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New York City democrats turn to Socialism

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  last year  •  164 comments

New York City democrats turn to Socialism
Mamdani’s economic populist proposals to make life more affordable — by soaking the rich with higher taxes to pay for freebies — resonated with blue-collar voters, including bus and subway workers he represents, Samuelsen said.


It finally happened. The once great city of New York, now an expensive place with high crime and traffic congestion is now facing the prospect of a Muslim, Socialist mayor.
 Zohran Mamdani, a 33-year-old Democratic Socialist who campaigned against New York’s affordability crisis, stunned the former governor Andrew Cuomo in the Democratic primary for New York City mayor. It wasn't a complete shock to those of us who expect New Yorkers to elect the most radical possible candidate.

Of course, others might say, it is only the primary.  It is the democrat primary. That it all that counts in that shell of a city. This is the second time a young Socialist won a key election in NY. AOC won a congressional district when she toppled former Congressman Joe Crowley in the 2018 Democratic primary. Mamdani ran on freezing rents, offering free public transit, launching city-run grocery stores and similar Socialist ideas.

The good news is for Republicans both in New York state and the nation. New York state does have a number of competitive House seats where the GOP could seek to put Democratic nominees on the defensive over Mamdani’s positions. Nationwide Socialism is still toxic to traditional decent Americans.


In other news:

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Trump is at NATO’s annual meeting in The Hague, pressing other member nations to raise their military spending.

The cease-fire between Israel and Iran appeared to hold after President Trump lashed out at them for firing on each other.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested 11 Iranian nationals illegally in the United States over the weekend. ICE also arrested a U.S. citizen who threatened to kill ICE law enforcement while harboring an illegal alien from Iran.


There is some debate going on without much verification about how much the US strikes have set back the Iranian regime's nuclear program. Much of it is fostered by those who hate Trump. Meanwhile, Iran publicly admitted for the first time Wednesday that its nuclear sites were “badly damaged.”

The American B-2 warplanes that bombed Fordo, Iran’s best-protected nuclear site, flew for 37 hours straight.

Four astronauts took off for the International Space Station, including the first to visit it from Hungary, India and Poland.

Amazon is building one of the largest computers ever on 1,200 acres of cornfield in Indiana. It will power an A.I. system intended to match the human brain.

U.S. officials have been asking countries around the world to take deportees who are not their citizens. So far, seven countries have agreed to take deportees.

Within the next few days the SCOTUS could hand the President a massive victory when it decides on the extent of authority of district judges.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    last year

Good morning and welcome to the news.

The Mercury has been rising for much of the country

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Take a look at Raleigh NC. It looks like a very hot summer in our future.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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1.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year

while the rest of y'all are getting swamp butt, here .......

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.1    last year

If I could I'd spend the rest of the month out there.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year
Nationwide Socialism is still toxic to traditional decent Americans

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.2    last year

“The prospects are dim for a society that makes mascots out of the unproductive and condemns the productive.” — Walter E. Williams

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.3  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year

Wait until the hurricanes hit, then those Florida folks suddenly love socialism to get their houses rebuilt. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @1.3    last year

I don't see where home-owners insurance equates to Socialism. Evidently you mean the government stepping in when Insurance companies refuse to offer insurance to people who want to live right on the water in a place like Key West. There are certain times when taking huge risks shouldn't involve other people's money.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.3.2  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.1    last year

Which is socialism... 

This country has always been a bit socialist and it always will be... That's reality.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    last year

The idea that socialism is not "decent" is absurd, and I am not a socialist. 

Socialism is a utopian idea of how society should be organized and function. Would you describe libertarianism as "indecent" and not "traditional"?  They are both on the same spectrum, as all political philosophies are. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    last year
The idea that socialism is not "decent"

I didn't say anything about Socialism being decent or indecent. I did imply that decent people, who believe in respectable or moral behavior might be against a system that robs people of their creativity, desire for improvement and motivation to work.

BTW I'm still trying to figure out "got what I deserve."  What was it I got?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    last year

To take your argument to its logical conclusion we could say that someone who wants to lay on a beach all day and never work is unmotivated, but they are hardly immoral. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    last year

Unmotivated is not the same as lazy. Someone who wants to lay on a beach all day and never work is lazy. That is a human weakness.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    last year

Personally I think that someone who exploits the work of others for personal gain is more "immoral" than someone who opts out of society altogether. 

Who is more immoral to you, someone who wants to lay on the beach all day or a business owner that commits wage theft against his employees?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    last year
Personally I think that someone who exploits the work of others for personal gain is more "immoral" than someone who opts out of society altogether. 

Adam Smith's hidden hand of self-interest. The motivation might be greed or self-improvement, the result of that tends to be JOB GROWTH AND THE BETTERMENT OF OTHERS AS WELL.


Who is more immoral to you, someone who wants to lay on the beach all day or a business owner that commits wage theft against his employees?

The lazy of course.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    last year
Who is more immoral to you, someone who wants to lay on the beach all day or a business owner that commits wage theft against his employees?The lazy of course.

I'm not surprised you think being lazy is a greater sin than being a thief robbing the less fortunate. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    last year

Entrepreneurship is the creation or extraction of economic value. It involves dedication and risk. 

 
 
 
George
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2.1.7  George  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    last year

Please describe how a successful person is robbing from the less fortunate? Their lazy ass isn't the fault of someone who is successful. worthless takers are worthless by choice.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  George @2.1.7    last year

First of all, it is not true that EVERY successful person is ROBBING from someone less fortunate.   Nor is is true that everyone who is less fortunate is a "lazy ass".

That aside, are you aware of how exploitation works?   Let's use Trump as a fine example.   Trump is notorious for cheating his contractors.   He would use them to build real estate and then claim that they did a poor job and thus reduce payment or refuse to pay entirely.

A supporting article:

During the Atlantic City casino boom in the 1980s, Philadelphia cabinet-builder Edward Friel Jr. landed a $400,000 contract to build the bases for slot machines, registration desks, bars and other cabinets at Harrah's at Trump Plaza.

The family cabinetry business, founded in the 1940s by Edward’s father, finished its work in 1984 and submitted its final bill to the general contractor for the Trump Organization, the resort’s builder.

Edward’s son, Paul, who was the firm’s accountant, still remembers the amount of that bill more than 30 years later: $83,600. The reason: the money never came. “That began the demise of the Edward J. Friel Company… which has been around since my grandfather,” he said.

Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will "protect your job." But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades – and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.

There is little recourse when dealing with wealthy assholes.   Deep pocket litigation pretty much takes the peaceful means to be properly compensated out of the equation.   So are these smaller companies and workers who get stiffed "lazy asses" and "worthless takers"? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  George @2.1.7    last year

Do you know what wage theft is?  It doesnt seem you do. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.8    last year
First of all, it is not true that EVERY successful person is ROBBING from someone less fortunate. 

I didnt say that every successful person is robbing from someone less fortunate, I asked Vic what is immoral, a lazy person or a business owner who steals from his workers wages? 

  • Paying less than the legal minimum wage
  • Not paying overtime
  • Forcing workers to work off the clock
  • Violating minimum wage laws
  • Improperly classifying employees as independent contractors
  • Failing to pay holiday entitlements or regular leave
  • Not paying employees at all for their work duties.
 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.10    last year
I didnt say that ...

I was not referring to your comment but rather to George's interpretation:

George @2.1.7 ☞ Please describe how a successful person is robbing from the less fortunate?
 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.12  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    last year
Personally I think that someone who exploits the work of others for personal gain is more "immoral" 

That would describe people on public assistance and people in office who redistribute the fruits of that work.  Are you sure you want to argue this?

Who is more immoral to you, someone who wants to lay on the beach all day or a business owner that commits wage theft against his employees?

Describe what you think "wage theft" is.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.13  Jack_TX  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.8    last year
First of all, it is not true that EVERY successful person is ROBBING from someone less fortunate.   Nor is is true that everyone who is less fortunate is a "lazy ass".

Voice of reason.

Trump is notorious for cheating his contractors.

He does have that reputation.

   He would use them to build real estate and then claim that they did a poor job and thus reduce payment or refuse to pay entirely.

Sadly, this isn't that uncommon. Many of my contractor clients say that they have certain customers for whom they have to build in an extra cost for the inevitable end of job cheating they know to expect.  The customer feels like they got away with something and the contractor never expected to collect that last payment anyway.

In Texas, if it gets really bad, they can file a contractor's lien.  I don't know what NY rules are.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.14  TᵢG  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.13    last year
Sadly, this isn't that uncommon.

Indeed.  

Back in the late 80's Ford Motor Company had a policy of deferred payment to its supply chain.   They got so good at holding back payments that they started degrading their supply chain (putting suppliers out of business).

The most natural order is for those with power to exploit those without.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.15  Jack_TX  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.14    last year

It's interesting to hear people who sell to Walmart talk about that experience.  The Walmart people are always trying to cut costs and prices, but they always try to make sure the suppliers maintain profit.   Interesting contrast.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.16  TᵢG  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.15    last year

Smart business.   Squeeze, but not so tight as to cause harm.

The best way for a company like Walmart to act is to focus on volume discounts.   That is a win-win approach.   Pretty sure that is how they operate.   That is a good strategy for the long term.

But, that said, Walmart is well known to apply heavy price pressure on its suppliers knowing that suppliers will deal with it due to the massive exposure Walmart provides.   As long as suppliers can make a profit, it makes sense to stick with that massive Walmart market exposure.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.17  Jack_TX  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.16    last year
The best way for a company like Walmart to act is to focus on volume discounts.   That is a win-win approach.   Pretty sure that is how they operate.   That is a good strategy for the long term.

Yeah. Exactly.  At least that's what I'm told.  I've never sold anything in a WalMart, so I've just heard about it from friends and clients that do.

Apparently they get very hands on.  If they're looking for a 5% price reduction, they will analyze your business and tell you where you can find it.  Doesn't always go over very well, but as you say, the amount of business they provide enables them to do it.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.1.18  MrFrost  replied to  George @2.1.7    last year
Please describe how a successful person is robbing from the less fortunate?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.19  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.18    last year
At least $1.9 million of the donations to veterans groups that presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump reported on Tuesday came in last week, after Trump began responding to intense media scrutiny of his earlier claims about raising in excess of $6 million for veterans. Trump said on Tuesday that his efforts raised a total of $5.6 million. NPR reached out to all 41 of the groups Trump listed as receiving donations. Of those, 31 responded. One group, the Navy SEAL Foundation, said it does not disclose details of its donations. The other 30 confirmed the amounts Trump reported Tuesday, accounting for $4.27 million of the $5.6 million total.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @2    last year
Socialism is a utopian idea of how society should be organized and function.

The problem with all utopian ideas is that you have to force people to comply.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.1  JBB  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2    last year

Our governments collects taxes in exchange for general services provided as part of a voluntary compact between the voters and our government based on laws made by our representatives. Tax policy is merely math. Both parties know a healthy middle class is where the votes come from. Extreme wealth inequality is not sustainable at current levels. The very rich and big corporations are going to have to pay more in NYC if voters say so  .

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.2  Jack_TX  replied to  JBB @2.2.1    last year
Our governments collects taxes in exchange for general services provided as part of a voluntary compact between the voters and our government based on laws made by our representatives.

Obviously.

Tax policy is merely math.

Obviously not.  It's been the primary tool for ideology implementation for decades.

Both parties know a healthy middle class is where the votes come from. Extreme wealth inequality is not sustainable at current levels. The very rich and big corporations are going to have to pay more in NYC if voters say so  .

The very rich have already demonstrated they can fuck off to Florida in a flash. They don't need NYC.  The big corporations will just raise prices to include the new tax.

As of the 2023 report. NYC has 350,000 vacant units that are not available for rent.  They only have 103,000 vacant and available for rent.  The housing problem isn't that rents are too high, it's that rent isn't high enough to get landlords interested.

The inconvenient truth that socialists cannot admit is that their policies eventually cause Atlas to shrug.    

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.3  JBB  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.2    last year

I've lived in Dallas and NYC. You can keep Texas...

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.4  Jack_TX  replied to  JBB @2.2.3    last year
I've lived in Dallas and NYC. You can keep Texas...

I guess you believe that's pertinent somehow.

The fact is that the votes are in and people are leaving NY by the tens of thousands every month, headed for places like FL, Texas, the Carolinas or a dozen other states.  Nobody wants to imagine how bad things can get, but then we look at Detroit.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.5  JBB  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.4    last year

original You are talking shit. How wrong could you be?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.6  Jack_TX  replied to  JBB @2.2.5    last year

You've posted an uncited graph arguing a different point than I made.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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Question of the day:

Is it a valid complaint?

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GregTx
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3.1  GregTx  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    last year

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Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    last year

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Vic Eldred
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4  author  Vic Eldred    last year

"Over 1,500  Iranian nationals  who illegally entered the U.S. at the southern border were arrested during the Biden administration, and nearly 50% of them were released back into the country, according to a senior U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) source."


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Biden admin released 729 Iranian nationals amid terror concerns | Fox News

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    last year

The other day Trump called the Iranians a great people. I posted a video yesterday of everyday life in Tehran, and it should open the eyes of any American who believes it is a backwards primitive place filled with nothing but anti-American haters. 

The point being as far as you know 99% of these 729 people may have come to America to escape their regime at home, not to spread it. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    last year
The point being as far as you know 99% of these 729 people may have come to America to escape their regime at home, not to spread it.

Or, [✘] they are here as terrorists.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    last year

I separate the Iranians who have come to the US into two categories:

First there are those who fled Iran just before Carter allowed the Shah to be toppled. Those people saw what was happening. they came here and I believe most of them flourished under our system. Many went into business, raised families, assimilated and I truly believe became patriotic Americans.

The second group are what I would label as "the students." They were among the first to oppose the Shah and btw it ties in with our little discussion of Socialism. They wanted a "Utopia" similar to the European Socialist model. A bit different that the Islamic regime that eventually took power. They are not going to assimilate and become Americans.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5  Buzz of the Orient    last year

There is a reason why I really hope this guy loses, and it's not because he's a Muslim.

Jerusalem Post / Israel News

Who is Zohran Mamdani, NYC Democratic mayoral candidate with anti-Israel stances?

Mamdani's support for Palestine is a long-time belief and one which he has actively campaigned on.

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NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani against backdrop of pro-Palestinian protest in New York. (illustration)  (photo credit: REUTERS/Caitlin Ochs/File  Photo, Yuki Iwamura/Pool) 
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There is some debate going on without much verification about how much the US strikes have set back the Iranian regime's nuclear program. Much of it is fostered by those who hate Trump. Meanwhile, Iran publicly admitted for the first time Wednesday that its nuclear sites were “badly damaged.”

If ANYONE on this site trusts anything that the Iranian government says, please send me a PN and I will benefit you with the deal of a lifetime - for only $1000 I will transfer to you a 1% share of the toll booth proceeds from the superhighway between Chengdu and Chongqing.  When I get your PN I will send you the SWIFT bank transfer code for my bank account here. 

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"Amazon is building one of the largest computers ever on 1,200 acres of cornfield in Indiana."

Will it make the cornfield a "Field of Dreams"?   I just watched the movie again yesterday - had not watched it for a really long time.  It's a "good feeling" movie to watch again these days. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    last year

Thank you for that Buzz.

I hope ALL New Yorkers are paying attention.


Will it make the cornfield a "Field of Dreams"?   I just watched the movie again yesterday - had not watched it for a really long time.  It's a "good feeling" movie to watch again these days. 

Perfect for these times?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    last year

It seems you are all in on believing Trump when it is convenient for you. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2    last year

That's right, nobody is allowed to ever believe Trump.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.1    last year

You are allowed to stand on your head in the middle of a tornado if you want to. Why you would want to is the question. 

Pathological liars lie all the time, that is what the word means. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.2    last year

The big ones have all come from his opponents.

Do you still believe Biden was mentally fit?

Do you still believe Trump colluded with Russia?

Do you still believe the Hunter Laptop was Russian disinformation?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.2.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2    last year

You're criticizing me if Trump happens to believe some of the same things that I believe?  Notwithstanding my age, I'm STILL able to think pretty clearly and it should be pretty obvious that I'm not stuck on one political side or another.  As it happens Trump said the nuclear facilities are completely destroyed and I believe Iran preserved the enriched uranium by hiding it elsewhere and I don't know what else to believe about the equipment used to enrich it further and would not be surprised if they saved it too, and NOT because that's what they have said. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.2.5  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.1    last year

It should be obvious that when someone is a pathological liar, one should never believe what they say.

Instead, if you think they have stated the truth, the prudent thing to do is to verify this with credible sources.

It is a fundamental error to consider anything from Trump to be truthful and to trust his credibility without doing fact-checking.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.3    last year
Do you still believe Biden was mentally fit?Do you still believe Trump colluded with Russia?Do you still believe the Hunter Laptop was Russian disinformation?

Those are YOUR big ones.

I think Trump asking Russia to hack Hillary Clinton's personal computers was a big one. I think the 2016 meeting between the Trump campaign and a purported representative of the Russian government at Trump Tower was a big one. I think Trump blatantly lying about his business interest in Russia during the 2016 campaign was a big one. 

Trump is mentally ill, and numerous psychiatrists have said so.  I dont think Biden is or was mentally ill. 

As far as the lap top goes, Trumps corruption makes whatever Hunter Biden did look like childs play. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.2.7  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2    last year

"I think Trump asking Russia to hack Hillary Clinton's personal computers was a big one. I think the 2016 meeting between the Trump campaign and a purported representative of the Russian government at Trump Tower was a big one. I think Trump blatantly lying about his business interest in Russia during the 2016 campaign was a big one"

You "think" a lot, but you have no proof or evidence of any of this ever happened

You seem to believe all the false information about Trump that you're fed and post here every day,

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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5.2.8  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.7    last year
You seem to believe all the false information

TRUMP HAS PROVIDED FOR YOU, OUR CONDOLENCES

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.6    last year
I think Trump asking Russia to hack Hillary Clinton's personal computers was a big one.

That is a lie. He didn't ask them to hack her unsecured e-mails.


I think the 2016 meeting between the Trump campaign and a purported representative of the Russian government at Trump Tower was a big one. I think Trump blatantly lying about his business interest in Russia during the 2016 campaign was a big one. 

None of which proved or came close to "collusion."


Trump is mentally ill, and numerous psychiatrists have said so.  I dont think Biden is or was mentally ill. 

As far as the lap top goes, Trumps corruption makes whatever Hunter Biden did look like childs play. 


Don't look now, but you just failed the test laid out in post # 5.2.5

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.9    last year

Like he always does, he was asking the Russians to do whatever they could to help him, in this case to "find" the missing emails. If you think he cared at all about how they did that for him you are delusional. 

As far as the meeting, Trump Jr was told by someone who had access to the Russian government that there was a representative of the government who wanted to give him dirt on Hillary Clinton. And they met. 

Mueller said that Trump Jr could not be indicted because he didnt realize that what he was doing might have been illegal.  Other prosecutors may have seen that differently. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.11  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.10    last year
Mueller said that Trump Jr could not be indicted because he didnt realize that what he was doing might have been illegal.

Mueller Confirms: Don Jr. Was Too Stupid to Collude

For the entirety of the special counsel’s investigation into possible collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, and obstruction of justice by the president, one question consistently on people’s minds was: will   Donald Trump Jr.   go down for this? It was   Donald Trump’s   namesake, after all, who received an e-mail from British publicist   Rob Goldstone   on behalf of Russian pop star   Emin Agalarov   promising dirt   on   Hillary Clinton —to which he responded “If it’s what you say . . . I love it, especially later in the summer”—and, after follow-up calls with Agalarov, set up the infamous Trump Tower meeting in June 2016, attended by Jr.,   Jared Kushner,   campaign manager   Paul Manafort,   an employee of Russian billionaire   Aras Agalarov,   Russian lawyer   Natalia Veselnitskaya,   former Russian counter-intelligence officer   Rinat Akhmetshin,   and a translator. He also apparently made a big show of telling everyone the Russians were coming, announcing in the regular morning meeting of senior campaign staff and Trump family members that he had “a lead on negative information about the Clinton Foundation” that he was taking a meeting to investigate,   according to testimony from Manafort deputy   Rick Gates , which makes an appearance on page 115 of the   newly released Mueller report .

Obviously, all this only added to the question of Donny’s legal liability. In fact, as   the redacted report   states, the special counsel’s office “considered whether to charge Trump Campaign officials with crimes in connection with the June 9 meeting.” But luckily for the president’s eldest son, he ended up getting off scot-free—not because he hadn’t done anything sketchy, but because   Robert Mueller   concluded he was too stupid to know what he was doing.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.2.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.10    last year
As far as the meeting, Trump Jr was told by someone who had access to the Russian government that there was a representative of the government who wanted to give him dirt on Hillary Clinton. And they met. 

And there was no dirt discussed. Only adoptions.


Mueller said that Trump Jr could not be indicted because he didnt realize that what he was doing might have been illegal. 

Mueller was a proxy just like Joe Biden. That was really the Weissmann team, and they knew immediately that there was no collusion. If what Trump JR did was illegal, I can assure you that Weissmann would have demanded prosecution. And if it was illegal how would the Clinton campaign's hiring of an individual to approach "the Russians" to get dirt on Trump not be a part of the investigation. Mueller also claimed that he never heard of the Steele Dossier. The FBI used it to justify their "investigation." The FBI was caught falsifying a FISA warrant application. Nobody was held accountable. The Mueller team under Weissman destroyed everything on their cellphones and eventually turned in a report that history will regard as a miscarriage of justice.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
5.2.13  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.12    last year

, read the damn bipartisan summation of the Mueller report, would you !

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.12    last year
And there was no dirt discussed. Only adoptions.

From Trump and Kushners and Manaforts perspective the purpose of the meeting was to get dirt on Hillary Clinton. Try doing some research. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Igknorantzruls @5.2.13    last year

I posted it here on the day it came out.

Two leftist members quit.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.14    last year
the purpose of the meeting was to get dirt on Hillary Clinton.

That much puts them right in line with the Clinton campaign which PAID FOR DIRT. (Dirt that was made up, btw)

 
 
 
George
PhD Expert
5.2.17  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.16    last year

Yes, because campaigns have never looked for dirt on opponents before, the idea of that is shocking (s) i think the sticking point is they were meeting with Russians, but what the hypocrites on the left will never admit is that Hillary did exactly what Mueller couldn't prove that trump did.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.2.18  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.3    last year
Do you still believe Trump colluded with Russia?

That's been proven over and over and over again. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.2.19  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.7    last year
You "think" a lot, but you have no proof or evidence of any of this ever happened

Other than it was broadcast on live TV nation wide? 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
5.3  Jack_TX  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    last year
Mamdani's support for Palestine is a long-time belief and one which he has actively campaigned on.

I'm curious. 

It seems to me like the Mayor of NY has absolutely no jurisdiction over anything related to Palestine.  Please enlighten me if I've missed something.

So how, precisely, does he "actively campaign" on support for Palestine?  What is he going to do about Palestine if elected?  How does this work?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
5.3.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jack_TX @5.3    last year

I don't think America needs more politicians who arer going to be role models for the "From the river to the sea" crowd.  Your comment leads me to think that you are not aware that that means destroy Israel. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
5.3.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.3.1    last year
I don't think America needs more politicians who arer going to be role models for the the "From the river to the sea" crowd.

OK, but it still seems a really strange thing for the NYC mayor to campaign on.  He may as well campaign on changing admission policies at the University of Texas.  He's got zero say on it.

  Your comment leads me to think that you are not aware that that means destroy Israel. 

I understand that's what it means to Palestinians.  I think the American kids who chant it at rallies think it's simply rebelling against their parents.  They're utterly clueless.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
5.3.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jack_TX @5.3.2    last year

Whether or not he campaigned on it is not important if people are aware he is a proponent of it. 

 
 
 
George
PhD Expert
6  George    last year

Democrats pick an antisemite as their candidate, is anyone surprised by this?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @6    last year

Let's see:

We have a political party that went from slavery to segregation & liberalism at the same time, to big labor, and finally to Socialism & anti-Semitism.

That is quite a legacy.

 
 
 
George
PhD Expert
6.1.1  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    last year

But their racism has remained unchanged since the party's inception.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @6.1.1    last year

Not totally. It began with anti-black racism. Today it is anti-white racism.

 
 
 
George
PhD Expert
6.1.3  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    last year

They may be anti-white, but most of their leaders are almost transparent, it is their actions that still show that the think African Americans are inferior and unable to compete with their white brothers.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @6.1.3    last year

Absolutely! They think black voters can be manipulated.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  author  Vic Eldred    last year

Secretary General of NATO:

"For too long, one ally, the United States, carried too much of the burden of that commitment - and that changes today. President Trump - dear Donald - you made this change possible... we will produce trillions more for our common defense to make us stronger and fairer by equalizing spending between America and America's allies."

The President is now taking questions at the NATO Summit.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
7.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    last year

I recall the 'right' belittling Obama for saying as much, what changed ?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Igknorantzruls @7.1    last year
I recall the 'right' belittling Obama for saying as much, what changed ?

I don't recall that. Could you provide a link?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.1    last year
Could you provide a link?

"Part of what I discussed with Secretary General of NATO Rasmussen and now with the new Secretary General Stoltenberg is the need to make sure that the collective defense effort is robust, it is ready, it is properly equipped.

That does mean that   every NATO member has to do its fair share . Obviously, we all have different capacities. The United States is going to have different capacities than Poland; Poland is going to have a different capacity than Latvia. But everyone has the capacity to do their fair share, to do a   proportional amount   to make sure that we have the resources, the planning, the integration, the training in order to be effective." - President Obama at joint press conference, June 3, 2014 . Obama Warns NATO Allies to Share Defense Burden: 'We Can't Do It Alone' - Atlantic Council

“I want to take this opportunity to commend Greece for being one of the five NATO allies that spends 2 percent of GDP on defense, a goal that we have consistently set but not everybody has met,” Obama said. “Greece has done this even during difficult economic times. If Greece can meet this NATO commitment, all our NATO allies should be able to do so. ” Obama urges NATO members to pull their weight - POLITICO

I think there is a collective intentional conservative blind spot when it comes to anything good that President Obama did. Perhaps it's just a certain shade of shade that blocks their ability to be objective.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
7.1.3  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.2    last year

Thank you for providing what I have difficulty in doing, as i spell I. T. 

I. D. I. O. T. and have not computer capabilities, but I do distinctly remember having arguments on Newsvine, because as you stated, Hell as was stated by the GOP, be AGAINST any and everything Obama is for, and I thought it quite ridiculous how anyone could be against what Obama was stating, yet, there they were. 

  What I lack in computer skills, I can sometimes make up for, but is it even worth it ? When it is just abruptly ignored if it doesn't go along with their narratives. Two different worlds are seen by peoples observing the same information. Critical thinking has failed far too many, and it shows far too many...

 
 
 
George
PhD Expert
7.1.4  George  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.2    last year

Maybe you misunderstood the request Vic made, that happens quite often when deflecting to something nobody claimed. Would you like Vic or me to clarify it for you, i understand what Vic asked and you totally missed.

 
 
 
George
PhD Expert
7.1.5  George  replied to  Igknorantzruls @7.1.3    last year
Thank you for providing what I have difficulty in doing,

A deflection?

 
 
 
Snuffy
Professor Participates
7.1.6  Snuffy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.2    last year

I believe Vic was looking for a link to show that the 'right' belittled Obama for saying that. Not that Obama didn't say that. 

 
 
 
George
PhD Expert
7.1.7  George  replied to  Snuffy @7.1.6    last year

You are ruining a perfectly good deflection.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
7.1.8  Igknorantzruls  replied to  George @7.1.5    last year
A deflection?

might be keeping the truth from entering your mind, cause I clearly stated it was from Newsvine debates I witnessed and was involved in

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
7.1.9  Igknorantzruls  replied to  George @7.1.7    last year

try photontorpedos cause i'mnot phazed or stunned, with your deflector shields on high 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
7.1.10  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.2    last year
I think there is a collective intentional conservative blind spot when it comes to anything good that President Obama did.

You don't see the irony in this statement?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.1.11  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jack_TX @7.1.10    last year
You don't see the irony in this statement?

Are you trying to equate progressives' rejection of Trump to conservatives' rejection of Obama? So, the frustration progressives have over the conservatives electing a twice impeached, 34 times convicted felon, admitted sexual predator, accused child rapist and known adulterer and liar is no different than conservatives' frustration over a black Harvard graduate, no felonies, still married to wife, no sex scandals, that oversaw bringing to justice one of America's worst enemies that attacked us on 9/11, but that many rightwing white religious conservatives apparently felt was way too 'uppity' being elected President?

And yes, I know ALL the bullshit excuses conservatives have manufactured to mask their true reasons for hating our first black President, but they're not fooling anyone, not even themselves though I know they'll never ever be honest about it.

As for being able to applaud Trump when he does something worth applauding, I fully support his action against Iran. They are a danger to the entire globe with their religious conservatives controlling the military and their potential for achieving nuclear weapons which would be a disaster for every nation. I just wish he would act as strong against our other enemies like Russia and N Korea instead of wilting like an exhausted butterfly every time he's in Putin's presence and telling us all how much he loved Kim Jong Un's love letters.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
7.1.12  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.11    last year
Are you trying to equate progressives' rejection of Trump to conservatives' rejection of Obama?

I'm equating intentional blind spots.

true reasons for hating our first black President, but they're not fooling anyone, not even themselves though I know they'll never ever be honest about it.

Riiiight.  Anybody who disagrees with your politics must be a racist.  How original.  

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
7.1.13  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Jack_TX @7.1.12    last year
I'm equating intentional blind spots.

Might you possibly be considering, and or imagining, possibly some new image obtainers, sometimes called mirrors, that can help one imagine the image that reflection of light refracted, can sometimes mirror the detracted , for subtract it from most equations, still left with mainly Caucasians, who on occasions, are often found to have wide brushes, yet narrow shoulders, to bear the weight they offten didn't anticipate, butt, that's in Heinz sites

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.1.14  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jack_TX @7.1.12    last year
I'm equating intentional blind spots.

Then you are equating a speck of dust in the eye to a timber.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
7.1.15  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.14    last year
Then you are equating a speck of dust in the eye to a timber.

I'm sure you think so.  But I'm also pretty sure you know the story says the log is in you "own eye".  

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
7.1.16  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Jack_TX @7.1.15    last year
the log is in you "own eye".  

you wood know

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    last year

He was probably "motivated" by Trump saying yesterday that he wasnt sure if the US would live up to its article five commitment. 

 
 
 
George
PhD Expert
7.2.1  George  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2    last year

What does article 5 commitment mean to you John? and what was trumps comment on it?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2    last year

Whenever you quote Trump, I want a link.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.2    last year
Trump stoked doubts over his commitment to the alliance when asked whether Washington would abide by NATO’s mutual defence guarantees.

“Depends on your definition,” Trump   told reporters   on his way to The Hague. “There’s numerous definitions of Article 5. You know that, right? But I’m committed to being their friends.”

Trump with NATO ‘all the way’ on Article 5 as leaders gather at summit | News | Al Jazeera

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
7.2.4  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @7.2.3    last year

Article 5

“The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.”

Thats it , thats all of art 5 

no where does it say the US has to use troops or military force , none of them have too actually .

 but it does say this."will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force"

that tells me that the issue is up to the responding party to decide what is necessary in their response .

lot of room for interpretation if i was asked what it meant . .

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2.3    last year

Much different than saying he wasn't sure if the US would live up to its article five commitment. 

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
8  Hallux    last year

Socialism makes communism look like capitalism ... runaway ... runaway.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @8    last year

margaret_thatcher_quote_on_socialism_poster-r025efbee22a14a73b5aeea5f7124870e_wvs_8byvr_704.jpg

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
8.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1    last year

Gee thanks, for a while I thought my toying misquote of the Rusty Lady would fall on dead ears.

Those other people will invent crypto.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @8.1.1    last year

I'm always willing to help out.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
8.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.2    last year

Willing and able are different things.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @8.1.3    last year
Willing and able are different things.

You've done most of it for me.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
8.1.5  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.4    last year

Any thoughts on the Trmp family making a Billion of Crypto in a few months Vic ?

 
 
 
George
PhD Expert
8.1.6  George  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.5    last year

Exactly what is your issue with this?

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
8.1.7  Igknorantzruls  replied to  George @8.1.6    last year

Can you not see how easy it is to BUY INFLUENCE with Trump ?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.5    last year

Did they sell US influence or rare minerals to get it?

 
 
 
George
PhD Expert
8.1.9  George  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.7    last year

So you are assuming something is happening without proof.  Didn't you ignore the billions to the Biden family? that's different right?

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
8.1.10  Igknorantzruls  replied to  George @8.1.9    last year

You're funny George. The Bidens were investigated, Hunter was not found to have violated the rules, only tax and gun laws. Nothing, I repeat Joe Biden was charged with nothing. Trumps' family has 'earned' a Billion dollars in a few months on crypto currency, something he said was a scam not too long ago. This has yet to be investigated, biden was investigated. So do tell me why, the biggest elected grifter thief of them all is as usual, above even suspicion, cause he'd never LIE to you, would he ?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.10    last year
The Bidens were investigated,

Link please

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
8.1.12  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.11    last year

Patti

 
 
 
George
PhD Expert
8.1.13  George  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.10    last year

The Bidens were never investigated for selling influence, that comment is a lie, and selling something is not selling influence, Much like Hunters paintings, it was a really shitty investment but not influence right? 

Hunter Biden says art sales plunged since dad left White House

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
8.1.14  Igknorantzruls  replied to  George @8.1.13    last year
The Bidens were never investigated for selling influence, that comment is a lie

What were the impeachment proceedings that ole whats the fck tried to bring against Joe Biden based on ? The scumbag that gave guided House tours on Jan 5th ? Loudermouth or something 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @8.1.13    last year

Game-set-match!

 
 
 
George
PhD Expert
8.1.16  George  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.14    last year

So you are saying impeachment hearings that never actually happened were equal to an investigation? Wow just wow. can you tell me the special prosecutors name that headed up that investigation?  

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
8.1.17  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.15    last year

[✘] cause there is a game set match, you win everytime ?!

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
8.1.18  Igknorantzruls  replied to  George @8.1.16    last year

they couldn't scrape together enough fcknv evidence for gods sake. Their main source was a Russian Informant that admitted he LIED ABOUT THE MONEY BIDEN ALLEDGEDLY GOT !!! WTF PEOPLE 

 
 
 
George
PhD Expert
8.1.19  George  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.18    last year

So we are down to no investigation.....that sounds vaguely familiar. 

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
8.1.20  Igknorantzruls  replied to  George @8.1.19    last year
So we are down to no investigation.....

maybe Repubs need NO damn credible evidence to start an impeachment procedure, but a 'real' investigation starts with evidence !

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Participates
8.1.21  GregTx  replied to  George @8.1.19    last year

But lots of pardons....

 
 
 
Snuffy
Professor Participates
8.1.22  Snuffy  replied to  George @8.1.13    last year
Much like Hunters paintings, it was a really shitty investment but not influence right? 

Sounds a lot like the Clinton Foundation after HRC lost her presidential campaign.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
8.1.23  Igknorantzruls  replied to  GregTx @8.1.21    last year
But lots of pardons....

yet not of Police beaters 

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Participates
8.1.24  GregTx  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.23    last year

Maybe, but he certainly had no problems with commuting the sentences of those that killed police, children, military etc.

Did he?...

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
8.1.25  MrFrost  replied to  Snuffy @8.1.22    last year

Sounds a lot like the Clinton Foundation after HRC lost her presidential campaign.

You mean the A+ rated Clinton Foundation? Where is trump's foundation these days? Oh yea, shut down for fraud. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
Professor Participates
8.1.26  Snuffy  replied to  MrFrost @8.1.25    last year

Yes, I mean that A+ rated Clinton Foundation that lost a lot of donations and supporters after she lost her presidential bid. 

Donations to the Clinton Foundation plummeted to $16 million last year, down nearly 75% from the organization's peak when former secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton was running for president, records reviewed by Axios show. Clinton Foundation donations plummet 75%

But hey, nice try on the deflection to Trump. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
8.1.27  MrFrost  replied to  Snuffy @8.1.26    last year

But hey, nice try on the deflection to Trump. 

So the Clinton foundation is A+ rated, thanks for agreeing. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  author  Vic Eldred    last year

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Hallux
Professor Principal
9.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    last year

Is it possible to hear from an adult who is not having a daily tantrum?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @9.1    last year

If he was, he'd be entitled.

Once any other politician has endured even one tenth of what he has, tantrums become justifiable.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
9.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.1    last year

Um, he was born having an I'm 'entitled' tantrum. That gold plated spoon needs to be unprofessionally excised. He is reaping what he sowed.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
9.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Hallux @9.1    last year

So you don't want to hear from the Democrats or the left.  I understand.  They have become quite tiresome.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @9.1.2    last year

It's called GUTS and he has more than most.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
9.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.4    last year
It's called GUTS and he has more than most.

I anxiously await to see the proof ...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @9.1.5    last year

You saw it over & over again.

Btw, are the gangs back in Aurora?

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
9.1.7  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.4    last year

By weight he does.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
9.1.8  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.6    last year
Btw, are the gangs back in Aurora?

I never noticed them before, but if they are, hopefully they're looking for maga hats and bumper stickers ...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @9.1.7    last year

You're getting rusty.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
9.1.10  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.9    last year

Aging has attributes ... flirtation becoming attention without intention being one of them.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
9.1.11  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.1    last year
If he was, he'd be entitled.

Are they still eating cats and dogs in Springfield?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    last year

I am not at all sure why you think posting that garbage would make reasonable people want to be more aligned with Trump. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.2    last year

The last 4 years alone is justification enough.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
9.3  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    last year

I'll take, "Posts Made by an angry 12 year old" for 1000 Alex. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10  Sean Treacy    last year

Florida real estate values get a shot in the arm

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
10.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Sean Treacy @10    last year

They deserve the government they are about to elect.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11  author  Vic Eldred    last year

FBI Director  Kash Patel  has declassified and shared documents with senators that he says "detail alarming allegations" about potential Chinese interference in the 2020 election.

FBI Raises 'Alarming' Claims of Chinese Interference in 2020 Election - Newsweek

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
11.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @11    last year

You mean the interference the Democrats and left swore never happened?  I thought the claims of interference were "conspiracy theories".  Odd how those keep coming true.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @11.1    last year

There are a lot of files to go through at the FBI.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12  author  Vic Eldred    last year

It's getting hot on Capitol Hill:






AG Pam Bondi to Rep. Madeleine Dean: "You want to talk about incompetence, you're the one that said Joe Biden on PBS was competent. You had to retract those words. Don't talk, don't insult me publicly."

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
12.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @12    last year

Does Madeleine Dean actually think she should be taken seriously?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @12.1    last year

They let Merrick Garland turn the law inside out and now they want to smear Bondi.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
12.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.1.1    last year

They let Garland get away with everything because he was supporting what they wanted to do.  Bondi, on the other hand, is supporting the law.  Democrats don't like that.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @12.1.2    last year

They do project onto others what they do.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13  author  Vic Eldred    last year

The logical candidate for NYC mayor:

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What holds him back?

Could it be that NYC is one third foreign born?

Or is it the indoctrinated elite?

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Junior Quiet
13.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @13    last year

is that Curtis >

?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Igknorantzruls @13.1    last year

The very one the elite hate.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
14  Nerm_L    last year

How long before Democratic leadership in New York begin demanding 'reforms' for ranked voting?  Seems like any problematic election result for the Democratic old guard is justification for reforms.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @14    last year
How long before Democratic leadership in New York begin demanding 'reforms' for ranked voting?

As soon as it hurts their choice.

It was a terrible idea. It has kept Lisa Murkowski in office for years.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
15  author  Vic Eldred    last year

It's so hot that Barney almost burned his hand on the hood.

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He had the A/C on full strength all the way to Mt Pilot.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
16  author  Vic Eldred    last year

We finish the day with a laugh:

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CNN correspondent Natasha Bertrand (the liar on the Hunter laptop story) is telling people that unnamed sources are telling her that the U.S. strikes on three of Iran's nuclear facilities last weekend did not destroy the country's nuclear program.  Remember, right after the strike people told us that it will take a long time to assess the damage, which btw caused a mountain to change color. Other left-wing sites ran with it. 

Meanwhile the President came home from a very successful NATO meeting with an Iran deal in the works. Tomorrow the SCOTUS is likely to rule on district judge authority and this weekend the Big Beautiful Bill is set for a vote.  A new Trafalgar Poll just came out showing widespread support for the President's foreign policy. Things are looking up for the nation.

To all my friends:

"Good night and good luck."

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
17  Sean Treacy    last year

The socialist is now promising to raise taxes  on white neighborhoods.   He seems intent on destroying the country by any means necessary.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
17.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Sean Treacy @17    last year

I dont know about destroying the country , fundamentally changing NYC if he becomes mayor , thats up in the air .

 what he fails to realize is those he wishes to target , as has been pointed out , have the ability to leave , and all they really have to do is move outside the cities jurisdictional reach .

the same goes for businesses , covid taught us that work can be done from just about anywhere, especially with the businesses targeted that make high dollars .

 
 
 
freepress
Freshman Silent
18  freepress    last year

He hasn't been elected yet.

Since Republicans hate New York isn't it good news?

If he gets elected doesn't that mean New York is stuck with "socialism"?

Are you fear mongering before the actual election because if he is elected and " socialism" works for New York and it's good,  then you don't want good things to happen in any other city?

 
 

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