That's a hilarious attempt at deflection. /golfclap
Also, where am I arguing that anyone who committed a crime in the 2020 protests shouldn't be charged with crimes or prosecuted? That's just fucking moronic.
The attempted insurrection and beating of capital police and breaking into the Capital building only happened in one location and was the ONLY conservative "protest" that liberals took issue with. And those on the left wanted only those who committed crimes to be arrested and prosecuted. If you listened to conservatives talking about the Floyd protests, you'd be forgiven for thinking virtually every protest was a violent antifa attack on police and businesses. Of course, as the facts show the vast majority were nothing but peaceful protestors wanting their voices to be heard, but you won't hear any conservatives admitting such. They are clearly desperate to frame liberals as dangerous violent elements that should be rounded up and shot because that's the solution most rightwing Christo-fascists eventually come to when they aren't getting their way all the time like the whiny little petulant trigger-happy children they are.
Swing and a miss. Try again.
Whereas what encourages the Rabid Right is Dirty Donny telling them to stand back and stand by, then springing all of them because they were "wrongfully prosecuted"
Hahahahahahahahah
Question of the day: If they love Mexico so much, why the hell are they here?
You can’t love the US and the country you came from? Supposed you felt like you were being targeted because of your heritage?
Mind you, I’m asking you to attempt empathy. I know that’s a dirty word these days.
Oh, sure you can. Do you think those people rioting in LA love the US?
Supposed you felt like you were being targeted because of your heritage?
I know the feeling.
Mind you, I’m asking you to attempt empathy. I know that’s a dirty word these days.
For people who broke the law?
Suppose you are an idiot fleeing one country because you made it a shithole only to make the country you fled to a replica shithole.
Nope. Not going to happen. Just because you evaded prosecution for murder, rape and other crimes in your home country does not mean you can expect the same somewhere else.
Unfortunately, they made that second sign a little too late. Northeasterners are and have been flocking here like migrating shitbirds.
I have seen a very small part of the state where NY policies have been attempted. Mostly in the clusterfuck Wake County and they've failed as they should.
Here in Mecklenburg County too. City, and county have been overrun by opportunists trying to do just as the sign says. They have pretty much fucked up everything. Even the small burb that I live in is rife with asswipes who want to build build build apartments and townhomes galore with little consideration, it seems, to infrastructure needs. Want to get those already wasted tax dollars flowing at the expense of that small-town feel.
Sorry to hear that. I guess I have an advantage living and working in northern Cumberland County.
He is just standing there, holding a flag.
He is holding a Mexican flag. If he Thinks mexico is so good he can go back
AKA the tonic for not getting the last word.
There is a way that the riots could be ended in a matter of a few short hours. All you need are full septic trucks. Just drive them through the riot areas giving the rioters a "shower".
I thought of something similar , just not using septic waste .
I worked for county weed and pest a couple yrs ago for a summer going around spraying weeds and invasive plants , we had an added dye called prussian blue dye we added so where we sprayed was visible , this dye is so potent it takes a small 1/8th oz to heavily dye 100 gals of water .
this stuff was almost indelible and took forever to get off ones hands if it accidently was contacted , so we wore disposable rubber gloves , thing is some jolly joker on the spray crew of 15 people , would put pin pricks in the middle fingers of the nytile gloves only on the middle fingers .
get done mixing , take off the gloves and it look like you spent the day finger banging smurffette, never did find out who did it , but it was funny as hell seeing who had blue middle fingers at the end of shift . this dye also reactivated whenever it got wet and bled through clothes something out of this world .
water cannon anyone?
A mixture of both would work perfectly. Can find them by the dye and the stench.
Add this bit of the American farmer doing their part............
Maybe when the shit dye runs out.
The accent is on American with Irish Americans. They didn't burn American flags.
The old Boston Cops would have put that riot down in minutes and the Chief wouldn't be talking like a Soviet bureaucrat.
The incident i tuned in to on CBS, was all LAPD, no guard involved at all.
it involved an overpass near alameda st exit . the incident was rather interesting to me because of the escalation involved . watching the "protesters pelt the pd with concrete , wondering here they were getting it , to having that answered by watching them bust up the sidewalk. then the city owned E-scooters being dropped from the overpass, counted at least a half dozen , they are not cheap. all tax payer funded. of course there was the improvised use of pyrotechnics ( fireworks) reminded me of my youth and the bottle rocket wars , but use of the star cluster mortar rounds was interesting too.
The Darwin moment came when someone decided a molotov cocktail against the equine mounted units would be an appropriate thing to do . the device deployed in a less than satisfactory manner with a line of flame leading right back to who used it .
now the next may just be my imagination , but i swear i saw the horse and rider barrel and run over the subject (thats gonna leave a mark i thought ) and i think watching the replay i saw the horse squat and empty its bladder on said individual for a second (insulting i know ). Then watching said well grounded individual being taken to the street and flexicuffed both hands and feet, and summarily dragged and deposited at the curb.
after that i saw the improvised barricade being build and fires being attempted to being started in it , when i saw the dumpster rolled in , i was this wont end well, and decided it as bed time .
Thinking about it while i wrote this i realized , there is a full moon in the next couple days , fucketh about and findeth out .
I thought I saw that too. I like running that image through my mind.
after that i saw the improvised barricade being build and fires being attempted to being started in it , when i saw the dumpster rolled in , i was this wont end well, and decided it as bed time .
Those are usually professional protestors. Now receiving supplies:
Did you hear when one of the CBS commentators tried to make a distinction between a riot and an insurrection?
Now they are getting "tactical gear".
Who is behind it all?
Good question.
Soros?
Then we have Kamala Harris standing with the rioters...again:
Kamala Harris Finally Responded to LA Riots
Does she ever get tired of being on the wrong side of....EVERYTHING?
We really dodged a bullet this past November.
I guess we can conclude that insurrection is in her blood.
Does this mean she is now the favorite to beat Newsom for the governor's job?
Newsom has term limited out as Gov, he has to find a new gig.
Then...
Newsome must have heard somebody ask "how stupid can one person be" and said "Hold my beer".
NONE of this is looking good for the Democrats.
Thank you. I wonder what Job he is thinking about?
I have a few recommendations.
Isn't that ironic?
Newsom concerned about Sovereignty.
I think the democrats have reverted back to "States Rights."
I think I know
Yeah, we see the last time Democrats went with "states rights".
We had another Republican they hated in the White House.
none that i would find him suitable or be able to vote for him for .
Well I know where he can find a trash can with wheels and a broom that he can finally use to cleanUp the streets. He hasn't been able to find a way so far.
just remember , his aunt is close to retirement , be it voluntary or forced , so there will be an available seat in congress in DC.
Curious what fundamental right or freedom following the law and deporting illegals takes away from actual citizens
Deporting illegals improves things for actual citizens
I honestly don't see a down side to deporting illegals. It puts money going back to US citizens and programs to support them, crime rates decrease, safety increases, quality of life increases. (unless you live in a shithole like California)
You would think the idiot rioters and some of the dem politicians would have a clue
Yep
We knew they didn't. How many times have they voted in a Democrat and paid the price (literally) for it? The mouth breating idiots just keep doing it.
Well not calling them illegal immigrants explained why she failed so miserably as the border czar. Dodged a bullet? We dodged a cannon shell.
More mostly peaceful riots from the left that Newsome is suing to have them continue
He says he cares about his community. It is burning ... again.
This is blowing up any attempt to make him look more like a centrist candidate for 2028. The real Newsome is back and looking more like a far left wing nut job than ever.
He's cooked.
Breaking:
"Roughly 500 Marines are deploying to the Los Angeles area to protect federal buildings and personnel in the wake of weekend protests over immigration that have already led President Trump to federalize National Guard troops, defense and congressional officials said.
The troops, which are assigned to 29 Palms, Calif., won’t engage with protesters, the officials said."
Marines Are Deploying to Los Angeles Area - WSJ
pretty much like embassy guard duty, there for protection of the property and assets , to include government employees .
like how i think the NG will be used if they are sent out with ICE, they will simply be a line between protesters and the government agents doing their jobs . and will likely have apprehension and detention authority on violators with the proviso they are turned over to other authorities , thing is those "other authorities" likely wont be city ,county or state , but federal LEO to face federal charges .
I think that is why putting down the riot has been so slow. The local authorities still control the one group tasked with confronting the mob: The LA Police Department. They have clearly been restrained.
Yesterday as I watched the riot coverage from MSNBC I noticed that the National Guard was confined to protecting the single ICE compound. Today, just minutes ago, they showed the same area, and the Guard had secured a block length perimeter on each side of the building. I think that location is now secure. Maybe the Marines can come in and relieve the beleaguered LA Police.
Once this is over, we need to find out who if anyone funded the protestors and above all else THOSE ARRESTED MUST BE PROSECUTED.
"A Boston judge accused of helping an illegal alien evade U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and escape out of the courthouse in 2018 is facing a misconduct hearing on Monday.
The judge, Judge Shelley M. Richmond Joseph, is currently facing a civil misconduct charge from a 2018 incident in which she allegedly helped Jose Medina-Perez, a Dominican national who had been deported twice, leave Newton District Court undetected. Medina-Perez, who had been prohibited from re-entering the United States until 2027, had appeared in court on drug possession charges and a fugitive warrant from Pennsylvania and an ICE agent was waiting to take him into custody. "
Boston judge accused of helping illegal alien evade ICE agent, escape courthouse faces hearing
Prosecute him!
"California Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) has reportedly been charged with a $68,000 fine from the Federal Election Commission (FEC) due to alleged financial misconduct by her 2020 campaign committee. The FEC reportedly found that the committee failed to report contributions accurately, accepted excessive contributions, and made unlawful cash disbursements. The Citizens for Waters campaign will pay the fine and send its treasurer to mandatory training."
Rep. Maxine Waters campaign smacked with $68K fine for violating election laws
Keep it coming!
But why does James Brown look so pissed?
Good one LMAO.
Anyone committing any violence should be taken away immediately. If they are citizens they should be charged. If they are illegals they should get on a big yellow bus headed for Mexico.
Final thoughts:
Tonight, may be the high-water mark for the American left in what once was ironically called "The city of angels." At the present time radical reinforcements have arrived, and masks are being handed out. Local authorities refused to protect ICE agents enforcing immigration law. The same local officials refused to put down the riot as soon as it got out of hand.
However, the tide is already turning. There is now 2,000 National Guardsmen guarding federal property. A detachment of Marines is on the way.
Gov Newsom picked a fight with President trump and tried baiting Tom Homan. For a minute he reminded me of Governor Wallace standing in the schoolhouse door. One can only hope that he will be the democrat's nominee for the next presidential election.
Then there was mayor Karen Bass who said that if ICE agents weren't in LA enforcing immigration law none of this would have started. In other words, leftwing mobs get to decide what laws are enforced. A very unique logic.
The protestors know the governor and mayor are on their side, what they are underestimating is the federal response. The President has the authority and the will to put these leftist groups down and I believe he will prevail.
"Good night and good luck."
If you think you're Edward R. Murrow reincarnated, will you go after the anti-commies on this site?
As you know Edward R. Murrow helped take down Joe McCarthy. I think that was because Murrow kept hearing about the list McCarthy said he had but never produced. Eventually Murrow got it in his head that there was no list and that led to him going after McCarthy. I'm certain that Murrow wasn't political despite what George Clooney might like to read into it.
I will go after the progressives.
Yep, I know it. I've watched Clooney's movie, and not long ago posted 4 seeds about the movie and the issue - did you not see them?
Murrow was , in the estimation of most observers, center-left politically, which makes the invocation of his name and image in this column, by this author, a total oxymoron.
Center-left them means far right today.
Who cares what his politics were - he was a benefit to America, and a great example for journalism that you may never see again..
His politics matter when someone here is turning them upside down for his own benefit.
Thankfully I'm not enslaved to politics like so many Americans are.
I vaguely remember it
I also vaguely remember Murrow. He had a broadcast during the second world war that my mother remembered. I only knew of him during the 50s. By then he was doing news, interviews and TV shows. I was too young to recall the issues, but it was his style that I never forgot. He would be dressed to the 9s for his morning broadcast and by late evening he would give his analysis of world events, his suit jacket off, his tie loosened and the room full of cigarette smoke. He had a huge persona.
Wow. Eric Adams does in fact have some sense:
Sure Eric............
Democrats embrace of illegal immigrants has driven legal immigrants to Republicans. There's been a 40 swing towards Republicans since 2020, with legal immigrants now favoring Republicans by 8 points.