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The strange bedfellows driving — and winning — the war on porn

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  perrie-halpern  •  last year  •  23 comments

By:   Pilar Melendez

The strange bedfellows driving — and winning — the war on porn
Anti-pornography crusaders are on a winning streak

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


Whatever one thinks of the debate over porn, the success of the anti-porn movement is clear.

Since 2023, at least 19 Republican states have passed laws requiring websites to confirm a user's age, either by scanning their face or checking a government-issued ID, before allowing them access to explicit material.

Despite their wins, those leading the anti-porn movement aren't exactly unified on what victory looks like.

Evangelical conservatives like Russell Vought, a Project 2025 co-author and the White House Office of Management and Budget director, support the outright criminalizationof pornography. Feminists like Dines, who believe Lee's obscenity bill is problematic and wish to move away from the moralistic argument against porn, want the adult industry to be regulated into obsolescence.

"I think Pornhub has realized the time is coming for regulation, and they're fighting it tooth and nail," Dines said, adding the success for her is a porn industry so restricted by regulation that it fades from public view.

For porn companies, the fear isn't reform — but what reform looks like for the loudest voices against the adult entertainment industry. Alex Kekesi, the head of community and brand at Pornhub, said while her company agrees with the spirit of the laws that children should not have access to sexually explicit content, they worry the privacy-invasion laws will only push people toward unsafe, unregulated corners of the internet.

"Having to show your government ID to access something online would make anyone uncomfortable," Kekesi said. "There are real concerns when it comes to privacy."

Dines, however, is not too worried about the privacy issue, noting that if users were concerned about privacy, they would not be visiting Pornhub and other adult sites in the first place. For now, though, as the porn industry awaits the Supreme Court decision, its adversaries realize there is a line of sight to winning the war on porn.

"I want to see a shift where pornography isn't seen as cool," she said.


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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  Vic Eldred    last year

It is a worthwhile cause.

The great comedian Norm Macdonald once confessed that he had once watched a porn movie when he was doing standup comedy on the road.

He said: "The first 20 minutes was really exciting, then he suddenly became bored and finally ashamed."

I though a little humor would be welcome around here.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year

online porn is the best way to infect your computer with malware. let it's vast market share of christo-fascists take the hits ...

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Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
1.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  devangelical @1.1    last year
online porn is the best way to infect your computer with malware

[Unsubstantiated................][✘]

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
1.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.1    last year

[✘]

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
1.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  devangelical @1.1    last year

The ongoing epidemic of pornography in the church

The ongoing epidemic of pornography in the church – Baptist News Global

Pornography use grows among Christians, study says, urging church to offer healing

Pornography use grows among Christians, study says, urging church to offer healing | Baptist Messenger of Oklahoma

(It's a grower, not a show'er)

FactChecker: Do Christian Men Watch More Pornography?

The survey found that approximately two-thirds (64 percent) of Christian men admit they view pornography at least monthly. Based on that claim, you might be alarmed by the thought that two-thirds of the men who you think are faithfully following Christ are looking at porn at least a dozen times a year. But that’s not really what the survey found.

(and the other 36% of Christian men prove they have no problem lying...)

According to Pornhub, the states with the longest time spent per visit on their site are Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Louisiana, Tennessee, Missouri, West Virginia, Indiana, and (the non-state) District of Columbia. But the time differences are rather trivial. The difference between the state that had the shortest time spent on the site (Kansas, with 9 minutes and 59 seconds) and the state with the longest (Mississippi, with 11 minutes and 26 seconds) is only 87 seconds.

(You go Mississippi!!!)

Of men aged 18 to 49, 67 percent say  pornography is morally acceptable.  And of all Americans who say religion is not very important, more than two-thirds (76 percent) find pornography morally acceptable.

FactChecker: Do Christian Men Watch More Pornography?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.3    last year

Are those good Christian wives not giving their men what they need? Not surprising since they were taught from the time they could talk that sex was bad

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.4    last year

thumper wives get wedding rings on their wedding day, the whiplash collars arrive by mail a few days later ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.6  devangelical  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.3    last year

thumper porn will eventually be the sustaining income stream for evangelical churches. they're already fully engaged in it, they might as well turn on the cameras while they're doing it ...

they can name their new pay site ... only geezus fans ...

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
1.1.7  Hallux  replied to  devangelical @1.1    last year
online porn is the best way to infect your computer with malware.

Once upon a time, yes. However, the porn industry today is well aware of the damage that can be done to their bottom line and being good capitalists undoubtedly bleach malware/etc from their sites constantly. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.8  devangelical  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.1    last year

somewhere in NK, china, russia, or iran, there's video libraries of maga's spanking their monkeys. shot by the cameras on their own laptops while watching porn, without their knowledge ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.9  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @1.1.7    last year

at my age, I'll just have to take your word for that ...

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
2  Hallux    last year

Always liked Lenny Bruce's take: Pornography is watching poor people have sex, eroticism is watching rich people have sex.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
3  Nerm_L    last year

Any discussion of pornography seems rather bizarre during a month long celebration of Pride in sexual activity and sexual orientation.  Haven't we designated the month of June as a celebration of self identity defined by genitals and sexual intercourse?    

Pornography cannot be bad if it encourages our children to explore and discover their true gender identity and sexual orientation.  Banning pornography would cause great harm to our children.

For the obtuse, easily misled, and those who are politically motivated:

512

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Nerm_L @3    last year

you're not very good at it. For starters, sarcasm should be funny. Two it should based on truth

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1    last year

I feel his pain. it's our fault. there's been a severe lack of weekly church sex scandals lampooned on NT lately ...

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
3.1.2  Nerm_L  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1    last year
you're not very good at it. For starters, sarcasm should be funny. Two it should based on truth

Depends upon one's point of view, doesn't it?  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
3.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.2    last year

Most definitely does....................

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.2    last year

from my point of view you need lessons in Sarcasm 101

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.1.5  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1    last year
For starters, sarcasm should be funny.

Sarcasm should be sarcastic, humor should be funny.  Sometimes sarcasm can be funny and sometimes humor can be sarcastic, but it is not required.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4  JohnRussell    last year

I dont have any real objection to porn as long as the viewers realize and accept that it is a fantasy, and the participants do so willingly. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
4.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @4    last year
I dont have any real objection to porn as long as the viewers realize and accept that it is a fantasy, and the participants do so willingly. 

And with that said it should be pointed out that consent can only legally be given as an adult. Child pornographers should receive the death penalty and those who enjoy that shit should be castrated.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1    last year

... uh, wouldn't that wipe out most of the born again evangelicals and their affiliates?

 
 
 
Freefaller
Professor Quiet
5  Freefaller    last year

Maybe we could have something like a morality police force that other successful countries like Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, Sudan etc can guide us to the correct path

Or as another thought if you don't approve of porn don't watch it

 
 

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