Israeli settlers beat U.S. citizen to death in West Bank
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Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank beat a U.S. citizen to death, according to local officials, during a Friday confrontation between a group of Israelis and Palestinians.
A municipal official and a relative of 21-year-old Sayfollah Musallet confirmed his death to NPR. Musallet was born in Florida and was in the village of Sinjil this week visiting family.
The Israeli military said that a confrontation had broken out between Palestinians and Israelis, and officials were investigating reports of a Palestinian civilian killed.
A U.S. embassy spokesperson confirmed Musallet's death.
Israeli officials rarely prosecute those accused of violence against Palestinians, and when they do, a very small percentage end in conviction.
The U.S. Department of Justice has faced criticisms from its own attorneys for the " glaring gap " between how the agency investigates crimes committed by Russia and Hamas, as opposed to accusations of crimes committed by Israel and its citizens.
Since the deadly Oct. 7, 2023 attack by Hamas against Israel that killed some 1,200 people and resulted in the kidnapping of several hundred more, tensions between Palestinians and Israelis have been on the rise, even among the civilian population .
Israel's response to the attacks has resulted in the deaths of more than 55,000 Palestinians – over half of whom were women and children – and left more than 127,000 wounded.
And Israel's unrelenting siege in the region has resulted in a humanitarian crisis that has pushed health and welfare infrastructures in Gaza to the verge of collapse .
Despite widespread condemnation by some world leaders of Israel's heavy-handed retaliation against Hamas, the United States continues to provide funding for the 21-month-long conflict.
Last month, the Trump administration said it would dedicate $30 million to an Israeli-backed program to control Gaza's limited food supplies that the United Nations has described as a " death trap ."
Ongoing attempts to negotiate a ceasefire have so far proven unsuccessful .
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The spoils of revenge ... /s
I doubt if anyone will be prosecuted over this even tho he was a US citizen
we need to have a few missile accidents with some illegal settlements ...
Which is due to the many rightwing conservatives in this country who don't actually believe Muslim Americans are worth the same as straight white American Christians. They gauge Muslim Americans value somewhere between a white Christian progressive Democrat and an atheist homeless trans minority, neither of which they're willing to stick their necks out for. MAGAites have never and will never believe in or support equality because that directly threatens their undeserved yet somehow still overwhelming sense of superiority.
Hamas killed 46 US citizens and took 12 US citizens hostage during the Oct. 7 terror attack. They did not have a choice.
Sayfollah Musallet had a choice. He chose unwisely.
I knew there would be no compassion for an American citizen that's a "brown" person
Finally I learn something about you, you are a fan of revenge. Yippie-oy-vey cowboy!
Who says this guy was brown? Sayfollah Musallet had as much choice as someone taking a selfie with a bison at Yellowstone.
Musallet knew what conditions were in the West Bank. Risk of becoming a casualty in a war zone is rather high. And he didn't have the magic protection of s PRESS vest.
Sayfollah Musallet made a choice and he chose unwisely. That's his fault, alone.
I see you are a fan of stupidity. Sayfollah Musallet jumped into the gorilla exhibit at the zoo and now everyone wants the gorilla put down? How stupid is that?
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I'll raise you an Abdulrahman al-Awlaki.
I'm not shallow? I'm not a lemming? I can differentiate between a real outrage and a phony outrage?
You know, Israelis are just as brown as Palestinians. Haven't you seen the images of reconstructed Jesus? Jesus looked like a Palestinian.
That gorilla zoo as you call it was his family's land in the West Bank, not in Gaza. I thought property rights were where all rights begin and end.
How does Abdulrahman al-Awlaki relate to anything concerning what happened to Sayfollah Musallet? That's a Palestinian to Yemeni comparison.
Or are you suggesting they were both associated with terrorists? Is that the commonality?
Only the one I mentioned. You on the other hand are trying to paint Saifollah in a very unflattering light that could be easily interpreted as blame the victim with the old trope of being in the wrong place.
What unflattering light? Sayfollah Musallet did something stupid and the consequences were unfortunate. That's not an international outrage.
Why are you attempting to use US citizenship in a contrived manner to garner sympathy for Palestinians? The facts really are that Sayfollah Musallet had a choice to go to the West Bank knowing about the unrest that existed. According to reporting Musallet wasn't killed defending his family land. Israelis did not kill Musallet in a surprise terror attack.
The US citizens killed and taken hostage by Palestinian terrorists didn't have a choice. Palestinians chose to start a war on Oct. 7th with a surprise terror attack. What happened to Sayfollah Musallet is not the equivalent to what happened on Oct. 7th.
Sayfollah Musallet died as a result of an unfortunate choice. He knew what conditions were, ignored travel advisories issued by the US State Dept. , and went anyway. That was Musallet's choice. He chose unwisely.
Chose what? To be born to Palestinian parents?
yeah...that was all his own fault
See link @ 1.3.2 or is The Times of Israel too 'radically centrist' for you?
Sayfollah Musallet was born in Florida. That's why the outcry over a US citizen being killed. Sayfollah Musallet lived in the United States. Musallet had to deliberately choose to travel to the West Bank. Musallet ignored travel advisories and, likely, ignored family information out of the West Bank to deliberately travel to the West Bank.
The West Bank is not under the jurisdiction of the United States. The United States cannot prosecute or punish anyone in the West Bank. The United States could not protect Sayfollah Musallet in the West Bank. That's why travel advisories were issued. And Musallet ignored travel advisories. Musallet had been warned but chose to ignore the warnings. That's unfortunate but it's not cause for international outrage.
The Sephardic are, the Ashkenazi are not.
What do "Palestinians" look like?
What do Jews look like?
Each other.
Some look like they're "100% 'White'"-- but there are some who look like "Black" Africans.
And everything in between.
Revenge? Attempting to rescue the hostages and preventing Hamas from ever being able to repeat Oct 7 again is considered revenge by you? [deleted][✘]
No one here is taking the side of terrorists, no matter how many times you try and claim that.
No Buzz, this is not about Gaza, this is about Israeli creeping encroachment in the West Bank ... something that has been going on for decades.
I will refrain from insulting you.
BTW Buzz:
Doesn't that irritate the fuck out of you? I know it does me. If we take a different opinion other than 'KILL ALL PALESTINIANS!!" we are on the side of terrorists
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When someone attacks you for daring to say "I do not support the indiscriminate bombing of Palestinian women and children" they are, in essence, saying "KILL ALL PALESTIANIS!!".
In essence is nothing more than what you think he means. I have a tendency to go by what he actually says.
I am reminded of a very old Bizarro cartoon of a solitary combatant standing amid a wasteland of destruction surrounded by mushroom clouds with the caption "I won!"
thank you
he who? Nobody mentioned names
We need more details.
Your seed from NPR reports: " The Israeli military said that a confrontation had broken out between Palestinians and Israelis, and officials were investigating reports of a Palestinian civilian killed."
This report offered a bit more:
The Israeli military said on Friday that “terrorists hurled rocks at Israeli civilians adjacent to Sinjil,” lightly injuring two people. “A violent confrontation developed in the area involving Palestinians and Israeli civilians, which included vandalism of Palestinian property, arson, physical clashes, and rock hurling.”
US-Palestinian man killed in West Bank clash with settlers - Jewish News
I think I'll wait until all the FACTS come in.
Good choice, but if those 'facts' come in from the IDF I will treat them with suspicion.
"Settlers" is an 'interesting' choice of words ... perhaps it should also be applied to all those 'illegals' in the US?
Hamas/Palestinians make excellent use of propaganda, VERY successfully.
Israel's response to the attacks has resulted in the deaths of more than 55,000 Palestinians – over half of whom were women and children – and left more than 127,000 wounded.
Unsupported speculation and misinformation
Do you have some supported numbers handy or are you just kvetching?
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Do you?
I merely seeded the article. My opening comment concerning revenge is one of many over the years and what with humans falling into that pitfall since forever I will repeat until whatever forever remains to me.
Now hiss off.
Touchy, touchy
It's a Canadian thing, we're human.
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Hamas began employing women and children as suicide bombers in 2002.
Palestinians are an enlightened people who have adopted equal opportunity in terrorism. They're woke.
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Apparently, you believe the lies and propaganda of the Hamas Health Ministry
This story has nothing to do with the Holocaust
I do not, but there are many other believable groups and even the numbers Israel admits to are egregious. I've never said Israel doesn't have a right to defend itself, they do, and they should hunt down the terrorists who cowardly attacked Israeli civilians on October 7th and hopefully wipe them off the face of the earth.
However, that doesn't mean I believe the only way to do that is to commit genocide instead of doing the hard work of tracking down and targeting the terrorists who committed those crimes and not the civilian population they hide among.
As for how this ties to the holocaust, I find it ironic that back then (and even today) you had those denying the claims of atrocities and the numbers being estimated trying to minimize what the Nazi's did. Now, here we are, three quarters of a century later, with people denying the claims of atrocities and the numbers being estimated trying to minimize what the hardline conservative Israeli's have done. I'm not saying what Israel has done is ANYTHING like what the Nazi's did, I'm simply pointing out the irony of there now being Palestinian genocide deniers just like there are holocaust deniers.
Whether the estimated numbers of dead Palestinian civilians put out by Israel are accurate or if the numbers put out by Hamas controlled Palestinian Health Ministry are accurate, they're both in the tens of thousands which is beyond sad no matter where or who those civilians becoming collateral damage might be, whether in Ukraine, Gaza or any other active conflict zone.
Personally, I don't see why expressing support for not killing civilians is such a polarizing topic. Unless perhaps, if there is a side that doesn't see those civilians as human and thus not worthy of their empathy.
How very well the propaganda war Hamas was trained by Iran to carry out has succeeded. We're going to hear first of all how many innocent children have been "SLAUGHTERED" by the IDF, but what we're not going to hear is a word of disapproval of Hamas using those children as human shields as they surround themselves with them, and what we're NOT going to hear is how many Hamas militants were among those inflated numbers given by the Hamas Health Authorities. So let's see how to "track down and target the terrorists" who wear civilian clothes and hide among the civilian population. What are we going to do, make every person in Gaza take a lie detector test? Let's see if we can separate the militants from the population who danced and shared candies when Oct 7 happened. Or do we GET REAL!!
NOT ONE FUCKING WORD ABOUT THE VICIOUSNESS OF THE DECLARED TERRORISTS ON OCT 7, NOT ONE FUCKING WORD ABOUT HOW THEY COMMIT THE WAR CRIMES OF TAKING HOSTAGES AND OF HIDING AMONG THE CIVILIANS, NOT ONE FUCKING WORD ABOUT HOW MANY OF THOSE KILLED WERE HAMAS MILITANTS, BUT OH BOY, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE "GENOCIDE" THAT THOSE FUCKING JOOZ DO. WHY IS THAT? NOT ONE WORD ABOUT THE LIES BEING TOLD BY THE HAMAS HEALTH AUTHORITY. EVEN RECENTLY I HAVE WATCHED ON TV A GAZAN JOURNALIST REFER TO THE BOMBING BY ISRAEL OF THE PARKING LOT OF THE GAZA HOSPITAL THAT KILLED 500 PALESTINIANS WHEN IT HAS EVEN BEEN ADMITTED THAT IT WAS A MISFIRED ISLAMIC JIHAD MISSILE. BUT EVERYONE IS GOING TO STILL BELIEVE IT WAS ISRAEL, RIGHT?
I don't remember, but were there such protests marches, demonstrations, such blame for the death of innocent women and children and old people put on the Americans when Dresden and Tokyo were carpet-bombed, when the atomic bombs were dropped on HIroshima and Nagasaki, although the Nazis and Japanese did NOT hide themselves among the civilians - maybe those protests didn't happen because the JOOZ didn't do it.
"I've never said Israel doesn't have a right to defend itself, they do, and they should hunt down the terrorists who cowardly attacked Israeli civilians on October 7th and hopefully wipe them off the face of the earth."
How is that not many words about the vile attack on Israeli civilians?
You shouted a lot as if that will somehow harden everyone's hearts as it seems you want them to, but nothing you said changes my position of not wanting to bomb babies. None of what you scream about will ever justify that in my opinion. This is not propaganda, this is just simple humanity which I hope isn't lost in this sad war between cousins. Both nations claim Abraham as their forefather and yet here they are, after thousands of years, still at each other's throats and both screaming about their own righteousness to defend their land and their families and their traditions, all while their babies are being sacrificed on their blazing pyre of stubborn hubris.
I support hunting down and exterminating the terrorists all day long, just do your best to keep the babies out of it. Is that really such a hard concept to grasp? Or is it a scorched earth 'we gotta burn the roots' too sort of thing? Because that's simply not something I could ever support, though it seems to be what many on the right are suggesting and supporting by their absolute defense of indiscriminate bombing of Palestinian civilians.
Although I used your comment to let loose my diatribe it was actually my complaint about the public generally, not entirely aimed at you. Quite a bit of what I said should have made that obvious. Since you require that Israel must hunt down and eliminate those who took part in the Oct 7 massacre, while not harming innocent children, please let me know, considering the tactics used by Hamas, how that can be accomplished. And, taking into consideration that in order to prevent the destruction of Israel wherein you agree that Israel has the right to defend itself, it is necessary to completely eliminate Hamas, so how, considering the war crime tactics Hamas uses, do you think it would be possible for Israel to defend itself from not only repeats of Oct 7, but generally?
I did not say that no child could be harmed, though that would be ideal. I simply hope that those fighting the terrorists "do their best to keep the babies out of it". This would mean only ever using targeted bombing attacks on high value targets and known Hamas strongholds, not just laying down a bombing run on several blocks because they saw one guy with an Ak which is what it appears is still happening. This is a game of whack-a-mole where the hammers are about 1,000 times larger than the moles they're trying to hit which will undoubtedly cause massive collateral damage. From what I could tell, from the start of Israels response they intended it to have massive collateral damage, they knew it would kill tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians which they felt was a justified retaliation for Hamas's attack on civilians October 7th. And the rest of the world has watched because they too might have reacted the same if their civilians had been attacked. But eventually the worlds stomach for the continual strikes on civilians waned, which of course spawned the movement to hold Israel accountable for any war crimes it commits.
This is clearly one of those questions meant to allow one to compromise their morals by assigning the label "Hamas" to any and all Palestinians as some seem to want to do. While I do agree that Hamas should be wiped off the face of the earth, that does not, in my mind, include all Palestinians. If the question is "how does Israel defend itself against a terrorist threat?" the answer is to attack ONLY the terrorists while attempting to build trust among the citizens giving them a way out instead of cornering them and making them feel like they have no choice but to join Hamas or perish as a starving prisoner of Israel.
THIS
Although I have not mentioned the word "Palestinians", but specifically used the word Hamas, what is your purpose in making that statement. However, you have used it yourself by saying this:
But of course the Hamas journalists use the word "Palestinians" instead of Gazans in order to follow their guidelines for carrying out their absolutely incredible success with the psychological warfare that they have so obviously already won.
And again and again nobody will acknowledge that wearing civilian clothes using civilians as human shields and hiding themselves and their weapons and control centres among the civilians and in schools, mosques, hospitals, UNRWA facilities and refugee camps is the PRIMARY cause of the deaths of so many civilians.
Nobody seems to notice that the inflated numbers provided by the Hamas Health Ministry NEVER mentions how many Hamas militants are included in the numbers? That's to make the civilian losses even a bigger number to fool the bleeding hearts of the world.
I say all that notwithstanding I have valid personal reasons for mistrusting Palestinians as well as Hamas that I have posted enough times that even with multiple repetitions it's ignored. Let's not forget that it wasn't just Gazans who danced and sang, shared sweets and celebrated BOTH 9/11 and Oct 7
Now, what is a practical and necessary method to eliminate Hamas from ever threatening Israel again that will keep collateral damage to a minimum? But let's not be hypocrites - after all it did take Hiroshima and Nagasaki for Japan to surrender. What do you think it will take Hamas to surrender, since it is inevitable they will be defeated.
I simply pointed out what I'm observing which, for some, seems to be a desire to paint all Palestinians as terrorists.
? Should they not? Are the "Gazans" not Palestinian? Is "Gazan" a separate culture from Palestinian?
That reminds me of an old saying, "It wasn't the thousand-foot fall that killed him, it was the abrupt stop". Hamas wearing civilian clothes and hiding behind civilians isn't what kills Palestinian civilians, it's still the bombs. There are other ways to get to them and bring them to justice besides indiscriminate bombing.
And I'm sure you wouldn't see anything wrong with someone else saying "I say all that notwithstanding I have valid personal reasons for mistrusting Jews", right? That's not antisemitic at all, is it? What might these personal reasons to "mistrust" all Palestinians be? What? You saw some of them commit horrors against Jews? Well then hating them all and wanting to exterminate them must certainly be justified, right? Such "personal reasons" should be enough for everyone to just follow along and support your prejudice, right?
Again, for me, this all comes down to wanting Israel to defend itself and to kill the terrorists while also maintaining their morality and humanity by not targeting civilian populations and bombing babies. I also hope that their attacks on Hamas wipe the terrorists of the face of the earth thus leaving no terrorist behind to threaten the safety of Israel OR Gaza and the Palestinians. I also hope that the families and children left behind on both sides let go of their anger, hate and resentment towards the "others" so that the cycle of violence that has been going on for 3400 FUCKING YEARS ends. That's all I desire, though I find it hard to believe that either side, after soooooo long, will ever "let it go".
Of course they're not all terrorists. The ones who danced in the streets and shared sweets when both 9/11 and Oct 7 happened are not necessarily terrorists, but are they not terrorist sympathizers. The Arab doctors I met at Laniado Hospital in Netanya are not terrorists. Their tears were genuine when they described to me the results of the "Passover Massacre", and although it is a modern Orthodox hospital, the Arab staff, medical and administrative, are given full control of the hospital for good reason.
It is to describe a geographical difference, just as you might describe Southerners as compared to New Englanders.
Targeted bombings instead of fighting in the streets or being blown up by booby traps is a NECESSITY to save the IDF lives or by being shot by a Hamas militant teenager in civilian clothing. Do you totally discount what Col. Richard Kemp says about the tactics of the IDF?
After having posted them at least half a dozen times on NT I don't feel I need to repeat them. If you want to compare all Jews to Palestinians I can't stop you from doing so.
They DO NOT TARGET civilian populations, they warn them to vacate targets by dropped leaflets, telephone calls and email masaages (which ha NEVER been done by any other invaders), and surely they do not intentionally bomb babies. Once again, how did Americans feel about Hiroshima and Nagasaki - other than the casualties of war were a necessity to end the war. GOOD people did not dance in the streets and share candies to celebrate then.
There is an element in the Israeli population that is celebrating the death of every Gazan killed.
I was watching the Piers Morgan show on You Tube . He had on a guest who is the head of a west bank settlement organization. Morgan gave the woman five chances to say she was distressed by the death of 20,000 children in Gaza and she wouldnt do it.
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It should be noted that all members of Hamas are civilians.
IIRC, one out of five Israeli citizens are Arabs . . .
They vote, elect representatives to the Knesset (parliament) Some even enlist in the IDF. They have rights in Israel that they would not have in most Arab countries.
Civilian: noun - a person not in the armed services or the police force.
I would argue that Hamas is the Palestinian "armed services" so if you willingly join or aid them, you can no longer be considered a civilian.
They're terrorists. Not the same thing.
But they are elected terrorist....
Ah. Well that makes it all better, then.
In order to remove the stigma of having a US citizen beaten to death on foreign soil under his watch, Trump is discussing having Musallet's citizenship retroactively posthumously revoked. /s
are you so sure that that is not sarcasm? He's threatened to revoke Rosie O'Donnell's citizenship
On the plus side, this idiot won't reproduce, Hey, as an American i think i will go to Iran and chant "death to Khamenei", as a Ukrainian I think i will travel in Russia with a death to Putin T-shirt on, as a Palestinian American, I think I will go to a Jewish settlement and start some shit. You just can't fix stupid.
You can't forget this brain trust. They wouldn't get out of the airport alive if they traveled there with this sign.
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Or maybe just head down to some conservative hollar full of MAGAites and publicly support a womans right to choose or wear a Black Lives Matter shirt. I mean, you should just expect to get physically assaulted or even killed in this world if you piss someone off, right? And it's your fault for being stupid enough to think humans won't murder you just because it's against the law, not the murders' fault. They apparently have every right to be dumb fuck murderous inbred bigots or so bitter about their foreign neighbors that they not only condone genocide in their hearts, they're excited and aroused by the very idea of it.
Uh, yeah if yer a dumbass liberal that chooses to do that. But don't you dare assault a white MAGA hat wearer EVER! even if he is in the wrong place at the wrong time
That is largely s liberal thing. I mean I didn’t see family members disowning others because Biden got elected and they voted for him. Or mass rioting when Biden got elected. Or assassination attempts on Biden or conservatives shooting up liberals at a congressional softball game. Etc. etc
Not saying conservatives don’t have kooks who act like this as well. They do but there was no where near the mass hysteria we saw, and are still seeing, from the left.
Or go to a protest with a MAGA hat on.
I'm not sure how you've missed the fact that most men live in exactly this situation every day of our lives.
Tell you what, next time your out, find a big guy on a day out with this young daughter and call her a whore. Post the video so we can see how that works out for you.